We are seeing something with some of these mobile QBs they don’t age well ,Cam and Russel became quite un effective when they lose a step or two we never realized how Russel Wilson’s mobility at extending plays helped him out tremendously,.But they both were in Super Bowls and Wilson won one so there’s an upside to it they just don’t play as well as long.
DART looks 6"2" to me but 6'0 " is pretty much as short as you can go...but this guy with the right coach there is no ceiling they couldnt end up reaching.
Abdul Carter at 2. Jaxson Dart at 33. Trade back on pick 2 if worth it. Jalen Milroe if not Dart. I think Dart is just as good as the concensus top 2 and Milroe is not far behind. I would also draft a quarterback late day 3 as a backup/insurance. Cousins/Dart/Kyle McCord plus edge Carter works for me.
@ idk why it’s so hard for the gm to do that ya know. It’s so easy, like just like play calling like I play mad man I mean I it’s not hard to play call place it’s it’s not hard to do this. It’s really not these people get paid so much money and most of the time they’re screwing up teams and the reason that they screw up team just cause they don’t care they’re getting paid regardless they don’t care just like Watson. He didn’t care to come here and play good football. He never he did not wanna come here the second he turned down the first offer they should’ve said all right never mind we could’ve traded two first round pics to get CJ Stroud. I would’ve rather had him and lost all of our pics. We had Baker like they should’ve just left Baker alone. Sad him when he got hurt. Let him heal instead they played him the whole year and destroyed him which they didn’t destroy him because he’s better now than he was which was gonna happen cause he’s a good player. It’s it’s stupid like it’s just stupid. They’re trying so hard to bring in a great black quarterback that they’re screwing up our team they gave away the future for a loser unknownperson that abuses women and they say that they got rid of Baker ‘ cause he wasn’t mature are you kidding me so you pick Watson instead?
For me, a QB has to have 3 things: 1, Processing. Can you read a defense (or can be coached up to be able to read one)? 2. Height. No more short QBs who can't see the field. 6"3' and up are great for me. 3. Mobility. You don't have to be Randall Cunningham or Steve Young out there, but don't let fast NFL defenders beat you into the earth. These are what i would want for a QB.
@@Always_Never Personally for me.. It's Processing, Accuracy and Pocket Awareness. You can have size.. mobility.. throwing strength.. But if you don't have those first three, you will not make it very long in the league as a starter.
The problem with drafting a QB can be what is happening with the Chicago Bears. They have a rookie quarterback in Caleb Williams, the team stinks, and the coach gets fired. Now they have start over again with their quarterback having to learn a new system.
The one thing you like from Dart is that he got better every single year. If the Browns could come out of the draft with Milroe or Dart, I'd be hopeful for the future. And I felt that way before even watching this video. I just like what I see when I watch their tape. I'd watch very closely at the end of the 2nd to trade up, or just wait until the 3rd and take whoever is left. I'm not saying no one else could succeed at QB, I just like those two guys outside of Sanders and Ward. Whom I think are 2nd round picks themselves.
How oftern does drafting a "Project QB" workout? The key is confirming a free agent QB and get better as coaches "coach em up!" Draft Sanders or trade the pick. Would also prefer Winston over To Geno. The Browns could get the best OL, DL, CB in this draft, if they trade the pick.
Define project. Purdy worked out. Cousins was a 3rd round pick. Dak was a 3rd round pick. That's pretty much it, but it does happen. And getting your QB right is essentially the most important thing you can do. So teams will continue to take shots later in the draft. Preferring Winston over Geno is hilarious. Turnovers aren't going to win you any games.
With the #2 pick we either take Carter or trade back for a 1st still within the top 7 land and extra 2nd this year and a 1st next year. Draft BPA at whatever 1st we net for this year. Take Milroe and Henderson with the two seconds we get as well. Then with our later picks we need to address LB and OL as well as adding one more RB like Devin Neal, Kyle Monangai, Raheim Sanders, or Woody Marks.
@@larryambrose2660 Milroe would be very similar as a prospect. I think he's actually faster than Lamar. Lamar has learned how to be a throwing QB though.. Not sure if that will be the same with Milroe. Only time will tell.
The smartest move is to trade the pick. Teams are going to come calling. Especially after Pro days. The Jets, Raiders, and Saints are the most likely callers. If the Cowboys hire Deion then you can throw them in there and that would be a huge haul of picks to go from #2 to #12.
@@otisyoungblood Yep. Hey everyone. QB is next to their name, THEY MUST BE DRAFTED! Don't care who it is! I see QB, I say draft him! That's a really dumb take.
If it were me, I wouldn't take a flyer on any of them except maybe the kid out of Ole Miss.. Something about him says he has a lot of upside, like Baker had coming out of college... Id get him in the 2nd round or trade back up to get him if I absolutely had to... Trade down with the 2nd pick, get a second first rounder if possible, or get extra ammo to trade back in to the first and get 2 first rounders, get Dart and the best available O-lineman and Id be ecstatic with that.
