Remembering the BROKEN Smash Games
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Coney watches Smash 64 is Broken by @Heeew and starts remembering more of his good ol' Smash days. Coney tangents to stories during Smash 64 and Brawl Minus days, recalling the fun moments and strange interactions with old Smash figureheads you now know today.
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Z/L-cancelling was added because the devs wanted players to be able to use a defensive option really quickly after using an attempt. The original purpose was just shielding, but players realized if you tapped the button quickly, you would have the reduced lag but not be stuck in shield.
Sakurai made a post talking about L-cancelling in 64. It's to look cool. It's even called "smooth landing".
Finding out what GimR stands for all these years later is kind of a surreal experience
Pretty sure he changed it to GimR is my Rock recently after he changed his faith or something LOL
I think after a while I just assumed it didn't stand for anything
@@BudewIsOwnage if he changed it to GimR is my Rock doesn’t that make it a recursive loop?
Legit mind boggling
I had a similar experience with finding out S2J stood for "Smoke2Joints" from an old promotional thing from one of the apex's
I unironically pop off everytime when I see a Coney video in my feed. This is my "before they got huge" channel I swear.
For real. His videos are always great.^^
9:08 I legit made an igloo during that blizzard. One of the most memorable moments I've ever had
hi creepooba it's zeb
For Coney, Z-Cancelling is actually referred as a technique in the original Smash 64 manual also called smooth landing. This was implemented into Melee but there wasn’t any actual documentation into the game whatsoever on L-cancelling, so no it’s not am accident.
I didn't know that's the official name in 64, I guess it explains why the L-canceling item in smash 4 was called smooth lander
WHAT? GIMR STANDS FOR "GOD IS MY ROCK"? Thats the most shocking thing I got from this video holy shit thats insane
It’s funny to think all this stuff would’ve been patched out if it came out today. Glad we have the happy accident that is Melee
For smash 64 at least half of it was intentional
I'm a zoomer and I played 64 as a kid and did not realize how high the hitstun was until I saw Heeew's video
There ain't no way GimR stands for "Godismyrock" I am actually in denial rn
Man.... man. Hearing coney reminisce is so nice.
I heard that Z/L canceling was added so if you miss an ariel, you can get into shield faster.
I didn't even know gimr was an acronym
10:00 there is a timeline where this become Smash's version of The Hateful Eight
Seeing Luigi move around in the air like that is so weird considering his air mobility is hot garbage in the unmodded smash games.
My money is on Poyo being the Luigi that kept doing the infinite
64/ Remix is my favorite smash game. I got into it within the last 3 months. So much fun but it is stupid broken.
Given Sakurai's more recently discovered love for fighting games like Fatal Fury, I have to believe L and Z Cancelling were just him wanting to add random tech into Smash for fun.
Reminds me of someone who I went over to their house and played them in starcraft, and he got SO MAD when he just couldn't win. He would give up so easily too, the moment anything bad started happening to his base or if he lost a few units he would just give up. The guy was just so mad at himself and started yelling so loudly at himself, kept repeating things like "I SUCK" "IM THE WORST PLAYER EVER" things like that over and over, made things so awkward, I had to just leave at some point after he had a particularly nasty tantrum after one game. Like what dude lol
64 looks wild! Only played that game once...
“Remembering the broken smash games”
You mean all of them??
Is ultimate that broken?
@@SsjkidsSaveCosmo08 it’s got stuff that people would consider broken, at the end of the day all the smash games are amazing and broken
@@SsjkidsSaveCosmo08 all smash games are broken by nature, Ultimate is balanced in the way that “if everyone is broken nobody is”
I have played every installment in the Smash-Series, and Even tho i am not a Pro, i feel That every smash has its Kind of charm to it. Smash 64 with its Doll-graphics and OGs, Melee With its Brutal engine and speed, Brawl and its story Mode/(i really enjoy Brawl Doubles), Smash 4 With Miis, amiibos and Unbalanced trash (my Cousin and I used to Play Random with Costum moves and Badges, and it was hilarious.) and Smash Ultimate With its Amount of Chars and Spirits and World of Light
Brawl Minus is still a fever dream that lives on in my head
Happy to see the Lupe Fiasco love
coney : I don't want to hack my switch, I'm not a criminal
also coney : I played brawl minus
definitely hacking my switch whenever a higher spec one eventually comes out in 2055
i cant believe this is the first time i learned what gimr stands for lmao
I didn't know about Brawl Minus and now I want to play it very badly
Hope they put smash 64 on the Switch n64 thing.
