Now THIS is the most exciting thing I've heard in ages! I'm so sick of doctors stuck in their ways, not even looking at an alternative for health issues. Years of calcium oxalates kidney stones, ER visits, surgeries and yet nobody ever talked to me about reducing oxalates in my diet. I've switched to carnivore and arthritis, eye floaters and vertigo are non existent. I have no new kidney stones. The last issue I need to handle is chronic diarrhea which just might be my lack of an enzyme, time will tell. On another note a close friend in early 30s was diagnosed with glioblastoma, given 18 months to live with chemo, 6 months without. After a few surgeries he immeidately went home to start strict carnivore and daily ice baths, even though doctors said diet has nothing to do with it. He looks amazing!! That was almost 10 months ago and with each test, his tumor hasn't budged.....doctors are scratching their heads, still denying the diet and lifestyle. He leaves their office with a smile and continues living a beautiful life, golfing, working, traveling and not missing a beat. Thank you two for all you do for us. Please take over our sick care industry and give us our lives back!!!!🥩❤
When I was young, I followed Professor Noakes's work to be a better runner. Now, I follow his work to have better metabolic health. I feel greatly indebted to that man.
Pushing 60 in a few Months, Started Ketogenic March 2018 at 254 lbs, Full Carnivore January 2022… Down 192 lbs with Muscle Gain, These Two Smart Caring Docs, Along with Dr. Ken D Berry Have Saved My Life ❤️Doc Bart Kay Keeps Me Motivated and Educated Thank You All 🥩🥩🥩🥩
I'm a Filipino/American 70 year old woman from Ohio. Asians love to eat our most staple food, the RICE. I stopped eating rice for a month now, and i eat mostly wild caught salmon, organic grass pasture raised beef and eggs (which is my everyday favorite). I lost lots of weights especially on my belly part doing that. And this is the first time I was able to see you Doctor and got so interested with all you're saying in your video. I already subscribed to your RUclips and will keep on watching your show. Thanks doctor Cywes. Just have to stop watching as I have to attend my church service now.
I have a friend that's been doing carnivore for about three months. He mainly eats ribeye steaks, bacon, and eggs. He has lost about 60#. I'm at a healthy weight, but I'm thinking of trying it. Meal prep would be very easy.
My hero. I've been keto for over 8 yrs - since first watching Tim's keto presentations. Saw him giving evidence for 2 days in Cape Town - he was incredible.
Thank you Dr Cywes for this incredible interview of one of the most important human being alive in this time and age .. Professor Tim Noakes is my hero .. I have changed my life from the day I heard Professor on channel 702 almost 6 years ago and I have all his books and looking forward to buying this one as well.. lotsa prayers from Johannesburg South Africa 🇿🇦
I'm well into my 60's and as kids no one had access to sugar type foods and now when I look back I think a lot of the reason was to do with what we now call disposable income .. most of the families had very little , almost the case that the better and easier life has become the worse it's been for us overall.
Totally agree with you. Fizzy drinks for us children were strictly only for birthdays and Christmas. We ate home cooked food that was freshly cooked every day. We didn’t have a freezer until I was in my early teens so a walk to the local shops was almost every day.
Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times. Hard times create strong men. Unfortunately right now we are in phase 3.
True, there was hardly a penny of "disposable" income in our household growing up. Now in today's culture we feel somehow ripped off in life without it.
Tony, yes. It's instructive to watch tv episodes and films from the 1960s and '70s because everybody's naturally slender. Even Kojak, who used to look fat to me, is slim compared to today's standards. I remember having a fulfilling philosophical conversation with my mother about the new law in the late 1960's that required all commercial food labels to include every ingredient used. It became a new adventure to closely inspect everything before buying, which I still do, and the list is getting longer and more multi-syllabic--titanium dioxide, polyethelene glycol--all going down our gullets and into our car oils. And cosmetics. No wonder having a cigarette for lunch doesn't take the pounds off like it used to.
20:30 THIS! It's a nuance that some folks seem to miss - the fact that our bodies can burn both glucose and fat is an agreed situation. And that our bodies will burn glucose more readily and preferentially is also widely agreed. I think what's missing is the WHY does/can our bodies burn the glucose so quickly and, in healthy people, easily. Is it because our bodies DON'T WANT glucose hanging about in the bloodstream and that it will throw all it's resources (insulin etc.) at the product ingested to get rid of it and keep it from causing us damage down the line. Insulin is (amongst other jobs) a firefighter trying to put out the fire that a high sugar/glucose/carb diet keeps lighting.
Prof Noakes and Rob Cywes are to be commended for their incredible insight and work that they are doing.We will look back in history of human health and thank them big time.Thanking you.JHB-SA.
Absolutely fascinating discussion; my life has been totally changed as a result of keto/low carb lifestyle. I cannot thank you enough! I am 76 and not slowing down anytime soon!
Brilliant ! SA takes the lead in bringing PROPER eating habits to the people. Doctors and especially DIETICIANS , who are totally ignorant /misinformed about the low carb high fat or completely carnivore way of eating should read this book URGENTLY. Thanks Prof Tim Noakes and also Doc Cywes for all your hard work.
