I really like this idea and will give it a try with some scraps. BTW- as someone way older than a millennial, I like the wainscoting and cheerfully install them myself. 🙂
Love this idea. Gotta find someone with scraps. Have not made many things yet as i have been building my wife a custom pantry and a built in oven/cooktop combo as well as a built in oven/microwave combo. Added drawers below the oven/microwave combo to make use of space. Today I ran the electrical for the coffee bar. Eventually I’ll get to the point I can begin to make things instead of building out a home. Love your content man. Actually started my own channel a few months ago. Been tough to balance a 60hr a week job with remodeling our home and trying to produce content. I give it to you “pros”. Thanks again for all you do for us newbies.
Honestly, I love keyholes...I've used them on a few projects & love the look. I do also appreciate wainscoting, but I may be the lone millennial that does.
Looked so simple but knowing where to put the keyholes so that the shelf lines up exactly in the corner with the other shelf is a massive skill. I would spend hours measuring and marking and still probably get it wrong. 🤣
For me, it's not if it bottoms out, it's the actual placing of the keyhole in the 1st place. I suppose you could make the slot section as long as you want to allow for a little adjustment but then the bigger the slot, the more material you're removing which weakens the wood. It was more about where exactly and how you mark out where the keyholes go. It may be simple to someone like Eric but a video on how to do that would be great for us dunces?
Thank you for taking the time to share this. In the 90's I used key holes for small shelves made out of pine. Now I know it really is a weight bearing option.
A lot of manufactured “stuff” for hanging on walls comes with keyholes, and they’re a pain in the butt to work with, if there’s more than one. Your scrap wood lineup tip is genius. I will suspend my dislike of keyholes until I’ve tried this, and who knows, maybe I’ll become a convert…?
They ABSOLUTELY can be a huge pain if you’re just trying to measure, but creating a story stick like this makes it super simple and quick. I say give it a shot. You may be converted indeed!
Making anything, even joints, harder than they need to be, is just wasting energy on superfluous. I like your presentation style that expresses your opinion without the adamant dictate "this is the [only] way you should do XYZ". Thanks
I tried an interesting technique shown by Glen from DIY Creators RUclips channel. Maybe not as easy or straightforward as Key Holes, but what he did was create 4 pocket holes, one in each corner of box shelves, that allowed four screws to enter either studs or drywall anchors. I did this, and tested about 150 lbs without any noticable issues, leaving the weight on the wall for 2 days. My shelves now are a place for all my many, many, woodworking magazines, within easy access.
Interesting. Just checked out the video. The logic is certainly sound, and not wholly dissimilar to where I'm coming from with keyholes. I may have to do a head to head test one day.
Thanks for the idea of using key holes for shelves, any particular rule to follow regarding how deep to cut the key hole in relation to the depth of the board?
Not particularly. If it’s wide/heavy, I go as deep as the bit will allow, usually around 1/2” total depth. For a small shelf like this, I don’t worry about it too much. Maybe 1/4” deep?
Did you check that corner for square before making the shelf? I only ask that because I install a lot of trim and almost never run into a corner that isn't wildly out of square. I could see a scenario where someone makes a beautiful corner shelf nice and square, and the wall is 10 degrees out.
That is an excellent point. Yes, I did get lucky that the corner is square. I considered covering options for install if not, but wanted to focus more on the keyhole for this video. Could always alter the miter to fit the angle after a dry fit.
Interesting. This is my preferred method for picture frames and I did it once on a hallway coat rack I made for my brother, which is holding up just fine. Do you have a minimum thickness you like to leave to hold the weight for different sized shelves? Don't recall what I did on the coat hanger but don't worry about it so much on picture frames.
I didn’t pay much attention to the depth on this give its size, maybe 1/4” deep or so. But for the liquor bar I sink them as deep as the bit would allow, close to 1/2” total depth, due to the weight. And I’ve used them on coat racks in the past as well. 5 or 6 years later and they’re still perfect.
Nice idea for the skinny live edge scraps. A buddy just forwarded me a link to this. You have a new subsciber. Thank you for the idea. I have a couple spins on this i want to try based off your video. I haven't used keyholes like that before. How deep do you sink those in?
Awesome! Thank you! I don’t pay much attention to the depth on something this small, maybe 1/4” or so. But for heavy objects like the liquor bar I sink them as deep as the bit will allow, maybe 3/8” to 1/2” total depth.