1. Who has the highest completion percentage. 2. Who gets rid of the ball the fastest. 3. Who spread the ball to the most recievers. Those are my criteria
I am becoming comfortable with Milroe as our QB, but we may need to trade back up into 1st to get him. Jeanty at #2 and Milroe at #29. Our offense would be humming.
Milroe isn't starting this year no matter where he goes.. I don't think Milroe will jump from a 3rd rd pick to a 1st rd pick. That's too much draft capital to spend on someone like him. He's a very risky project. Jeanty is nice, but he's not the talent of Carter/Graham/Hunter. Jeanty would be a significant reach.
Next season we find out if Arch Manning can process, but he's been trained to be an NFL QB by 2 HOF QBs since his first spiral. He probably knows more about playing QB than 95% of the QBs in the NFL right now. He has size, he has mobility. Trade down this year, but make sure we get a 1st next year. Most likely the 25 season will produce a top 10 pick, then we have 2 first rounds to trade up for 1st overall, and there's Arch. If we don't get that 2nd first next year, we'd have to trade our only first and Myles for the top pick.
If Arch is going to be as good as everyone seems to think... why would the worst team in the NFL trade down with you for the 1st pick? This is some pie in the sky Madden style thinking.
I like Kyle McCord. He beat Cam Ward. He processes quickly and can throw the ball deep into tight coverage if he's not pressured. Have him in combination with a fixed o-line and run game is a winning recipe. Ask Milroe if he wants to be used as a RB/WR/TE/ backup QB and if he agrees get both of them.
I don't want somebody that didn't do that well this past season I don't care how fast he is. Howard of OSU has his team in the championship game while all these other QBs have their teams watching from the couch and that is what matters most.
Even if there are legitimate reasons why they struggled? A whole new scheme and new coaching? Let me ask you, how many OSU QB's have actually panned out in the NFL that aren't named Stroud? I'll give you the answer.. ZERO. At least since 2001, which as far back as I decided to look. Stop watching OSU games with rose colored glasses. Every player from that school isn't the best player ever.
One thing I don't like about Browns Fans is that they are always trying to find a later round solution at quarterback rather than taking a risk at the top of the draft. The Browns tried that in 2004 when they passed on Ben Roethlisberger, and they have regretted it ever since. If you have a chance to get the best quarterback in the draft, then you have to take it, otherwise another 12 names will be added to the infamous quarterback jersey over the next few years. 40 names are on that jersey already, the Browns must get a quarterback at #2 and end this nightmare.
Which quarterback do you think they should take there? Cause it’s really easy to look from the outside in and say that they should take one, but overdrafting is a thing. It’s good to consider later round players if the top two might not be worth being first round picks, let alone top 2.
@@kvngcam6716 If Cam Ward is on the board at 2, then I would take him, otherwise they should take Shedeur Sanders. I think after the NFL combine and everyone sees these guys throw, there will be a consensus who the Browns should take at quarterback.
@@chromebikerband6875 Tim Couch was the right choice for an expansion team, the Browns made the playoffs in 2002 due to his and backup Kelly Holcomb's play. But injuries derailed his career. Brandon Weeden and Brady Quinn were not the first picks of the Browns draft that year. In the case of Brandon Weeden, the pick ahead of him was running back Trent Richardson who only played one season with the Browns. As for Johnny Manziel he too was the second of the Browns 2 first round picks, and they wasted their first pick on a Cornerback named Justin Gilbert. Justin Gilbert did not even like playing football and was often late to team meetings and he could not even break the starting lineup and he was gone after the first year. The Browns were forced by the owner to draft Johnny Manziel, he was not an NFL quarterback, everyone but the Browns knew that.
Travis Hunter Milroe Henderson It would give us three stars at pivotal positions. Neither of these three have shown what they are truly capable of. For the Cavs, I will do whatever it takes to get Cam Johnson, outside of trading away Mitchell, Mobley, Wade, Allen, Strus, and Jerome. As I mentioned, Oklahoma and Boston have an average height of 6’4 in their starting lineup, and every player can create their shot and knock down the 3. I'd go: Mitchell Jerome Cam Wade Mobley For my starting five. Especially in those matchups.
Jerome!? Oh wow. At least you're reasonable with what it might take to get Cam. Cuz you're not doing it with expiring contracts and 2nd round picks. Also not sure what your infatuation is with Strus.
