Another great video showing the how and why of taking your time to do it the right way. Looks like you might just save those pistons and liners for another block.
Don't you just love it when something like that happens? Who knows, with your patience and know how you might even be able to salvage the whole engine. Wishing you the best of luck. I'll be watching; thanks again.
That's a good sign, isn't it? The crankshaft is moving,.so you might get more serviceable parts that previously thought, that's always a good thing. Thanks for this report on progress. I'll be waiting for more.
Always kinda fun doing a Salvage project & nice when a person gets an unexpected Positive surprise ! It will be interesting to watch & follow your progress on the old Cat. Good winter project. You are very methodical & detail oriented in your work & that always pays off in the end. Keep up the Great videos & Thanks for Sharing with all of us. Stay warm & out of those MN snowdrifts. ;)
Mr. Squatchly: when using one nut above the other to remove any bolt, for we mechanics this is called a jam nut. Usually when used to hold a loose position, the jam nut is only 1/2 as thick as the holding nut when used while the engine is running or building fab.
Don't you love those Sweet little Surprises,,,, I discovered by using a 50/50 mixture of Acetone,& Synthetic ATF which is half the molecule size of Any penetrating fluid on the market,,, this will penetrate anything even if it's fuse together,,, I'm restoring a 1960 F100 4 by 4 I have yet to twist off or ruined one nut and bolt on this vehicle by using this mixture,,, Excellent video, methodical breakdown.
I use this mix now all the time instead of PB Blaster, it's awesome. Though I'm using regular ATF with Acetone not synthetic, might have to try synthetic now.
Thanks for the update, there are many times i've found this old stuff throws you a nice surprise instead of a bad one. That block might still get the gallon of flex seal and some gorilla tape then L.O.L it looks like you got way more snow here than we do at the moment In Manitoba , but that could change again this week, more's in the forecast. Take care
If that #1 is still stuck, it's in the perfect position to dump a cup of diesel in, light it, and let it burn out. The heat from the fire is often enough to break the piston free. Only caveat is it's inside and doesn't look like you can roll it out easily... So don't burn the shop down.
I tried it on a 4 cylinder Fordson E27N motor that all 4 were stuck and fluid wouldn't run down past the rings, I was told use a mix of diesel and motor oil for a better hotter fire. I tried carefully jacking the pistons using a bottle jack and hard wood block in the bore and chain round the block to push against. It wouldn't budge even with removing the rust I could see. I heated it for a while with the fire in the bores, and it did free off and turn over after moving it with the jack and swapping a few cylinders to push the other way a few times. The block was frosted junk like this one, i just did it to see if it would work I've never tried it again. A buddy of mine filled his Perkins P6 cylinders with evaporust type liquid after cleaning the worst rust and water out, that worked to after a few days. his motor had sat out 20 years with the head off, so was a right mess before he got it.
Got the leverave now, like a screwdriver on a ring gear! It'll come and yep, the frozen North has returned. I dare say the kids in Billings are and have been in the same shape. Soooo, you and Pop stay warm and happy. I liked the special report a SITE! Thanks, Toby! A-PLUS! AndI too have paid the price for being too eager!
We have one of the largest Caterpillar rebuild operations in the US in Park City, Kansas close to where I live. They get jobs from all over the world, working on even the largest MaK marine diesels.
Irregardless of a job having a good thing happen is always a plus. Maybe just mabe that block maybe repairable. If no damage is found on the blocks inner walls about 5 lbs of brass rod might be installed to reseal the O'l girl... ?????? I came across a D-2. On long Island over by Ilwaco Washington, the head was off it it's been there like that for years. The casting looks like the track shoes. Dark rust and growing thiings on it. That one was a cable blade. Best of luck to you...
Hey I appreciate you uploading this. Very informative and a good look at one of these old diesel Cat engines. Could you do a video about one of the pony motors they used?
They do sell a MIG wire that can weld cast iron it works pretty good, might work on the head and block water jacket. but you said you had another block so that works too lol
There`s a stroke of luck eh , I use brake fluid to soak seized items it`s caustic does`nt hurt any metals , We unseized an Oliver 88 tractor took 2 days but it free rolled after .
That's great! Sounds like you can likely save the pistons and probably cylinder liners. I don't know much about blocks with removable liners. When you pull the liners, will you be able to see the back of those cracked frozen-out water passages in the side of the block, or are they still farther away?
I used to deal with rusted solid muscle car era blocks a lot. I have always thought about using a thinned out fill of penetrating fluid, and putting a small vibrating electric toothbrush in the bore for a bit of time. I always wondered if the agitation of the fluid would help work the penetrant into the small spaces that the penetrant would not diffuse into normally, almost like a sonic cleaner. I can't vouch for it, as i never have tried it, but if things go south what is there to loose. The science behind it makes it seem at least plausible. I hate to see stuff like this engine go to scrap.
You are pretty fortunate to be able to move that. I am not patient, but I get it. If you can salvage a piston, rod and sleeve, that is a win with these old engines. Is this a wet sleeve engine?
