The 2013 Chevy Caprice Is a Quirky Police Car You Can’t Buy
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 10 май 2024
- CHECK OUT THIS CAPRICE PPV ON CARS & BIDS!
crsnbds.com/caprice-ppv
This is the Chevy Caprice PPV. It was built in Australia and imported to the U.S. where it was not sold to the general public. We are thrilled to be offering this one for sale on CARS & BIDS!! Today I'm reviewing this Chevy Caprice, and I'll show you all the many quirks and features. I'll also get behind the wheel and review the driving experience.
WEBSITE & MERCH!
www.dougdemuro.com
FOLLOW CARS & BIDS!
RUclips - @carsandbids
Instagram - / carsandbids
TikTok - / cars_and_bids
Twitter - / carsandbids
FOLLOW ME!
Twitter - / dougdemuro
Instagram - / dougdemuro
Facebook - / ddemuro
DOUGSCORE CHART:
www.dougdemuro.com/dougscore
CHAPTERS:
00:00 THIS...
00:35 It Can Be Yours On CARS & BIDS!!!
01:11 Caprice Overview
02:32 Police Pursuit Vehicle
04:16 V8 Powertrain
05:15 Quirks & Features
07:18 Interior Police Quirks
09:51 Cheap Materials
10:38 Gauge Cluster Screen
12:28 Infotainment
13:58 No Frills Experience
15:02 Back Seats
16:57 Trunk
18:21 Vroom Vroom
19:15 Driving Experience
23:21 Final Thoughts
23:43 DougScore
#dougdemuro #carsandbids #cars #chevroletcaprice #capriceppv 
Авто/Мото
Doug is the type of guy to say we can’t buy a car, but then post it on Cars & Bids…
I know right haha
As new you can't buy it, sherlock
Title: “you can’t buy”
1:08 into the video: “where you can bid on it and buy it”
A slightly more accurate title would be "you could not buy" but that would not get the algorithm clicks "you can not buy" will get.
The C&B listing also says "modified for civilian use" probably meaning there has to be several modifications to these cars for them to be legal for the laymen to own.
He's hustling
The speedometer check is absolutely related to it being a police vehicle, as pacing is one way to record someones speed for writing a ticket. As such, the speedometer needs to be certified and calibrated to ensure accuracy, as if it wasn't, the ticket would be able to be thrown out of court.
And being cops they can say yes the speedo is calibrated cuz the cash said so.
Can't see how it really calibrate siting still.
It can still be thrown out in court, most courts require that you have it on dash or body cam, on radar, because pacing can involve human error.
You beat me to it
Some police departments actually ban pacing nowadays too and instead rely only on the radar or laser. Unfortunately some asshats still use pacing as a method and give people speeding tickets through it but once the courts notice the word pacing written on the ticket by the officer, the speeding ticket is thrown out/dismissed
@@honda443That is probably because most modern cops don’t know how to pace. I saw a cop try to say somebody was “doing 90” because the cop had to “do 90” to catch up to the guy.
Doug's the type of guy to sit in the back of a police car and tell the officer about its quirks and features.
while handcuffed. I can imagine🤣
THIS was a mistake officer
Imagine also if demuro also the type of guy to sit in the back of Impreza STi.
There's a near 100% chance I worked on assembly for that exact car. I was in paint across various processes at that time.
Fun trivia, we also used to export these as Daewoo Veritas and they were classed as limousines. The rear seats were massaging, which is contrasting irony for some of the seats in the Caprice PPV which were plastic with handcuff recesses.
And a correction for Doug: The Left hand drive wasn't a conversion done in the US, these cars were build that way from body assembly, swapping out panels like the firewall for mirrored variants. Interior LHD variants were also all fitted here. They were fully drivable LHD off the line.
Thank you for your service!
Hey, Doug is just making things up. It sounds nice that's why we keep watching.
Legend! 👏🏼
I've got a 2013 Caprice PPV as well. Pretty much identical to the car in the video, but in Hugo Blue. Thanks for your contribution to happiness in my life!
@@reddeath5deltai thought Hugo Blue was a paint colour, man
There are a lot of things wrong in this video that are made up.
1. That is a 9c1 (patrol model) not 9c3 (detective model). Look at the decal (SPID). This car has the rubber floor instead of carpet, police rims instead of the full hubcaps, somebody removed the spotlight as you can see with the hole inside the A pillar trim and patched outside A pillar, and this car had a cage installed as the wear marks give it away.
2. They come from the factory with a Caprice badge on the rear. Someone removed it on yours.
3. That console did not come from the factory. From the factory they come with a bare plate for agencies to mount their equipment to. So the previous agency installed that console and the reseller probably installed that armrest/cupholder. Where they put the swinging cover probably held the radios and lighting/siren controls. Also most laptop mounts are a plate on the passenger seat front mounting bolts with a post that runs up next to the console. They are hardwired in.
4. The certified speedometer is just for the police market. Most law enforcement vehicle manufacturers include this feature for speed patrol use.
5. The rear seat isn't real leather. Its fake. That is factory.
6. That vehicle was used for patrol use. It had a cage in it, spotlight, was marked, etc. Typical police setup.
Great comment. Did that huge dome light come from the factory?
Thank you! I was getting frustrated watching this as you can tell he doesn't really know anything about police cars. The bit about using the bare console faceplate space as a desk had me rolling lol.
Yeah, lots of mistakes in this video. The rest end is a classic debadge by a previous owner or department. A 30 second google search would have uncovered that, Doug!
@@Davez621 That's a 'ticket' light, and they're usually added at the upfitter along with the console, lights, cage, etc. Although if memory serves, it was a 'factory' Ford part on the CVPI.
👏👏👏👏👏👏 Doug has no idea about Police cars... 🙈🙈🙈
The speedometer is specific to the police model. In order to issue a citation based on the officer's speed, their speedometer needs to be certified.
Came here to comment this haha
Stop copying other comments it makes you look like more of an idiot especially since it isnt true you cant get a ticket based on the squads speedometer.