With lamar it was never that he didn't have the smarts or the processing speed. To make it there you have to have something in your head. It has been developed to where it is today. That is something you teach. And something you have to absorb. Some can some cant
Most teams are committed to young quarterbacks so let the rest reach this year for a quarterback in a weak draft class that way Arch Manning can fall to the Browns next year Browns not winning the Super Bowl next year so draft the best available player this year like Abdul Carter don’t pass up another Myles Garrett for another Mitchell Trubisky
@@tribeofjudah7727 Depends on where you trade back. If you move to 3,6 or 7.. You can still get a guy you covet AND extra draft picks. Assuming the trade down is with a team looking for QB, you still have some very good players on the board that I'd be happy with. Abdul Carter, Mason Graham, Travis Hunter, Ashton Jeanty, Will Johnson and Kelvin Banks. Even moving back to 7 would potentially net you an extra 1st and more.. while still grabbing one of these players. None of these players are pro bowlers yet btw.
I believe that Jalen Milroe is going to be a 1st round pick. His physical talent is just going to be too tantalizing for some team. And the sky is the limit for his ceiling (and the floor is the basement). And honestly, that team might even be the Browns. The Browns have pick #33. It wouldn't surprise me if the Browns traded into the back of the 1st round to draft Milroe and then let him sit this year.
So we are going to draft another guy who is basically watson 2.0 who doesn’t fit the scheme. Makes alot of sense. In my eyes you go will Howard or dart
Every year, since 1995, buy some sports cards of qbs that are projected to go in the third round and beyond. I try to get psa9 or 10 for other card collectors that are wondering. I got to be honest it’s rare you get a hit, but not impossible. I spent about 100 bucks on Brady’s back in the day and now I have a down payment on a new house if I wanted. This year my focus is will Howard. You can probably get him in the forth round too. I already invested 500 into his cards. If I’m right and he’s the next Josh Allen I can have another down payment on a house. If I’m wrong Ohio state qbs already sell decently so it’s a safe investment for me and a safe investment for browns in the forth.
@ no that’s my retirement plan. Try to accumulate millions dollars in cards and then use eBay to sell them as I need extra retirement money. Keep in mind the fringe qb is just outta fun. My main passion is stars and classic cards pre 1930, especially babe Ruth’s. I have event Mickey mantle cars ever made prior to his retirement and psa 6 and better. I plan on buying cards until I retire so every free cent I have I spend. It’s like a 401k except sport cards
What the hell does Lamar faking a handoff well got to do with intelligence we know he’s a great athlete that’s why the play Jay is talking about was so effective because he runs like a deer and the Pittsburgh defense was totally focused on stopping Henry because they don’t think Lamar can beat you throwing the ball.
No one in the league would ever say that Lamar can't beat you throwing the ball. You are living in the past and clearly have no understanding of Lamar's development as a passer. Stay in your lane, you're clearly a very casual football fan.
Milroe was the leading rusher, passer, as well as had 36 total TDs for Alabama this year, had a coaching change, and played a more difficult schedule than Dart. Milroe knows the offense that Rees is installing. Also, going from Saban to Deboer is like the Pats going from Bill to Mayo. Give me Milroe if Ward isn't there. Sanders isn't allowed 2 come to CLE.
I don’t think Lamar processes things that well now he’s just a tremendous athlete,that’s why he wasn’t drafted early nobody wants to say it he’s not very intelligent he supposedly was to dumb to have a play book in high school
You apparently never watch Lamar if you honestly think that. Do yourself a favor and catch some of their games. He's not the same guy any more. He is a very good passing QB. Dude threw for over 4000 yards, 41 TD's / 4 INT.. and 67% completion percentage this year. You are embarrassing yourself.
We are always bragging about Lamar no QB like him has ever won a Superbowl except for a white guy that played similar that would be Elway who won two late in his career and was in 5 Superbowls.The best QB of all time was not mobile that would be Brady neither was Manning he was a statue.The other two top QBs Mahomes and Montana were mobile most people forget that Montana was a great athlete I believe he was San Francisco’s leading rusher when they won their first championship they had a pretty bad offense a good defense but a very mediocre offense.So I don’t think it matters that much but you probably need a pretty good line if the QB isn’t mobile.
Mac jones Better. He was 8th in the nfl in passing last 8 games of the season. He is 13th all time completion percentage ahead of Matt Ryan, Peyton manning and Aaron Rodgers. He has 10,000 fastest to reach 10,000 thru first 3 years since elway. His playoff stats have been better than any QB this year besides Josh allen.
Milroe is not an NFL QB, he just isn't. Poor mechanics, poor accuracy, doesn't see the field, doesn't process. DTR was a better college QB than Milroe.
As someone who recruits people for a living you guys got it wrong. Processing is coaching and understanding what to do and when. That's something the COACHES teach. You cannot teach speed, height, arm strength... You choose those.
You cannot teach a persons ability to understand at an elite level, just like you can't teach being 6'5", 230 lbs and a rocket arm or elite mobility. We are talking about the NFL. Not High School. You could teach a dumb kid to play well if they are big and strong enough to overwhelm the opposition. But in the NFL, everyone is big, strong and fast. Everyone is really smart. No one is going to teach people to become Albert Einstein. You either have it or you don't. I actually feel embarrassed for you to have that mindset, as someone who claims they 'recruit' people for a living. You should be smarter than that.