So I sent the the head for the grader to a machine shop to get valve guides so than went to take out the studs so they take a vice grips and they use it on the treads they almost had to pay for new studs
Would you be interested in a 1940 D7 cat all matince manual's everything that's ever been done to it since 1940 if the Lady can't sale it she is going to sale it for.scrap her dad passed away .but she as a lot of A model stuff even has a thirty two cabrolay but we are in KY .
The D2. Going by the serial number was made in 1938 around. About September / October from East Peoria Illinois. I have a question . I have a 1944 D2 . There is SP at the end of the serial number do you know what it means
I had a Dec in a tug boat it was 7 18 27 x it was a experimental motor just a early cat diesel my understanding is cat didn't go into diesel production till 1933 or abouts? Pony motor only rope start. One he'll of a motor....
I can't get over how thick those cylinder walls are. That is an engine that was truly built to run forever(-ish)
Good things come to those who are patient. That is you my friend
I love the Special Report. Pure gold humor.
ok im an addict for this stuff! love your work! another 28C day here in Oz
Another great video showing the how and why of taking your time to do it the right way. Looks like you might just save those pistons and liners for another block.
Don't you just love it when something like that happens? Who knows, with your patience and know how you might even be able to salvage the whole engine. Wishing you the best of luck. I'll be watching; thanks again.
I can only give one thumbs up per video. 😟 I am watching them on the second round. Still enjoying them.
That's a good sign, isn't it? The crankshaft is moving,.so you might get more serviceable parts that previously thought, that's always a good thing.
Thanks for this report on progress.
I'll be waiting for more.
Always kinda fun doing a Salvage project & nice when a person gets an unexpected Positive surprise ! It will be interesting to watch & follow your progress on the old Cat. Good winter project. You are very methodical & detail oriented in your work & that always pays off in the end. Keep up the Great videos & Thanks for Sharing with all of us.
Stay warm & out of those MN snowdrifts. ;)
Great news...I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for the next dramatic episode!!!
Great video love looking at that old iron and how it ticks ! Thanks for sharing 👍
Mr. Squatchly: when using one nut above the other to remove any bolt, for we mechanics this is called a jam nut. Usually when used to hold a loose position, the jam nut is only 1/2 as thick as the holding nut when used while the engine is running or building fab.
This D2 series has been wonderful! Hope you can save the block :)
One thing is sure you know what you are doing, that is experience, well done it is a very informative and learning project
Don't you love those Sweet little Surprises,,,, I discovered by using a 50/50 mixture of Acetone,& Synthetic ATF which is half the molecule size of Any penetrating fluid on the market,,, this will penetrate anything even if it's fuse together,,, I'm restoring a 1960 F100 4 by 4 I have yet to twist off or ruined one nut and bolt on this vehicle by using this mixture,,, Excellent video, methodical breakdown.
I use this mix now all the time instead of PB Blaster, it's awesome. Though I'm using regular ATF with Acetone not synthetic, might have to try synthetic now.
Thanks for the tip, gotta try it!!
Thanks for the update, there are many times i've found this old stuff throws you a nice surprise instead of a bad one. That block might still get the gallon of flex seal and some gorilla tape then L.O.L it looks like you got way more snow here than we do at the moment In Manitoba , but that could change again this week, more's in the forecast. Take care
Having a halogen like that will help warm the place up, too !
Looking forward to the rest of the teardown.
I just sold a halogen lamp. Moved to LED.
That’s awesome the pistons started moving!
That ol Cat just doesn't want to give up!!!
Nice breaking news report !! If only it happened more on nightly news! But seriously, nice job !!
Looks like the cat will live again, well done a great bit of luck.👍
Thanks for the video, fun to watch.
ATF works wonders against seized pistons.
I can hardly wait until the next video.
If that #1 is still stuck, it's in the perfect position to dump a cup of diesel in, light it, and let it burn out. The heat from the fire is often enough to break the piston free. Only caveat is it's inside and doesn't look like you can roll it out easily... So don't burn the shop down.
BarnyardEngineering forget the diesel throw a mug of coke a cola in it will be free next day
I tried it on a 4 cylinder Fordson E27N motor that all 4 were stuck and fluid wouldn't run down past the rings, I was told use a mix of diesel and motor oil for a better hotter fire. I tried carefully jacking the pistons using a bottle jack and hard wood block in the bore and chain round the block to push against.
It wouldn't budge even with removing the rust I could see. I heated it for a while with the fire in the bores, and it did free off and turn over after moving it with the jack and swapping a few cylinders to push the other way a few times. The block was frosted junk like this one, i just did it to see if it would work I've never tried it again.
A buddy of mine filled his Perkins P6 cylinders with evaporust type liquid after cleaning the worst rust and water out, that worked to after a few days. his motor had sat out 20 years with the head off, so was a right mess before he got it.
@@super6954 I have been a witness to that procedure and it worked on a C Allis.