Wainscoating... ugh, but "I'm young and don't have many momentos of a life well lived... yet." Instead, I ridicule lage scale intrest features (wainscoating) in favor of A PIECE OF A F'NG STICK ON A WALL." Please, put this video in a time vault because when you watch it in your sixties, you'll understand why I'm rolling on the floor laughing my ass off. 🤣🤣🤣 It happens to all of us... trust me. Great video. Thank you for this and the other skill building videos you've created!!!
@ENCurtis Thank YOU for understanding that I greatly appreciate your skill and the knowledge you share. Most of all thanks for understanding my comments are with humor, not malice. Very much enjoying your vids!!a
Hiya. I have a question that you, or one of your viewers, can help me with. You do very good videos, clearly a teacher. I have a 115 year old mandolin. it has been played over those years. I need to clean it, skin, dirt, all you expect. The back is mahogany and is in pretty good shape. The top of body has finish scratched off, like you see on guitar when no scratch guard. I was going to clean with water, white vinegar, and dish soap (unless someone has better idea). I have fret cleaner for... frets. I was wondering if there is something I should apply to body? I was thinking, typo warning, renaissance wax. Any guidance Wood (ha!) be appreciated
So, after mortising for the dominos, you conveniently didn't mention them again. At what point did you realize that dominos perpendicular to the miter cut wouldn't work with the sliding action required for the keyholes? Probably don't need them anyway. In this case a biscuit would have worked (but only glued to one piece or the shelves would never come off again).
Conveniently I pressed the two 45s together simultaneously to get them flush. Conveniently. But yes also a biscuit would have done fine, just as I mentioned in the video.
Unfortunately I don’t. I made that piece back in 2018 before I began making videos. Though there are a few posts about the process if you scroll WAY back to the very beginning of my Instagram.
Bro what’s going on with your links?! The insta link says the page has been removed and the Facebook link goes to some chicks page, I think I’m on a government list now 🤣
t was really boring. The explanation was too much. It bores the viewer. The idea is self-explanatory, there was no need to add to the explanation, my friend.
I hope you are not upset. But my friend, your work is very professional, I watch your videos regularly. But accept that too many explanations tire the viewer. Do not forget that those who watch these videos are capable enough and are not ordinary people. Your videos are self-explanatory. Therefore, it does not need much explanation. I like your videos and watch them regularly and recommend them to my friends and they also have the same opinion. I hope you understand the issue. Thankful👍👍@@ENCurtis
Great idea and practical to use!
I really like this idea and will give it a try with some scraps. BTW- as someone way older than a millennial, I like the wainscoting and cheerfully install them myself. 🙂
Ha! Fair enough my friend. Fair enough. I’m glad you found the video helpful and no shame thrown at wainscoting in other peoples’ homes 😂
I love that mug at the end! I need one! 🤣
Haha yeess!!! David Bowen makes them. He’s AWESOME
Nicely done, thanks for sharing friend
Thank you! Cheers!
You are just a genius..
Finally!! Someone else like me that has an affinity for keyholes. Nicely done.
They’re WILDLY underrated!
Love this idea. Gotta find someone with scraps. Have not made many things yet as i have been building my wife a custom pantry and a built in oven/cooktop combo as well as a built in oven/microwave combo. Added drawers below the oven/microwave combo to make use of space. Today I ran the electrical for the coffee bar. Eventually I’ll get to the point I can begin to make things instead of building out a home. Love your content man. Actually started my own channel a few months ago.
Been tough to balance a 60hr a week job with remodeling our home and trying to produce content. I give it to you “pros”. Thanks again for all you do for us newbies.
Fricking love the VIBE of your videos sir! Say yes to the keyhole;)
Thank you!
Great idea
Thank you! Cheers!
Honestly, I love keyholes...I've used them on a few projects & love the look.
I do also appreciate wainscoting, but I may be the lone millennial that does.
Nice shelf brother. 💪
Much appreciated my guy 🤘
The sideways keyhole makes a lot of sense. And the pressure from any weight will pull perpendicular to the grain! That's really cool!
This approach has been clutch for me through the years. Hope it’s helpful for you too!
@@ENCurtis I still have not figured out how you got the dominos in?
