I dont know how I haven't run across your channel before now, but just wanted to say this is probably the best mouse review I've ever seen. The attention to detail in the shape analysis down to the relationship between coating and hand feel in a grip is absolutely bang on. I've never thought about translating an ergo grip to an ambi and that has been a game changer. Thanks a lot!
Not all people care about all the small thing ,. Finally i found perfectionist gang in mouse review field , I really love the way u review the shape, zoom into all details about touch , Really glad to hear the way u explain . here is the list new released mice u might interested in , pwnage Ultra Custom Wireless Ambi(good one to make comparison vid with bolt) and pluse fire haste wireless (which has flat side that no one interest in) both are tooowide . but in prefer flat side small mice because they give me more freedom on my grip when coming to precision and tracking .there are so many egg shape and safe shape on market , but when it come to flat side small mouse , not a single one , with usable sensor . feel like abandoned child of mouse market , the reason m telling u this is to let u know there are people who still love flat side with pointy head small mice. dont let bias taken over u when u taste a product like the famous rjn.and i hope to see more part of original feet feeling section that come with mouse about how its feeling in tracking and micro-adjustment .because not all people use aftermarket feets . thz u :)
I'm gonna 100% try to relax my grip more on the mouse, I was thinking the sides is where I lose a lot of stability while playing. The coating you mentioned is also another reason picking up and moving the mouse is such a horrible feeling. I have actually dropped the mouse while playing, think a grip change might help that though. Side buttons where a definite shock too, didn't think they would go the Pulsar route with them, great review as always. Thanks for giving new grip advice 👌
If you're feeling the importance of wireless then you need to give the slimcord / aircords / lgg slim cables a try for your favourite wired shapes, legit a big step up from a trad paracord where you cant feel the cord at all.
For sure I'll be paracording my np-01s once pulsars skates drop for it. LGG's cables looks super high quality and the np-01s shape seems like a great candidate for glass. Might even cable swap my za13-c as well just to maximize a mouse I already love.
+1 on having a more relaxed grip. If you rest your hand, fingers naturally curl. Palm grip is actually more tense than a relaxed claw, because you have to put a conscious effort in straightening your fingers. An aggressive claw puts tension in the forearm. Tension makes my aim shakier, and also makes my hand get tired faster. I've watched how pros hold their mouse and those who use a mouse with a good fit for their hand size tend to have a more relaxed claw. If their claw is aggressive, it's because the mouse is quite small for their hand size.
Its a mouse Ill consider trying. I have a close grip to yours and I have a ZA13-c coming so once I have that with your updated review Ill consider trying it. Yeah Corepad grips are far better then BT.L's, just got them today wow they are grippy I'm impressed
Most would say the s2 because its similar in size and design but I think it feels like its perfectly in between the s2 and za13 for me when you consider the curves. If you want something that's thinner and taller in the back, go with the za13, or if you want something taller in the front and boxier in the back get the s2. Both mice are also much more curvy in the sides so keep that in mind.
Judging from what is said in the video: Once corepad grips come out for the Bolt, it has the potential to be better than the ZA13. + the Bolt is wireless so probably ZA13.
I dont know if anyone can answer this, but does the white version have a different coating than to the black one? I also have some issues with sweat, not major, but would still be nice not to have the problem.
If you have dryer hands and claw its basically a perfect mouse and the price is great so its really hard not to recommend it. Its shape isn't too far off from the viper mini as well, it's larger but the hand fee is similar, so it should be a good option to tied you over until the eventual Razer release.
Unlucky, I would recommend getting in touch with their support to get a replacement. I've heard great things about their customer service so they should be able to hook you up.
That’s the Vaxee PA in the winter 21 color way. It’s a solid pad that go I’ve made a full review for on the channel if you’re interested. That particular design is discontinued but you can still buy other options.
Vaxee said that they are designing a symmetrical shape and are working on releasing a wireless mouse eventually so I assume the will bring these things together for one release sometime this year. Hopefully they can bring their signature attention to detail to mouse with more modern features and a classic symmetrical shape.