Oh my god what he said about you not knowing how crappy you feel when you eat the standard sugar laden diet is so spot on at least for me I feel like a teenager ever since doing keto/carnivore or younger some days! Things like sinus problems, all went away and never have a stuffed up nose I never realized how little I had used my sinuses and nose for breathing until I got off all the carbohydrates and notice how well our sinuses are supposed to work. I had some ice cream yesterday a very small amount probably half a cup, and it made me feel awful almost immediately not worth the sweet taste in my mouth.
Yes Tim Noake’s leadership can bring the entire low-carb movement together. It’s wonderful he is willing to go forward in such a way. Very beautiful conversation.
Your compliments and reiterating how much of a positive influence he has had on his students had to be the best feeling for him. It is the influence on positive outcomes, the mentoring of the next generations, which makes it all so worthwhile. Not just one for him, but many.
OH my GOD!!! that's me! I'm addicted to sweet tastes! I kept trying to express this to others but didn't have the vocabulary for it. Thank you so much!
Let the science lead. Power corrupts, so don't give it away. We don't need personalities leading us anywhere unless they have impirical data and when their hypothesis is disproved they get out of the way. I tolerate advice and information but reserve the right to a final say about my way and my need to verify.
This was a fantastic talk! I'm not a medical person, but I still found it interesting to hear you two bounce ideas off of each other. This gives me hope that one day this way of thinking will become mainstream ❤️
It would be so wonderful to have a specialization in the medical community that could REALLY assist those of us who have trouble with metabolic disease that are NOT athletes. That would be like paradise!!!
As a T1D, basically a lay person, I found this informative. There are a few terms that I will need to look up to fully understand some of the medical jargon used. I still gained valuable knowledge on this talk. Thank you!
I have found a stepping stone toward relieving my carb addiction (5 apples , chocolate and nuts, in between meals) . I postpone my snacks till after my meal so i find instead of many pieces, many handfuls and many apples ,i often dont even get round to any of those unneccesary snacks.
WHAT IF? If there is a relationship between cognitive orientated decline / metabolic health / diet and we commit folks to care homes and hospitals where they are further fed high carb diets ... hastening their demise ... I saw a RIDICULOUS photo recently of the hospital meal fed to a patient after suffering cardiac issues - pure sugar.
Getting rid of my addictions has been one of the main purposes in life. Negative thoughts about oneself can also be very addictive. We are afraid of our light and power. It is so much more accepted to keep low profile especially in Flanders. We are not chauvinistic neither proud and our language is considered inferior as well.We have been politically betrayed by Flemish politicians for many years. . They stay in politics for a while and then they move up the political ladder and go to the European parliament. Politicians who care are in a "cordon sanitaire". Every group that wants to react against the extreme left media and politics is being called extremist and cannot participate in the national politics. Is this not what is happening worldwide? Furthermore we are an extremely medicalized country. (very chemical). Sugar is difficult if you do not think highly of yourself and if you do not love yourself enough to say "no" every once and a while if you are an empath. Very interesting conversation, thank you!
Great discussion. Love to hear Prof. Noakes eats well and still takes supplements. That is so near and dear to my heart. Interesting to touch on the Randle cycle. YES, we know more now then we did in the 60's. More work needs to be done at the major universities. The main push at the major universities is still focused on medications and plant based. Governments don't want to admit they are feeding military personnel, prisoners (we feed them crap, then have to pay more for their poor health/ health care) and school kids with what I call the "lobbyist" diet and not in accordance with the basic information, data and limited evidence. Food type/ Eating style / lifestyle kills more people than any virus
35:00 Insulin / Hyperinsulinemia / Glucose / Cellular Physiology / Randle Cycle / Glucagon / GLP1 "The Randle effect absolutely doesn't happen to humans during exercise." Prof Tim Noakes That is six minutes of conversation that requires its own video with PowerPoint slides. Way above the average Keto/Carnivore's understanding.
How did we ever manage (pre 1850) before food started to be processed on mass in factory style production. We are now swamped with 'food like substances' they look like food, taste even smells like food but are basically devoid of giving us the necessary vitamins, minerals, macro's that our bodies need on a cellular level.
I remember have a disagreement once about 10 years ago. Where I was absolutely adamant that we didn’t need carbs (I don’t know why I knew this) but for some reason I never used that thought to go keto until last year
I somehow knew, probably heard it read it somewhere when I was in my early 20s, that carbs make you fat. Of course, I forgot about that as I grew older. Now 56, on carnivore and feeling fantastic!
This was a wonderful talk! It's so hard to learn this stuff and then go out into the world and have doctors and nutritionists say otherwise. I'd love to see a panel of yourself and maybe one or two others who "get it", and have a stage debate with 2-3 folks from the "traditionally accepted" approach to diet, disease prevention, and long term health. It'd be helpful to see/hear such a live debate. It'd give you a chance to you medical terms like, "That's BS!":)
Absolutely!!! That would be awesome. Plus vegan side, carnivore side and balanced diet side. Have a three way debate. Downside - no one in the world has a proven one size fits all humans with a long term RCT'S proving which one and why. Yes we have short term studies but nothing long term and properly control with correct size conducted by researchers on all sides.
