I can definitely tell that most of Peter's words aren't just Venom, it's him, especially the all I wanted was to save everyone line and the now you think I'M the problem also you can hear in Peter's voice that he's breaking down mentally and fighting back the urge to cry, these are Peter's insecurities and the symbiote was fueling theirr fire like a toxic relationship to keep them together Peter has always tried to help everyone out to the point he puts himself last and Miles is trying to show him that people do care about him and that the symbiote isn't the way to deal with these problems At least that's what I got out of it
The symbiote basically thought it new what he wanted which was power to do things he couldn’t and to stop anyone that it thought he hurt or mess that up. Since basically nobody understood or took into account that it was alive as most of their dailogue it wasn’t directed at the alien it was directed at its host instead which maybe led to venom doing most of the things it did because it was treated in a way that just made it seem like a suit and not an alien life on a foreign planet it didn’t understand. It would have been interesting to see people interact with the symbiote like trying to talk to it like eddie in the venom movies as maybe that is what caused most of its actions, not once did anyone ever say why is the suit doing this or ever questioned its motive even when it was obviously alive even with Harry he treated it as a living suit and not like an actual person until it was too late, even when it talked through harry and Peter saying “we” they still focused on the host instead of the cause for the actions. So in short I wonder how things would have went if it was interacted with like venom from the movie it might if even ended up like that venom in the end as it’s understanding of human nature was through misinterpretation and good intentions for the host and not anything of malice
It continued with this misunderstanding as it had nothing reasoning with it that what it was doing was wrong even when it was for what it thought was for the hood of the host
"You think I'm the problem" was one of most coldest lines ever delivered in this entire franchise. The soundtrack to accompany it has made this one of the most memorable parts of the game.
It was always my belief that the symbiote just made you say what you were thinking deep, deep down. You could see it with MJ and Scream. At the end of the day, the symbiote is an allegory for drug use. " It makes me better", " It feels good ", the fact in some stories, Peter gets the symbiote at his lowest point in his life. It was an eye opener when I grew up and realized this.
@@MyNameisGonyeah it makes you say the things you feel deep down and gives you an inflated sense of self worth. I have a theory that why Peter and MJ were saying cruel things yo eachother when possessed was due to the symbiotes trying to scare off people who they think want to separate them kinda like how in order to feed an addiction you kinda unknowingly force people away from you.
Miles is a really a true friend. He’s stuck by Peter, even when he was at his lowest, he never left Peter’s side. Just goes to show how empathetic and caring Miles is.
I love the idea of Spider-Man saving Spider-Man from the black suit. Like Miles represents all the best parts of Spider-Man and literally fights all the worst parts of Peter to show him the light.
I damn near shed a tear to this fight bro. The emotions, gameplay, music, and struggle. this was just beautiful bro. really hits home with the message to never give up on the things you love. Nor give up on yourself.
It was honestly hard seeing Peter like this, the anger, bitterness, jealousy, all of it was coming out and this is litterally one of my heroes growing up. Dude is hurting so much and we gotta fight him while he's hurting, this game really goes hard when it comes to the chatacters
The reasons Miles won: 1. Peter not in his right state of mind 2: Miles took advantage of Venoms weakness to sound. 3. Miles electricity kept Venom/Pete at a distance 4. Miles has the same speed and reaction time as Peter 5. Peter used rage and emotions to fight which is unlike him in many of his fights
@@thunderstormstudios7104bruh the venom suit is litrally and advantage if peter was in his regular spider suit miles would have won easy he’s way better at dodging
@@thunderstormstudios7104 ok? my point was in normal suits miles would have won because he dodges way better than peter does you can clearly see that throughout missions in the game miles is a lot more edgy with dodging and skill
It's very cool and interesting, but doesn't it just repeat Peter's arc from the first game? Where he realises that even though people don't have his powers that doesn't mean they can't help him. Because this is how he truly feels, the Symbiote is pretty much giving him an outlet for that. So despite going through that arc in the first game, he still believes HE'S the hero? Good game, though.
@@dingledoodles2615 the loss of aunt may made peter be like this, he never came to terms with it. The symbiote played on all his fears and insecurities
"Now the city thinks I'm the problem! *YOU think I'm the problem.* But I'm not anymore! *I'm the solution"* this hits hard because it's an insecurity Peter already had, and now Venom is amplifying because Venom is determined to keep Peter. The fact Peter says "Anymore" means he'd already spent a long time wandering if maybe he *is* the problem, and Venom exploits that fear but then comforts him saying he can make him better
Tbf there was tough competition. Spider Man was competing against the likes of Resident Evil 4 and Tears of the Kingdom. There was even more competition with the VA performances. Yuri was up against Cameron Monaghan, Ben Starr, Neil Newbon and even Idris freaking Elba. I think that was one of the rare times where I think everyone deserved the award.
6:50 Miles telling Peter he has to save himself and Peter saying he can’t really hit me. Because Peter knows the symbiotie is corrupting him but he truly thinks he can’t be saved anymore until he starts listening to Miles
It's unfortunate how everyone is arguing over the dumbest thing in this fight. It's NOT about who is the better or stronger spiderman here. These two both go on a journey and come together to be greater. (Just like the slogan) Stop trying to compare them, that's not what the story's about.
To me they can have there opinions but it's the moment they start trash talking people who like Peter better that triggers me how can they be so childish Peter was my fav hero for a long time.
I'm glad some see the actual point of this fight. It was never about who is the strongest spider-man, miles is trying to save his friend , mentor, and brother.
Exactly I almost fell for it myself, but luckily I saw enough comments that showed me what's the true purpose of the fight. In my opinion peter still takes it strength wise but that doesn't even matter at this scenario. Here miles was fighting to save peter, not defeating him. It's sad how the fandom turned an emotional battle to another power scaling debate😞
Sad people don’t understand why miles win, it’s because he need to, if he lose the whole city and peter friends will all screw up, after he lost his father and thin, he cannot let anyone gone again , that’s why he win
I love the fact that it wasn’t just venom talking it was peters insecurities coming out and venom was taking his insecurities and using it as a motivator for a corrupted Peter to work with venom you can hear it in some of his lines “all I wanted was to save everyone MJ may. Now the city thinks that I’M the problem, (venom takes his real thoughts)- you think I’m(venom) the problem” or “miles- all I want is to save you Peter- IM The hero here I don’t get SAVED””I get let this go I’m finally everything everyone needs me to be” also I like how instead of using venom like possession it’s more like a addiction like”miles- I know your hurting Pete but you gotta fight peter- I know I know but but-(venom overwhelms his will)No NOOOOOOOO” or “miles-you gotta be stronger then it. You gotta save yourself this time peter-(struggling)I.. CANT miles- you will” just shows that just like addiction you can’t always fight on your own as Peter only managed to break out of venom was with miles support Also has for when petter lost control completely I feel like it was once the tentacles came out that it was just venom and without miles he would have killed kraven and he wouldn’t ever be able to get the mental strength as he would have just killed someone and it would tear him apart
“This time, you have to save yourself.” “I…. Can’t…” Peter is always saving people and helping others, but he can’t save himself. That’s probably the saddest part with this scene, Peter’s depressed, he feels worthless as Spider-Man, that’s why he bonds with venom so well
I just beat this mission this afternoon, this fight and the one before it was no joke! In spectacular difficulty, i got my ass kicked. Yuri Lowenthal should win best performance at the Game Awards, he went absolutely all out voice-acting Symbiote Peter. Just gives me chills.