How would you compare this with the g303se in terms of performance. Ever since I got the g303 I legit can't go back to any other mouse and no new mouse appeals to me. This mouse seems like an exception apart from the universal hate for the coating. Really interested in it but idk
That's really hard to properly asses because of the coating. I want to say the g303se is better because no other mouse fits my hand like that shape does but I can see a world where a bolt that I can hold properly would be my go-to over it. The Bolts shape is more neutral so its easier to swap on and off of without feeling awkward as opposed to the g303se that makes everything else feel bad in comparison. Also, the Bolt gets me into a more relaxed grip that has been feeling more consistent than the g303se's pincir claw when I test it on other mice, but again its impossible to test for consistency on the Bolt in its current state. If other mice aren't appealing to you then I'm not sure if the Bolt would either. It's a really good mouse don't get me wrong, I only have one issue with it, but it's fairly boring in it's design. It doesn't quite have that wow factor that the g303se has where the moment you put your hand on it you can tell it's something special. Instead, it gives you the feeling that nothing is either wrong or out of the ordinary about it; it's perfectly boring. I've felt this helps a lot to get the mouse out of the way because I'm not really focused on what's appealing about it or what it does that's unique. It is just a mouse, for better or worse.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Yeah i think ima stick to the g303 then. Thanks for the great breakdown. I know for you its probably weird as a reviewer switching mice going off the g303, but having used it for months now whenever i touch my other mice i just go ew LOL. I have big enough hands that i can even relaxed fingertip it for normal use so its amazing. The ONLY reason i dislike it a bit it how wide it is in the middle. So ive been thinking how good a g305 superlight would be but at the same time the slant on the sides and the narrow front the rest of the package on the g303 is TOO good.
A new g305 update would be pretty cool to check out. The original started to hurt my hand after a couple months but with my new grip style and a lower weight, I think it could be nice. The convex sides are pretty awkward too, but the gpx coating should fix that as well.
No, not yet. It was waiting for them to fix the qc issues on the wireless and lower the price but it seems they keep making entirely new versions and it's only getting more expensive. The metal alloy looks super cool though, so that one is going to be an instant cop as long as it releases in the current decade.
The Bolt would likely be your best bet. The Aerox has always had weird issues and the mouse is quite large so it may start to feel a little clunky while the bolt feels solid and has a more universal shape.
Yeah, I don't see anything really pushing the g303se off of its spot at the top. Its just too perfect for me. My hands are 18 * 9-9.5 cm. Maybe someday I'll remember to mention my hand size in a video.
No, the g303se is still my perfect mouse so I don't really see it ever getting pushed off of my number one spot, but it is a super unique design so I always have a secondary spot open for a more traditional design which is where the bolt could potentially sit.
@@KraftyCraftKraf the g303 is my fav shape as well. I saw the superglide review, what's the best pad combo to those glass feet, a Saturn, Jupiter, Venus(otsu, which I'm using now with stock feet)? I play apex cod and halo, for context. Thanks for answering!!!
The Otsu is already really solid for glass feet so you should be fine just sticking with your current pad. I do think that the Venus does similar to an Otsu but a little better for glass feet because of the rougher texture and less floaty feeling of the pad. Overall, my favorite pad for glass feet is the WuGi2. It's a heavily synthetic surface which always creates a great texture for glass and it's naturally a surface with low resistance on small motions and some dynamic friction for stopping power so it amplifies what glass feet already do well. The Saturn is also a good shout if you want more friction and control.
this mice was a big shame for fnatic. huge QC problems, rly bad support in terms of click problems and payed reviews with pre selected mice. for me by far biggest disappointment of 2022.
I dont know how I haven't run across your channel before now, but just wanted to say this is probably the best mouse review I've ever seen. The attention to detail in the shape analysis down to the relationship between coating and hand feel in a grip is absolutely bang on. I've never thought about translating an ergo grip to an ambi and that has been a game changer. Thanks a lot!
Not all people care about all the small thing ,. Finally i found perfectionist gang in mouse review field , I really love the way u review the shape, zoom into all details about touch , Really glad to hear the way u explain . here is the list new released mice u might interested in , pwnage Ultra Custom Wireless Ambi(good one to make comparison vid with bolt) and pluse fire haste wireless (which has flat side that no one interest in) both are tooowide . but in prefer flat side small mice because they give me more freedom on my grip when coming to precision and tracking .there are so many egg shape and safe shape on market , but when it come to flat side small mouse , not a single one , with usable sensor . feel like abandoned child of mouse market , the reason m telling u this is to let u know there are people who still love flat side with pointy head small mice. dont let bias taken over u when u taste a product like the famous rjn.and i hope to see more part of original feet feeling section that come with mouse about how its feeling in tracking and micro-adjustment .because not all people use aftermarket feets . thz u :)
I'm gonna 100% try to relax my grip more on the mouse, I was thinking the sides is where I lose a lot of stability while playing. The coating you mentioned is also another reason picking up and moving the mouse is such a horrible feeling. I have actually dropped the mouse while playing, think a grip change might help that though. Side buttons where a definite shock too, didn't think they would go the Pulsar route with them, great review as always. Thanks for giving new grip advice 👌
If you're feeling the importance of wireless then you need to give the slimcord / aircords / lgg slim cables a try for your favourite wired shapes, legit a big step up from a trad paracord where you cant feel the cord at all.