Commanders went 4-13 last season. Now they are in the NFC Championship Game!! Why? BC THEY FOUND THEIR QB!!! Yeah let’s wait until the middle of the draft and pray to god they hit the jackpot…. DUMMIES. NOBODY ON THIS SHOW TALKED ABOUT JAXON DART ALL YEAR!!! Now he’s the talk of the town…. Embarrassing 🤦🏻♂️
Have you ever considered that Jayden Daniels isn't in the 2025 draft class? Just because you draft a QB with #2 does NOT mean they will be good. It's like you are assuming that they must be just as good as Daniels if we take them. That's nonsense. Use your brain.
I have never heard, singletary Ray Lewis or anybody else that need help on the freaking line to get some tackles, if Myles needs to that much help he's already old
Mac jones Better. He was 8th in the nfl in passing last 8 games of the season. He is 13th all time completion percentage ahead of Matt Ryan, Peyton manning and Aaron Rodgers. He has 10,000 fastest to reach 10,000 thru first 3 years since elway. His playoff stats have been better than any QB this year besides Josh allen.
Yall turned this show into draft scouting channel 😂 trash. It don’t matter who yall pick yall never have the coaches to elevate the players. Myles garret only player I respect from a raven 😈💜🖤🐦⬛
Jaxon Dart is the best Qb in this draft. Browns should try to make that happen, he won't make it out of round 2
Agree 100
I thought the same, Id trade down and get another first rounder and get an O-lineman and Dart and that would be a fantastic start.
That’s who I want as well.
I so enjoyed the begining of the show discussion between G Bush and Dustin.
Processing is by far the most important trait. Qbs of all size and mobility have had success. Qbs that can't Process are 100% a bust
We are seeing something with some of these mobile QBs they don’t age well ,Cam and Russel became quite un effective when they lose a step or two we never realized how Russel Wilson’s mobility at extending plays helped him out tremendously,.But they both were in Super Bowls and Wilson won one so there’s an upside to it they just don’t play as well as long.
Jay, Milroe also had 20 tds on the ground.
Hes awful, did you watch any of his games? He is so inaccurate, no way Im taking him
He might run a 4.4
Seems like he would make a good running back if we used him like Taysom Hill.
@ he fits Stefanski system perfectly lol jk
@ I believe he has the most potential out of this years QBs
I honestly like will Howard needs development but could get him later in the draft
Maybe Cardale Jones is still available too.. NO THANKS!
Risky but intriguing.
@@str33t3r Will Howard is a far superior prospect to Cardale Jones..
Processing makes Purdy a pro bowl player. Processing makes Winston a backup.
DART looks 6"2" to me but 6'0 " is pretty much as short as you can go...but this guy with the right coach there is no ceiling they couldnt end up reaching.
Abdul Carter at 2. Jaxson Dart at 33. Trade back on pick 2 if worth it. Jalen Milroe if not Dart. I think Dart is just as good as the concensus top 2 and Milroe is not far behind. I would also draft a quarterback late day 3 as a backup/insurance. Cousins/Dart/Kyle McCord plus edge Carter works for me.
Do NOT take Sanders or Ward PLEASE take the Edge from Penn State Abdul Carter and then concentrate on trying to draft Will Howard
Absolutey NOT on Milroe !!!
Anyone, but Sanders.
Milroe should probably go back to school.
The best player available that’s how you build a great team you never pick for needs you take the best player on the board at that moment
concur!!
@ idk why it’s so hard for the gm to do that ya know. It’s so easy, like just like play calling like I play mad man I mean I it’s not hard to play call place it’s it’s not hard to do this. It’s really not these people get paid so much money and most of the time they’re screwing up teams and the reason that they screw up team just cause they don’t care they’re getting paid regardless they don’t care just like Watson. He didn’t care to come here and play good football. He never he did not wanna come here the second he turned down the first offer they should’ve said all right never mind we could’ve traded two first round pics to get CJ Stroud. I would’ve rather had him and lost all of our pics. We had Baker like they should’ve just left Baker alone. Sad him when he got hurt. Let him heal instead they played him the whole year and destroyed him which they didn’t destroy him because he’s better now than he was which was gonna happen cause he’s a good player. It’s it’s stupid like it’s just stupid. They’re trying so hard to bring in a great black quarterback that they’re screwing up our team they gave away the future for a loser unknownperson that abuses women and they say that they got rid of Baker ‘ cause he wasn’t mature are you kidding me so you pick Watson instead?
Stop thinking the number 2 pick is the only pick we have. We have the first pick in the second round! Plus potentially 9 more picks
Which is why they were talking about Day2/3 QB's...