I was wondering that, too....? @@bernardhvanengen5002
Looked so simple but knowing where to put the keyholes so that the shelf lines up exactly in the corner with the other shelf is a massive skill. I would spend hours measuring and marking and still probably get it wrong. 🤣
I was thinking that the whole time!!!!
does it actually have to "bottom out" in the keyhole if it's sideways like that though? seems pretty forgiving to me
For me, it's not if it bottoms out, it's the actual placing of the keyhole in the 1st place. I suppose you could make the slot section as long as you want to allow for a little adjustment but then the bigger the slot, the more material you're removing which weakens the wood. It was more about where exactly and how you mark out where the keyholes go.
It may be simple to someone like Eric but a video on how to do that would be great for us dunces?
I always love watching your videos and getting to see how you work!
Did you make the coffee cup at the end?
Thank you so much my man!
Thank you for taking the time to share this. In the 90's I used key holes for small shelves made out of pine. Now I know it really is a weight bearing option.
Glad it was helpful! And I’m confident those shelves are just fine 🤘
Mate. I just found you. Love the keyholes. Just poured myself a beer and Im going to have a bit of binge watch. Cheers from NZ
Awesome! Thank you brother!
A lot of manufactured “stuff” for hanging on walls comes with keyholes, and they’re a pain in the butt to work with, if there’s more than one. Your scrap wood lineup tip is genius. I will suspend my dislike of keyholes until I’ve tried this, and who knows, maybe I’ll become a convert…?
They ABSOLUTELY can be a huge pain if you’re just trying to measure, but creating a story stick like this makes it super simple and quick. I say give it a shot. You may be converted indeed!
Love that! Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
You're killin' it, Smalls!
So you’re sayin you want s’more?
Love your videos but I hate live edge anything with all my heart and soul. But, you do you, and keep up the great videos!
Very nice!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Making anything, even joints, harder than they need to be, is just wasting energy on superfluous. I like your presentation style that expresses your opinion without the adamant dictate "this is the [only] way you should do XYZ". Thanks
Cool icon.
Erik Curtis…”The Keyhole Guy” 👁🔑👁
There’s all kinds of holes stronger than people realize for wood holding applications 👀. I’ll show myself out now
I will plead the fifth on this 🤣🤣
I tried an interesting technique shown by Glen from DIY Creators RUclips channel. Maybe not as easy or straightforward as Key Holes, but what he did was create 4 pocket holes, one in each corner of box shelves, that allowed four screws to enter either studs or drywall anchors. I did this, and tested about 150 lbs without any noticable issues, leaving the weight on the wall for 2 days. My shelves now are a place for all my many, many, woodworking magazines, within easy access.
Interesting. Just checked out the video. The logic is certainly sound, and not wholly dissimilar to where I'm coming from with keyholes. I may have to do a head to head test one day.
Thanks for the idea of using key holes for shelves, any particular rule to follow regarding how deep to cut the key hole in relation to the depth of the board?
Not particularly. If it’s wide/heavy, I go as deep as the bit will allow, usually around 1/2” total depth. For a small shelf like this, I don’t worry about it too much. Maybe 1/4” deep?
I like keyholes. I don't get bothered by use this or that, if it works, it works, I move on and happy days.
Precisely. If it works, it works. And it does work!
Beautiful table. Calling it a desk is a stretch.
the mirror tricked me. I thought it’s a doorway before you said it’s a mirror!
Anyone else feeling left out by not getting a "Hello Friends" for an opening. 😉👊
Haha oh hey friend! Sorry to let you down 😂
thanks
You're welcome!
Did you check that corner for square before making the shelf? I only ask that because I install a lot of trim and almost never run into a corner that isn't wildly out of square. I could see a scenario where someone makes a beautiful corner shelf nice and square, and the wall is 10 degrees out.
That is an excellent point. Yes, I did get lucky that the corner is square. I considered covering options for install if not, but wanted to focus more on the keyhole for this video. Could always alter the miter to fit the angle after a dry fit.
FYI. A typical # 10 screw has a sheer strenth of around two grand. The wood would fail long before. Take it easy
Interesting. This is my preferred method for picture frames and I did it once on a hallway coat rack I made for my brother, which is holding up just fine. Do you have a minimum thickness you like to leave to hold the weight for different sized shelves? Don't recall what I did on the coat hanger but don't worry about it so much on picture frames.