The check Doug is going on about has nothing to do with "certification" of the speedometer though. It's literally just the computer checking all the vehicle systems.
thank you for this
My 2009 GXP does the same thing actually.
Australian here...
1. The Holden Statesman and Caprice are two different specs on the same platform, the Caprice being the top of the range. They used to be the car of choice for our Prime Minister and all VIP and chauffeur cars.
2. The Caprice/Statesman are a long wheel base models. The Pontiac GTO and the Chevrolet SS were based on the regular wheel base Holden Commodore.
3. The speedo calibration is part of the 9C1 Police Pack and this absolutely was a patrol vehicle. Debadging a vehicle isn't hard and was done some time after manufacturing. Plently of pics online of service Caprices with the badging they came with.
4. The side "vents" were never vents. They are where the side indicators are in regular models.
5. Engine covers are often removed as they create heat soak and lower the power.
6. They were never used by the Australian Police services. We used the Commodore models, including the higher spec models.
It's a sad indictment on Doug that since he sold out for 8 figures, he obviously hasn't put as much effort into the videos as he once did.
Sold out to who?
@@dankauffmanmusic The Chernin Group for $37million ... It includes all of Cars and Bids and a majority stake in everything else.
It's the very definition of sell out.
Good on him! He's successful and now very wealthy. But it's come at a cost to the quality of his content. If corporate shill Doug can't maintain the quality of his content to the same level as independent Doug, he shouldn't be doing it.
The left hand drive versions of Holden produced vehicles were also build as LHD not made LHD as stated in the video.
@@kulaak-krii riiiiiiight. Because you wouldn’t do the same thing if offered that kind of money. His quality is still there, people get things wrong it’s not uncommon.
@@zephiel123 you clearly missed the part where I said "good on him".
I was an officer when these were still being sold new. They did have badging on the rear. There was a Chevy bow tie dead center on the rear facing surface of the trunk lid, and a “Caprice” badge lower left under the chrome bar. Great cars. Handled like an early 2000’s BMW but was much quicker off the line and sounded fantastic.
That console isn’t factory either. They showed up with that funky little shifter surrounded by a whole lot of empty space and a bundled up wiring harness basically hanging out from under the dash. The detective model had a console but it wasn’t like that one. It looked more mainstream. That’s not a true detective model but it may have still been used as an unmarked unit.
@@htbf2343i thought it came straight from factory specs.
@@htbf2343 Was factory from Australia on our cars. it is a Australian VE Holden Caprice built in Holden in the suburb of Elizabeth South Australia Australia.
Is converted to LHD along the Holden factory line and converted to suit USA road regulations.
Yes was left off the US Police models as was built but anyone can buy them from Australia to convert it to a Australian factory built model
Australian models were luxury cars for politicians and Limosuine companies as has longer wheelbase same as the Holden Commodore ute and Holden sports wagons, or a station wagon.
Pontiac G8 sedan is the shorter model of the same car and in Australia it starts off as a Holden VE Commodore come in V6 or V8 models.
Some Americans also convert their G8 sedans back in to Holden Commodores by buying parts from Holden or HSV or even wreckers.
I have the Holden VE Commodore Maloo ute model of this car i also have the Holden SS ute model of the Pontiac 05 GTO Coupe as that is a Holden Monaro.
Chevy SS is a Holden VF Commodore built in Australia also
Australian police did not use the Holden Caprice as Police cars and instead used the standard Holden Commodore models either V8 SS or v6.
Fun fact, on these cars you could get either engine for the same price. There wasnt a price jump for the V8.
This reminds me of an interview with a BMW manager from the '90s who said that six cylinder engines cost them exactly as much to make as four cylinder engines, but that they still needed to offer both due to customer preferences and had to sell the six cylinder variant for more in order to maintain a premium image. With government contracts (and no premium image in case of GM), this obviously doesn't apply.
Not here in Australia. you paid a decent premium for a 6l
yeah nah cheap commo is SV6
@@SirCavemaninthewest we never should have sold. China tanked the brand, now there is cheap chinese crap that only lasts 5.1 years or vehicles that are not made to last our climate.
In Australia there was a price jump and in the WN generation 2013-2017 you could only get the LFX V6 in Gas/LPG (Propane), whilst the 6L being the choice for the majority.
You always say the cruise control on the stalk is weird but that’s where all the cars had it until steering wheel button became mainstream.
My 99 silverado has it on the turn signal stock. When I got in my dad's 07 silverado it felt weird how they moved it to the steering wheel
my cruise control is on the wiper stalk though
My car has a separate stalk just for it and I think that’s the best way to do it
Mercedes?
@@stangadoboaradreaptaomoara9567 Toyota created those separate cruise control stalks when airbags were introduced. Prior to that the cruise control buttons were on the steering wheel.
When these first came out, there was a dealer that managed to convert a few of these into civilian vehicles, and sold them to the general public. GM caught word and put a stop to that. Regular Car Reviews also did a good review of it years ago too.
Yep! I found the Jalopnik story on it. Criswell Chevy in Gaithersburg, MD. I think they ended up selling 13 before GM could shut it down.
@@Jeeptruck8613 units?
i got pulled over by one of these about 5 years ago. guy gave me warning and was super chill, but i remember looking at the police cruiser and not knowing what type of car it was. I'm a car guy like most of you and usually know any car on American roads pretty well, so it stuck out to me that I did not recognize it. but I soon forgot about it and moved on with life. This video has jogged my memory and now I am happy to have closed that loop. I got pulled over by a 6.0L chevy caprice haha
Thanks, Doug!
Lol is a Australian Holden VE Commodore Caprice, longer version of the Pontiac G8 and it is a Australian built Holden VE Commodore, Pontiac 2005-06 GTO Coupe is a Australian Holden Monaro are Holden Commodore 4 door versions of these and utes and station wagons.
Chevy SS is also a Holden Commodore.
USA General Motors CEO found out Australia was sending Holdens to middle east etc as LHD and liked the Holden Monaro look and they decided to sell it in USA as a rebranded Pontiac and even tried selling the Holden Commodore ute models and what the Pontiac ST sports truck with 50 cent as the face of during marketing came from.