That moment where Peter was talking about how he only wanted to save everyone genuinely sounded like he was in a state of emotional anguish mixed with anger of his own perceived weakness. Yuri’s voice acting here and Peter’s fight with Scream is just phenomenal, the man didnt hold back with this game
idk why people are confused by miles "beating" peter, peter was exhausted and practically mindless thanks to the symbiote while miles kept hitting the symbiote with its main weakness (sound) and a lesser weakness (electricity) throughout the entire fight that's like saying someone shouldn't beat superman after stabbing him with a kryptonite dagger and then blasting him with magic (edit) my edit didnt save for some reason but by "beating" I mean getting through to him and helping him rip the suit off. Bro didn't actually knock Pete down for the count in the slightest, and Peter was running around just fine the moment the suit was off of him
It’d be more equivalent to Nightwing or Red Hood beating Batman. And would you look at that. Batman beat Jason in AK even though he was on a mental decline because of Joker slowly corrupting his mind as well as going through the physical gauntlet that is the game’s story.
@@howdoichangemyusername9802 Bruce doesn't have a kryptonite or anything similar though, Miles was repeatedly hitting Peter with THE symbiote suit's kryptonite, constantly, a weakness which literally immobilized him and sent him into shock from the pain that'd be like saying bruce could still beat jason in a fight if jason successfully injected him with nerve toxin beforehand and kept electrocuting him 100% though if miles didnt have the bell and peter wasnt holding back he would have gotten whalloped
If peter beat miles people would be like yeah that makes sense more experience+black suit yep ok sure. But when miles beat Pete they gotta think of everything in the world to justify his loss. Pete got beat and regardless of if he had it or not he woulda lost peter couldn't even beat venom with anti venom. Then venom grew wings and started throwing laser at miles along with huge chunks of rocks + hes suped up off the space rock + he has Everything his original moveset had. Yeah Pete was just getting Bodied. Also exhaustion my ass he woke up from a nap and said "that was the best sleep I've ever had" after tearing those hunters up. Miles just got that raw power, Pete couldn't compete
People are missing the entire point of this fight. Its not Miles vs. Peter, its Miles and Peter vs. Venom, a severely nerfed Venom because Peter is fighting the suit, even if he doesnt show it constantly. In the first intermission of the fight you can see Peter is trying to resist but can't fully. Miles only beats this version of Peter because he's not fully bonded with Venom and the bell. Without the bell, that suit doesnt come off and Miles may be screwed because the longer Peter has the suit the more bonded they become. And to further the point, Miles is meant to end up stronger tham Peter. Thats the entire point of a Student-Mentor relationship, the Student should surpass the mentor. If not, the mentor has failed. Anti-Venom Peter is his peak, he has all the benefits of a perfect bond with Venom with none of the drawbacks, even sound. That Peter is leagues beyond Miles BUT Miles will surpass that because thats the entire point of their relationship. Also, yes Miles beat the perfect Venom but that was Venom bonded to a regular human, not a Spider-Man. Venom with a Spider-Man base would be far far stronger than the Harry-Venom was. But if you need ANY MORE proof that Miles isn't stronger than Peter right now, the suit never tried to leave Peter for Miles like it did for Harry to Peter. Yes, it returned to Harry but only after Peter rejected it and it got information to mimic from him. But it never tried to jump to Miles because it didnt see him as a superior host, like it did for Peter.
@@coreyh9175 you gotta be stupid if you couldn't read it and see what I was saying, cause nowhere in there am I upset Miles won. People are just annoying because of how they're interpreting what's so fucking obvious.
I felt a lot of emotions of the line of " I was just trying to save everyone, MJ, May, the city thinks I'm the problem, You think I'm the problem?! I'm the solution!" Because I deal with this too when it comes to trying to be there and save everyone. Feeling like you aren't there when they need you and you won't dare to comfort them is one of the worst things ever. He feels so alone and abandoned He feels so alone and abandoned That he uses the symbiote to just protect people and feel good about himself and feel like the hero but the symbiote is consuming him and making him more depressed and angry and sad. I can tell that he was trying to hold back his tears and just was mentally and emotionally breaking down of anger, sadness, regret, guilt and shame, and with the symbiote it doesn't help at all. And I love how miles is here to help him. He isn't trying to steal the spotlight and try to become a better hero than he is And at the end I wouldn't say that miles won This wasn't a fight to see who can defeat the other this was a fight between a Peter who needs to get the symbiote off him and he even stopped ringing the bell knowing that Peter is more stronger than he thanks and he was able to remove off the symbiote, Showing that he's not alone and He doesn't need symbiote to make him feel like hes strong and hes a hero and feel confident and maybe even self-centered at moments. It's about being here and doing the right thing and being good. Spider-Man it's just a superhero title. But the person behind the mask is really the person with the emotions and the person has feelings too. And for Peter that's no exception. And miles says it best he thought that the suit and the powers would save everyone but it doesn't work like that at all. Myles wants Peter to know that a hero isn't invincible when it comes to emotions that they're here to talk and to just be there. To not feel like you're just a big screw up. To actually feel human instead of a superhero. And I really do like the symbiote to represent a drug That Peter is using to make him feel good to make him feel good to make him feel good to make him feel stronger but when that drug Changes his mind and emotions and changes the way he acts and thinks and feels he becomes more Violent and more attached to the suit since he like he said he can be everyone's favorites and best Spider-Man so you can protect everyone at the cost of himself and his relationship with others. And I want you to know if you're reading this that if you're going through something like Peter there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You got this you can break through This addiction of things like drugs or alcohol and know that you're way more nicer and more kinder than you think. This is a great game if not one of the best games of this year and I believe in all of you. I want you to know that you're not alone and that YOU'RE A WORK OF ART 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩!!!!!!!
I have an entire group of friends that are all suffering from mental problems. Anxiety, bipolar disorder, depression etc, and it’s caused a rift among the group. I usually end up being the one that they all vent to whenever they have an issue. At first I was completely OK with it, but now I feel like I’m constantly trying to hold the group together. To the point where I’m basically unable to talk about my own problems with them, because I’m worried it will cause more damage. It definitely sucks.
@@TheLsp2011 That feeling comes the feeling of fear. Fear that you will probably break up your friends permanently. But I want you to know that you can get help. Things can get better when talk to the right people Like a therapist or someone you can really trust to vent. Heck maybe even me. I want you to know that we will get through this together with your friends and that you will be better. Please let me help you.
