My green ringer is the fun pedal on my board ...it's outerspace and fuzz/ octave like, depends on volume and pickup selection....I really enjoyed these funky,sci-fi sounds. Thanks Andy...
Tips for using a ring modulator, based on experience: 1) No matter what brand of pedal, the sum and difference are arrived at arithmetically. As such the sum and difference are *closer* to the pitch of the played note the higher up the fretboard you go. That's how it can sound like Andy has more or less turned the effect off when he plays the high notes, and turned it back on when he bends a low note. 2) The more you want your playing to sound "pitched", and close to the melody/riff you have in mind, the lower the modulating frequency needs to be, so that the sum and difference aren't very far from any of the notes. 3) RMs don't provide the sum and difference of the notes on the sheet music. They provide the sum and difference with ALL frequency content you feed them. The earliest RMs generally used pure sine waves for both carrier and modulator, yielding a nice mellow "rubber band" sound. Guitars provide far more harmonic content than that, and that harmonic content also changes from the point of pick attack onward. A well-designed RM will likely trim the high end off to more closely approximate a sine wave, but the player needs to help it along by doing most of the same things one would do to make an octave-up fuzz or octave divider behave better: rolling the guitar tone back, using the neck pickup, and picking above the 5th fret. 4) All these "rules" are for analog ring modulators. Once you move into digital units that can track note fundamental and adjust accordingly, little of this might apply. For my money, I think Wayne Krantz is one of the best users of a ring modulator for guitar out there today. Added tip: One of the things Jeff Beck would do is pick a false harmonic on the 3rd or 4th fret of the low E. For reasons I don't fully understand yet, it produces a very RM-like sound.
IF it should be the case that you'd love to have a ring modulator but can't spare the cash for one these days, pretty much ANY modulation pedal - phaser, tremolo, chorus, flanger - can be easily modded to produce something VERY close to a RM. All of those pedals use sub-audio modulation (i.e.,
Everything Red Panda makes sounds great, but then, Source Audio are more affordable and often underappreciated. SA might not be analog, and have special vintage chips or whatever, but they were designed with a lot of care and knowledge; their Spring Reverb is the best thing going outside of the real thing. Rarely my go to, I have to acknowledge that hands on, the DOD Gonkulator is a solid RM; some designs seem much better in theory than they proove to be in practice.
Got a WARB recently, you can get lost for hours experimenting different sounds. Nice video Andy demoing ring mods. WA make some great pedals, just got the warm bender and centavo, worth checking out. I love the classics.
I'm pretty sure I literally commented that 2024 was going to be the year of the ring mod on one of the Emily Hopkins videos. I may have said envelope filter... but either way just a matter of time for underutilized sounds. Joey landreth was doing some awesome gentle ring mod sounds on a recent-ish that pedal show episode
I collect ring mods, some are sick some are beautiful they are the circus freaks of the audio world. If you like that sound then gamelan music might be your thing.
Someone please explain the red panda radius phase shifting sound that was going on? That was a lush phase sound, I can see "shift" on the mode control and understand phase shifters traditional design, but is this red panda thing just doing that or borrowing from the ring mod circuitry and putting a new spin on the sound? Everything but the phaser was expected but that was extra rad
That's frequency shifting in the low frequency range. The ring mod/freq shift knob controls the level of the upper and lower sideband frequencies and adjusts the algorithm so you can go between ring mod, frequency shifting, and frequency shifting with feedback. It puts a new spin on both effects. Here Andy is using frequency shifting up with just a hint of the lower sideband, and has an envelope-triggered ramp on the carrier to make it more dynamic.
Kind of surprised at the reasonable price. I know the Moog originals were not cheap, and I guess I had assumed Warm Audio prices were on the higher end as well.
Confirmed: ring modulators are useless unless you want to play out of tune church bells with your guitar or do sound design for a B movie. The only time this was useable/musical in any way was when Andy got a simple tremolo (volume) effect out of it. Expensive pedalboard decoration.
@@dtrmnts Did your feelings get hurt because I destroyed ring modulators so you had to go with an ad hominem attack instead of just countering my argument with your thoughts on why they are good? I'll extend an olive branch: they're also useful paper weights!