This is technically not a detective model as it has a vinyl floor and offset shifter it’s considered a 9c1, this was probably a detective car since it’s all blacked out doesn’t look super beat up, and only has just over 70k miles on it,but you can tell the car at least had a spotlight by the hole in the driver side a pillar, you can also see the wear on the back of the front seats and the indent on the floor from rubbing against a partition,the 9c3 is the detective model it has carpet and and a normal center console, the 9c3 was discontinued starting the 2014 model year and all caprices came with the vinyl floor.
I'm confused. A car only sold to police departments doesn't seem very stealthy, whatever colour you paint it?
It’s so generic looking and most ppl don’t know cars like we do
This model is only sold to police departments but you can throw a rock and hit a civilian Caprice. It doesn't stand out.@@philallen7626
"This is technically not a detective model " followed by " this was probably a detective car "
@ohhhspanky definitely not a detective model just came from a police department that uses black cars with white letters 🤣
You can definitely buy these as decommissioned police vehicles
He means brand new, mоron
@@Blast6926What police department is buying these "brand new" lmao they're all decommissioned at this point bruh
They’re still pretty rare though, at least where I live. I’ve only seen a handful driving around.
@@Cryptosporidium140 when they originally came out police bought them new 🤦🏻♂️
@@vicvega9936I have never even heard of this. The oldest police vehicles in service near where I live are Crown Vic Interceptors.
I've been a cop for over 20 years and first off I can say that Certified Calibration is not normally used for pacing since that is pretty much viewed as archaic now. It can be used to judge the approximate speed another vehicle is going but most certainly is not used for writing speeding tickets anymore. It can be used for other things as reckless or aggressive driving. But the fact also is that the speedometer is calibrated from the factory with the tires that came on the vehicle. Once the tires were changed the speedometer had to be recalibrated which almost none of them were. In addition the particular exhaust on this vehicle is most certainly not stock. I drove many of these V8 cars and none of them sounded like that, nor did the exhaust have chrome tips. And you can definitely tell this car had a cage in it as some point in it's life due to the damage and indentation on the backs of the front seats. The cruise control on these vehicles contrary to what some may think is very useful and got used a lot in different departments. Since most departments ordered these vehicles in bulk they could be assigned to divisions such as inmate transport which almost requires cruise control. Because if you ever drove 600 miles to pickup an inmate from another facility wearing a vest and 40 pounds of gear, the last thing you want to do is have to drive a car with no cruise control. But, the fact remains that most of the ones that came to our department spent more time in the shop than on the road. Engines were a big issue. the cylinder deactivation on these always inevitably failed. And when it did it required an engine out. Any other parts that were needed had to come directly from Australia. I remember a car was dead lined for 6 months once because it needed a front fender. These cars were good in concept but after a couple years of buying them we switched to Explorers.
Here in Australia the police cars were the Ford Falcon's and the Holden Commodore's, the Statesman and Caprice are long wheel base and considered a luxury car here. The speedometer's on both our Aussie Falcons and Commodore can be switched to Police Mode, the Commodore through a button combination and the Falcon through a ECU Scan Tool.
By brother-in-law is a cop and funnily enough when asking which car they prefered driving they always said they enjoyed the Falcon XR6 Turbo models, the Falcon XR8 and the Commodore V8's weren't as fun to drive for some reason plus they mention the Falcon seats were more comfortable while wearing their duty belts with all the gear on it.
We did have the standard V6 Commodore and Falcon's (non XR models) but they were more for general duties work compared to the XR6 Turbo/XR8 and V8 Commodore which were mainly Highway Patrol cars.
I find it a damn shame Ford didn't send you guys some of our Falcon's to work along side the Caprice PPV sent over by Holden, I'm sure if you guys got some more of our Aussie cars there it might have made a lot more Americans appreciate what the Australian automotive industry was able to produce even with our smaller population
@@tolgahk84I’m glad they didn’t. There aren’t any parts for them. They were sent to the US with a loss on each car due to Holden’s union contract that required a gradual draw-down. Holden killed all production lines aside from this Commodore, but needed more units sold, so GM subsidized them and shipped these over.
Australian here - I have a 2015 Commodore ute that was originally a police vehicle. The lights and sirens were not drilled into the roof, but secured on a rack to the roof, and probably had a shell over the tray. It has two batteries behind the seats, one which ran the L & S. Inside, it's fairly basic but not as basic as the Caprice in this video. It came with steelies, but I swapped them for matt black alloys and a hard lid on the tray. It was a year old with 60000 kilometres on it and has so far been a great car that I cannot replace as they aren't made anymore. The "utes" they sell now don't have a 7ft tray like mine and as I use the length to carry things, I don't know what I will replace it with in the future.
i've never heard or seen any utes being driven around Australia by any police. they definitely had the caprice (luxo model) and Falcons. now Australian police cars are from BMW...
@@kruleworld They were real but I don't think they ever drove around without the back cages attached.
They had similar cages to the paddy wagons.
@@BarrySmootherI still see them around from time to time, they've been gradually phased out in favour of Rangers used in exactly the same way as well.
@@kruleworld The enclosure for transporting people and the lights and siren are not permanently affixed to the car, apparently. If you were here, you could look at the original owner in the service book which was indeed Victoria Police.
@@thelorax9622Yes 100% correct as once having the Tailgate removed and the Fibreglass Rage Cage attached into the rear tray.
A necessity after the death of the FORD/HOLDEN Panelvan’s in the late 80’s-early 90’s.
Doug, the Pontiac G8 wasn't a Caprice, it Was a Lumina or Commodore.
eh close enough. They are both called the WM or VE chassis. Yes a Caprice is longer.
@@connorm1600 You're right, 3 series, 5 series, A4, A6, all the same if you squint hard enough.
@@Kushari Hey we don't all have 20/20 vision. Joking aside that is a dumb comparison, a better comparison would be A8 and A8L. The reason I say that is for the 11-13 cars the drivetrain, suspension and interior is all the same. Also naming can be tough on these cars, the Caprice was also sold as a Buick park avenue and a Bitter Vero.