I enjoyed this game tremendously. Just had fun with this fight and understanding it from a story point. But sadly, as I should expect by now, every fanbase is full of cringy, edgy morons who have to ruin everything by being negative, hateful monsters with extreme biases. Like everything sets motherfuckers off. Only a truly feeble brained individual thinks that this fight was to demonstrate who is stronger. It was about trying to pull Peter out of his darkness. The whole game is a parallel journey out of the darkness for the spidermen, really for everybody playing a larger role. To show Peter that even he needs saving sometimes, even as Spiderman. Something he didn't believe would matter because he was supposed to save people, not the other way around. Miles had the same revelation, believing that he was to protect his people, not the other way around, but was shown even his friends and family can save him without being a Spiderman. But no, lets dumb it down to caveman thought. 'Miles is beter than Peter, he was tired and still beat him' or 'No, Peter was nerfed and Miles won because of plot'. Miles returned the support. That Peter has given him since Jefferson died and pulled him quite literally out of the darkness. If you have an attention span greater than that of a squirrel and read this far, thank you, and if this applies to you... get your shit together and stop being a negative loudmouth and learn to discuss with an open mind. Have your opinions, but dont be a closed-minded fool. A discussion amongst other fans could give you some knowledge. Fact is, Miles or Peter being the better Spiderman or stronger Spiderman will be dependent on whos writing the story, simple as that. This infighting against each other is pointlessly ignorant.
(slow 👏🏼 👏🏼👏🏼) You sir earn my respect for being a rational thinker AND a non-biased fan. Might I say you actually saved me from almost becoming one of those "cavemen"😂 both spidermen needed a pep up talk to overcome their anger and darkness (maybe Pete needed a bit more since he's in an emotionally unstable place in the game) but they still went through the same arc. And as for the fight- it can't be viewed as a definitive scenario of who is stronger because that wasn't his purpose (plus how miles needed to use both bell and electricity to even the odds)
Yeah but Peter > Miles though 💀 (jk jk I'm not even that much into spiderman lmao, don't really care about who's better than who). I agree though you make some fundamental points in your comment. Fandoms of any kind gets into wars like this. It's sad how emotionally attached people are to fiction and decide to die on a hill for said fiction...
"The one who would win... Is the one the writer wants to win!! Now stop asking these boneheaded questions" paraphrasing from Stan Lee. So stop being butthurt either way 😂
I wish they would‘ve kept the Insomniac Spider-Man Suit with the Venom Bottle on his back. I really enjoyed that „design“ because the colorblocking between the red-blue from Pete’s suit and the black green from that oscorp bottle with venom in it just looks so good.
I know everyone talks about the suit, but can we talk about Miles in this scenario? In the space of 24 hours, he: Beat the crap out of dozens of hunters before being knocked out by a dirty trick Went toe to toe with Mr Negative, both physically and mentally, and won Fought against Kraven and lived to tell the tale AND Went blow for blow with an almost Venomized Peter, bringing him back from the brink. And yet the guy was ready for more. He never gave up, even at the absolute worst. Screw anyone that thinks Miles isn’t worthy of the Spider-Man name. His dad would be proud.
I know the symbiote is bad but I kind of wish we got a game where Peter learned to actually control it instead of it making him go crazy every time. He has some crazy power when he has it.
that’s pretty much what the anti-venom suit is, to be fair, he just needed martin li’s help. he basically says “it’s just as strong, but the influence is gone”.
Take notes, Marvel Studios. This is what needs to happen in the Tom Holland Spider-Man films when he bonds with the Venom symbiote. What I would love to see is after all the devastating destruction Symbiote Suit Spider-Man unleashes on Damage Control and the Daily Bugle, he would save Agent Cleary and Jameson for last as he beats both of them to a bloody pulp, only until the last second realizes what he’s doing is wrong and he leaves them both bruised, broken, and bleeding as he decides to remove the symbiote suit.
Can you all calm tf down over Miles winning this fight? Both Spider-Men are equal, which is was Insomiac’s whole point with Spider-Man Miles Morales and this game. Both have powers, abilities, and gadgets that the other doesn’t. Not to mention, Peter was fighting both the Symbiote and Miles. It was hardly an even fight to begin with so stop acting like Peter got his ass clapped
Yuri Lowenthal’s voice acting for the symbiote Peter is a thing of beauty, he sounds like a tormented soul with a demon whispering terrible lies in his ear and causing him to become angry and enraged, which is helped by the fact that you actually get to hear the symbiote dialogue, he sounds angry but he also sounds like he’s in pain, like he’s truly struggling to hold onto who he is and not become the monster that the symbiote is trying to make him become
A missed opportunity could've been, Peter's name could've had a question mark in it or change between "Peter" and "???". As if Miles is struggling to know who he is fighting or who is listening. And a cool game mechanic could've been, the symbiote regenerates Peter every few seconds.
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As awesome as this fight was, there should’ve been a moment where Peter got the upper hand and was about to kill Miles, but Peter starts fighting back against the suit long enough for Miles to break free
Perhaps between the first cutscene where Peter has Miles on the ground clearly completely addicted at that moment. Peter perhaps pulls a move Venom pulled on him in the final battle where he webs all of Miles’s limbs and is going to kill him but he looks at Miles and hesitates long enough for Miles to do a Venom blast. Then we lead into the midway point cutscene where Miles pins Peter to the ground and the fight plays out the same.
I just realized Peter was using the same technique called the anti-venom bomb against Miles in 3:42 , but colored black (because he’s obviously using the original symbiote). I really like the purple aura on it tbh, since it gives me Web of Shadows and Ultimate Spider-Man vibes, and for me it’s a representation of Peter slowly spiraling into the alien’s control further and further, strengthening his pain and desire for using the gooey parasite more frequently, while also making him look/feel more crazier and wanting to hurt people with how he uses it. I really wish that the purple light on it was present while using it with the black versions of the suit, to give it back its stronger and more savage feel.
I dont think Miles is outright stronger than Peter more than Peter is so worn out from being spiderman and the symbiote wearing down his mental strength, Miles is just young and fresh
Miles literally got done fighting through hordes of Hunters and had a gladiator-style fight. And the symbiote constantly recovers Peter so that he's healed and not fatigued. So there's really no excuse here. Miles won.
@@RJ-rp8yd miles was just well rested in a cell, Peter is trying to fight through a symbiote hive mind that no one else has been able to get out of themselves, and the whole point of the game is showing miles is becoming a better spider man than pete can be right now
@@dre.co4721 "Well rested." LMFAO He was clearly hurt. And Peter wasn't fighting through anything until Miles put some sense into him. And even before that, we see Miles overpowering Peter and the symbiote.
“well rested in a cell” no bro he was in a cell after recovering from getting the shit kicked out of him by kraven and his goons after helping li escape. it’s basically canon that miles is the physically superior spider-man while peter is the more technologically gifted and experienced. in time, this version of miles will eventually catch up to peter on both those fronts as well.
