Nokia N97 in 2022 | Nostalgia & Features Rediscovered!
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In this video, I talk about the Nokia N97, explore its most important features, discuss its hardware and software, and why the Nokia N97 ultimately ruined Nokia's flagship reputation despite it being what was supposed to be Nokia's iPhone killer. Was focusing on Symbian the right choice for Nokia Mobile at the time? Or was it the reason Nokia failed? Did The Nokia N97 usher the Windows Phone and Lumia Era?
Here are the Video Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
00:44 - AppMySite
01:38 - N97 Hardware & Features
03:04 - The 2 Biggest Flaws
05:32 - Why N97 Ruined Nokia Flagships
07:00 - The Real Saviour
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Every time I see an old Nokia device, one thing I always say, how beautiful they were. It may not be the best in terms of performance but it was beautiful.
Nokia always had the best designers. Its a reason I became a fan so many years ago :)
so do I.
I liked Nokia ever since but my N95 was was sold me... Still the best fone I ever used... 👌👌
@@AbdullaZaki Just like old Ferrari
@@AbdullaZaki best design but not many apps. that was it for me.. very less apps available in nokia app store.
Another problem that no one seems to notice: it had no GPU. All screen content was rendered by the processor. The first iPhone already had a GPU for a smooth experience and 3D gaming. Even the Sony Ericsson W900i
had an Nvidia GPU. With the Nokia X7, this problem was solved and it was smooth, but it was too late...
Well I had no GPU in my x86s before Nvidia Geforce (3dfx Voodoo 1 & 2 ≠ GPUs)
Very good point. The N8 also had a GPU so it was capable on paper of doing a lot more than the N97.
The N95 had a GPU (well, an FPU really) and the E51 didn't. However the E51 run 3D n-Gage games on par of better than the N95 simply because of a ~10% higher clockspeed (332 MHz vs 369 Mhz). Symbian was lousy with GPU support though, it was a derivative of EPOC that itself was little more than a DOS for ARM with a GUI API, it was a very basic, close to the metal OS. It was very well optimized because of this, it used very little RAM and for the most part very little CPU as well, but also because of this optimization it was very rigid in terms of what hardware it could use, and adding a proper 3D accelerated GPU would have been a huge undertaking and a rewrite of fundamental parts of the OS. It would have saved Nokia's bacon though, the effects rendered by the S60v5 were all calculated by the CPU and I remember many hacks that outright got rid of all the effects speeding up the OS considerably. The other problem with Nokia back in the day was that they _knew_ Symbian was very well optimized and used the fact for cost-saving, thanks to that they usually included half the amount of RAM any phone would realistically needed. "You think this flagship should have 256 MB? Naah, we are good, cut that in half, that was we save on hardware by means of software! We are geniuses!". They were not.
its rivals such as samsung i8910 omnia hd and sony ericsson satio had much faster processors and gpu in it
also nokia still using outdated camera technology (5 mp meanwhile other manufacturers moved on to 8 and even 12 mp)
@@dallesamllhals9161 Semantics. Either you had a 2D card, or there was enough CPU headroom to draw graphics. Mobile phones, even of the 2009 vintage, do not have the headroom to software render everything smoothly and/or with acceptable power draw.
I can only imagine where Nokia would be now if they had focused on N900’s OS or Meego OS. Especially Meego as it was way ahead of its time not to mention N9 was extremely beautiful looking device.
N900 may have been beautiful in terms of design and GUI, but even when it came out, I didn't expect any kind of "revolution" from this device. It was still more of an internet tablet than a regular smartphone and its lack of vertical mode ultimately doomed this device for good. And its successor, Nokia N9, unfortunatelly came out too late to change anything. However, the platform itself was amazing back then and I truly believe if Nokia focused on it from the beginning, instead of continuing with Symbian on touchscreen devices, the history could have been written in different way...
I had the N500. It was a beast ahead of its time. Only held back by the lack of apps.
If only Nokia didn't get a Trojan Horse as the CEO in the name of Stephen Elop
2:33 - Wow, the camera samples really blew me away! Wasn't expecting such great photos from a phone from 14 years ago.
The last Nokia i owned. Loved it ❤️🔥
The lumia was very good after this
Nokia was the iPhone of its day and Motorola was the Samsung of its day
Watching this on my Nokia 9 PureView.
Me too bro
I would too. But that phone is unusable. Thx Nokia that you don't care 🙂
@@J.A.N.O.S I wouldn't say so, to me it is perfectly usable, it's fast and lasts me a day, altough I am currently using it as a secondary phone to watch videos.