The Tarahumara Indians of Mexico run 430 miles in two days on a diet of corn beans and squash along with sometimes five percent animal products they also include a fermented corn beverage of three percent alcohol at the start of the run. This information can be found in a book published in 2009 titled Born to run. There doesn't seem to be any blood sugar issues here. Rather it points to the superiority of a plant based diet. I would also recommend What I would consider a Bible on nutrition The macrobiotic path to total health: How to cure the 200 most common ailments by Michio Kushi. Eventually I believe the understanding of what the east and the west have to offer regarding health will come about.
@@johnremesat4464 I visit the Tarahumaras one week every three months en Canyon de Cobre, Creel and Parral Chihuahua. My mother in law lives there. They love to drink and smoke. Lots of health issues as they get older.
Wouldn't it be great to have a worldwide reliable science based knowledge center on ketogenics? With free access for everyone? Like a wikipedia but specializing in keto knowledge? Combined with interactive media for communication and support. This could help so many people to become and stay healthy.
So glad that when I went carnivore I kept my raw milk. It always made me feel great. It manages my severe damage to my esophagus and helps my stomach immensely. I have recently cut back on it a little and I am trying to adjust to more meat and fat. I healed my Lyme with meat and raw milk (nothing else worked) and feel like it is an invaluable food for those that tolerate it and need some real healing. I have seen it help others as well. Everything I have tried to give up the raw milk, all my horrible stomach and esophagus symptoms come back. (I was told when I was 15 that I would need an esophagus replacement over time). I still have my esophagus and I am now 55. Been drinking raw milk for over 20 years. I am doing more fat lately and less milk and am experimenting to see how this goes.
Thanks to you both and all your colleagues for the amazing work you’re doing. We have to turn this ship around. I admire your courage, commitment, and determination.
People ave become too accustomed to thinking in terms of "going on a diet" with the implication that they will be "coming back to normal" eventually. I have found low carb sustainable because I looked at it as a lifestyle change.
Hope Prof Tim Noakes will have will have more research on GKI of less than 2 with reversing metabolic diseases such as Atherosclerosis CKD Stroke Foot Ulcers etc
Great discussion! Changed April this year from carb addicted to low carb training as long endurance atlete (Ironman en ultrarunning). The changes it made to my training and performance are amazing... I turned 50 this year and a week ago I improved my marathon Personal Best with more then 30 minutes...would like to see more about the effect with exogenous ketones...
A first step might be to change the recommendations of the heart foundation and diabetes foundation whose food recommendations are very dated and wrong. Doctors who prescribed statins as a matter of course. Doctors who focus only cholesterol readings only. To encompass Doctors to understand what you teach. Patients should not be second guessing their Doctors. Well done guys great podcast.
What low-carb visionaries fail to consider is that the empire has run on grains for 4000 years. That side will always have the help of governments. Can you imagine the cost of a prison that fed humans a human diet? If corn and wheat stopped being consumed whole economies would fall. Those interests all lobby extensively. This will always be a knowledge of the select few who take the time to unearth it and rationally consider it, but I'm afraid you'll find that most people are hyper authoritarian. And government will always control the authorities on this issue.
I'm 6'1 and 77kg, I would once have thought 81kg to be as light as I could possibly be. My observations tell me the more fat the lighter I get. It would be interesting to hear how this could be. All chemistry is important to this subject. We are not purely organic machines, inorganic chemistry plays a big part. To be a scientist you MUST understand and be able to use the fundamentals.
15:10 Noakes does not appear to be aware of the hypothesis that A1C values can be higher than expected (based on average glucose) if RBCs are living longer than average. He also _appears_ to conflate A1C measurements (% of hemoglobin that is glycated) with glucose concentration in millimoles per liter.
Car racing has influenced regular cars more than just regular cars being made and profitable. Racing has said, what do we need to do to make it last and go faster. Then oh, right we can put this on the regular car and make it safer and longer lasting or not break with less metal added. Or run the regular car longer with less problems. Keep it up nokes and cywes. I plan to buy the book to share with people that want to know what to do and why. It will be a best seller for a few years in a row.
Thank you both for your passion and drive to good health for all. In following you both I have learnt one important thing, I need to educate myself about the validity of the science I read. I respect scientists who admit their rethinking schools of thought, models or approaches. I am searching for answers about chronic kidney disease. How beneficial is the low carb lifestyle for a person with CKD? It feels that plant-based supporters dominates the debate about the best way of eating for persons with CKD.
Hi Sonja….I have FSGS. When diagnosed my eGFR was 17%….that was 13 years ago. I have been keto and ketovore for 5 years….my eGFR has been in mid 50s for over 4 years.
It looks like the originally intended first word of the book title was going to be KETOGENICS, but that the publisher Elsevier ended up starting it with KETOGENIC with no s on the end of the word. I think either should be OK, but it might be good to clarify all listings, so that any confusion does not inhibit pre-orders and sales.
I’ve figured the key to the whole low carb/ketogenic thing after seeing a different take each week from different low card docs. Just stop eating period. That’s the only safe way to go.
Interesting discussion. Two smart guys. Looking forward to Tim Noakes text book.The only disappointing thing is most research is done on men. Nothing wrong with that. But as a female I want to know how it affects women athletes as I feel it’s not transferable.