How cool would it be if after each phase it switched prospectives and had eight phases for the entire fight. I mean it would be really annoying to get through them all but it would be much cooler.
I feel like venom in the game is trying to do right but is going about it in the wrong way. He says “you think I’m the problem” which makes me think that he’s blaming them for thinking he’s evil when he’s trying to do right by fighting more aggressively and even wanting to kill bad guys (like wraith). In the finale he also says something along the lines of “you threw us away” which could mean he’s mad Peter got rid of him. He also says we are your friends and he’s “healing the world” could genuinely be him trying to make everyone powerful and happy by becoming symbiotes. These are my thoughts tho
Anyone else feel like when Pete said "I know, I know....but" and then he screamed NOOO you saw the war he was having with venom in there Pete was starting to snap out of it and Venom didn't like the fact he was about to lose his host that way
I would kill to have an alternate timeline where you play as Symbiote Peter, and you whoop Miles' arse and say the Prowler intervenes, or Peter Loses control and goes full Venom mode, Please put that in DLC.
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miles morales vs venomized spider man
1:01 venomized spiderman boss fight for save
I’m sorry, but Kraven saying “harder” while being choked out by tentacles is the funniest shit to me
Bro wtf 😂😂😂
@@SupremeB_07😭😭😭😭
You should see typical gamers reaction 😂
I would've had to stop for a while if Kraven said Daddy.
Thought it was jus me broo that killed me.he shoulda called him daddy😂😂😂
4:32- sorry but Miles calling out Peter’s symbiote BS with “You don’t even answer my calls anymore” might be one of the game’s funniest lines.
"man you sound like some bitch he didnt call like ooh he lied to me" -Lamar Davis
Lol
"You been ghosting me, bruh! What the hell!
Fr perfect level of humor bc IT’s definitely something I’d say to my big bro if he was having a difficult time
Some of the dumbest writing in a piece of Spider-Man media ever, I agree
I can definitely tell that most of Peter's words aren't just Venom, it's him, especially the all I wanted was to save everyone line and the now you think I'M the problem also you can hear in Peter's voice that he's breaking down mentally and fighting back the urge to cry, these are Peter's insecurities and the symbiote was fueling theirr fire like a toxic relationship to keep them together
Peter has always tried to help everyone out to the point he puts himself last and Miles is trying to show him that people do care about him and that the symbiote isn't the way to deal with these problems
At least that's what I got out of it
Ur right
Definitely. The suit amplifies insecurities too which provoked Peter to say some the things he did
He was still being manipulated by venom, it amplified those feelings
The symbiote basically thought it new what he wanted which was power to do things he couldn’t and to stop anyone that it thought he hurt or mess that up. Since basically nobody understood or took into account that it was alive as most of their dailogue it wasn’t directed at the alien it was directed at its host instead which maybe led to venom doing most of the things it did because it was treated in a way that just made it seem like a suit and not an alien life on a foreign planet it didn’t understand. It would have been interesting to see people interact with the symbiote like trying to talk to it like eddie in the venom movies as maybe that is what caused most of its actions, not once did anyone ever say why is the suit doing this or ever questioned its motive even when it was obviously alive even with Harry he treated it as a living suit and not like an actual person until it was too late, even when it talked through harry and Peter saying “we” they still focused on the host instead of the cause for the actions. So in short I wonder how things would have went if it was interacted with like venom from the movie it might if even ended up like that venom in the end as it’s understanding of human nature was through misinterpretation and good intentions for the host and not anything of malice
It continued with this misunderstanding as it had nothing reasoning with it that what it was doing was wrong even when it was for what it thought was for the hood of the host
The, "YOU think I'M the problem!" in Venoms voice is peak.
And he tops it off with, “I’M the solution..”
"You think I'm the problem" was one of most coldest lines ever delivered in this entire franchise. The soundtrack to accompany it has made this one of the most memorable parts of the game.
I think him saying "why are you doing this, I made you, YOU OWE ME"- was savage lmao
That's facts it was fire
It was always my belief that the symbiote just made you say what you were thinking deep, deep down. You could see it with MJ and Scream. At the end of the day, the symbiote is an allegory for drug use. " It makes me better", " It feels good ", the fact in some stories, Peter gets the symbiote at his lowest point in his life. It was an eye opener when I grew up and realized this.
@@MyNameisGonyeah it makes you say the things you feel deep down and gives you an inflated sense of self worth.
I have a theory that why Peter and MJ were saying cruel things yo eachother when possessed was due to the symbiotes trying to scare off people who they think want to separate them kinda like how in order to feed an addiction you kinda unknowingly force people away from you.
@@MyNameisGonI dont think thats necessarily the case. I think it more so knows how to manipulate.
Miles is a really a true friend. He’s stuck by Peter, even when he was at his lowest, he never left Peter’s side. Just goes to show how empathetic and caring Miles is.
I love the idea of Spider-Man saving Spider-Man from the black suit. Like Miles represents all the best parts of Spider-Man and literally fights all the worst parts of Peter to show him the light.
He showed him the light pretty well.⚡️⚡️
But still miles was burnt himself💀
@@ultrabest8031With that shit ass of a suit at the finale right?
@@Jokester1990-ri3jl That suit and something else 😈
It's miles morales vs venomized spider man
I just finished the game and I’ve just got to applaud Yuri Lowenthal’s VA. The range this guy expresses was the icing on the cake
The Tony Todd voicing Venom was the icing on the cake
Nah nah nah your both wrong. The icing on the cake was definitely Nadji Jeter as Miles. Dude was great.
@@Marvelfanatic3658 I like to think of the entire game as a cake with all three of them as the icing. All three were great.
@@ZonaiHero-ul5nm weirdo
@@Marvelfanatic3658 Yeah I get that a lot. But I just think then voice acting in general in this game was great.
When Miles said,”What about MJ ? You could have killed her!”, Pete got quiet real quickly.
Well he didn't really try to kill her the symbiote was in control
@@488kkutta Fair point
Yeah he was asleep so the symbiote was chasing M.J.
@@angijuan2364 exactly but peter in his voice called out mj so I wonder if Peter did chase her
@@angijuan2364 exactly so vemon also took control of his body and actions and chased her through the tunnel that night
The “you think I’m the problem” gave me chills
Best line i've heard in a while, the song made it cold as hell too
Damn Yuri is a goat voice actor. Bro genuinely sounds like he is in pain
hanamura senpai doing a great job
He's actually very versatile. I still can't believe he's the same VA for Spider Man and Sasuke
I damn near shed a tear to this fight bro. The emotions, gameplay, music, and struggle. this was just beautiful bro. really hits home with the message to never give up on the things you love. Nor give up on yourself.
It was honestly hard seeing Peter like this, the anger, bitterness, jealousy, all of it was coming out and this is litterally one of my heroes growing up. Dude is hurting so much and we gotta fight him while he's hurting, this game really goes hard when it comes to the chatacters
Jealousy?