Nah same platform just longer
@@connorm1600 Sorta. Statesmen/Caprices were always considered separate to Commodores, as up until the WM they were quite different, but the WM's still considered to be a different car due to the longer chassis and having different panels. It's more like a Golf and Scirocco instead of an A8 and an A8L.
The certified speedometer message doesn't mean it's being checked every time the car is started. It is specific to police vehicles and is required because often times, an officer will match the speed of a vehicle and follow it for a while before pulling it over for speeding. When the patrol car's speedometer is certified, it's just as valid as a laser or a radar in court.
Yea the way most manufactures always define it as, it means the speedometer has been certified to be dead accurate as long as you keep stock wheels and tires are on.
Lies.
But aren’t all speedometers not really accurate? I mean can they really make this car’s speedometer dead accurate?
I had a 500 CC motorcycle and when my speedo read 60, my true road speed was 56.
So I always assumed that any car I drove after that would have a little error. Don’t they tend to read slower than actual?
yes one of the measuring devices whichever used respectively needs to be calibrated and certified as such.
@@josebrown5961 Speedos would read higher than actual, usually 2 to 4 units higher. Had they read lesser than actual, then you would have people speeding all the time. And it is not an error, it is intentionally kept so.
Doug twitching and gesturing like Elmo having a seizure.
😂😂😂😂
It's just Doug tweakin again , all good normal behaviour.
Crispin Glover school of acting.
That's very cool fact. Plus, the Caprice PPV handled quite heavy like the Touareg.
Thanks Doug. I'll just add that the Pontiac G8 and Chevy SS was the Australian Holden Commodore, with the standard wheelbase. The Chevy Caprice was based off the Australian Holden Statesman/Caprice, which was a long wheelbase luxury version of the Commodore. The Caprice name was used by Holden in Australia for it's top spec luxury model.
The Grange was the top spec Statesman, Caprice was the mid tier Stato
@@rheel6747 - I'll correct you there! The Grange was a HSV model which used the Caprice as a platform - HSV shoehorned their super powerful LS3 V8 into it instead of the "pov pack" LS3
The G8 and the Chevy SS are both based on the Commodore, the SWB car the Caprice is based on.
Interesting that for our Aus markets, the Caprice and its Statesman brother were both luxury version of the Commodore/G8/SS, but the US got the luxury version stripped down as a police car and Australia never used the Caprice in any police capacity.
In South Africa and in several countries in the Middle East (though GMME), the Commodore was also sold as the Chevrolet Lumina.
What did Australians use as police car ?
@@Chiellus11 We used Chevy SS’s (Holden Commodores) and Ford Falcons mainly. Caprices were used to shuttle our Prime Minister around 😂
Wasn't the "new GTO" also based on the Commodore?
@@aussie2uGA no, the new age GTO (2004-2006) was based on the Holden Monaro coupe 2004 had the ls1 5.7 350hp and 2005-06 had the 400hp 6.0 LS2 v8
Fun fact, here in Canada we machined the engine blocks for these cars, then shipped them to Australia. Agile block machining was our departments name and we specifically called the 6.0 a "W" block, the machining line was built in 1994 and it was run until the early winter of 2017. Very nolstelgic to see this engine!
what do they don with the excess tools and CNC stuff ?
I saw RPO code L77 on the decal for that engine.
All of our scrap machinery / tooling is sold to China
Doug you should absolutely come down to Australia and review all our cars
It'll absolutely change how you feel about the Caprice (Statesman) as you'll be able to actually drive a nice example and not some beat up cop car
You should check out David Tracy from The Autopian. He spent a month in Australia restoring a 64 Valiant ute and drove it to the Deni Ute Muster. He was in awe of the Hemi 6 engine that we never got here in the states. There's an excellent set of videos on their website detailing the whole process.
he only reviews cars that he has on cars and bids website. This is a commercial video for his website.
And us Aussies didn’t use them as police cars in Australia. They were built and sold as the luxury version of the Holden. We used the Holden commodore SS as pursuit cars here..
I have a cammed one making 500hp. They were built 15k of them from 2011-2017. A lot of them do have a Caprice badge on the rear, as mine does also. Great cars. Fun as hell. One of the best cars I've had.
Yea mine did too
Isn’t it a Frankenstein ls?
It's an L77. Still an LS. Nothing frankenstein about it really. Everything is same as every other LS.
@@drunkpolack7612
Yes it's a L77 engine. Basically an LS2 block with LS3 heads. I have a 2014 that I'm building for drag and drive car. Just ordered the LSA a week ago for it.
I've seen them with badging. He's making assumptions again. 😂
waiting for the Lotus Carlton review
Still a year before they're US-legal, right?
@@drunkenhobo8020 nope - production of '90-'92 (~34-32 years ago), well within 25 yr import law
Right
Audish
@@Friends5121 Yeah my brain just malfunctioned there.
The Holden Caprice was the last patrol car I used before retiring from law enforcement. They were faster, handled better, had better brakes, and had better leg room in the rear, but they were much more fragile than the Crown Vic it replaced.
You forgot the best quirk, stealth mode! Push both + and - buttons for the dash light adjustment, and it turns off all interior and dash lights besides the speedometer. My favorite feature on my G8!
These definitely came with a chevy emblem on the rear... this one just happens to be de-badged. I love you Doug, but that's a 3 second google search before you say it's because of cost cutting.
Doug even included a still image of one with a Chevy badge on the trunk during his B roll!
So much stuff wrong here it should be considered actually embarrassing. Our boy doug didn't do any research.
He often talks about things that are not factory and he thinks they are. That's why I don't get why some ppl love him so much, his research isn't particularly good. Also he often misunderstands the purpose of certain things or whole cars lol
@@Krzysztof_88he's definitely a young millennial
@@danielknepper6884 Update your "people to shake first at" cheat sheet, champ. Millennials are in their 30s and 40s these days.
The calibrated speedo is so that people can’t appeal speeding fines based on a technicality
They still can majority of the time, nowadays as human error can be involved, because your technically pacing, usually have to have it on dash or body cam, and be able to see the laser or radar readout of that person speeding.