I would love to hear some Project M stories! That was my first fully competitive game and I would love an excuse to remember the good 'ol days.
The title didn’t let me know this would be a reaction video.
Has coney seen smash highlights? That channel rules dude
Honestly 64 not having spot dodging is based
Brawl minus was my first competitive game
I'm very tempted to get into melee!
64 best smash game
4:50 It's not. It's worse. N64 was 30fps
Can we get this on stream? I need some Coney Brawl Minus content today.
Hey, that's me!
I love Coney story time
coney looks like if slime and ludwig had a lovechild
13:07 background music. you got siivagunnered
Lets goo more Heeew
Yup, melle, brawl, 64, 4, and ultimate were all broken as hell, Atleast ultimate got updated and got fixed by them putting sora and sans in it.
13:10 song?
Coney loves Lupe Fiasco PogU. American Terrorist and Little Death are my fav tracks by him wbu brotha
He Say She Say is mad good too
coney u r a brawl player. that game is just grabs, the game. i think that's why u like ness
If you love smash 64, play Smash Remix.
broken af
Chop chop with Luigi is still insane for edgegaurding in ultimate
I didn't know you had a kid man you look pretty young for sure.
Smash Remix be like
I've played so much hdr the last year it's actually amazing
lol reasons to avoid fredericksburg
I have more hours in 64 than brawl. Although I actively dislike playing brawl
Yippies > yahoos
You forgot Melee, bro.
this videos have been milked for too long
I've grown to really like coney and not esam
I'd be interested in looking back at actual competitive matches in this nonsense. Not what characters COULD do. But what players actually took advantage of.
wario switch Xd
Hack your Switch. You bought it, you use it how you want. Its not your fault Nintendo couldn't make PM Wario.
Early squad 😄
"did you get the money back"
"Aha this is the funniest story Actually what happened was ahahaa no actually this is serious this actually happened to me This was the 2nd time sombody stole my wallet"
Tell me you are lying and got the money back and lied about it being stolen to not pay the guy who won xD
Bro you couldnt be more obvious
Aye yo sub to coney yo
"This isn't a tournament, we're here to have fun"
"I am having fun"
I think many people have had an experience like this at some point in their time playing smash
@@TheQuestion27 Or even outside Smash.
- Come on, that's no fun to any of us.
- But it's fun to me!
3:30
I've been told that, when asked why Kirby was so bad in Melee, Sakurai said that it was because fans of 64 kept claiming that Kirby was powerful because of favouritism, and some even confronted him about it. He made sure to make Kirby as awful as possible so that it would never happen again.
And then it happened again with Meta Knight!
that's funny--
Rip to the fat pengu tho😔
Today is the day I learn what GIMR stands for
There's always that one guy who doesn't read the room and tries the grimiest strats during friendlies. I used to help run my university's Smash Club back in the Wii U days and one person would always choose Bayonetta. Would scare away newcomers who wanted to have fun
Shit like that is so corny IMO just have fun
@@77d3 Corny shit IS FUN!
What are your thoughts on footstool combos in Smash 4? Are they grimey or is it fair because Mario can Up-Tilt you like 6 times into 4 Up-Airs into Up-B?
Should've challenged him to a Ganon ditto
16:42 imagine not having a Wario Switch
You can’t convince me that the Luigi infinite guy sounds like something m2k would do
It doesn't sound like M2K wouldn't do it if it's optimal
That infinite is exactly what M2K would do
13:25 Can't spell "GrIMeloRd" without GIMR.
Lmao I remember that blizzard in Maryland, was living in Silver Spring at the time. Same mentality of “Yeah we’re not going outside for a week.”