@@darling_yext For me it's unusable. I got a bad motherboard on it. So I can't use camera. The worst is that even when I buy new motherboard, there is a Chance that it will be broken after short time too. I had old Nokia and Nokia 6, 8 and 9. But I switched to Google Pixel 6. Nokia was making good phones. But now Nokia makes phones that are good for incredible small part of people
@@J.A.N.O.S Oh I get it, btw I just saw your name. Are you hungarian ?
The late 2000’s-early 2010’s was when phones were super interesting & exciting
As a kid that time it was precious than diamonds.
I didn’t know it’s that bad. My father owned a N97 mini and I always thought he should’ve bought the original n97.
He got lucky by buying the mini which was a better phone :)
My cousin had a black N97 back in the day, and I remember he never used much of the smart features. I never saw him use the built-in keyboard, except when the power slider broke and he would slide out the keyboard to wake it, then immediately slide it back in.
I loved my N97, except all the issues you mentioned. The FM transmitter was super cool for the time too. I ended up having the camera cover scratching issue, they asked me to send it in for repairs and sent it back still scratched. I think I ended up using it for a little more then fiddling with hacking android onto windows phones.
Great content Abdulla !!! keep posting ❤
Thank you 😁
I remember a buddy having this and playing Galaxy on Fire on it, and i was Super Impressed that you could have a full space sim game on your phone.
I love the N series videos. I always wanted the N95 8gb, N96, and the N97. The N series will forever be my favorite line of phones ever, Sony Ericsson right behind. such gorgeous devices. if they made an LTE N series update like they have with the 6800 and such, I would daily drive it for sure. but for now I will stick with my blackberry keyone black edition, because it REALLY gives off modern N series vibes to me.
Well, my points of complaint to the N97 are (along with the SOC, storage and software issues you mentioned:-
1- The size of that screen with the size of the phone, they COULD have gone with a bigger screen.
2 - 3 row keyboard? Nope, should have gone with a more usable 4 row (as like the E7 demonstrated with the better 4 row)
3 - Capacitive touch screen capability.
🤔😒 😎🇬🇧
Seriously resistive touchscreens are terrible I could never go back to them once you use a capacitive touchscreen.
I recently got a N810 internet tablet. It's MAEMO OS works awesome. Never expected it to be this good.
I used symbian on my Nokia 5233 for more than 3 years and it was a great experience.
Did not know this device was poorly executed that it led to Nokia’s demise. If only they took Apple seriously instead of being complacent.
more like Google. They had the option to switch to Android but went for windows mobile instead.
Bro, you are the one and only true Nokia fan. #Respect
My first phone was n97 and my brother owned n900.. i love n97 keyboard and camera the hinge still works perfectly to this day .
Really great video, you explained very well.Even though you showcased old nokia device, but your way of presentation is amazing!!
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it :D
Sometimes I wish if I had Android OS running with N97 Design, and modern configuration of course 🤓
I would love to have that with me.
That would be quite cool :D
@@AbdullaZaki It has actually been launched, thought it is abit thick. It is called ASTRO SLIDE 5G, and is made by Planetcom. And there is a slightly similar phone called Pro1 X from fxtec.
@@halvardlund4782 what country is the company from?
Totally agree. I’ve used all of them and I absolutely loved the N900. What a beautiful OS! I wish I had one. And I wish that would have been Nokia’s response to Android. Instead, they stuck with Symbian for waaay, waay too long. And while it was running great on non-touch devices, it was really bad on touch devices.
I had this and loved it! Because i did not know any better 😅and used it till iPhone 4S.
It's a good day when Mr. Abdulla uploads a Nokia video.
:D
In 2009 this phone was my dream
Yes, I remember when I desperately tried to love the two N97 devices back then...and even the N97 Mini. Unfortunately, the N97's unstable software and paltry memory caused constant crashing and random restarts. It was so bad I ended up going back to a Palm Treo that ran Windows Mobile. 😑
It was surely a looker! But with all the issues you mentioned, I am glad that the N8 was my first touchscreen phone (and incidentally, my last Nokia).
With majority of Apps and games being developed for Android and Symbian reaching the end of its life, I deviated towards Android and have stuck with it ever since.
But I still wish to be able to buy a genuine and working N900 and an N95 for my collection.
Still have my n900 and feel a lot of nostalgic feeling every time I look at it !
I have use only for Nokia i love you Nokia Nokia is my heart...