For me, a QB has to have 3 things: 1, Processing. Can you read a defense (or can be coached up to be able to read one)? 2. Height. No more short QBs who can't see the field. 6"3' and up are great for me. 3. Mobility. You don't have to be Randall Cunningham or Steve Young out there, but don't let fast NFL defenders beat you into the earth. These are what i would want for a QB.
What about accuracy and arm strength lol those are major ones up there with ability to process quickly
@@Always_Never Personally for me.. It's Processing, Accuracy and Pocket Awareness. You can have size.. mobility.. throwing strength.. But if you don't have those first three, you will not make it very long in the league as a starter.
The problem with drafting a QB can be what is happening with the Chicago Bears. They have a rookie quarterback in Caleb Williams, the team stinks, and the coach gets fired. Now they have start over again with their quarterback having to learn a new system.
The one thing you like from Dart is that he got better every single year. If the Browns could come out of the draft with Milroe or Dart, I'd be hopeful for the future. And I felt that way before even watching this video. I just like what I see when I watch their tape. I'd watch very closely at the end of the 2nd to trade up, or just wait until the 3rd and take whoever is left. I'm not saying no one else could succeed at QB, I just like those two guys outside of Sanders and Ward. Whom I think are 2nd round picks themselves.
I turned off after, "this could be the most important draft in Cleveland Browns history"
The most important draft was the first draft when they came back in '99. They didn't do it right and have been a bad team ever since.
10-11 draft picks this year it pretty important and we were 3-14 last year gotta hit to save Stefanski job
@@GRASSNBASS Half of those picks are 6th and 7th rounders. Most of those players won't be on the team in 2-3 years.
@@brandonerwin7031 I can’t disagree I have ZERO faith in Depo, AB Stefanski drafting and developing players
How oftern does drafting a "Project QB" workout? The key is confirming a free agent QB and get better as coaches "coach em up!" Draft Sanders or trade the pick. Would also prefer Winston over To Geno. The Browns could get the best OL, DL, CB in this draft, if they trade the pick.
Define project.
Purdy worked out. Cousins was a 3rd round pick. Dak was a 3rd round pick.
That's pretty much it, but it does happen. And getting your QB right is essentially the most important thing you can do. So teams will continue to take shots later in the draft.
Preferring Winston over Geno is hilarious. Turnovers aren't going to win you any games.
With the #2 pick we either take Carter or trade back for a 1st still within the top 7 land and extra 2nd this year and a 1st next year.
Draft BPA at whatever 1st we net for this year. Take Milroe and Henderson with the two seconds we get as well. Then with our later picks we need to address LB and OL as well as adding one more RB like Devin Neal, Kyle Monangai, Raheim Sanders, or Woody Marks.
Have ANY of you ever heard of WILL HOWARD??????? Plays for THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY.
Figured all you gurus would have maybe seen him play...
Mobility makes you good enough out the gate to develop processing
I think with Jackson it is other teams being scared of his running ability.
@@larryambrose2660 Milroe would be very similar as a prospect. I think he's actually faster than Lamar. Lamar has learned how to be a throwing QB though.. Not sure if that will be the same with Milroe. Only time will tell.
The smartest move is to trade the pick. Teams are going to come calling. Especially after Pro days. The Jets, Raiders, and Saints are the most likely callers. If the Cowboys hire Deion then you can throw them in there and that would be a huge haul of picks to go from #2 to #12.
Nope take a QB we need a QB
@@otisyoungblood Yep. Hey everyone. QB is next to their name, THEY MUST BE DRAFTED! Don't care who it is! I see QB, I say draft him!
That's a really dumb take.
Joe Milton from Patriots
Pats ain't giving him up. He could potentially be their starter the way he played against the Bills.
Why, because he played one average game?
@@brandonerwin7031 He looked ridiculous in that game. Evading sacks like Houdini and throwing lasers down the field into tight coverage.
I want Howard in the 2nd
Too high
@Yaboifitz7714 maybe
He'll probably be a 4th round pick. This selection would get you fired.
Grab Geno Smith in F A. Take Carter, Hunter, or Graham with #2 pick, and grab Dart in the 2nd round if he's still there.
Dustin right on about the QB for the Browns
We should grab Travis Hunter with our first pick , and then find a way to get Will Howard and Jack Sawyer with our other picks
3 busts
abdul cater with 1st
Only thing I’d change is to pick Abdul first
We don't need a corner who we won't know how to use on offense at #2. Thats not how to turn things around
My order goes like this.
Carter
Graham
Jeanty
They have more desperate needs at those positions than they do at WR or CB.
Lamar = Baker
Dart at #2
Agree 100
And that's why you guys would be fired as a GM.
If it were me, I wouldn't take a flyer on any of them except maybe the kid out of Ole Miss.. Something about him says he has a lot of upside, like Baker had coming out of college... Id get him in the 2nd round or trade back up to get him if I absolutely had to... Trade down with the 2nd pick, get a second first rounder if possible, or get extra ammo to trade back in to the first and get 2 first rounders, get Dart and the best available O-lineman and Id be ecstatic with that.