And, some police departments actually ban pacing nowadays too
The police man is slowly losing the ability to divine speed just because he is a cop.
With cop cars now having cameras the cop’s lying eyes are not all any judge has to weigh in court.
Had these in in our Police department from I believe 2012 till about 2015. A few older guys are still rolling with theirs today. They are dead reliable and a true sport sedans in disguise. Touch and hold the traction control button for a few seconds and that completely disengaged the traction control if you desired to do so lol. But beware, these things had a tendency (at least in my experience) to react very slowly to counter-steer then VIOLENTLY snap back. Overall the Caprice is a car that I really miss. Lot of good times and good memories in that car. Now I’m a detective and sit at a desk and drive a Hyundai Kona 😂 (it’s an undercover vehicle).
The Caprice is the long wheel base version of the Pontiac G8 and Chevy SS. They are built on the same platform, Caprice is just slightly longer as it was developed by Holden as its luxury model. These were built in Aus from 2006-2017.
The Caprice in the video is from the 2010-2013 generation and majority of the dashboard is from the base, short wheel based model Commodore, even the touch screen.
I put 50k miles on a 2014 6.0 v8 with the updated interior. It was a fantastic car with comfortable seats, huge back seat, and so much power. I begged admin to let me keep it but was eventually forced into a trash Ford Explorer. Absolutely tragic!
You mean you didn’t enjoy the 40% drop in torque!?
…at least you didn’t get a Durango though. Oof.
Did you get the full rubber baby bumper package?
Sorry, got too excited. Rubber baby buggy bumper package ?
They should let officers buy their old squad car if it's being retired
@@I-TeeeWhat were the issues with the Durango?
I just purchased a Tahoe PPV yesterday. Damn cool that you can buy these things in Govt. auctions.
These were quite popular in the Gulf region even if they weren't as well regarded as the once loved 80s and 90s Caprices. 4 trim levels were available here: LS, LTZ, SS and Royale, with the LS being a bare bones fleet spec car with similar interior to the USDM PPV while the Royale is far more luxurious and closer to the Holden Caprice equivalent. While a V6 was available for the LS during the years 2007-2010, the 6.0 V8 became standard on all models since 2011 so it became the cheapest new GM car with an LS/LT engine.
The steel wheels weren't for cost-savings. These police-only steel wheels are rated for impact survival with curbs to a given speed rating, which happens to patrol cars. Same goes for these type of wheels on previous USA Caprice PPVs, it was an option under the 9C1 police package with the suspension upgrades, bigger alternator, etc. These heavy-duty wheels also had unique center cap mounting bolt holes compared to other steelies of inferior construction.
This is known as the WM caprice, still on the zeta platform but different from the VE and VF commodores mentioned at the start . We got the G8 as the Chevy Lumina/ss in the middle east and the Caprice as a Chevy model which only ended production in 2016. Our SS came with sunroofs as standard which is how you can differentiate them from regular models
Also, the plastic fantastic interior carried over to the civilian versions of the WM caprice at least where I live, every single one is falling apart and has door handles that are attatched with zip ties. I'm a GM fanboy but this and the Lumina have some of the worst interiors I've ever seen ( same with Mustangs from the same era)
@@mintynuggets Weird the commodore and caprice in australia aren't falling apart.
@@WayneKerr69420You must not get around many high kay models mate. Almost every Commodore/Ute/Caprice ive ever seen or owend had worn buttons, cracked and torn leather, sagging rooflining (classic Commodore trait), absolutely garbage v6's etc.
You obviously have never drove a high km commodore. Absolute garbage. I used 8 of them over the years for buisness fleet @@WayneKerr69420
@@shakeelali20 Oh yeah mine only has 60000 Ks on it. The sagging headliner is very annoying
Doug is the kinda guy to get pulled over by a state trooper who turns out to be a fan of his channel and get asked to do a review of their car in exchange for forgetting to give him a speeding ticket
Doug is a type of a guy to trip on banana
@@edwardvalivonis23 🤦🏻♂️
@@edwardvalivonis23 you replied to this dude he is a crazy user
Big fan of the vinyl flooring actually so much easier to clean
I don't like carpet in cars. Carpet acts like sound deadener and the great unwashed sees it as opulent. I would prefer rubber flooring. Only issue it could trap water against the floor and rust it out.
The modern Caprice is the long wheel base version of a Holden Commodore. The G8 and Chevy SS were based on the Commodore, specifically the VE SSV for the G8 and VF SSV for the SS. The Holden Statesman is what the Caprice was called here in Australia for years until they changed it to Caprice. The HSV team also built suped up versions of the Statesman/Caprice with the HSV Grange.
The speedo check is there for a purpose. The officers can catch up to a car they are chasing and see how fast the speeder is actually going. These don't have any bias like some other civilian cars that over report your speed. It helps to write speeding tickets. Civilian cars don't have that.
As long as you keep the stock wheels and tires on it’s certified to be dead accurate.
Police are also civilians. Everything they do falls under civil law. Only people subject to military law are not civilians. It’s so stupid to try to act like civil servants such as police are somehow not civilians 😂
Dont tell them that.@@lookoutforchris
Doug is the type of guy to say that you can't get a certain car in the United States while standing in front of, reviewing, and then auctioning said car. Love you Doug.😁
At least he didn't try to say it was a "very unique 1 of 1" (-:
He probably meant while they were in service you couldn't buy them.
