for those wondering, you don't have to upgrade vicious strikes completely, the ratio on them are a 1:1, 2 upgrades to vicious(like 60k gold) will provide 750 range units, which will cap it, no need to spend the 2 million gold!
@@MrJuicebags I've been loving these reflect builds when I have all my gear but I've been trying to think of a good minimalist and cheap build for muscling through resets. so far it looks like earthshatter + pdt will be my best bet although I hear some people just spam pdt.
Thx very much. Tried the builds, saved me millions of headaches in lost temples (especially when it's lagging as hell with too much combos on PS4). Really hope CG doesn't nerf it.
it worked still but u need to Change tenacity with diverse Power servo since they reduce the damage -80% just Go One reflect in front with automation for cyborg protection
Not a bad thought at all you should do that! I personally will probably remove earth from protons for something else. 5m tier 1 dps from a PDT is just too strong to give up!
so poison + defense rate + tenacity on reflect beam as mods and earth + defense rate + crowd control as mods on proton beam with the mentioned shards in the video = Wait was enemies suppose to spawn? I don't see any....
Vicious and Mass on the one defense is a paradigm shift for me as it would cripple both my wm's and fa's. Hmm swapping out Tenacity for Range on my wm's and using Vamp instead of Mass on my fa's is about the best I could do but those reflects sure do look tempting. It's all irrelevant for me atm anyway, I haven't been chasing that Torpedo Shard for the past couple of weeks lol.
the only downside to this defense is lack of range. it does way more aoe damage than wm or fa so makes them redundant unless you needed the extra range. I think a great combo is earth reflect + poison protons which will give you a very precise area that will petrify enemies then throw an explosive trap in that area -- another great defense whose only weakness is lack of range, but is irrelevant in this combo. I threw a slowing boost aura in there and it killed everything including bosses with everything at tier 1 in mastery. I just went and easily got my destructive pylon mastery shard thanks to how effective this combo was. If you'd rather have the extra slow and stun from oil geyser that should be great too. Explosive trap or oil geyser are definitely where my destructive pylon is going.
@@barfy362 I agree about the reflect plus protons, it seems to be the best direction although Vicious and gilded Deadly on Wm has been my go-to bird defense for a long time as well as in the lanes but I am getting close to hitting a wall in Os. I'm almost all the way in for changing my builds, Thanks.
Fantastic video and this build will crush most lanes but my struggle is with flyers any suggestions, for kamikazes I put a obelisk down to bait them but I was curious what you do for most flyers
@Bruce Wayne it kinda does my issue seems to be a lack of damage I guess I try to spawn camp them with auras but they don't die fast enough so probably just DMG issue but I've been using PDT with serpent for cc which seems to be ok but it's expensive du wise
Reflect is a great anti-air , (add to that anti-air flame and wm) will work until 945 For kaze -> Bait obelisk or bait frosty (945- you can just kill them instead)
what advice or build would you recommand/advise for people who dont have mods on 10/10 or gilded shards is there a good way to farm gold? without selling stuff to other players?
there is no secret to farming gold. the best way is playing c7 expeditions with multiple players. I'd recommend selling materials like mod reroll tokens or c7 amps since they will always sell fast if you don't get greedy with your pricing.
they made it so shocking revelations counts as an elemental mod, so you will have to use the water elemental shard and then instead of the water mod you would use a defence rate mod
Hmmm.... Shattering torpedo (earth dmg SHARD) + new defense poison MOD = self proccing reflect beams! BAM! DONE! No need for PDT. So save 40 DU there! :-)
late reply but tenacity is there to prevent the reflect beams from being disabled by cyborks, if it doesn't have tenacity, it'll be disabled along with everything behind it, but if you DO have tenacity, it will actually reflect the emp blast given by cyborks away from everything
@@bakugo0101 Poison servo is invalid on reflect beam. I even made a c8 relic for it 10/10 tenacity before I realised it haha xD Just the way CG made it
for those wondering, you don't have to upgrade vicious strikes completely, the ratio on them are a 1:1, 2 upgrades to vicious(like 60k gold) will provide 750 range units, which will cap it, no need to spend the 2 million gold!
Was hesitant to use the build until I see your comment, best thing I've seen today!
unfortunately you will still need to use a c8 amp to get this to 100% tenacity, which is not something I'm willing to do if I'm doing chain resets.
@@barfy362 Ya this is for high onslaught, not for resets for sure.
@@MrJuicebags I've been loving these reflect builds when I have all my gear but I've been trying to think of a good minimalist and cheap build for muscling through resets. so far it looks like earthshatter + pdt will be my best bet although I hear some people just spam pdt.
@@barfy362 I used Campaign level weapon mans and PDT's with whatever the best thing I found on the ground was. Worked great!
Shhh, don't tell them, they'll nerf it! ;P
Nice spin on the reflect build ! =)
Thx very much. Tried the builds, saved me millions of headaches in lost temples (especially when it's lagging as hell with too much combos on PS4). Really hope CG doesn't nerf it.
This is sure they will nerfed it how all in this game
Chromatic games bumbling idiocy got ya down 😄, Juice is here with Cure! Awesomely as always man!