@@bredandmonke914yes, he was jealous because he thinks miles was a better spider man than him
And because he felt a sense of betrayal from doing all he can to save people especially MJ and May as it was stated
The reasons Miles won:
1. Peter not in his right state of mind
2: Miles took advantage of Venoms weakness to sound.
3. Miles electricity kept Venom/Pete at a distance
4. Miles has the same speed and reaction time as Peter
5. Peter used rage and emotions to fight which is unlike him in many of his fights
Exactly, if Peter was in full control, he would’ve won. Literally, he beat Kraven. Miles couldn’t.
@@thunderstormstudios7104bruh the venom suit is litrally and advantage if peter was in his regular spider suit miles would have won easy he’s way better at dodging
if peter was in his normal suit and not venom miles would easily win that
@@-B-1 In this game, the suit fucked up Peter more than anyone. Even when Harry had it, Peter realized he was getting reckless.
@@thunderstormstudios7104 ok? my point was in normal suits miles would have won because he dodges way better than peter does you can clearly see that throughout missions in the game miles is a lot more edgy with dodging and skill
"I'm the hero"
" I dont get SAVED"
One of the coldest lines I've ever heard
Speaks a lot about Peter as a character. He goes outside being the hero and saving people, but his own life crashes down and barely anyone saved him.
It's very cool and interesting, but doesn't it just repeat Peter's arc from the first game? Where he realises that even though people don't have his powers that doesn't mean they can't help him.
Because this is how he truly feels, the Symbiote is pretty much giving him an outlet for that. So despite going through that arc in the first game, he still believes HE'S the hero?
Good game, though.
@@dingledoodles2615he is tho
@@twisted-t6509 but it goes against his arc from the first game.
@@dingledoodles2615 the loss of aunt may made peter be like this, he never came to terms with it. The symbiote played on all his fears and insecurities
I absolutely love the way the music swells up and spiderman's theme starts shining through when he is ripping the symbiote off
"Now the city thinks I'm the problem! *YOU think I'm the problem.* But I'm not anymore! *I'm the solution"* this hits hard because it's an insecurity Peter already had, and now Venom is amplifying because Venom is determined to keep Peter. The fact Peter says "Anymore" means he'd already spent a long time wandering if maybe he *is* the problem, and Venom exploits that fear but then comforts him saying he can make him better
Absolute crime Yuri didn't win best performance at the Game Awards for this. He did spectacular.
Spider Man lost to an Old Western AND a Vampire Rogue
Tbf there was tough competition. Spider Man was competing against the likes of Resident Evil 4 and Tears of the Kingdom. There was even more competition with the VA performances. Yuri was up against Cameron Monaghan, Ben Starr, Neil Newbon and even Idris freaking Elba. I think that was one of the rare times where I think everyone deserved the award.
The emotion behind this fight gave me chills 🤲🏾
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. 🤞🏽🔥
6:50 Miles telling Peter he has to save himself and Peter saying he can’t really hit me. Because Peter knows the symbiotie is corrupting him but he truly thinks he can’t be saved anymore until he starts listening to Miles
I love this whole fight everything miles says he is speaking from his heart
Miles: This time, you gotta save yourself!
Now you know Peter had to have gotten PTSD after those words. 😢
"Guess you'll just have to save YOURSELF!"
3:05 “All I ever wanted to was to save everyone.” that line hits hard every time
Venom low-key just an instigator that brings out the toxicity a person tries to keep in control
2:39 that head tilt is so creepy and I love it, it had me surprised
Sounds like a fiend making excuses to keep it, it’s great
It's unfortunate how everyone is arguing over the dumbest thing in this fight. It's NOT about who is the better or stronger spiderman here. These two both go on a journey and come together to be greater. (Just like the slogan) Stop trying to compare them, that's not what the story's about.
To me they can have there opinions but it's the moment they start trash talking people who like Peter better that triggers me how can they be so childish Peter was my fav hero for a long time.
Comparison is inevitable with this kind of content and entertainment. A damn shame.
I'm glad some see the actual point of this fight.
It was never about who is the strongest spider-man, miles is trying to save his friend , mentor, and brother.
Insomniac is here writing a mature and emotional story, yet these people are turning it into something childish and dumb.
Exactly
I almost fell for it myself, but luckily I saw enough comments that showed me what's the true purpose of the fight. In my opinion peter still takes it strength wise but that doesn't even matter at this scenario. Here miles was fighting to save peter, not defeating him.
It's sad how the fandom turned an emotional battle to another power scaling debate😞
1:11 You're In The Way Miles!
1:13 Venom: Always In The Way!
Sad people don’t understand why miles win, it’s because he need to, if he lose the whole city and peter friends will all screw up, after he lost his father and thin, he cannot let anyone gone again , that’s why he win
Ok
I love the fact that it wasn’t just venom talking it was peters insecurities coming out and venom was taking his insecurities and using it as a motivator for a corrupted Peter to work with venom you can hear it in some of his lines “all I wanted was to save everyone MJ may. Now the city thinks that I’M the problem, (venom takes his real thoughts)- you think I’m(venom) the problem” or “miles- all I want is to save you Peter- IM The hero here I don’t get SAVED””I get let this go I’m finally everything everyone needs me to be” also I like how instead of using venom like possession it’s more like a addiction like”miles- I know your hurting Pete but you gotta fight peter- I know I know but but-(venom overwhelms his will)No NOOOOOOOO” or “miles-you gotta be stronger then it. You gotta save yourself this time peter-(struggling)I.. CANT miles- you will” just shows that just like addiction you can’t always fight on your own as Peter only managed to break out of venom was with miles support
Also has for when petter lost control completely I feel like it was once the tentacles came out that it was just venom and without miles he would have killed kraven and he wouldn’t ever be able to get the mental strength as he would have just killed someone and it would tear him apart
Kraven be like: Harder pls 🥵
AYO
😭😭😭
Miles definitely showed up like “Ayo, *_PAUSE”_*
This was my EXACT THOUGHT when I first saw this scene
Person needs help:
Spiderman: *Don't worry IM COMING!* 💨💦
The music at 8:06 🔥
So bummed it wasn’t included in the official soundtrack. Hopefully John Paesano releases an extended soundtrack soon.
I knew it it wasn't included while listening to the full album i was "wait where is the one where peter remove the symbiote"
There are so many amazing segments like that one music that plays in the final phase of Kraven vs venom that they didn't include idk why.
@@UromixOn they might include it with the dlc soundtrack. That's what they did with a good amount of the missing tracks in the the first game
Even a hero needs salvation
Every hero does. The salvation of Jesus Christ is the answer to our prayers 🙏✝️
@@slycooper1014 I like to think Jesus personally helped Pete rip the symbiote off
@@TheSchrader_ same too!
@TheSchrader_ I honestly believe the same. Even in a fictional setting Lord Jesus can save everyone.
@@Xxandrew01 yeah haha!
"Hurr durr why did miles beat peter" bro pete is NOT in control
This fight brings out ALL the emotions
“This time, you have to save yourself.”