Got the leverave now, like a screwdriver on a ring gear! It'll come and yep, the frozen North has returned. I dare say the kids in Billings are and have been in the same shape. Soooo, you and Pop stay warm and happy. I liked the special report a SITE! Thanks, Toby! A-PLUS! AndI too have paid the price for being too eager!
As Alexander Botts, star of the "Earth Worm Tractors" stories and movie would say, you are a "Master Mechanic".
Made my day thanks a lot for sharing
Looks like you've done this once or twice before! Great video! Looking forward to when you have that D2 pushing dirt.
If you end up scrapping the block, you could cut the "Caterpillar" name out of the cast and use it as a wall mount.
Big ol' bandsaw?
Cutoff wheel?
Great video, snowing already....
Great job again and video! Looking forward to some new videos 😎👍
We have one of the largest Caterpillar rebuild operations in the US in Park City, Kansas close to where I live. They get jobs from all over the world, working on even the largest MaK marine diesels.
superb, thanks for taking the time to make the video
Good video as always!
Another kick ass D2 video. Keep em coming!
looking forward to day 2
That's good things got moving. Good video to watch while I have my coffee. I love watching other people work ha ha ha.
Ida never thought that it would have broke loose. You might end up with four good pistons and sleeves out of it.
Irregardless of a job having a good thing happen is always a plus. Maybe just mabe that block maybe repairable. If no damage is found on the blocks inner walls about 5 lbs of brass rod might be installed to reseal the O'l girl... ??????
I came across a D-2. On long Island over by Ilwaco Washington, the head was off it it's been there like that for years. The casting looks like the track shoes. Dark rust and growing thiings on it. That one was a cable blade. Best of luck to you...
Thank you for the "tour".
Very cool !!
Way to go you have movement.
Great video.
Well done...Great job!
Three Pistons moving.... a few more turns and watch out, it might just start...!
Are New Blocks still available ?
Thank you
Hey I appreciate you uploading this. Very informative and a good look at one of these old diesel Cat engines. Could you do a video about one of the pony motors they used?
They do sell a MIG wire that can weld cast iron it works pretty good, might work on the head and block water jacket. but you said you had another block so that works too lol
Kroil is great stuff to use
Love the videos, great details :)
There`s a stroke of luck eh , I use brake fluid to soak seized items it`s caustic does`nt hurt any metals , We unseized an Oliver 88 tractor took 2 days but it free rolled after .
Good Video
That's great! Sounds like you can likely save the pistons and probably cylinder liners.
I don't know much about blocks with removable liners. When you pull the liners, will you be able to see the back of those cracked frozen-out water passages in the side of the block, or are they still farther away?
I used to deal with rusted solid muscle car era blocks a lot. I have always thought about using a thinned out fill of penetrating fluid, and putting a small vibrating electric toothbrush in the bore for a bit of time. I always wondered if the agitation of the fluid would help work the penetrant into the small spaces that the penetrant would not diffuse into normally, almost like a sonic cleaner. I can't vouch for it, as i never have tried it, but if things go south what is there to loose. The science behind it makes it seem at least plausible. I hate to see stuff like this engine go to scrap.
I've heard that a mix of ATF and diesel fuel works well on stubborn pistons.
Feed the algorithm!
Awrome video I would love to see the bock repaired
You just have to do what you have to do to work, been there and done that
"And 30 minutes later, I got it off"
Not the story of my life, my story is " and 3 seconds later"
real nice 😅
And now day 2 will be titled, Caterpiller block repair!!!!!!
You are pretty fortunate to be able to move that. I am not patient, but I get it. If you can salvage a piston, rod and sleeve, that is a win with these old engines. Is this a wet sleeve engine?
So I sent the the head for the grader to a machine shop to get valve guides so than went to take out the studs so they take a vice grips and they use it on the treads they almost had to pay for new studs
I see why you did it your self when you work on the transmission you did it your self.
If three pistons moved all four did
Would you be interested in a 1940 D7 cat all matince manual's everything that's ever been done to it since 1940 if the Lady can't sale it she is going to sale it for.scrap her dad passed away .but she as a lot of A model stuff even has a thirty two cabrolay but we are in KY .
Go get the plow out !!
Tripod and impact gun would come in real handy. Shame about that block.
The D2. Going by the serial number was made in 1938 around. About September / October from East Peoria Illinois. I have a question . I have a 1944 D2 . There is SP at the end of the serial number do you know what it means
Thank you for the reply. This would make sense as they were used for agriculture. Land preparation.
I had a Dec in a tug boat it was 7 18 27 x it was a experimental motor just a early cat diesel my understanding is cat didn't go into diesel production till 1933 or abouts? Pony motor only rope start.
One he'll of a motor....
This must be a different motor than a 5u
Ok I I thought so because my decompressor is on the head with the rockers
The block may be junk but it would good to keep everything complete & together untill u need the parts so u dont lose em
Hey Squatch, can i buy the engine block from you when you get it stripped? i want to turn it into a coffee table.
I like your idea of using the block as a coffee table.
what stroke of luck
Another great job on video!