@@CAGDESIGNDEVELOPMENTseems like you are the one who got their feelings hurt. Although I find ring modulators difficult to make great sounds with, I do find that particularly talented guitarists who are creative do some amazing things with them. They're definitely not for your run of the mill Guitarist. Maybe that's why you got so triggered. I'm not bothered by my mediocrity, you seem to have a problem with your mediocrity. It's adorable that you think you "destroyed ring mods." 😂😂
Dear god, ring modulators have to be the worst. Whenever someone has one I wonder "why do you hate yourself?" The tone is gawdawful and out of tune so that you have to relearn to how play the instrument for it to sound decent. Pisses me off they waste the space on a combo pedal having them instead of something truly useful. Why anyone would buy a pedal specifically designed to sound like a detuned bullet ricochet off a rock in a metal garbage can?
All about composition and using at the right moment. Plenty of genres use dissonance or atonal elements to great results. Even something as simple as a call and response with a ring mod being the last line can add interesting character to a song without overstaying its welcome.
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I’ve never heard a ring mod sound so good.
it's because most pedal channels don't understand ring mod won't sound good with 60's blues noodling
Thank god WA finally brought these pedals back. Lord knows Moog won’t and hopefully the rest of the line comes back as well.
would love the MF delay and clusterflux
@@rickc2102I was able to get half the Moogs so having someone rounding out the set would be nice.
Behringer will release theirs eventually. They do Moog stuff pretty well.
I did not see the Ring Mod revolution coming, but I am here for it!
Normally I've always turned my nose up at ring mods but the Ringerbringer when used with an expression pedal is actually pretty damn cool
I'm thinking an exp pedal with multiple outs for a multiple parameter sweep
My green ringer is the fun pedal on my board ...it's outerspace and fuzz/ octave like, depends on volume and pickup selection....I really enjoyed these funky,sci-fi sounds. Thanks Andy...
Great timing for the demo Andy! I just purchased the RingerBringer yesterday! 🎸😎
Awesome review! The RingerBringer is much more versatile than I expected.
I always hope Andy is as high as I am, when I watch these😂
The always sounds great
Tips for using a ring modulator, based on experience:
1) No matter what brand of pedal, the sum and difference are arrived at arithmetically. As such the sum and difference are *closer* to the pitch of the played note the higher up the fretboard you go. That's how it can sound like Andy has more or less turned the effect off when he plays the high notes, and turned it back on when he bends a low note.
2) The more you want your playing to sound "pitched", and close to the melody/riff you have in mind, the lower the modulating frequency needs to be, so that the sum and difference aren't very far from any of the notes.
3) RMs don't provide the sum and difference of the notes on the sheet music. They provide the sum and difference with ALL frequency content you feed them. The earliest RMs generally used pure sine waves for both carrier and modulator, yielding a nice mellow "rubber band" sound. Guitars provide far more harmonic content than that, and that harmonic content also changes from the point of pick attack onward. A well-designed RM will likely trim the high end off to more closely approximate a sine wave, but the player needs to help it along by doing most of the same things one would do to make an octave-up fuzz or octave divider behave better: rolling the guitar tone back, using the neck pickup, and picking above the 5th fret.
4) All these "rules" are for analog ring modulators. Once you move into digital units that can track note fundamental and adjust accordingly, little of this might apply.
For my money, I think Wayne Krantz is one of the best users of a ring modulator for guitar out there today.
Added tip: One of the things Jeff Beck would do is pick a false harmonic on the 3rd or 4th fret of the low E. For reasons I don't fully understand yet, it produces a very RM-like sound.
IF it should be the case that you'd love to have a ring modulator but can't spare the cash for one these days, pretty much ANY modulation pedal - phaser, tremolo, chorus, flanger - can be easily modded to produce something VERY close to a RM. All of those pedals use sub-audio modulation (i.e.,
Everything Red Panda makes sounds great, but then, Source Audio are more affordable and often underappreciated. SA might not be analog, and have special vintage chips or whatever, but they were designed with a lot of care and knowledge; their Spring Reverb is the best thing going outside of the real thing.