“I…. Can’t…”
Peter is always saving people and helping others, but he can’t save himself. That’s probably the saddest part with this scene, Peter’s depressed, he feels worthless as Spider-Man, that’s why he bonds with venom so well
I just beat this mission this afternoon, this fight and the one before it was no joke! In spectacular difficulty, i got my ass kicked.
Yuri Lowenthal should win best performance at the Game Awards, he went absolutely all out voice-acting Symbiote Peter. Just gives me chills.
Same here. I also felt like after the symbiote civillians apear in the city, spectacular is basically unplayable.
Yeah I’m in spectacular difficulty too and this game has amazing boss fights
I felt like this boss fight was the easiest in the game (besides sandman at the beginning) and I also played on spectacular
@@xaiverturner6853prolly cause you can get in close but I died 5 times in this fight
@@lil_cali714___I only really died on the Pete vs venom fight guess was jus being too greedy and not dodging enough
That moment where Peter was talking about how he only wanted to save everyone genuinely sounded like he was in a state of emotional anguish mixed with anger of his own perceived weakness. Yuri’s voice acting here and Peter’s fight with Scream is just phenomenal, the man didnt hold back with this game
4:19 i feel like this was a kefla vs ultra instinct goku reference
0:12 you see this what happens when I play undertale too much I think every sentence similar to undertale is a reference
1:10 Always in the way
3:10 You think I'm the problem
3:19 I'm the solution.
idk why people are confused by miles "beating" peter, peter was exhausted and practically mindless thanks to the symbiote while miles kept hitting the symbiote with its main weakness (sound) and a lesser weakness (electricity) throughout the entire fight
that's like saying someone shouldn't beat superman after stabbing him with a kryptonite dagger and then blasting him with magic
(edit) my edit didnt save for some reason but by "beating" I mean getting through to him and helping him rip the suit off. Bro didn't actually knock Pete down for the count in the slightest, and Peter was running around just fine the moment the suit was off of him
Exactly I agree I knew for a fact miles was gonna win before the game came out
It’d be more equivalent to Nightwing or Red Hood beating Batman. And would you look at that. Batman beat Jason in AK even though he was on a mental decline because of Joker slowly corrupting his mind as well as going through the physical gauntlet that is the game’s story.
@@howdoichangemyusername9802 Bruce doesn't have a kryptonite or anything similar though, Miles was repeatedly hitting Peter with THE symbiote suit's kryptonite, constantly, a weakness which literally immobilized him and sent him into shock from the pain
that'd be like saying bruce could still beat jason in a fight if jason successfully injected him with nerve toxin beforehand and kept electrocuting him
100% though if miles didnt have the bell and peter wasnt holding back he would have gotten whalloped
If peter beat miles people would be like yeah that makes sense more experience+black suit yep ok sure. But when miles beat Pete they gotta think of everything in the world to justify his loss. Pete got beat and regardless of if he had it or not he woulda lost peter couldn't even beat venom with anti venom. Then venom grew wings and started throwing laser at miles along with huge chunks of rocks + hes suped up off the space rock + he has Everything his original moveset had. Yeah Pete was just getting Bodied. Also exhaustion my ass he woke up from a nap and said "that was the best sleep I've ever had" after tearing those hunters up. Miles just got that raw power, Pete couldn't compete
@@jordanvr1716get Miles meat out yo mouth
People are missing the entire point of this fight.
Its not Miles vs. Peter, its Miles and Peter vs. Venom, a severely nerfed Venom because Peter is fighting the suit, even if he doesnt show it constantly. In the first intermission of the fight you can see Peter is trying to resist but can't fully.
Miles only beats this version of Peter because he's not fully bonded with Venom and the bell. Without the bell, that suit doesnt come off and Miles may be screwed because the longer Peter has the suit the more bonded they become.
And to further the point, Miles is meant to end up stronger tham Peter. Thats the entire point of a Student-Mentor relationship, the Student should surpass the mentor. If not, the mentor has failed.
Anti-Venom Peter is his peak, he has all the benefits of a perfect bond with Venom with none of the drawbacks, even sound. That Peter is leagues beyond Miles BUT Miles will surpass that because thats the entire point of their relationship.
Also, yes Miles beat the perfect Venom but that was Venom bonded to a regular human, not a Spider-Man. Venom with a Spider-Man base would be far far stronger than the Harry-Venom was. But if you need ANY MORE proof that Miles isn't stronger than Peter right now, the suit never tried to leave Peter for Miles like it did for Harry to Peter. Yes, it returned to Harry but only after Peter rejected it and it got information to mimic from him. But it never tried to jump to Miles because it didnt see him as a superior host, like it did for Peter.
Does it hurt you that Miles won? That’s a lot of writing. LOL
@@coreyh9175 you gotta be stupid if you couldn't read it and see what I was saying, cause nowhere in there am I upset Miles won. People are just annoying because of how they're interpreting what's so fucking obvious.
Right XD@@coreyh9175
@coreyh9175 well Miles could lose but....then you can't advance in the game
@coreyh9175 is what no reading comprehension does to a mfer-
2:58 Dialogue gave me Goosebumps
I felt a lot of emotions of the line of " I was just trying to save everyone, MJ, May, the city thinks I'm the problem, You think I'm the problem?! I'm the solution!" Because I deal with this too when it comes to trying to be there and save everyone. Feeling like you aren't there when they need you and you won't dare to comfort them is one of the worst things ever. He feels so alone and abandoned He feels so alone and abandoned That he uses the symbiote to just protect people and feel good about himself and feel like the hero but the symbiote is consuming him and making him more depressed and angry and sad. I can tell that he was trying to hold back his tears and just was mentally and emotionally breaking down of anger, sadness, regret, guilt and shame, and with the symbiote it doesn't help at all. And I love how miles is here to help him. He isn't trying to steal the spotlight and try to become a better hero than he is And at the end I wouldn't say that miles won This wasn't a fight to see who can defeat the other this was a fight between a Peter who needs to get the symbiote off him and he even stopped ringing the bell knowing that Peter is more stronger than he thanks and he was able to remove off the symbiote, Showing that he's not alone and He doesn't need symbiote to make him feel like hes strong and hes a hero and feel confident and maybe even self-centered at moments. It's about being here and doing the right thing and being good. Spider-Man it's just a superhero title. But the person behind the mask is really the person with the emotions and the person has feelings too. And for Peter that's no exception. And miles says it best he thought that the suit and the powers would save everyone but it doesn't work like that at all. Myles wants Peter to know that a hero isn't invincible when it comes to emotions that they're here to talk and to just be there. To not feel like you're just a big screw up. To actually feel human instead of a superhero. And I really do like the symbiote to represent a drug That Peter is using to make him feel good to make him feel good to make him feel good to make him feel stronger but when that drug Changes his mind and emotions and changes the way he acts and thinks and feels he becomes more Violent and more attached to the suit since he like he said he can be everyone's favorites and best Spider-Man so you can protect everyone at the cost of himself and his relationship with others. And I want you to know if you're reading this that if you're going through something like Peter there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You got this you can break through This addiction of things like drugs or alcohol and know that you're way more nicer and more kinder than you think. This is a great game if not one of the best games of this year and I believe in all of you. I want you to know that you're not alone and that YOU'RE A WORK OF ART 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩!!!!!!!