You can’t buy a State Trooper while it’s on service, why would you want to do that 🤣
My wife drives a top of the line holden caprice here in Australia. The final 2017 model that's been decked out I'm every optional that holden offered. She always wanted air ride suspension so we just installed a Limo air ride kit and its definitely a plush ride. I also added a exhaust cup out while the car was off the road ans now she can operate the valve on the exhaust via a key fob. I have the final maloo holden ute and the final vf holden wagon and a 2005 cv8 holden monaro (Pontiac gto). I took the LSA supercharged v8 out of the ute and installed it in the monaro and now the ute has a crate LSX running a Harrop supercharger. The monaro is being customized and is off the road but isn't far off being completed. The wagon has a built supercharged LS3 is a completely customised wagon from its one off dash to the full leather interior and custom interior lighting including the roof starlights like the rolls Royce has that my kids wanted. And also has remotoperated opening doors and remote starting. I ditched the automatic in favor of a tremec manual. I definitely love these cars and I doubt I will ever sell them
Most of the features Doug is pointing out are what base model VE Commodores have. The speedometer check, the systems menu on the cluster, the map and navigation buttons that don’t do anything. They might be specific to that car in the U.S, but all those things are just what a VE/VF Holden Commodore Omega/Evoke does. Just thought as an Australian who’s owned plenty of these, that would be good to let some of the U.S viewers know, it’s not police specific. It’s commonly known in Australian that all Commodores have “Cop Mode”. Where you can press a sequence of buttons and every light in the entire car turns off except the speedometer. Like a stealth mode. You can also go into “Engineering Mode” where it shows you things like your exact RPM, Hours spent idling, and other even more detailed information. Pretty cool stuff all local Commodores have! I’m fairly sure most modern Ford Falcons can do the same.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS THANK YOU DOUG!!!!!!
Calm down Doug head!
@@theblackhand6485 Bruh what???
I think Chevrolet and GM would've had great success with the Caprice if they allowed us Americans to have a civilian model. I bet a lot of older people would have bought it instead of searching for a new Buick or Cadillac in today's time. This car would've brought back memories for a lot of folks and I do believe it would have sold. They could've put a detuned 6.0/6.2 in a luxury oriented form.
They did do that, they just called it the SS and flopped big time. I doubt it being named the Caprice instead would have changed that
@@evanb09it didn't help that GM basically didn't market it at all
@@evanb09 the SS was far too sporty to fall into that category. It was too overpriced for that market as well
@@evanb09 Nah, I'm saying, They could've used the same body but have a civilian version just like they did with the old B-Body Caprices from the late 70s to the mid 90s. However, GM/Chevrolet (IMO) screwed up the names during the 90s and 2000s-2010s. I think the Lumina name should've continued as the W-Body Car and the newer Epsilon body (2014-2019) Impala as well due to those being FWD based platforms. Then when the Australian based cars came out, then comes the Caprice (civilian and law enforcement just like the old times) and in 2014, the SS should've been the Impala SS (just like old times). The Caprice and SS are pretty much the same car but you can tell the Caprice is longer and bigger than the SS (which was basically an updated/facelifted Pontiac G8).
@@danielcrane1682 Facts. If GM was gonna give us the Caprice as a law enforcement car, we could've had a civilian version of the same car as well. Have a cheap LS version and a Luxury LT or Premier model. The Premier could've had leather, a silky smooth detuned 6.0/6.2 making like 350 horses, not too much (don't wanna take away from the SS that could've been called the Impala SS). Put leather in it, heads/up display, Bose audio, a sunroof and sticker it for like $48,000 max. Although it is an Australian car, GM could've have retooled and reopened the GM Moriane, Ohio plant and build them there. It would've sold like hell because it will give older buyers that nostalgic feel of the old B-body Caprices and Impalas from back in the day. Forget SUVs. These car companies need to start back creating and building larger RWD mainstream car. Example: Mazda need to bring back a 4 door RWD sedan like they use to make the 929. They can call it the Mazda 9. Buick can have a similar car as the Caprice and call it the Avenir. Toyota should've made the new Crown RWD based with Cressida type vibes. Instead of Ford making new SUV models they could've developed a new RWD car platform and bring back the Crown Vic and Town Car names.
Doug the reason there is no storage or fold down armrest in back is to reduce any areas where a person can conceal items while being transported, the officer would otherwise have to search every storage pocket with each crim they put in their car. Love your videos and hope to see more Australian cars.
I live in Australia and own a Holden Caprice. The Caprice here was a long wheel base luxury sedan. It was actually Holden’s top of the line model. Most were bought by the government to chauffeur around our prime minister, parliamentarians and dignitaries. Holden ceased production in 2017 and my car is an end of production 2017 model. The end of era Caprice had the potent LS3 6.2L V8 engine. It’s the most comfortable highway cruiser being LWB, supple suspension and V8 powered.
was this car painted at Maaco with the $199 special?
People claim that these cars actually have very good paint but usually they have lived a hard life of police work. These cars are well served by a paint correct.
Looks like it.
@@connorm1600 Its prob a urethane paint job with no clear.
The instant fuel read out will change to MPG once you start moving. It's a GM Europe thing, my Opels do the same, at standstill it measures litre/hour and once you move it switches to litre/100km
My '09 Skoda Superb does that too. Cheers!
@@phillipevans9414 It's interesting that most VW/Skodas have similar or the same gauges and yet most VWs don't come with liters per hour reading
@@Krzysztof_88 It displays as part of the instant fuel economy reading. Cheers!
When I lived in Eureka, Missouri, our police department had one and I always thought it was the coolest police car. Then when I moved to Kansas, one of the local departments had a Caprice PPV as well. I was able to sit in one and the officer let me take a look at it. He said he liked the Crown Vic, but said the Caprice was a nice experience to drive.
The PPV shares its dash with the cheaper swb VE Commodore (actually Chevy Lumina in LHD markets). Whereas the Holden version of the PPV that was sold along side the VE used a different dash
An Australian Caprice? Man, this looks awesome! Also, it's related to the Chevy SS, so it's also pretty quirky, interesting and cool, not just by its quirks, but also because of its backstory. Awesome police car!
11-13 is G8 based (interior and suspension etc) 14-17 is SS based. The WN/VF cars (2014-2017) came with a bunch of weird stuff like column shift.
When I first started seeing these it was like what’s this chiseled impala lol 😂😂😂
One of the crappiest car, my neighbor had 2009 like this, he regret selling his 2005 Caprice SS, saying this is CapASS 😂😂😂😂😂🤣
This is exactly the type of car content i want on this Channel, Real quirky stuff
I absolutely love the Caprice PPV. I've wanted one for the longest time and it's my most wanted car right behind the Excursion, which I actually got one of those 7 months ago. Now I gotta get me a Caprice.