Rarely my go to, I have to acknowledge that hands on, the DOD Gonkulator is a solid RM; some designs seem much better in theory than they proove to be in practice.
Ring mod is always my go to tremolo since you always get the attack of your note.
I absolutely love my ehx ringthing, but the Warm is definitely on the list
Good guitarist and good demo of the pedal
Got a WARB recently, you can get lost for hours experimenting different sounds. Nice video Andy demoing ring mods. WA make some great pedals, just got the warm bender and centavo, worth checking out. I love the classics.
least crazy tmv fan rn: I NEED THE RINGERBRINGER
I'm pretty sure I literally commented that 2024 was going to be the year of the ring mod on one of the Emily Hopkins videos. I may have said envelope filter... but either way just a matter of time for underutilized sounds. Joey landreth was doing some awesome gentle ring mod sounds on a recent-ish that pedal show episode
Can't wait to receive my Radius next week..Tons to explore...
I collect ring mods, some are sick some are beautiful they are the circus freaks of the audio world. If you like that sound then gamelan music might be your thing.
oh shit, now we can Frusciante without selling everything we own
The wahoo from Sonuus is also a cool pedal for that kind of sounds
I ❤ RingMod. I feel bad for people who don't dig them. The broken future.
Someone please explain the red panda radius phase shifting sound that was going on? That was a lush phase sound, I can see "shift" on the mode control and understand phase shifters traditional design, but is this red panda thing just doing that or borrowing from the ring mod circuitry and putting a new spin on the sound?
Everything but the phaser was expected but that was extra rad
That's frequency shifting in the low frequency range. The ring mod/freq shift knob controls the level of the upper and lower sideband frequencies and adjusts the algorithm so you can go between ring mod, frequency shifting, and frequency shifting with feedback. It puts a new spin on both effects. Here Andy is using frequency shifting up with just a hint of the lower sideband, and has an envelope-triggered ramp on the carrier to make it more dynamic.
The fuzz on the ultra wave is sweet tho
Get the DOD Gonkulator you wont regret it..AWESOME!
Kind of surprised at the reasonable price. I know the Moog originals were not cheap, and I guess I had assumed Warm Audio prices were on the higher end as well.
Finally, I can afford to Dalek at home.
And Lee Ranaldo of Sonic Youth!
Sounds like robots being tortured
I prefer 'emotive robots' but yeah kinda like that :)
RingerBehringer
I'm confused... is there a very light ring mod on your voice, or do I hear the interference with the background track?
Such an awfull effect ! ...So I just ordered the Warm Audio one !
Confirmed: ring modulators are useless unless you want to play out of tune church bells with your guitar or do sound design for a B movie. The only time this was useable/musical in any way was when Andy got a simple tremolo (volume) effect out of it. Expensive pedalboard decoration.
Brutal but fair
leave it to the people with creativity and imagination
@@dtrmnts Did your feelings get hurt because I destroyed ring modulators so you had to go with an ad hominem attack instead of just countering my argument with your thoughts on why they are good?
I'll extend an olive branch: they're also useful paper weights!
@@CAGDESIGNDEVELOPMENTseems like you are the one who got their feelings hurt. Although I find ring modulators difficult to make great sounds with, I do find that particularly talented guitarists who are creative do some amazing things with them. They're definitely not for your run of the mill Guitarist. Maybe that's why you got so triggered. I'm not bothered by my mediocrity, you seem to have a problem with your mediocrity. It's adorable that you think you "destroyed ring mods." 😂😂
worst effect ever
the dumbest effect ever.
Dear god, ring modulators have to be the worst. Whenever someone has one I wonder "why do you hate yourself?" The tone is gawdawful and out of tune so that you have to relearn to how play the instrument for it to sound decent. Pisses me off they waste the space on a combo pedal having them instead of something truly useful. Why anyone would buy a pedal specifically designed to sound like a detuned bullet ricochet off a rock in a metal garbage can?
All about composition and using at the right moment. Plenty of genres use dissonance or atonal elements to great results. Even something as simple as a call and response with a ring mod being the last line can add interesting character to a song without overstaying its welcome.
Who hurt you?
gotta have imagination