I live in South Africa Limpopo Bela Bela. Where can I find a Dr that supports carnivore and that would know to do the right blood tests. When I told my gp that I am in kitoses he’s response was ….sis! 1:02:17
What Prof Noakes saying about "I study Glycogen..."#1 reason I left research/Ph.D. dropout because I missed big picture. I am happier as a teacher, I think...
Interesting that the prof takes Metformin at his age when prof Ben Bikman opines that it is a mitochondrial toxin that inhibits exercise gains, especially when the prof has a personal trainer .. that’s the complexity of science right there isn’t it?
I long for further discussion as I can't even walk on Metformin. As soon as I stop my body craves physical activity, and I can put on muscle and burn fat. On Metformin, I can't get myself off the couch. What is wrong with me that I feel like an invalid on Metformin. Off it, I am my old kick-ass self again. 😢 I can't understand the concept that when AMPK is activated it signals that cells are stressed and those cells become senescent. Commonly referred to zombie cells. Well not just my cells go into a zombie state. I turn into a zombie, unable to function in an optimal state. The bigger problem is these zombies cells; research points to the beta cells in pancreas are not producing insulin due to being senescent. Metformin from my perspective and experience seems fraught with danger. I am not an athlete but was in my youth. I just want to optimize my energy to just get through the day like a killer machine. What am I missing in my knowledge? Please help me to understand. The rice diet takes people of meds and there is reversal of diabetes. This diet is low protein and zero fats. High in fruit and sugar. Again what am I missing?
Very disappointed. The Noakes Foundation is based in Cape Town South Africa. If I go onto the internet to buy this book online via the South African sites it will cost me around R3600 . On the Noakes Foundation website this book is available for $112.50 . Which equates to R 2050 at the current exchange rate. Why must we pay almost double in South Africa ? Would like to purchase the book but don't want to be ripped off
When I was growing up, it seemed to be a common belief that if you stopped weight training, it would "run to fat". Interesting to hear of a possible mechanism for that - i.e. that it will happen to people on a high carb diet.
Please comment on the role of Nitric-oxide , allegedly has the role of controlling the insulin and if it’s change to be ineffective and becomes resistant somebody said
Supplements???? Should there be supplements that carnivores should be taking ….? Which are the top ones needed … sometimes I get confused … a lot of info in the keto world .Doc ..we need a keto 101..
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Now THIS is the most exciting thing I've heard in ages! I'm so sick of doctors stuck in their ways, not even looking at an alternative for health issues. Years of calcium oxalates kidney stones, ER visits, surgeries and yet nobody ever talked to me about reducing oxalates in my diet. I've switched to carnivore and arthritis, eye floaters and vertigo are non existent. I have no new kidney stones. The last issue I need to handle is chronic diarrhea which just might be my lack of an enzyme, time will tell. On another note a close friend in early 30s was diagnosed with glioblastoma, given 18 months to live with chemo, 6 months without. After a few surgeries he immeidately went home to start strict carnivore and daily ice baths, even though doctors said diet has nothing to do with it. He looks amazing!! That was almost 10 months ago and with each test, his tumor hasn't budged.....doctors are scratching their heads, still denying the diet and lifestyle. He leaves their office with a smile and continues living a beautiful life, golfing, working, traveling and not missing a beat. Thank you two for all you do for us. Please take over our sick care industry and give us our lives back!!!!🥩❤
When I was young, I followed Professor Noakes's work to be a better runner. Now, I follow his work to have better metabolic health. I feel greatly indebted to that man.
Pushing 60 in a few Months, Started Ketogenic March 2018 at 254 lbs, Full Carnivore January 2022… Down 192 lbs with Muscle Gain, These Two Smart Caring Docs, Along with Dr. Ken D Berry Have Saved My Life ❤️Doc Bart Kay Keeps Me Motivated and Educated Thank You All 🥩🥩🥩🥩
Isn't Professor Bart Kay against Carnivore diet and presents a plant based dominant diet instead?
@@LatahAshford No Absolutely Not
I wish I were losing weight as quickly as others, but I had a TIA last August and still healing from that.
Congratulations and really keep up the great effort. I a 68.😊
@@LatahAshford He doesn't eat veg at all.
I'm a Filipino/American 70 year old woman from Ohio. Asians love to eat our most staple food, the RICE. I stopped eating rice for a month now, and i eat mostly wild caught salmon, organic grass pasture raised beef and eggs (which is my everyday favorite). I lost lots of weights especially on my belly part doing that. And this is the first time I was able to see you Doctor and got so interested with all you're saying in your video. I already subscribed to your RUclips and will keep on watching your show. Thanks doctor Cywes. Just have to stop watching as I have to attend my church service now.
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People that say that a low carbohydrate diet is unsustainable are the same people who have not fully recovered from their carb and sugar addiction
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I have a friend that's been doing carnivore for about three months. He mainly eats ribeye steaks, bacon, and eggs. He has lost about 60#. I'm at a healthy weight, but I'm thinking of trying it. Meal prep would be very easy.
My hero. I've been keto for over 8 yrs - since first watching Tim's keto presentations. Saw him giving evidence for 2 days in Cape Town - he was incredible.