@Doug DeMuro the Caprice PPV did come with "CAPRICE" on the back left of the trunk, under the silver moulding.
The "Certified Speedometer" used to be printed on the cluster, before they went digital. They have to be certified, for high speed chases. Non-Police vehicles are upwards of 10% inaccurate. With the certification, I think it gets cut down to less than 1%.
Doug should’ve drifted it Saudi style
I saw a Holden badged one driving around Austin. As an Australian, it put a smile on my face.
Ken oath mate!
The dome light turns red. The speedometer check is to calibrate the speedometer for traffic stops. Not sure if it would stand up in court, though.
As an owner of a 1991 Capri, its a Chef's kiss moment that Doug got the Brand wrong. No notes!
Are you in the US? How long have you had it, and what is the ownership experience like? I'm in Aust' and thinking of getting one to preserve as an overlooked locally built (classic) car, before they are all gone. Cheers!
@@phillipevans9414 yeah parts are still mostly available for routine maintenance...but theres some parts that you have to scavenge now. It's cheap convertible fun
My buddy in Florida has one of these that has had all of the police stuff removed and converted to civilian. It's badass
That flat space was for mounting radio and light/siren! Computers are mounted on a stalk that is partially adjustable! The big dome light also lights up red only to preserve your night vision!
I actually got to ride in one of these (as a police car) with a cop around their full test track and it actually handled really well. It was very impressive.
Ive beeen waiting for the day u would review a police car. Now just do a Crown Victoria or a Explorer.
feel l;ike he did a long long while back
I'm very surprised he hasn't reviewed a Crown Victoria Police Interceptor. I guess he figured a Mercury Marauder and a Lincoln Town Car were enough Panther.
@@bwofficial1776Lincoln Town Car used to be bridal or wedding vehicle.
Due to the lack of parts...my local Chevy dealer has 3 of these in the back lot, in which they are cannibalizing for parts to repair the local police cars.
Yeah, they are getting tough to find parts. Body parts are EXPENSIVE if you can find them used.
@@mph5896 you will find plenty of parts here in Australia for it they were very common but you would search for commodore
I’m trying to find a cv axle for the rear
I remember back in 2011 or 12 I used to do custom work for the Chevrolet dealership in Rock Hill SC and RHPD was changing from crown Vic’s to Caprices and tahoes, and the fleet salesman was a rad dude and they accidentally ordered a caprice in fire engine red so it was being sent back but first he took me for ride in it and let me tell ya this car is absolutely no slouch! Very impressed at how fast it was
My 2012 PPV was dead quiet from factory. I feel like with those tips on there and the blacked out grill someone did SOME tweaking to this baby.
Best upgrade you can do is a Pedders Holden Caprice Suspension and Pilot Sports all around. 15.5" brakes STOP this thing also.
Also Quirk missed. The Gauge cluster also tells you HOURS the car has Idled Vs Drove around. My car sat still running 2200 hours and had a total of 3300 hours when I bought it and only 47k miles.
By looking at the Service Parts Identification label on the trunk lid I can see L77 for the 6.0L Gen IV all-aluminum V8 with rectangle port heads, AFM, 10.4:1 compression ratio, 362 HP, and 391 ft/lbs. of torque. I also see GW8 4.10 rear axle ratio; G80 limited-slip differential; MYC 6L80 6-speed automatic transmission. It's a great package of equipment for the powertrain. And of course, we see the 9C1 police package.
2.92 year gear. Not 4.10. First and second gears wouldn’t exist if it had that big of a gear. They are a ton of fun tho
@@tobyspence3621 I think you're right.
Disable that AFM ASAP!
I love how the cars & bids ad says it's a 6 speed manual while the one Doug shows is an automatic.
The Caprice in Australia was a LWB sedan. From 1988 onwards, it was a Holden Commodore sedan stretched over the station wagon variant's longer wheelbase- good for the police adding a cage between the front and rear seats to contain perps.
That Mercury Capri is a Ford KN Laser convertible designed and made in Australia, hence the "6" on the VIN. The initial Laser hatch was a re-worked Mazda 323.
The VQ Holden Statesman & Caprice was actually released from March 1990
Weird fact: every police vehicle requires you to open the trunk with a key, for obvious reasons. Police explorers have the membrane buttons normally used to open the hatch, but they don’t do anything, you still need the key.
Another thing I learned is that sometimes if you order a fleet of units, the keys can be made universal, so the keys to one unit can be used in another unit. I’ve only seen one department that actually did this, and it was with police Explorers. Im not in LE, I only inspect returned leases, so I don’t know much about the details in ordering police units. But I find them fascinating, especially when I get to compare them to regular vehicles. Oh, and as for that giant dome light, every police unit has one installed.
OMG actual FACTS!
Thanks for telling us stuff we didn't actually know, instead of just making up sheet like doug did in this video!
Doug the kind of guy to charge fans 50 bucks for a signed photo of himself.
And I would buy it.
…but review it first.
And then flex on people with his Porsche
Fans of Doug are the type of guy to buy a signed photo for $50.00.
Doug is a type of a guy to bark when doing doggy style
An interesting detail about this generation of the Caprice that I just couldn't help but notice is that the taillight housings look awfully similar to the Impala's taillights at the time just slightly thinner.
Honestly surprised he didn't mention it
I love my 2013 PPV. I did a cam, kooks pipes, a tune, a camaro rearend, 3200 stall converter. I dyno'd at 420 at wheels. And I can run ethanol since is a fleet car.
In Australia the domestic VE Series II Commodore had the NAV and MAP buttons fitted even if the particular car wasn't fitted with navigation.
To clarify, this isn't a detective spec car, it might've been used as one but it has the 9c1 option code, which is for police spec, not detective spec. Detective spec also has the same center console as a Pontiac G8.
When this was made the Caprice name in aus was exclusively the long wheelbase version. The Commodore name was the core model which is what was what the vast majority of personal buyers went for. While the caprice could be sent was bought be the general public the primary buyers appeared to be the gov as state cars for pollies and limousine companies/drivers. There was also a lower spec version of the lwb called the statesman (think statesman = crown vic, caprice = lincoln town car). There was also a worked version by hsv called the grange.