❤
I have an entire group of friends that are all suffering from mental problems. Anxiety, bipolar disorder, depression etc, and it’s caused a rift among the group. I usually end up being the one that they all vent to whenever they have an issue. At first I was completely OK with it, but now I feel like I’m constantly trying to hold the group together. To the point where I’m basically unable to talk about my own problems with them, because I’m worried it will cause more damage. It definitely sucks.
@@TheLsp2011 That feeling comes the feeling of fear. Fear that you will probably break up your friends permanently. But I want you to know that you can get help. Things can get better when talk to the right people Like a therapist or someone you can really trust to vent. Heck maybe even me. I want you to know that we will get through this together with your friends and that you will be better. Please let me help you.
Dude stop writing essay in comments and live a life man
@@kedarmhatre7931 OK sorry, it's just that interesting
I enjoyed this game tremendously. Just had fun with this fight and understanding it from a story point. But sadly, as I should expect by now, every fanbase is full of cringy, edgy morons who have to ruin everything by being negative, hateful monsters with extreme biases. Like everything sets motherfuckers off. Only a truly feeble brained individual thinks that this fight was to demonstrate who is stronger. It was about trying to pull Peter out of his darkness. The whole game is a parallel journey out of the darkness for the spidermen, really for everybody playing a larger role. To show Peter that even he needs saving sometimes, even as Spiderman. Something he didn't believe would matter because he was supposed to save people, not the other way around. Miles had the same revelation, believing that he was to protect his people, not the other way around, but was shown even his friends and family can save him without being a Spiderman. But no, lets dumb it down to caveman thought. 'Miles is beter than Peter, he was tired and still beat him' or 'No, Peter was nerfed and Miles won because of plot'. Miles returned the support. That Peter has given him since Jefferson died and pulled him quite literally out of the darkness. If you have an attention span greater than that of a squirrel and read this far, thank you, and if this applies to you... get your shit together and stop being a negative loudmouth and learn to discuss with an open mind. Have your opinions, but dont be a closed-minded fool. A discussion amongst other fans could give you some knowledge. Fact is, Miles or Peter being the better Spiderman or stronger Spiderman will be dependent on whos writing the story, simple as that. This infighting against each other is pointlessly ignorant.
(slow 👏🏼 👏🏼👏🏼)
You sir earn my respect for being a rational thinker AND a non-biased fan. Might I say you actually saved me from almost becoming one of those "cavemen"😂 both spidermen needed a pep up talk to overcome their anger and darkness (maybe Pete needed a bit more since he's in an emotionally unstable place in the game) but they still went through the same arc.
And as for the fight- it can't be viewed as a definitive scenario of who is stronger because that wasn't his purpose (plus how miles needed to use both bell and electricity to even the odds)
As Stan Lee says "The one who would win... Is the one the writer wants to win!! Now stop asking these boneheaded questions!"
Yeah but Peter > Miles though 💀
(jk jk
I'm not even that much into spiderman lmao, don't really care about who's better than who). I agree though you make some fundamental points in your comment. Fandoms of any kind gets into wars like this. It's sad how emotionally attached people are to fiction and decide to die on a hill for said fiction...
@@NinjaXFiles And that's just the sad part but for me I'm always Positive I'll always be a Fan of Spider-man both Peter and Miles.
Perfectly said!!!
"Always in the way" Hit in so many ways! Wow! Lol
4:39 miles been watching too much anime.. more specifically, too much my hero academia
I thought the same thing hahah. Same trick bakugo used on deku
Also 4:18 is literally how Goku defeated Kefla
Soundtrack goes fucking hard
"The one who would win... Is the one the writer wants to win!! Now stop asking these boneheaded questions" paraphrasing from Stan Lee. So stop being butthurt either way 😂
Peter vs Miles
Anakin vs Obi Wan
Leon vs Krauser
*The best student vs mentor fights starter pack*
Thank you for the RE4 mention!
Dude, finally someone said it! 😄
Don’t forget optimus vs bee
You versus Bully Maguire because you going up against Bully Maguire the god
I wish they would‘ve kept the Insomniac Spider-Man Suit with the Venom Bottle on his back. I really enjoyed that „design“ because the colorblocking between the red-blue from Pete’s suit and the black green from that oscorp bottle with venom in it just looks so good.
I know everyone talks about the suit, but can we talk about Miles in this scenario? In the space of 24 hours, he:
Beat the crap out of dozens of hunters before being knocked out by a dirty trick
Went toe to toe with Mr Negative, both physically and mentally, and won
Fought against Kraven and lived to tell the tale
AND Went blow for blow with an almost Venomized Peter, bringing him back from the brink.
And yet the guy was ready for more. He never gave up, even at the absolute worst. Screw anyone that thinks Miles isn’t worthy of the Spider-Man name. His dad would be proud.
Miles Morales destroys Peter Parker with facts and logic
Fans: we got to different Spiderman how about a co-op mode?
Developers: that's dumb ur dumb.
I know the symbiote is bad but I kind of wish we got a game where Peter learned to actually control it instead of it making him go crazy every time. He has some crazy power when he has it.
That is this game buddy
Web of Shadows has something like that
@@suave9184 He doesn't learn to control it.
that’s pretty much what the anti-venom suit is, to be fair, he just needed martin li’s help.
he basically says “it’s just as strong, but the influence is gone”.
@@kingcamelot1395 If I recall I think he went crazy from it still but I loved that game.
did anyone else tear up during this fight?
I did
Absolutely
I almost did
No
@@saltydeez7498you have no soul
Take notes, Marvel Studios. This is what needs to happen in the Tom Holland Spider-Man films when he bonds with the Venom symbiote. What I would love to see is after all the devastating destruction Symbiote Suit Spider-Man unleashes on Damage Control and the Daily Bugle, he would save Agent Cleary and Jameson for last as he beats both of them to a bloody pulp, only until the last second realizes what he’s doing is wrong and he leaves them both bruised, broken, and bleeding as he decides to remove the symbiote suit.
Dumb asf he needs somebody to snap him out of it
If Tom Holland Spider-Man removed the symbiote suit, then who will be Venom?
Can you all calm tf down over Miles winning this fight? Both Spider-Men are equal, which is was Insomiac’s whole point with Spider-Man Miles Morales and this game. Both have powers, abilities, and gadgets that the other doesn’t. Not to mention, Peter was fighting both the Symbiote and Miles. It was hardly an even fight to begin with so stop acting like Peter got his ass clapped
Miles fan boys are out in force.
Me personally, I think Spider-Man 2 was robbed at the Game Awards. Yuri deserved a Best Performance award, and this video proves it.