I had a n97 mini and it was probs one of my favourite phones I've ever owned it felt very futuristic at the time almost like a mini laptop
I had the 5530 XpressMusic way back and wasn’t really bothered by the UX quirks.
i have the 5300 xpressmusic, the LCD stays on white forever
For what it is, the 5530 was a good phone. The N97 was supposed to be an iPhone killer though, and for that I'm a lot more critical of it
I had them all, love em..😌
Great work, keep it up 👍🏻
Thank you so much 😀
My first ever smartphone was the Nokia N95 (normal, not 8gb version) it was absolutely sick phone. Loved it to bits
IT was very good, i had that too.
I had this phone back in the day and i still miss having a awesome phone like that (with android tho) in my eyes this is one of the greatest phones ever made
This was my dream phone in 2010, I got one but it wasn’t with the flip keyboard
كان عندي N97 mini كان تطور جامد في وقته وفضلت استخدمه اربع سنين
I had all of the mentioned models and I'm agreeing with everything this gentleman said. I was sad when I gave up my N8 for an Iphone, I still have some of the models at my parents house in my desk drawers. Childhood memories. :)
I had one and loved it
Thank you.
u have the coolest theme music lol hope u never change it 😀
same
Don't plan on changing it anytime soon :D
@@AbdullaZaki 😀 awesome lol
Good old Times, this phone remember a nokia c7 that I use (and still I have în my masive nokia collection) good job👍
I loved this phone so much there was so much wrong but I swear I felt like the coolest kid in middleschool when I slid it open
I know the feeling :) Form factor was so cool for its time!
I had this model , this era was fun.
I never had N97, but I used N97 mini for few years, which in my opinion is better than N97. Incredable built quality. Sometimes I'm thinking about to buy just for the colleciton.
The N97 mini had most of the good things the N97 had, but without the critical memory flaw. It wasn't perfect, but it was a much better phone than the original
@@AbdullaZaki Yes, one of the main differences was the storage, but back in the day 8gb was more than enough, so for me its not so much big advantage for N97.
really they need to learn with this hardware todays smartphone need this
whoee my last nokia phone, i really love this tho, even wishing that they could make come back in android version (of course with a whole lot improvement since it 2022 already) i need those keyboard haha
nokia n97 was my first ever touch screen... it lag alot but first phone as the touchscreen it does the work .. and i used it for 3 years
are we evolving ?? are our hands getting bigger ??
questions that came to my mind when you placed the phone along side one of nokia's latest smartphone
Haha, you would think we are. Its just a market trend of media consumption. Our phones today are like the TVs of old days but always with you.
I owned this one and i had a royal feel among everone 😂 those times
Still have this 😎
This was my dream phone as a kid
I've had the n97 mini and it will always be the most beautiful phone I've ever had. Either that or the n-gage QD ☺️
Great video!
Oh man, I remember all the issues people had with these N97s, HowardForums, Symbian-Freak, AllAboutSymbian etc…we’re all full of complaints 😬
I went for 5800XM which was less bug ridden, but Symbian S60v5 mixed with the underpowered CPU, 128MB RAM, poor UX and lack of developer interest were the final nails.
I also had the Nokia N8 which was better but I always wanted that N900, the N97 should have had the N900 hardware. Pity Nokia chose to go with WP, I think if they had continued with MeeGo, they would have got far eventually.
Thank you.
Yeah this brings me back to the forum days. The community was always so fantastic and pretty much the only reliable source of solutions to most problems. Good times.
Yeah, Nokia pretty much did one bad decision after the other. I liked windows phone but MeeGo had a much higher potential. Such a shame.
I had the N95 8GB and the N97 and N97 mini. I loved them all!
Hi! I hope you can also try to feature Nokia's speaker sound quality. For example, Nokia N96 vs N95 loudspeaker. Something like that. 🥺🙏
Ahh!! My first smartphone.
My second was Iphone 4s and it was quantum leap in terms of first impressions.
This phone had a serious RAM issue. Once you began filling its 32gb up with data, it started crashing because it had too little RAM. It also had the lens cover scratching the camera lens. The N97 mini had double the RAM, 8 gb of storage and no lens cover.
Please do a video about nokia e52, e55, e75, e90, nokia 5700 and 5730.
Where do you get your old Nokia Devices? Would love to have one 🙂
2:42 I need that slider on my phone. I'm paranoid about scratching the camera lenses.
I had a n97 mini back in the day
I had the N97 mini. Bought it mainly becouse of the "comes with music" tie-in. Loved that phone really much. Before that i had Ngage QD. That was a mistake.