Thank you Dr Cywes for this incredible interview of one of the most important human being alive in this time and age .. Professor Tim Noakes is my hero .. I have changed my life from the day I heard Professor on channel 702 almost 6 years ago and I have all his books and looking forward to buying this one as well.. lotsa prayers from Johannesburg South Africa 🇿🇦
I'm well into my 60's and as kids no one had access to sugar type foods and now when I look back I think a lot of the reason was to do with what we now call disposable income .. most of the families had very little , almost the case that the better and easier life has become the worse it's been for us overall.
Totally agree with you. Fizzy drinks for us children were strictly only for birthdays and Christmas. We ate home cooked food that was freshly cooked every day. We didn’t have a freezer until I was in my early teens so a walk to the local shops was almost every day.
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create hard times.
Hard times create strong men.
Unfortunately right now we are in phase 3.
Only for those that are not informed. Gov never informs!
True, there was hardly a penny of "disposable" income in our household growing up. Now in today's culture we feel somehow ripped off in life without it.
Tony, yes. It's instructive to watch tv episodes and films from the 1960s and '70s because everybody's naturally slender. Even Kojak, who used to look fat to me, is slim compared to today's standards. I remember having a fulfilling philosophical conversation with my mother about the new law in the late 1960's that required all commercial food labels to include every ingredient used. It became a new adventure to closely inspect everything before buying, which I still do, and the list is getting longer and more multi-syllabic--titanium dioxide, polyethelene glycol--all going down our gullets and into our car oils. And cosmetics. No wonder having a cigarette for lunch doesn't take the pounds off like it used to.
Much respect to both of these amazing men!
20:30 THIS! It's a nuance that some folks seem to miss - the fact that our bodies can burn both glucose and fat is an agreed situation. And that our bodies will burn glucose more readily and preferentially is also widely agreed. I think what's missing is the WHY does/can our bodies burn the glucose so quickly and, in healthy people, easily. Is it because our bodies DON'T WANT glucose hanging about in the bloodstream and that it will throw all it's resources (insulin etc.) at the product ingested to get rid of it and keep it from causing us damage down the line. Insulin is (amongst other jobs) a firefighter trying to put out the fire that a high sugar/glucose/carb diet keeps lighting.
Prof Noakes and Rob Cywes are to be commended for their incredible insight and work that they are doing.We will look back in history of human health and thank them big time.Thanking you.JHB-SA.
Absolutely fascinating discussion; my life has been totally changed as a result of keto/low carb lifestyle. I cannot thank you enough! I am 76 and not slowing down anytime soon!
Such a joy to hear this gentlemen speak. May God grant him 50 more years with us. Great interview Dr. Cywes!!
Brilliant ! SA takes the lead in bringing PROPER eating habits to the people. Doctors and especially DIETICIANS , who are totally ignorant /misinformed about the low carb high fat or completely carnivore way of eating should read this book URGENTLY. Thanks Prof Tim Noakes and also Doc Cywes for all your hard work.
The book is next level. SA shd be so proud of Nutrition Network yet the establishment stays critical
Oh my god what he said about you not knowing how crappy you feel when you eat the standard sugar laden diet is so spot on at least for me I feel like a teenager ever since doing keto/carnivore or younger some days! Things like sinus problems, all went away and never have a stuffed up nose I never realized how little I had used my sinuses and nose for breathing until I got off all the carbohydrates and notice how well our sinuses are supposed to work. I had some ice cream yesterday a very small amount probably half a cup, and it made me feel awful almost immediately not worth the sweet taste in my mouth.
Personally, I don’t mind using the word diet, but I do mind when people think it means I’m trying to lose weight
Yes Tim Noake’s leadership can bring the entire low-carb movement together. It’s wonderful he is willing to go forward in such a way. Very beautiful conversation.
Your compliments and reiterating how much of a positive influence he has had on his students had to be the best feeling for him. It is the influence on positive outcomes, the mentoring of the next generations, which makes it all so worthwhile. Not just one for him, but many.
OH my GOD!!! that's me! I'm addicted to sweet tastes! I kept trying to express this to others but didn't have the vocabulary for it. Thank you so much!
What a great discussion! Thank you so much Dr.Cywes and Prof. Noakes. Can’t wait to read the book. So grateful!
Let the science lead. Power corrupts, so don't give it away. We don't need personalities leading us anywhere unless they have impirical data and when their hypothesis is disproved they get out of the way. I tolerate advice and information but reserve the right to a final say about my way and my need to verify.
I Always make time to listen to Tim Noakes and thank you Rob for bringing him to us once again
Epidemiology is mainly statistics and therefore best opportunity to select what is convenient to believe.
This was a fantastic talk! I'm not a medical person, but I still found it interesting to hear you two bounce ideas off of each other. This gives me hope that one day this way of thinking will become mainstream ❤️
Good to see Tim looking so good! A true legend (I am a runner who devoured his "Lore of Running" back in the '80s)
It would be so wonderful to have a specialization in the medical community that could REALLY assist those of us who have trouble with metabolic disease that are NOT athletes. That would be like paradise!!!
Coming
Dr Noakes is my new favorite ❤️
A talk that needs to be seen by anyone! Truly appreciate!