Height 6'5," weight 230lbs, NFL arm, mobile, multiple offenses played in and starts in college. Tyler Shough Louisville QB.
1. Who has the highest completion percentage.
2. Who gets rid of the ball the fastest.
3. Who spread the ball to the most recievers.
Those are my criteria
Sounds like Colt McCoy to me.
@brandonerwin7031 and did Colt ever play for stefanski? Cause thats what stefanski needs.
Problem is they split those criteria. Sanders has the best % by far, but Ward gets it out a bit faste rand and the third point is at tie.
Carter is the only choice they shld make then I'll take Dart in the 2nd. Give Garrett some help he deserves it!! Especially if he sticks around
Will Howard
The answer to the caption is Will Howard
I am becoming comfortable with Milroe as our QB, but we may need to trade back up into 1st to get him. Jeanty at #2 and Milroe at #29. Our offense would be humming.
Milroe isn't starting this year no matter where he goes..
I don't think Milroe will jump from a 3rd rd pick to a 1st rd pick. That's too much draft capital to spend on someone like him. He's a very risky project.
Jeanty is nice, but he's not the talent of Carter/Graham/Hunter. Jeanty would be a significant reach.
Next season we find out if Arch Manning can process, but he's been trained to be an NFL QB by 2 HOF QBs since his first spiral. He probably knows more about playing QB than 95% of the QBs in the NFL right now. He has size, he has mobility. Trade down this year, but make sure we get a 1st next year. Most likely the 25 season will produce a top 10 pick, then we have 2 first rounds to trade up for 1st overall, and there's Arch. If we don't get that 2nd first next year, we'd have to trade our only first and Myles for the top pick.
If Arch is going to be as good as everyone seems to think... why would the worst team in the NFL trade down with you for the 1st pick?
This is some pie in the sky Madden style thinking.
I like Kyle McCord. He beat Cam Ward. He processes quickly and can throw the ball deep into tight coverage if he's not pressured. Have him in combination with a fixed o-line and run game is a winning recipe. Ask Milroe if he wants to be used as a RB/WR/TE/ backup QB and if he agrees get both of them.
His team beat Cam Wards team. This isn't a 1 on 1 matchup.
I don't want somebody that didn't do that well this past season I don't care how fast he is. Howard of OSU has his team in the championship game while all these other QBs have their teams watching from the couch and that is what matters most.
Even if there are legitimate reasons why they struggled? A whole new scheme and new coaching?
Let me ask you, how many OSU QB's have actually panned out in the NFL that aren't named Stroud? I'll give you the answer.. ZERO. At least since 2001, which as far back as I decided to look. Stop watching OSU games with rose colored glasses. Every player from that school isn't the best player ever.
One thing I don't like about Browns Fans is that they are always trying to find a later round solution at quarterback rather than taking a risk at the top of the draft. The Browns tried that in 2004 when they passed on Ben Roethlisberger, and they have regretted it ever since. If you have a chance to get the best quarterback in the draft, then you have to take it, otherwise another 12 names will be added to the infamous quarterback jersey over the next few years. 40 names are on that jersey already, the Browns must get a quarterback at #2 and end this nightmare.
Which quarterback do you think they should take there? Cause it’s really easy to look from the outside in and say that they should take one, but overdrafting is a thing. It’s good to consider later round players if the top two might not be worth being first round picks, let alone top 2.
@@kvngcam6716 If Cam Ward is on the board at 2, then I would take him, otherwise they should take Shedeur Sanders. I think after the NFL combine and everyone sees these guys throw, there will be a consensus who the Browns should take at quarterback.
HMMMM mike phipps , tim couch, brady quinn, brandon weeden, johnny manziel ...proves u wrong
@@chromebikerband6875 Tim Couch was the right choice for an expansion team, the Browns made the playoffs in 2002 due to his and backup Kelly Holcomb's play. But injuries derailed his career. Brandon Weeden and Brady Quinn were not the first picks of the Browns draft that year. In the case of Brandon Weeden, the pick ahead of him was running back Trent Richardson who only played one season with the Browns. As for Johnny Manziel he too was the second of the Browns 2 first round picks, and they wasted their first pick on a Cornerback named Justin Gilbert. Justin Gilbert did not even like playing football and was often late to team meetings and he could not even break the starting lineup and he was gone after the first year. The Browns were forced by the owner to draft Johnny Manziel, he was not an NFL quarterback, everyone but the Browns knew that.
100!!!!!@@StevenC32
Travis Hunter
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It would give us three stars at pivotal positions. Neither of these three have shown what they are truly capable of.
For the Cavs, I will do whatever it takes to get Cam Johnson, outside of trading away Mitchell, Mobley, Wade, Allen, Strus, and Jerome. As I mentioned, Oklahoma and Boston have an average height of 6’4 in their starting lineup, and every player can create their shot and knock down the 3. I'd go:
Mitchell
Jerome
Cam
Wade
Mobley
For my starting five. Especially in those matchups.