For sure I'll be paracording my np-01s once pulsars skates drop for it. LGG's cables looks super high quality and the np-01s shape seems like a great candidate for glass. Might even cable swap my za13-c as well just to maximize a mouse I already love.
@@KraftyCraftKraf you’ll love it
+1 on having a more relaxed grip. If you rest your hand, fingers naturally curl. Palm grip is actually more tense than a relaxed claw, because you have to put a conscious effort in straightening your fingers. An aggressive claw puts tension in the forearm. Tension makes my aim shakier, and also makes my hand get tired faster. I've watched how pros hold their mouse and those who use a mouse with a good fit for their hand size tend to have a more relaxed claw. If their claw is aggressive, it's because the mouse is quite small for their hand size.
Love ur reviews man, keep it up!
It's a rival 110 shape.
The roccat burst pro also is a rival 100 copy shape.
It's my most prefered shape ever.
I think im still going to buy it regardless of my sweaty hands. Grip tapes masterrace
Love the shape, Uggh would have bought if it had a better motion sync sensor.
How does it compare to superlight?
Its a mouse Ill consider trying. I have a close grip to yours and I have a ZA13-c coming so once I have that with your updated review Ill consider trying it.
Yeah Corepad grips are far better then BT.L's, just got them today wow they are grippy I'm impressed
Please update us on the Za13c . Btw where did you get one? I haven't seen them available for sale for weeks now in Europe.
How fast does it wake from sleep or in activity?
I love the Bolt. I think it's my main, but I'm curious to try the Zowie's. which do you think is closest to the Bolt?
Most would say the s2 because its similar in size and design but I think it feels like its perfectly in between the s2 and za13 for me when you consider the curves.
If you want something that's thinner and taller in the back, go with the za13, or if you want something taller in the front and boxier in the back get the s2. Both mice are also much more curvy in the sides so keep that in mind.
rival 110, roccat burst pro.
Rival 3
Za13C or the Bolt for 18.5/10 pincer claw ?
same question here
Judging from what is said in the video: Once corepad grips come out for the Bolt, it has the potential to be better than the ZA13. + the Bolt is wireless so probably ZA13.
I just run a small desktop fan for the sweat. Works great 👍
I have incredibly dry hands, so I guess it should be great for me :D
have you tried the mz1? its lowkey insane for claw bcs of the hump (at least for me).
and as always awesome review!
The day xtrfy release a wireless version with no holes on the sides and no RGB it will be a purchase for me
can vouch as a claw gripper, the hump makes this mouse great for my grip.
I dont know if anyone can answer this, but does the white version have a different coating than to the black one? I also have some issues with sweat, not major, but would still be nice not to have the problem.
yes, the white mouse has a coating that prevents it from yellowing and shining
@@trollgames3554 thanks for the reply
Is this good enough to get before Razer eventually drops out the Viper Mini Ultimate? Curious to know from you and everyone.
If you have dryer hands and claw its basically a perfect mouse and the price is great so its really hard not to recommend it. Its shape isn't too far off from the viper mini as well, it's larger but the hand fee is similar, so it should be a good option to tied you over until the eventual Razer release.
To bad the copy i got has up and down button wobble/ play on the main triggers. 😭
Unlucky, I would recommend getting in touch with their support to get a replacement. I've heard great things about their customer service so they should be able to hook you up.
I know it’s not on topic but does anyone know what this mouse pad is in the video and is it good?
That’s the Vaxee PA in the winter 21 color way. It’s a solid pad that go I’ve made a full review for on the channel if you’re interested. That particular design is discontinued but you can still buy other options.
@@KraftyCraftKraf thank you for the help bro ❤️🙌
lets wait for vaxee's version of this. vaxee of course only release wired mice this year -.-
Vaxee said that they are designing a symmetrical shape and are working on releasing a wireless mouse eventually so I assume the will bring these things together for one release sometime this year. Hopefully they can bring their signature attention to detail to mouse with more modern features and a classic symmetrical shape.
wait u have an orochi v2? when is the review dropping
I've had the Orochi v2 since day one. Maybe I'll make a review sometime. I keep meaning to put one together but it always gets put off.