We owned a Nokia 5800 before, and when I saw the scrolling on the N97, it was the same. Lags everywhere. There's also the randomness of single tap and double tap. Guess we know what phone was the basis of the OS.
I think the 5800 had a more stable experience, funny enough! But yeah, same terrible UX overall
am still using 5800xm lol. It just needs new battery every 3 months.
the form factor is amazing. Miss this kinda stuff
I love complex form factors made simple haha
@@AbdullaZaki If it was just a little more powerful i could see it regaining popularity as a device for handheld emulation. I picked up an ancient Samsung Epic 4G for 16 bucks on ebay and have been using it for snes/n64 gaming lately.
My mom had this phone from 2011 until 2015 but the mini version.
It was so robust that it never broke, it fell down probably 500 times
500 times 💀
I still have mi N97 somewhere… I did enjoy it before I bought an iPhone
I had one of those. I just remembered lol.
Asalamualaikum zaki.. nice video ❤
Hi, could you please let me know the which background music playing 1:36 ?
had this for some time
All up to modern day smartphones... Nokia N97 was THE BEST phone I've ever used and I must say I've had my fair share of a lot of Nokia's phone history since 1996, until I switched to an HTC Sensation XE Beats by DRE. N97 was not a rival to iPhone because of Symbian's limited abilities but still without a comparison it was a great phone. I still own it. I still adore the form of that phone. I'm missing the keyboard. I'm missing all the movies I've put in it's big (for then) memory. I loved that phone.
I had 2 of these. The original and the eventual “Mini.” Good old days.
I still have it still working
Watching the video in my 3 year old Nokia 6.1 plus ❣️
I remember not being able to afford N900 but was planning to buy it anyway because of how advanced it was. It was even able to do WiFi packet injection, that was mad! At that point some of us were really rooting for the Maemo/MeeGo to take on the future...
I still have this phone and working perfectly,but it can't charge its battery...anyone know where can i buy its charging board
How to order now Bro
I forgot my pass code! havent used it over 6 years! pls help! i tried the tricks on the internet and the forums didnt work. my pc can see the files in the phone i even format its storage but cannot choose other modes to reset the software and passcode
I remember using the Nokia 5800 Xpress Music and I specifically chose it over the iPhone because the speakers were unmatched for over 10 years in Smartphones!
Where we can buy that?
It is true that if Nokia can bring the design of Nokia N97 to Nokia Android smartphones, it will be a breakthrough that makes Nokia fans more nostalgic, that is difficult but to do it is revolutionary.
Do you think people would still be interested in a phone with a physical keyboard?
@@AbdullaZaki cannt say no in 2022. the people have deeply entrenched in onscreen keyboard. the camera and hardware design language could still be explored
@@AbdullaZaki "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!"
Back when you used to experience the phone without any cases 😢
My dream phone back then.
it was a verry good and techie fone back in 2010, i owned one
I remember as a kid this phone was a big flex! Xd
I owned this phone, what a beast it was!
Love this phone circa 2009 2010 we made movie with this phone
This damn phone cost me £500. It had 32mb of ram and would constantly crash, reboot and was a nightmare to use. In the end I went to iPhone and haven’t looked back. The Nokia N95 8GB in black was brilliant. Goodbye Nokia and after the N97 I vowed never to give Nokia a penny in future. I’ve gone from the iPhone 3GS to my current 11 pro. I still have nightmares over the N97!
I was in the same boat. I bought the N97 for over $800 and it was the phone that almost made me quit the brand entirely. But I'm glad I didn't because I got to try incredible devices like the N9 that came out a couple of years later.
can I ask where you got this phone?
I have the N97 Mini and it lags even after freshly factory resetting it. The fact that S60 disconnects from WLAN networks is a disaster as the phone would ask you to setup the internet connection each time you tried to open the browser.
Dream that never came true❤❤❤
also why the n97 mini had the last s60v5 update (with the symbian belle icons, the new browser) and not the big one? I was so pissed! Plus the camera slider was a no no to me because it scratched the lens.
I had both n96 and then n97. I was looking forward the e7 or the n950 (the n9 with a keyboard)
My first Smartphone 🥺 good old days
man i loved that phone
When I peep at today's Android apps I've noticed that features in earlier (Nokia in 2k to 2k13) feature phones. The real dominant and the only king from 1998 to 2013.Though we are expecting more from our old BOSS but still just figuring out.
Id love a modern phone with a physical keyboard in that sort of style. Keyboards are underrated.
Nokia really know to makes a great phone. I missed the era of "When the phone was fun".