That or best Action Adventure…
Like seriously… Zelda’s combat was garbage
And I believe the game didn’t even get nominated for its music.
"I made you!"
Technically, Norman Osborn made him wheh he housed those spiders in his lab.
I love how Venom's voice comes in and out
Yuri Lowenthal’s voice acting for the symbiote Peter is a thing of beauty, he sounds like a tormented soul with a demon whispering terrible lies in his ear and causing him to become angry and enraged, which is helped by the fact that you actually get to hear the symbiote dialogue, he sounds angry but he also sounds like he’s in pain, like he’s truly struggling to hold onto who he is and not become the monster that the symbiote is trying to make him become
This is the fight we’ve all been waiting for
A missed opportunity could've been, Peter's name could've had a question mark in it or change between "Peter" and "???". As if Miles is struggling to know who he is fighting or who is listening. And a cool game mechanic could've been, the symbiote regenerates Peter every few seconds.
I love the dbz and mha references they used in this fight sequence🔥👌🏽
That sounds when the Symbiote basically does its domain expansion ID so good.
Just that high shrilling noise
No wonder villains can’t beat Spider-Man
The dude keeps jumping around everywhere 😮💨😮💨
1:00 vemonized spiderman boss fight
This fight was awesome but Spider-Man vs Spider-Man 2099 will still be the greatest Spider-Man vs Spider-Man fight ever
Dope ass fight fr Definitely enjoyed my playtime just now with this part
2:51 is basically a Yakuza Dynamic Intro and I love it
You’re in the way Miles! A̘̫͈̭͌͛͌̇̇̍l͕͖͉̭̰ͬ̍ͤ͆̊ͨw̠̘̗͖̮̥ͣ̽ͫ͂a̘̫͈̭͌͛͌̇̇̍y͉̝͖̻̯ͮ̒̂ͮ͋ͫͨs̪̭̱̼̼̉̈́ͪ͋̽̚ i̞̟̫̺ͭ̒ͭͣn͉̠̙͉̗̺̋̔ͧ̊ t̘̟̼̉̈́͐͋͌̊h͚̖̜̍̃͐e̮̟͈̣̖̰̩̹͈̾ͨ̑͑ w̠̘̗͖̮̥ͣ̽ͫ͂a̘̫͈̭͌͛͌̇̇̍y͉̝͖̻̯ͮ̒̂ͮ͋ͫͨ...
This hurts me mentally, emotionally and spiritually way more than it should.
Alex: NOW THE CITY THINKS THAT I'M THE PROBLEM!!!!!!! symbiote: do you think I'm the problem? Alex: but I'm not anymore! Symbiote: I'm the generation!
As awesome as this fight was, there should’ve been a moment where Peter got the upper hand and was about to kill Miles, but Peter starts fighting back against the suit long enough for Miles to break free
Perhaps between the first cutscene where Peter has Miles on the ground clearly completely addicted at that moment. Peter perhaps pulls a move Venom pulled on him in the final battle where he webs all of Miles’s limbs and is going to kill him but he looks at Miles and hesitates long enough for Miles to do a Venom blast. Then we lead into the midway point cutscene where Miles pins Peter to the ground and the fight plays out the same.
WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?! I MADE YOU! YOU OWE ME!!!
Peter was screaming like he was dying
I mean he was so bonded with the symbiote by that point that every ring of the bell probably felt like being lit on fire
Yuri went crazy in that booth fr
I just realized Peter was using the same technique called the anti-venom bomb against Miles in 3:42 , but colored black (because he’s obviously using the original symbiote). I really like the purple aura on it tbh, since it gives me Web of Shadows and Ultimate Spider-Man vibes, and for me it’s a representation of Peter slowly spiraling into the alien’s control further and further, strengthening his pain and desire for using the gooey parasite more frequently, while also making him look/feel more crazier and wanting to hurt people with how he uses it. I really wish that the purple light on it was present while using it with the black versions of the suit, to give it back its stronger and more savage feel.
Honestly that venom voice goes in !!
Tokusatsu and anime creators: You and I are not so different
Their fans: 1:35
People are in their feelings because Miles won. Jesus people. It’s all fiction.
How. Did you get good quality on vid?
All of the boss battles were a pain in the ass for me
This is the third time Miles has been forced to fight someone that he cares about
Man this fight hit me like a truck both yuri and nadji turn in fantastic performances yuri deserves beat voice in gaming for this scene
Kraven bites the symbiote suit tentacles
I dont think Miles is outright stronger than Peter more than Peter is so worn out from being spiderman and the symbiote wearing down his mental strength, Miles is just young and fresh
Miles literally got done fighting through hordes of Hunters and had a gladiator-style fight. And the symbiote constantly recovers Peter so that he's healed and not fatigued. So there's really no excuse here. Miles won.
@@RJ-rp8yd miles was just well rested in a cell, Peter is trying to fight through a symbiote hive mind that no one else has been able to get out of themselves, and the whole point of the game is showing miles is becoming a better spider man than pete can be right now
@@dre.co4721 "Well rested." LMFAO He was clearly hurt. And Peter wasn't fighting through anything until Miles put some sense into him. And even before that, we see Miles overpowering Peter and the symbiote.
Average peter d rider
“well rested in a cell” no bro he was in a cell after recovering from getting the shit kicked out of him by kraven and his goons after helping li escape. it’s basically canon that miles is the physically superior spider-man while peter is the more technologically gifted and experienced. in time, this version of miles will eventually catch up to peter on both those fronts as well.
How cool would it be if after each phase it switched prospectives and had eight phases for the entire fight. I mean it would be really annoying to get through them all but it would be much cooler.
Yall this is practically not peter vs miles, but Miles vs The Symbiote
0:25 close your eyes
2:45 🥶 💯
I feel like venom in the game is trying to do right but is going about it in the wrong way. He says “you think I’m the problem” which makes me think that he’s blaming them for thinking he’s evil when he’s trying to do right by fighting more aggressively and even wanting to kill bad guys (like wraith). In the finale he also says something along the lines of “you threw us away” which could mean he’s mad Peter got rid of him. He also says we are your friends and he’s “healing the world” could genuinely be him trying to make everyone powerful and happy by becoming symbiotes. These are my thoughts tho
I really hope we can get an alternate ending eventually and beat miles and see a fully corrupted peter for a new ending level
Anyone else feel like when Pete said "I know, I know....but" and then he screamed NOOO you saw the war he was having with venom in there
Pete was starting to snap out of it and Venom didn't like the fact he was about to lose his host that way
What is the song for the miles vs Peter battle?
It’s fighting back
This was awesome
I would kill to have an alternate timeline where you play as Symbiote Peter, and you whoop Miles' arse and say the Prowler intervenes, or Peter Loses control and goes full Venom mode, Please put that in DLC.
What would that accomplish?
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Miles is literally the MVP of Spider-Man 2
Literally ! And idk why these folks act like Peter can beat miles 1v1
Why is bro making the fight seem so easy that fight had me shaking😭