As a T1D, basically a lay person, I found this informative. There are a few terms that I will need to look up to fully understand some of the medical jargon used. I still gained valuable knowledge on this talk. Thank you!
Completely revolutionise ur mgmnt
Being almost completely carnivore myself, as well as an information Junkie; I cannot wait to get my hands on this book.
AMAZING video. Would LOVE a cohesive group and LOTS of doctors engaged in this space. We need that SO badly!
I have found a stepping stone toward relieving my carb addiction (5 apples , chocolate and nuts, in between meals) .
I postpone my snacks till after my meal so i find instead of many pieces, many handfuls and many apples ,i often dont even get round to any of those unneccesary snacks.
WHAT IF? If there is a relationship between cognitive orientated decline / metabolic health / diet and we commit folks to care homes and hospitals where they are further fed high carb diets ... hastening their demise ... I saw a RIDICULOUS photo recently of the hospital meal fed to a patient after suffering cardiac issues - pure sugar.
Getting rid of my addictions has been one of the main purposes in life. Negative thoughts about oneself can also be very addictive. We are afraid of our light and power. It is so much more accepted to keep low profile especially in Flanders. We are not chauvinistic neither proud and our language is considered inferior as well.We have been politically betrayed by Flemish politicians for many years. . They stay in politics for a while and then they move up the political ladder and go to the European parliament. Politicians who care are in a "cordon sanitaire". Every group that wants to react against the extreme left media and politics is being called extremist and cannot participate in the national politics. Is this not what is happening worldwide? Furthermore we are an extremely medicalized country. (very chemical). Sugar is difficult if you do not think highly of yourself and if you do not love yourself enough to say "no" every once and a while if you are an empath. Very interesting conversation, thank you!
Great discussion. Love to hear Prof. Noakes eats well and still takes supplements. That is so near and dear to my heart. Interesting to touch on the Randle cycle. YES, we know more now then we did in the 60's. More work needs to be done at the major universities. The main push at the major universities is still focused on medications and plant based. Governments don't want to admit they are feeding military personnel, prisoners (we feed them crap, then have to pay more for their poor health/ health care) and school kids with what I call the "lobbyist" diet and not in accordance with the basic information, data and limited evidence. Food type/ Eating style / lifestyle kills more people than any virus
In addition to the prisons and military food menu, the sugar/carb-laden food dispensed in the hospitals!
35:00 Insulin / Hyperinsulinemia / Glucose / Cellular Physiology / Randle Cycle / Glucagon / GLP1
"The Randle effect absolutely doesn't happen to humans during exercise." Prof Tim Noakes
That is six minutes of conversation that requires its own video with PowerPoint slides. Way above the average Keto/Carnivore's understanding.
Coming up. He is correct
Elon Musk, Tim Noakes, Robert Cywes--South Africans changing the world!!
Why idolise Elon he wants to put a chip in your brain
Tim Noakes is from Zimbabwe, I believe.
Elon Musk is changing the world and not in a good way. Don't be fooled.
Excellent. Thanks for providing the link to the textbook. I look forward to bringing it to some doctor's appointments in 2023.
How did we ever manage (pre 1850) before food started to be processed on mass in factory style production.
We are now swamped with 'food like substances' they look like food, taste even smells like food but are basically devoid of giving us the necessary vitamins, minerals, macro's that our bodies need on a cellular level.
I remember have a disagreement once about 10 years ago. Where I was absolutely adamant that we didn’t need carbs (I don’t know why I knew this) but for some reason I never used that thought to go keto until last year
I somehow knew, probably heard it read it somewhere when I was in my early 20s, that carbs make you fat. Of course, I forgot about that as I grew older. Now 56, on carnivore and feeling fantastic!
This was a wonderful talk! It's so hard to learn this stuff and then go out into the world and have doctors and nutritionists say otherwise. I'd love to see a panel of yourself and maybe one or two others who "get it", and have a stage debate with 2-3 folks from the "traditionally accepted" approach to diet, disease prevention, and long term health. It'd be helpful to see/hear such a live debate. It'd give you a chance to you medical terms like, "That's BS!":)
Absolutely!!! That would be awesome. Plus vegan side, carnivore side and balanced diet side. Have a three way debate. Downside - no one in the world has a proven one size fits all humans with a long term RCT'S proving which one and why. Yes we have short term studies but nothing long term and properly control with correct size conducted by researchers on all sides.
The Tarahumara Indians of Mexico run 430 miles in two days on a diet of corn beans and squash along with sometimes five percent animal products they also include a fermented corn beverage of three percent alcohol at the start of the run. This information can be found in a book published in 2009 titled Born to run. There doesn't seem to be any blood sugar issues here. Rather it points to the superiority of a plant based diet. I would also recommend What I would consider a Bible on nutrition The macrobiotic path to total health: How to cure the 200 most common ailments by Michio Kushi. Eventually I believe the understanding of what the east and the west have to offer regarding health will come about.
@@johnremesat4464 I visit the Tarahumaras one week every three months en Canyon de Cobre, Creel and Parral Chihuahua. My mother in law lives there. They love to drink and smoke. Lots of health issues as they get older.
@@DrAJ_LatinAmerica The processed food has set in in more recent times. The example of what they have done before that is remarkable.