Also that fucking Lupe Fiasco “The Cool” just threw my head BACK in time.
Yup I also remember that blizzard. I ran out of good food in 3 days, but it was a fun time.
blizzard of 09?
I was thinking of the 2016 one I believe
@@saturn6277 2009, 2010. I just remember sleeping over and old friends house for a night then I woke up and had to somehow get myself back home cause we just moved in in August and the snow was up to at least my hips just walking through it.
I think Z-cancelling was intended to make getting into shield after an aerial quicker, they just didn't expect people to press it and then not shield afterwards.
Smash 64 is fun, but it's also very difficult to play, as you're constantly fighting with the controls. It might even be better to play via an emulator where you can use a more modern controller. Most N64 controllers are pretty beat up so movement becomes difficult (because you probably destroyed the analog stick playing Mario Party lol). But it IS something I recommend trying out if you're a youngin' who wasn't around when it came out :)
I still remember seeing the original commercial with the Turtles song playing, and I fell in love with the franchise after convincing my grandma to let us rent it back in 1999.
“Sakurai knew what he was doing” I always wondered what he did exactly for development. Did he tell them how to make the characters? I know he’s the main director but a lot of people think he does everything lol
You know for a fact that he had more involvement in the earlier games than the later ones, though.
So that's worth factoring in.
64 has a Looney tunes meets pro wrestling vibe. Love it tbh lol. Busted frustrating, but fun and original game.
Coney talking about Brawl Minus... I am in love, I play it and got into one tournament. Missed another but I'm a decent player. The game has changed a lot and I actually make a couple of TAS videos. The game is fun
Not gonna lie, my favorite thing about Smash 64 all these years later is how fucking dangerous it is.
No air dodging, no spot dodging, you can get put in block-stun for like a thousand years before you can do anything else, grabs are insane, some moves do stupid amounts of knockback compared to the later games and all this and more creates a game where one mistake has a high chance of killing you regardless of your damage percentage.
Brawl was the funniest game in my opinion
Yes
2:30
If I were to guess its probably similar to L canceling, im 99% sure sakurai said in an interview that it was originally added to make the transition from aerials to shield faster.
Wario Switch
64 is funny to say the least
Coney should most definitely hack his switch for ultimate but pm. it would be a great decision
i love how coney reveals what gimr stands for to thousands of viewers and then absolutely refuses to acknowledge it at all
Coney is actually really funny
As a smash 64 player, thank you.
1:43 based
Coney won't play Yoshi's Story anymore....
I'm sorry, this may be a hot take, but I find absolutely hilarious the idea of someone intensely sweating as they input perfect down-taunts in an infinite loop for 20 minutes, never breaking character until the tension in the room is about to break, the trivial nature of a casual match of friendlies rapidly dissolving into a wild conflict, and then the guy's just like "lmao jk"
I am not inviting you to my birthday party
"is this funny to you?"
"in a cosmic sort of way, yes"
when you say it like that it might sound funny, but in a real scenario where you're literally 20 minutes waiting to play and this guy just keeps doing that...
The problem is how long 20 minutes IS.
If he did it for only a few minutes it might be different.
Like coney said, you have to not be in the room to find this funny. Have experiences with cringe gamers like this before and every time it ruins the vibe lol
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Brawl minus was actually the first platfighter I played competitively. Modern brawl minus is very different from what is in this vid. For example wario is based around pressing buttons a second time to fart boost. Wario also has his full waft on up b, and normal full waft is replaced with a rolling crate which wario can ride on
I was alive and in Maryland for that storm so I can relate to your experience of being a person living in Maryland. Acknowledge me father
Brawl- looks like it was balanced to be more like an anime fighter with how much shit can be cancelled into other shit and how unbalanced it is.
6:40 song?
This is so nostalgia for me. I remember hearing about and trying the beta for project M
Wasn’t as fun as brawl minus
The fact that Isai is still winning tournaments is nuts
Nmultnm
Pmuch all of em are broken. I'd say maybe ultimate is the first attempt at actual balance on smash 4 before it...kind of
Love smash 64 it’s gloriously bad
Coney wii songs!