Nice little bug at 10:12 "Gray - Summoned by ___ Tier 0"
it worked still but u need to Change tenacity with diverse Power servo since they reduce the damage -80% just Go One reflect in front with automation for cyborg protection
Have you considered switching the Earth mod on the proton beam to the new Poison Servo? Removes the need for the PDT and lowers the overall DU
Yeah beacuse of shattering torpedoes!
Not a bad thought at all you should do that! I personally will probably remove earth from protons for something else. 5m tier 1 dps from a PDT is just too strong to give up!
My frenchie climbing to the top! 😊
so poison + defense rate + tenacity on reflect beam as mods and earth + defense rate + crowd control as mods on proton beam with the mentioned shards in the video =
Wait was enemies suppose to spawn? I don't see any....
I love your videos!
Vicious and Mass on the one defense is a paradigm shift for me as it would cripple both my wm's and fa's. Hmm swapping out Tenacity for Range on my wm's and using Vamp instead of Mass on my fa's is about the best I could do but those reflects sure do look tempting. It's all irrelevant for me atm anyway, I haven't been chasing that Torpedo Shard for the past couple of weeks lol.
the only downside to this defense is lack of range. it does way more aoe damage than wm or fa so makes them redundant unless you needed the extra range. I think a great combo is earth reflect + poison protons which will give you a very precise area that will petrify enemies then throw an explosive trap in that area -- another great defense whose only weakness is lack of range, but is irrelevant in this combo. I threw a slowing boost aura in there and it killed everything including bosses with everything at tier 1 in mastery. I just went and easily got my destructive pylon mastery shard thanks to how effective this combo was. If you'd rather have the extra slow and stun from oil geyser that should be great too. Explosive trap or oil geyser are definitely where my destructive pylon is going.
@@barfy362 I agree about the reflect plus protons, it seems to be the best direction although Vicious and gilded Deadly on Wm has been my go-to bird defense for a long time as well as in the lanes but I am getting close to hitting a wall in Os. I'm almost all the way in for changing my builds, Thanks.
Man if there's a shortlist of the crappiest C8 shards I'm on the way to gilding the lot.
It really hurts when you have all the things for the build except for tenacity
Fantastic video and this build will crush most lanes but my struggle is with flyers any suggestions, for kamikazes I put a obelisk down to bait them but I was curious what you do for most flyers
@Bruce Wayne it kinda does my issue seems to be a lack of damage I guess I try to spawn camp them with auras but they don't die fast enough so probably just DMG issue but I've been using PDT with serpent for cc which seems to be ok but it's expensive du wise
Reflect is a great anti-air , (add to that anti-air flame and wm) will work until 945 For kaze -> Bait obelisk or bait frosty (945- you can just kill them instead)
Did I miss something? When I place mine it only sends 1 orb at a time until it reaches the end but his sent like 4
Same any answers ?
Just wait for them lol
what advice or build would you recommand/advise for people who dont have mods on 10/10 or gilded shards
is there a good way to farm gold? without selling stuff to other players?
there is no secret to farming gold. the best way is playing c7 expeditions with multiple players. I'd recommend selling materials like mod reroll tokens or c7 amps since they will always sell fast if you don't get greedy with your pricing.
would a 9/10 tenacity work?
no, you need level 10 then you upgrade it to c8 wioth an amp and you get 100% so cyborgs don't work on them
use automation
There is a c8 shard that increases the explosion range....will that shard (gilded or not) cap the range?
Sadly that and deadly strikes combined wont cap it, it just scales really well with Vicious
Do you also need Tenacity on the LSA, proton, and boost aura?
No the reflect protects them all.
Cheers juice 👍🏻
Any1 know why i cant mod relic with Shocking revelation + water servo? For manufacture? Like this @t
they made it so shocking revelations counts as an elemental mod, so you will have to use the water elemental shard and then instead of the water mod you would use a defence rate mod
Is torpedo striker c8 shard good or should I just sell it
Junk :(
Hmmm.... Shattering torpedo (earth dmg SHARD) + new defense poison MOD = self proccing reflect beams! BAM! DONE! No need for PDT. So save 40 DU there! :-)
Poison doesn't work on reflects :(
MrJuicebags Sad day! Do you know if that’s intentional or a bug?
so after all this i still dont get it why do you HAVE yo have tenacity?
late reply but tenacity is there to prevent the reflect beams from being disabled by cyborks, if it doesn't have tenacity, it'll be disabled along with everything behind it, but if you DO have tenacity, it will actually reflect the emp blast given by cyborks away from everything
Nicceee
So can you put a poison servo on it to do the combo itself?
Doesn't work
@@ClasslessAscension but why?
@@bakugo0101 Poison servo is invalid on reflect beam. I even made a c8 relic for it 10/10 tenacity before I realised it haha xD
Just the way CG made it
@@ClasslessAscension Yeah I tried it too. Guess this game is done with these stupid updates
Unnerf the taunt you DD 2 nerds!!!
15:30 why monters transform into stone
The Petrify combo.
@@MrJuicebags i hope they undo that change soon i went right to twitter and told them my thoughts after your video
Show.
Does this work as good still?
weapon mans in a nutshell (i rather use weapon mans)
Evan Dundys these do far more damage, are cheaper, and weapon mans recently lost the ability to stack water servo + shocking rev
@@nabu9902 water shard + shocking works
Sure is, Stupid Trendy Entertaiment nerfed this how all in this game.