Most cop cars on the other hand were either Commodores, or fords' version, the "Falcon". I don't think they prioritised giving their passengers extra legroom.
I got one. A super sleeper with some engine and suspension mods. Great value for a fun rare daily
I'm an Aussie and was over in California last year, and saw a bunch of these parked in a vacant lot just outside of San Francisco. I shouted something like, "Yeah, Aussie Holden's right there!" - and my kids had no idea what I was on about :)
As others have pointed out, lots of errors in this vid which I won't cover again, except for the interior comparison. This can being reviewed is an older model based on the VE/WM Holden models, whereas the nice shiny interior shown in the picture for comparison is from a VF/WN Holden.
In Aus these weren't huge volume sellers other than to vehicle hire companies to be used as Limos', or premium taxis. Trying to find one without 500,000 k's on it and strictly private ownership isn't that easy, but they are a very comfortable car if you do happen to own one.
Doug the type of guy to tell people a car for sale on cars and bids can't be bought in the video title.
Doug is the type of guy to rank a clapped out police cruiser equal to a chevy ss and only slightly less cool than an AMG or V10 powered S6
Others have already pointed out the Pontiac G8 and Chevrolet SS were _not_ the same as the Holden Caprice, so I won't... LOL
I remember hearing somewhere (can't find a link) the Caprice PPV had to withstand curb strikes up to 60km/h (37mph). That helps to explain the steel wheels. The cheap interior plastics are for cost saving _and_ durability.
Fun fact: There was a version of the Holden Caprice sold in China in the early 2000's, it was called the Buick Royaum.
I think something Doug never points out is, that a steering system that is a little less responsive is nice if you're drinking a coffee, eating a donut, whopper, chalupa, or 5 layer burrito, or sneezing while driving...it gives you more leeway, and makes an involuntary twitch less likely to throw your vehicle out of it's lane. 🤷🏼
my friend owns one, it’s super fun.
Love the doughnut compartment under the arm rest
For any Holden lovers if you want the truly V8 version of this it's called the Holden Grange. I wish I had the grange but I only have the v6 Caprice just like this one but with Holden badging.
Not sure if already mentioned.. but the Pontiac G8 , and Chevy SS mentioned at 2min mark , are short wheel base versions , so were NOT called Caprice in other markets (including home market Australia) . Only the LWB as featured in this video was , was also called a statesman in lower trim (in Aus) . They are basically the same car , just the longer wheelbase and body , with the extra 3rd window glass in the rear , and different front+rear end treatment
Damn Doug, this car has to be worth all of about $2000. Where’d you find a gem like that?
If only.
More like 15-20k, dummy
@@Ranguvar13 I know, I wish. Car salesman here, and I've been trying to sell mechanic's specials that need engines or transmissions for $2K.
Worth a lot more than $2000. Still has 4 days to go and its currently at $9000
Not even close. Id know. I own one. Its cammed and has the HF 20's on it making over 400whp
Funny thing is that the suspect in the back seat gets a more comfortable seat than the police officers.
99% of the time those are tossed in a pile, and replaced with a plastic seat before being put into service.
@@TakuroSpirit77 Not the dodges
Just because it's wrapped in leather-like material doesn't mean it's more comfortable. And it's wrappend in fake leather to make it easier to clean. It was a police car with partition unlike Doug says
Only 2011 to 2017. I saw one brand new at the international auto show. 6.0 LS with the LS3 top end with posi rear drive I was in love. Same drive train as a G8 GT but with Flex fuel. And alot cheaper. Sleeper!
Aussie here the Caprice is the top line trim level of the commodore that's the model name the G8, SS is all commodores, I worked at the factory that built these we had a few different versions of what we locally called the US cop speciel im glad that they still live over there as the Holden factory is long gone
Doug, the Pontiac G8 and Chevy SS were not sold anywhere as the Caprice. Both were based on the short wheelbase Holden Commodore. The Caprice name has only been used on long wheelbase models.
As a PO.. I had one of these as police car and it was glorious! Car was super fast, handled
awesome and was hard to outrun! Absolutely loved it! Now don’t get me wrong, the crown Vic was quick and robust, but going from a crown Vic to a caprice was like going from a ‘75 Cadillac Eldorado to ‘03 Porsche GT3!
Love to hear from people who actually used these cars for work.
I still see these in use all the time in Georgia. Love seeing them driving around
When I was growing up in Oz, this Holden Caprice (and Statesman, which was the lower luxury trim) was far less popular than the smaller sized Holden Commodore, which for decades was Australia's top selling sedan along with the Ford Falcon and Toyota Camry. In fact, the Caprice/Statesman was usually a luxury fleet car of various state governments, used to chaperone public officials. They were super comfy inside but I can't remember knowing anyone who actually bought one as a family passenger car -- just generally a size bigger and a step more expensive than most Australians wanted. It's wild seeing how it became a utilitarian, stripped out workhorse for American cops. Cool vid Doug!
I seen one at a car show in Orland Park, Illinois.
I am south suburbs too 😊
They are widely available if you know where to look.. there are a few for sale at stealerships in the Chicagoland area.
From what I understood, the Chevrolet SS was the Holden Commodore in Australia. The Chevrolet PPV was the Holden Caprice/Statesman which had a longer wheelbase than the SS/Commodore, but shared the same Zeta platform albeit shortened.
At 17:56 the second to last option on the spec sheet says 9C1 - not detective 9C3 which is the one you want. The first sign is the wheels, as well as the vinyl floors and computer/dome light stuff. 9C3s have plastic wheel caps, full carpet interior, and normal center console. Also as mentioned, the rear was debadged, there should be a Chevy bow tie there.
As someone who has driven the Australian domestic model, the shifter not having tiptronic, and the certified speedometer are definitely PPV quirks. That exhaust also isn't standard
This model was very commonly seen in Shanghai from 2007 to 2013, it was sold as Buick Park Avenue (based on the Holden Capri but with very high-end trimmings). It was used as a government commuter car everywhere in China during those years.