Bro you trippin Garland is balling and Struss can go!!!!
@@BigJ-Bone1800Iverson balled but didn't win a championship. Garland isn't as close to a player as he was. He doesn't fit. Mark my words.
Jerome!? Oh wow.
At least you're reasonable with what it might take to get Cam. Cuz you're not doing it with expiring contracts and 2nd round picks.
Also not sure what your infatuation is with Strus.
With lamar it was never that he didn't have the smarts or the processing speed. To make it there you have to have something in your head. It has been developed to where it is today. That is something you teach. And something you have to absorb. Some can some cant
Most teams are committed to young quarterbacks so let the rest reach this year for a quarterback in a weak draft class that way Arch Manning can fall to the Browns next year Browns not winning the Super Bowl next year so draft the best available player this year like Abdul Carter don’t pass up another Myles Garrett for another Mitchell Trubisky
And enough of this trading back garbage patriots always traded back to get benched players while pro bowlers were there for the taking
@@tribeofjudah7727 Depends on where you trade back. If you move to 3,6 or 7.. You can still get a guy you covet AND extra draft picks.
Assuming the trade down is with a team looking for QB, you still have some very good players on the board that I'd be happy with. Abdul Carter, Mason Graham, Travis Hunter, Ashton Jeanty, Will Johnson and Kelvin Banks. Even moving back to 7 would potentially net you an extra 1st and more.. while still grabbing one of these players.
None of these players are pro bowlers yet btw.
I believe that Jalen Milroe is going to be a 1st round pick. His physical talent is just going to be too tantalizing for some team. And the sky is the limit for his ceiling (and the floor is the basement). And honestly, that team might even be the Browns. The Browns have pick #33. It wouldn't surprise me if the Browns traded into the back of the 1st round to draft Milroe and then let him sit this year.
Will Howard is the only proper answer
2:54 it devolving not evolving
No one cares. You apparently understood and they aren't going to read this.
@ you did
Did I just hear Geno Smith? OMFG!! JD5 just did more in 1 season than Geno has done in 11 years!! Get outta here.
That's wildly inaccurate.
What does Daniels have to do with Geno?
When evaluating Howard, if you use only the tape from tOSU and not the K State film too, Your half assssing it.
Milroe is AR5 v2.0. Athletic freak with shotgun accuracy.
@moltenmetal5645 He's not accurate.
@@justinedse8435 That's what 'shotgun' accuracy means in this context.
Will Howard 6'4" 235
Lamar the Great high Football IQ is unmatched.
How many 1st round Browns QB have been a bust😢😢
A lot of those. And the vast majority of them have been at the bottom of the 1st. To their credit, they haven't drafted many top 10 QB's.
So we are going to draft another guy who is basically watson 2.0 who doesn’t fit the scheme. Makes alot of sense. In my eyes you go will Howard or dart
Are you talking about Milroe? I sure how not.
They are NOTHING alike.
The SEC is NOT the toughest conference 🤷
Every year, since 1995, buy some sports cards of qbs that are projected to go in the third round and beyond. I try to get psa9 or 10 for other card collectors that are wondering. I got to be honest it’s rare you get a hit, but not impossible. I spent about 100 bucks on Brady’s back in the day and now I have a down payment on a new house if I wanted. This year my focus is will Howard. You can probably get him in the forth round too. I already invested 500 into his cards. If I’m right and he’s the next Josh Allen I can have another down payment on a house. If I’m wrong Ohio state qbs already sell decently so it’s a safe investment for me and a safe investment for browns in the forth.
Hope you have an investment back up plan
@ no that’s my retirement plan. Try to accumulate millions dollars in cards and then use eBay to sell them as I need extra retirement money. Keep in mind the fringe qb is just outta fun. My main passion is stars and classic cards pre 1930, especially babe Ruth’s. I have event Mickey mantle cars ever made prior to his retirement and psa 6 and better. I plan on buying cards until I retire so every free cent I have I spend. It’s like a 401k except sport cards
@@goldeneye9859 must be nice
Neither had intensity, the drive to win, toughness, and arm strength is lacking for a #1 or #2. It’s a bad class
What the hell does Lamar faking a handoff well got to do with intelligence we know he’s a great athlete that’s why the play Jay is talking about was so effective because he runs like a deer and the Pittsburgh defense was totally focused on stopping Henry because they don’t think Lamar can beat you throwing the ball.
No one in the league would ever say that Lamar can't beat you throwing the ball. You are living in the past and clearly have no understanding of Lamar's development as a passer. Stay in your lane, you're clearly a very casual football fan.
