Honda Odyssey Engine Swap Runs! 800cc 2 Stroke
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Our 800cc engine swapped Honda Odyssey FL350r runs for the first time! In this episode we build a custom gas tank, clean the hand controls, plumb the radiator, and get her running for the first time!
Thanks for watching !
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WaywardWest - Generation Blues EP
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Akina Boy - You Are Fine
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Hey guys, I'd like to give you some PRO tips on the aluminum tank.
Unless you're welding both sides of the aluminum, you should never grind an aluminum weld, they are not strong enough.
You need to weld in bulkheads to give the tank internal support and control fuel slosh which can actually blow an end out just from the fuel weight.
Make sure you add a rollover valve/vent with a loop in the tube.
That tank will never need to hold 100 psi. Anything over about 15 is more than good enough. Radiator tanks are only good to 20 or so in general and under pressure all the time. 100psi is a shit ton of pressure for any kind of welded assembly to hold, especially an aluminum one.
Ill further this, use TIG on fuel cells, it's almost all open corners, which are easy to TIG. You'll have more luck. I've welded the stuff using push pull guns, spool guns, pulse and TIG. Spool guns are made for high production, low quality. They are affordable, but not very versatile (you need 65cfh of pure argon as well, only 12 to 17 with TIG). Your material needs to be almost food grade clean to guarantee a seal on the first pass.
Do you mean weld in some baffle plates, not bulkheads?
@@ragedigital I use the term "bulkhead" because most people understand a bulkhead encompasses or partitions if you will one section from another. A baffle doesn't necessarily have to touch all sides. Of course said bulkhead needs to have provisions(holes) for fuel to transfer and or equalize in a slower fashion than without but also hep keep a reserve of fuel at the pickup point.
@@AZBADBOYz the inside of an engine sump is usually designed like this to prevent oil starvation too I believe
"There's plenty of ways I don't mind dying, in a raging inferno however... is not one of them" haha, I hear ya.
just cut the tank 3 inches all directions and rubber mount it! and add ribs to the surface, so it has some strength.
I like to pressure test my tanks, and go over them with soapy water, just a regulator set to low, don't seal it to tight just so it will hold one psi, your tank needs to be vented anyway, you can do it I have faith.
I agree. You don't need a lot of pressure to test a gas tank after welding. I used to test mine at 5psi. 10psi *MAX* because they will distort. A gas tank in the sun will probably never experience more than 1-2psi internal pressure.
So @grindhardplumbing if your tank can hold 5 psi, and it's strong enough to hold up to the vibration, you're good! 💪👌
@@AddictedtoProjects i'd still rubber mount the thing and make something to hold it up from underneath.
When you think about it, the force that only 1 psi will put on a large surface is quite impressive. The bottom part of that tank looked like a surface of about 12x30" which is 360 square inches. That means for each psi, they add 360 pounds of force on those seams.
@@comethiburs2326 yeah thats what i thought when watching the video. it needs ribs to strengthen it, a mount in the middle at the bottom, and all mounts need to be rubber. wouldnt hurt to make some baffles internally to stop fuel slopping around either. just some mesh or plates with holes. also having the bottom sloped down to the lowest point for the fuel would be best.
Slow-mo welding with your music? Hell yeah! Too bad about the tank btw
Do not smoke before^^
It would be the perfect thing to put on while sleeping
Johan Gavelin over half of the viewers will turn you off for playing music of any kind, way over half (myself included) turn the sound off to watch you ruin the gas tank! 1% of the viewers will like that music! Yep, I just scanned the comments and my % prediction is correct, you’re always going to pickup a few gay viewers 🤣 just kidding
It takes a certain level of humility to admit defeat after investing all that time. I respect that. Definitely my favorite RUclips channel. Music was great this time. Looking forward to seeing the Odyssey rip!
ikr, it would have been hard to do. sooo much work, time and effort. the dude knows his stuff, and that includes knowing when something isnt working.