No one wants to debate Professor Noakes, because they'd have to think, and they also don't want to prove him right (again.)
Wouldn't it be great to have a worldwide reliable science based knowledge center on ketogenics? With free access for everyone? Like a wikipedia but specializing in keto knowledge? Combined with interactive media for communication and support. This could help so many people to become and stay healthy.
This is the beginning
I belive there is some keto research going on at Duke.
You do, it's called RUclips!
Great video by 2 great doctors!🇿🇦
I have preordered the textbook. Very much looking forward to it. I have benefited from the work of you both in so many ways, thank you.
Pre-ordered book and looking forward very much to reading it!
So glad that when I went carnivore I kept my raw milk. It always made me feel great. It manages my severe damage to my esophagus and helps my stomach immensely. I have recently cut back on it a little and I am trying to adjust to more meat and fat. I healed my Lyme with meat and raw milk (nothing else worked) and feel like it is an invaluable food for those that tolerate it and need some real healing. I have seen it help others as well. Everything I have tried to give up the raw milk, all my horrible stomach and esophagus symptoms come back. (I was told when I was 15 that I would need an esophagus replacement over time). I still have my esophagus and I am now 55. Been drinking raw milk for over 20 years. I am doing more fat lately and less milk and am experimenting to see how this goes.
Thanks to you both and all your colleagues for the amazing work you’re doing. We have to turn this ship around. I admire your courage, commitment, and determination.
People ave become too accustomed to thinking in terms of "going on a diet" with the implication that they will be "coming back to normal" eventually.
I have found low carb sustainable because I looked at it as a lifestyle change.
Thanks so much for sharing this interview. Fantastic information.. the book, (I just preordered!) And what the future holds..tremendous!
Hope Prof Tim Noakes will have will have more research on GKI of less than 2 with reversing metabolic diseases such as Atherosclerosis CKD Stroke Foot Ulcers etc
Awesome.
If Professor Thomas Seyfried wrote on paragraph, I would read the entire book - twice!!
Great discussion! Changed April this year from carb addicted to low carb training as long endurance atlete (Ironman en ultrarunning). The changes it made to my training and performance are amazing... I turned 50 this year and a week ago I improved my marathon Personal Best with more then 30 minutes...would like to see more about the effect with exogenous ketones...
I would love to see the standard instruction for personal training certification change along those lines! Carb loading is still the basis there.
Fantastic dialog, can't wait for the book!
I'll buy this book. I will save up to buy a shelf full of these books to loan out!
Excellent!
A first step might be to change the recommendations of the heart foundation and diabetes foundation whose food recommendations are very dated and wrong. Doctors who prescribed statins as a matter of course. Doctors who focus only cholesterol readings only. To encompass Doctors to understand what you teach. Patients should not be second guessing their Doctors. Well done guys great podcast.
Love the thought about leadership
What low-carb visionaries fail to consider is that the empire has run on grains for 4000 years. That side will always have the help of governments. Can you imagine the cost of a prison that fed humans a human diet? If corn and wheat stopped being consumed whole economies would fall. Those interests all lobby extensively. This will always be a knowledge of the select few who take the time to unearth it and rationally consider it, but I'm afraid you'll find that most people are hyper authoritarian. And government will always control the authorities on this issue.
Great insight. Just look at government subsidies of corn, soybeans, wheat, rice, dairy, & sugar.
I'm 6'1 and 77kg, I would once have thought 81kg to be as light as I could possibly be. My observations tell me the more fat the lighter I get. It would be interesting to hear how this could be.
All chemistry is important to this subject. We are not purely organic machines, inorganic chemistry plays a big part. To be a scientist you MUST understand and be able to use the fundamentals.
15:10 Noakes does not appear to be aware of the hypothesis that A1C values can be higher than expected (based on average glucose) if RBCs are living longer than average.
He also _appears_ to conflate A1C measurements (% of hemoglobin that is glycated) with glucose concentration in millimoles per liter.
Thank you for this, Tim Noakes is amazing🥰
What a huge challenge. Good work to all of you influencers, researchers, practitioners, physicians, scientists, and thought leaders.
What a pair!! Love this!!
Car racing has influenced regular cars more than just regular cars being made and profitable. Racing has said, what do we need to do to make it last and go faster. Then oh, right we can put this on the regular car and make it safer and longer lasting or not break with less metal added. Or run the regular car longer with less problems.
Keep it up nokes and cywes. I plan to buy the book to share with people that want to know what to do and why. It will be a best seller for a few years in a row.
Admiration 100%❤
So very informative, thank you both!
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
Hello there 👋 how are you doing today?
Fantastic discussion!
Thank you both for your passion and drive to good health for all. In following you both I have learnt one important thing, I need to educate myself about the validity of the science I read. I respect scientists who admit their rethinking schools of thought, models or approaches. I am searching for answers about chronic kidney disease. How beneficial is the low carb lifestyle for a person with CKD? It feels that plant-based supporters dominates the debate about the best way of eating for persons with CKD.
Hi Sonja….I have FSGS. When diagnosed my eGFR was 17%….that was 13 years ago. I have been keto and ketovore for 5 years….my eGFR has been in mid 50s for over 4 years.