Milroe was the leading rusher, passer, as well as had 36 total TDs for Alabama this year, had a coaching change, and played a more difficult schedule than Dart. Milroe knows the offense that Rees is installing. Also, going from Saban to Deboer is like the Pats going from Bill to Mayo. Give me Milroe if Ward isn't there. Sanders isn't allowed 2 come to CLE.
I don’t think Lamar processes things that well now he’s just a tremendous athlete,that’s why he wasn’t drafted early nobody wants to say it he’s not very intelligent he supposedly was to dumb to have a play book in high school
You apparently never watch Lamar if you honestly think that. Do yourself a favor and catch some of their games. He's not the same guy any more. He is a very good passing QB.
Dude threw for over 4000 yards, 41 TD's / 4 INT.. and 67% completion percentage this year.
You are embarrassing yourself.
Steelers will take Dart in 1st
That would be pretty shocking..
We are always bragging about Lamar no QB like him has ever won a Superbowl except for a white guy that played similar that would be Elway who won two late in his career and was in 5 Superbowls.The best QB of all time was not mobile that would be Brady neither was Manning he was a statue.The other two top QBs Mahomes and Montana were mobile most people forget that Montana was a great athlete I believe he was San Francisco’s leading rusher when they won their first championship they had a pretty bad offense a good defense but a very mediocre offense.So I don’t think it matters that much but you probably need a pretty good line if the QB isn’t mobile.
This guy jay should leave the show
If CLE has Burrow, do we win ths superbowl with the current roster?
Maybe not, but we'd be in playoff contention.
Highly doubt it.
Geno would be the best of the bridge QB's.
Mac jones Better. He was 8th in the nfl in passing last 8 games of the season. He is 13th all time completion percentage ahead of Matt Ryan, Peyton manning and Aaron Rodgers. He has 10,000 fastest to reach 10,000 thru first 3 years since elway. His playoff stats have been better than any QB this year besides Josh allen.
Jaxson Dart. Best qb in draft.
Milroe is not an NFL QB, he just isn't. Poor mechanics, poor accuracy, doesn't see the field, doesn't process. DTR was a better college QB than Milroe.
Yeah but what if you used him like Taysom Hill or Deebo Samuel?
What if deion doesn't want him to go to Cleveland but shadeur disagrees and wants to come what then
Your show should not allow Tavis, G Bush or anyone else to wear a racist, offensive character emblem on their hat. .You are all responsible!
Yeah let’s wait around and hope nobody takes Milroe or whoever else…… dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
More listening.
Less talking.
You get that advice for free.
As someone who recruits people for a living you guys got it wrong. Processing is coaching and understanding what to do and when. That's something the COACHES teach. You cannot teach speed, height, arm strength... You choose those.
You cannot teach a persons ability to understand at an elite level, just like you can't teach being 6'5", 230 lbs and a rocket arm or elite mobility.
We are talking about the NFL. Not High School. You could teach a dumb kid to play well if they are big and strong enough to overwhelm the opposition. But in the NFL, everyone is big, strong and fast. Everyone is really smart.
No one is going to teach people to become Albert Einstein. You either have it or you don't. I actually feel embarrassed for you to have that mindset, as someone who claims they 'recruit' people for a living. You should be smarter than that.
Commanders went 4-13 last season. Now they are in the NFC Championship Game!! Why? BC THEY FOUND THEIR QB!!! Yeah let’s wait until the middle of the draft and pray to god they hit the jackpot…. DUMMIES. NOBODY ON THIS SHOW TALKED ABOUT JAXON DART ALL YEAR!!! Now he’s the talk of the town…. Embarrassing 🤦🏻♂️
Have you ever considered that Jayden Daniels isn't in the 2025 draft class?
Just because you draft a QB with #2 does NOT mean they will be good. It's like you are assuming that they must be just as good as Daniels if we take them. That's nonsense.
Use your brain.
I have never heard, singletary Ray Lewis or anybody else that need help on the freaking line to get some tackles, if Myles needs to that much help he's already old
What?
Are you implying Garrett can do everything alone?
Mac jones Better. He was 8th in the nfl in passing last 8 games of the season. He is 13th all time completion percentage ahead of Matt Ryan, Peyton manning and Aaron Rodgers. He has 10,000 fastest to reach 10,000 thru first 3 years since elway. His playoff stats have been better than any QB this year besides Josh allen.
You must be joking.
@ not really I truly think
Him Trask and fields are our best options
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Yall turned this show into draft scouting channel 😂 trash. It don’t matter who yall pick yall never have the coaches to elevate the players. Myles garret only player I respect from a raven 😈💜🖤🐦⬛
Milroe‼️…no-way…maybe 3rd round or up. TAKE the sure thing, its HUNTER!!!…what is wrong w everyone-TAKE sure thing my lord
Blah, blah, blah! Same old BS!! Go Cavs!!
So the cavs should trade away depth? Your worst take ever Dustin and I'm a big fan.
To be fair.. they have a LOT of depth.