I didn’t pay much attention to the depth on this give its size, maybe 1/4” deep or so. But for the liquor bar I sink them as deep as the bit would allow, close to 1/2” total depth, due to the weight. And I’ve used them on coat racks in the past as well. 5 or 6 years later and they’re still perfect.
“ I don’t have a biscuit machine so I’ll use my domino”
Nice flex
😂 I do my best
Nice idea for the skinny live edge scraps. A buddy just forwarded me a link to this. You have a new subsciber. Thank you for the idea. I have a couple spins on this i want to try based off your video. I haven't used keyholes like that before. How deep do you sink those in?
Awesome! Thank you! I don’t pay much attention to the depth on something this small, maybe 1/4” or so. But for heavy objects like the liquor bar I sink them as deep as the bit will allow, maybe 3/8” to 1/2” total depth.
Wainscoating... ugh, but "I'm young and don't have many momentos of a life well lived... yet." Instead, I ridicule lage scale intrest features (wainscoating) in favor of A PIECE OF A F'NG STICK ON A WALL." Please, put this video in a time vault because when you watch it in your sixties, you'll understand why I'm rolling on the floor laughing my ass off. 🤣🤣🤣
It happens to all of us... trust me. Great video. Thank you for this and the other skill building videos you've created!!!
hahaha I didn't realize wainscoting would be so divisive! Glad you enjoyed the video regardless my friend 😂
@ENCurtis Thank YOU for understanding that I greatly appreciate your skill and the knowledge you share. Most of all thanks for understanding my comments are with humor, not malice. Very much enjoying your vids!!a
Hiya. I have a question that you, or one of your viewers, can help me with. You do very good videos, clearly a teacher.
I have a 115 year old mandolin. it has been played over those years. I need to clean it, skin, dirt, all you expect. The back is mahogany and is in pretty good shape. The top of body has finish scratched off, like you see on guitar when no scratch guard. I was going to clean with water, white vinegar, and dish soap (unless someone has better idea). I have fret cleaner for... frets. I was wondering if there is something I should apply to body? I was thinking, typo warning, renaissance wax. Any guidance Wood (ha!) be appreciated
Take it to a violin maker. A GOOD one.
Key holes and French Cleats rule.
So, after mortising for the dominos, you conveniently didn't mention them again. At what point did you realize that dominos perpendicular to the miter cut wouldn't work with the sliding action required for the keyholes? Probably don't need them anyway. In this case a biscuit would have worked (but only glued to one piece or the shelves would never come off again).
Conveniently I pressed the two 45s together simultaneously to get them flush. Conveniently. But yes also a biscuit would have done fine, just as I mentioned in the video.
I was impressed that the corner of the room was actually square allowing the miters to close up. Nicely done🍻
I'm pretty sure I know how he did it, but it would have been nice if he had shown how he fit the domino into that corner. 😞
Same here
I dig it but did you skip over dominos or decide to not use them? I could see lining everything up as a problem
I thought you are using Jason’s hip thrust technique when using the Domino 😂
😂😂 busted
Hello, do you have a video you could link detailing the build of the table at time stamp 6:35? Thanks
Unfortunately I don’t. I made that piece back in 2018 before I began making videos. Though there are a few posts about the process if you scroll WAY back to the very beginning of my Instagram.
with key holes on both sides you just cant use domino just biscuits unless you round one corner of domino
What is your workout routine?
That’s a long, detailed answer in there my dude lol
What happened to the dominoes in the joint?
They are in there. Simply used to keep the miter flush.
Light fixtures are from 1977, you need to upgrade
What's wrong with wainscoting?!
Bahaha nothing at all 😂😂 just not my style
Bro what’s going on with your links?! The insta link says the page has been removed and the Facebook link goes to some chicks page, I think I’m on a government list now 🤣
t was really boring. The explanation was too much. It bores the viewer. The idea is self-explanatory, there was no need to add to the explanation, my friend.
Your comment was boring. There was no need to add your explanation, my friend.
I hope you are not upset. But my friend, your work is very professional, I watch your videos regularly. But accept that too many explanations tire the viewer. Do not forget that those who watch these videos are capable enough and are not ordinary people. Your videos are self-explanatory. Therefore, it does not need much explanation. I like your videos and watch them regularly and recommend them to my friends and they also have the same opinion. I hope you understand the issue. Thankful👍👍@@ENCurtis
@@ENCurtis And your reply was fantastic lol