Thank you for this the book sounds amazing
Thanks for this and your work - it is very important. How much money could be saved on spending in the NHS in the UK? It is mind boggling.
two great men !! thank you for this
Absolutely wonderful conversation ! Looking forward to the book. Nayiri
Please use captions for clarity. Regarding a panel of experts why don’t you have a channel with experts on a regular cycle quarterly or even monthly?
It looks like the originally intended first word of the book title was going to be KETOGENICS, but that the publisher Elsevier ended up starting it with KETOGENIC with no s on the end of the word. I think either should be OK, but it might be good to clarify all listings, so that any confusion does not inhibit pre-orders and sales.
The cover shown on Amazon seems to have no S, but the listing has an S. Strange.
Yes, thanks
Just paid $100 for the Kindle edition. Can't wait to get into it.
This is absolutely fascinating!
I’ve figured the key to the whole low carb/ketogenic thing after seeing a different take each week from different low card docs. Just stop eating period. That’s the only safe way to go.
Just eat animal protein and fats....is that too simple? 😁
@@songsabai3794 that doesn’t generate repeat viewers apparently.
@@Praxeus514 Yes, we wouldn't have all these interesting videos in the carnivore space if the only message was the obvious....obviously! 😁
Interesting discussion. Two smart guys. Looking forward to Tim Noakes text book.The only disappointing thing is most research is done on men. Nothing wrong with that. But as a female I want to know how it affects women athletes as I feel it’s not transferable.
Why would you feel it is not transferable? Humans are humans.
@@philthyphil3324Yes, but....women's bodies are different....menses, developing babies, nurturing babies' development.
Could maybe Prof. Noakes produce a version of this book aimed at a literate but not expert audience?
Gotta get this book!
Interesting take on Metformin!
What a treat.
I am so thankful for videos like this that help me to make informed decisions. Thank you.
I’m buying the text right away!!! love everything you do you really are inspiring and I am so pleased to be a NN practitioner 🙏🌟😇
I live in South Africa Limpopo Bela Bela. Where can I find a Dr that supports carnivore and that would know to do the right blood tests. When I told my gp that I am in kitoses he’s response was ….sis! 1:02:17
Some would say take no supplements. Some studies think they cause more harm. maybe allegedly. But like tim, experiment and see what works.
Here’s a question if your body is making the glucose who’s to say that isn’t the right amount of glucose you should have at that time? 😮
What Prof Noakes saying about "I study Glycogen..."#1 reason I left research/Ph.D. dropout because I missed big picture. I am happier as a teacher, I think...
Very true
Why does Tim Noakes choose Metformin over berberine? Does he use a continuous glucose monitor to see what foods he’s sensitive to?
Interesting that the prof takes Metformin at his age when prof Ben Bikman opines that it is a mitochondrial toxin that inhibits exercise gains, especially when the prof has a personal trainer .. that’s the complexity of science right there isn’t it?
I long for further discussion as I can't even walk on Metformin. As soon as I stop my body craves physical activity, and I can put on muscle and burn fat. On Metformin, I can't get myself off the couch. What is wrong with me that I feel like an invalid on Metformin. Off it, I am my old kick-ass self again. 😢
I can't understand the concept that when AMPK is activated it signals that cells are stressed and those cells become senescent. Commonly referred to zombie cells. Well not just my cells go into a zombie state. I turn into a zombie, unable to function in an optimal state. The bigger problem is these zombies cells; research points to the beta cells in pancreas are not producing insulin due to being senescent. Metformin from my perspective and experience seems fraught with danger. I am not an athlete but was in my youth. I just want to optimize my energy to just get through the day like a killer machine.
What am I missing in my knowledge? Please help me to understand.
The rice diet takes people of meds and there is reversal of diabetes. This diet is low protein and zero fats. High in fruit and sugar.
Again what am I missing?
Dr. What is your opinion, do u think diabetes can be kept in remission for 20, 30, or 40 years ??
excellent!
The book "Ketogenic" costs $105 US on Amazon! A bit out of my price range, unfortunately. 😐
Unfortunately, typical textbook pricing.
Very disappointed. The Noakes Foundation is based in Cape Town South Africa. If I go onto the internet to buy this book online via the South African sites it will cost me around R3600 . On the Noakes Foundation website this book is available for $112.50 . Which equates to R 2050 at the current exchange rate. Why must we pay almost double in South Africa ? Would like to purchase the book but don't want to be ripped off
I pay more attention to how I breathe and to what I drink than to what I eat and don’t have chronic physical or medical issues.
Congratulations
When I was growing up, it seemed to be a common belief that if you stopped weight training, it would "run to fat". Interesting to hear of a possible mechanism for that - i.e. that it will happen to people on a high carb diet.
Please comment on the role of Nitric-oxide , allegedly has the role of controlling the insulin and if it’s change to be ineffective and becomes resistant somebody said
Supplements???? Should there be supplements that carnivores should be taking ….? Which are the top ones needed … sometimes I get confused … a lot of info in the keto world .Doc ..we need a keto 101..
I only use fishoil. Check bloodwork to know
Now I'm confused
On carnivore, I understood that glucose is unnecessary, even for athletic performance as ketones are used as primary fuel. No?
What is the name of Tim Noakes New book discussed in video ?