How would you compare this with the g303se in terms of performance. Ever since I got the g303 I legit can't go back to any other mouse and no new mouse appeals to me. This mouse seems like an exception apart from the universal hate for the coating. Really interested in it but idk
That's really hard to properly asses because of the coating. I want to say the g303se is better because no other mouse fits my hand like that shape does but I can see a world where a bolt that I can hold properly would be my go-to over it. The Bolts shape is more neutral so its easier to swap on and off of without feeling awkward as opposed to the g303se that makes everything else feel bad in comparison. Also, the Bolt gets me into a more relaxed grip that has been feeling more consistent than the g303se's pincir claw when I test it on other mice, but again its impossible to test for consistency on the Bolt in its current state.
If other mice aren't appealing to you then I'm not sure if the Bolt would either. It's a really good mouse don't get me wrong, I only have one issue with it, but it's fairly boring in it's design. It doesn't quite have that wow factor that the g303se has where the moment you put your hand on it you can tell it's something special. Instead, it gives you the feeling that nothing is either wrong or out of the ordinary about it; it's perfectly boring. I've felt this helps a lot to get the mouse out of the way because I'm not really focused on what's appealing about it or what it does that's unique. It is just a mouse, for better or worse.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Yeah i think ima stick to the g303 then. Thanks for the great breakdown. I know for you its probably weird as a reviewer switching mice going off the g303, but having used it for months now whenever i touch my other mice i just go ew LOL. I have big enough hands that i can even relaxed fingertip it for normal use so its amazing. The ONLY reason i dislike it a bit it how wide it is in the middle. So ive been thinking how good a g305 superlight would be but at the same time the slant on the sides and the narrow front the rest of the package on the g303 is TOO good.
A new g305 update would be pretty cool to check out. The original started to hurt my hand after a couple months but with my new grip style and a lower weight, I think it could be nice. The convex sides are pretty awkward too, but the gpx coating should fix that as well.
Bummer, I have sweaty hands (even ZA13 becomes too slick despite being my main) so if the coating is really _that bad_ I just won't even try the Bolt.
Yeah, if the c series coating gets too slippery for you this mouse will be a no go without grip tape.
Have you ever tried the Hati-S (wireless/wired) ?
No, not yet. It was waiting for them to fix the qc issues on the wireless and lower the price but it seems they keep making entirely new versions and it's only getting more expensive. The metal alloy looks super cool though, so that one is going to be an instant cop as long as it releases in the current decade.
should I buy this mouse or aerox 3 2022 wireless? My hands are 18 by 10cm, I claw grip and mostly play apex. Can’t decide between these two
The Bolt would likely be your best bet. The Aerox has always had weird issues and the mouse is quite large so it may start to feel a little clunky while the bolt feels solid and has a more universal shape.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Thanks, I've ordered bolt
Is the g303 se still your main/goat? Also how big are your hands?
Yeah, I don't see anything really pushing the g303se off of its spot at the top. Its just too perfect for me. My hands are 18 * 9-9.5 cm. Maybe someday I'll remember to mention my hand size in a video.
I bough this mmouse and it's a totaly crap sensor jitters
Do you like it more over the G303 SE?
No, the g303se is still my perfect mouse so I don't really see it ever getting pushed off of my number one spot, but it is a super unique design so I always have a secondary spot open for a more traditional design which is where the bolt could potentially sit.
@@KraftyCraftKraf the g303 is my fav shape as well. I saw the superglide review, what's the best pad combo to those glass feet, a Saturn, Jupiter, Venus(otsu, which I'm using now with stock feet)?
I play apex cod and halo, for context.
Thanks for answering!!!
The Otsu is already really solid for glass feet so you should be fine just sticking with your current pad. I do think that the Venus does similar to an Otsu but a little better for glass feet because of the rougher texture and less floaty feeling of the pad. Overall, my favorite pad for glass feet is the WuGi2. It's a heavily synthetic surface which always creates a great texture for glass and it's naturally a surface with low resistance on small motions and some dynamic friction for stopping power so it amplifies what glass feet already do well. The Saturn is also a good shout if you want more friction and control.
@@KraftyCraftKraf great stuff! Thanks
@@KraftyCraftKraf wugi 2 review? Video suggestion. Those pads are a work of art
I love the coating on the white version. Super chalky and dry.
Max your audio output man
first
this mice was a big shame for fnatic. huge QC problems, rly bad support in terms of click problems and payed reviews with pre selected mice. for me by far biggest disappointment of 2022.