(although, from other comments, that tank was pretty near good enough, and with more reinforcing, ribs to strengthen it, center mount at bottom, all rubber mountings, plates with holes inside tank to stop sloshing, and a breather hose fitted to the cap (preferably strong meshed hose routed away from exhaust) it would have been more that enough. general consensus is 100psi will never be encountered, more like 3-5psi max.. but with it that close to exhaust cant blame him for wanting it overbuilt. a raging inferno certainly doesnt sound like fun to me either..)
I love how you guys do a lot of stuff with big two stoke motors. Lots of torque and HP. Anything worth doing is worth overdoing. Especially when It comes to HP. Keep up the good work. Thanks for sharing👍
Heck yeah I would watch it
love the new music boys! keep up the good work
Yup
NEXT PROJECT.
With your leftover snowmobile tracks you should build a mini ripsaw tracked vehicle
Absolutely agree!!
Tracks for the Odyssey??🤔
I mean, that seems obvious at some point. 😂
Grind Hard Plumbing Co I have 4 INDY 500s thinking of making a dual tracked VEHICAL, and I mentioned I a previous comment, I to have the same model Honda odessey. going to put one of the INDY 500 on it, when you were building your gas tank I was thinking small fuel cell, for safety sake.... look in to finding a trisport ALSPORT RTs 340.. I have one I'm sticking one of the other INDY 500s I installed a cb350 Honda engine on my first one
wildest trike you'll ever build . has a differential, installed 7 inch disc brakes for left n right steering assist.. back in 1974....would rather do a do over with another 350 Honda build ... could use a 600 Honda engine I have, but the 100 up is a bit much....but know this I love to watch your videos, might be time to build a sheet metal bender (brake) plenty of videos on diy sheet metal brakes...
MORE MUSIC PLEASE!! I had no idea this was all made for your videos. Do you have a SoundCloud profile or are you on Spotify, iTunes?? Very talented. The whole production. Audio, video, content, an amazing channel!
Was really about to ask the same thing! The music is awesome!
Slow mo music should be made out of Racedriver GRIDs menu music, if someone knows
Yes, hes named Akina Boy on all platforms
Does anyone ever read descriptions?
Ethan, should there be any internal baffles in the fuel tank to prevent starving the fuel pump? Or at the very, least to prevent a heavy load of fuel from slamming side to side under heavy maneuvering/ turning?
Ed, for a slow-mo filming fix, check out industrial steal forging under a huge power hammer. The 360* burst of molten steel, makes for some awesome slow-mo filming content.
Keep doing what you do, dudes!
Thanks for the input! I hadn’t considered baffles, but I will definitely add some when I build version 2.
@@GrindHardPlumbingCo Definitely build a v2.0 gas tank, that thing was (still is?) beautiful! Baffles would be ideal on a tank that shape and size, but 150psi is more than my little air tank/ compressor are rated for. The cap will have a vent tube, right? I love the Barbie Jeep, but I'm just as hyped for the Odyssey and it's not even done! Keep it up👍
you guys have inspired me to do so similar projects on my channel in the near future . keep up the good work .
That’s awesome man! Glad to hear it!
“The buggy”remember moving to Florida in 91 and riding one. This and a Fat cat made me want a Honda. Bought two frames and a Gx160 for $60, used a shopping cart to transport 4.5 miles, a trip to Northern and it jerked tears at 55mph. Love the recycling and Innovation! God bless 🇺🇸
Most aluminum gets really weak when bent in a brake or wood stove. Oh well. Put a few baffles in it for strength
and use it. Old odyssey sounds strong. I built a pretty good one. An adjustable drive pulley is worth the money. You can tune the wieghts and just snatch off when it engages.
Michael, that's not the stock Honda power plant.
I wish I could see the world through this guy's eyes.. Master re-user. In all that work, it's obvious more skill was gained that will be of tons of use elsewhere.
Like.. 6:00.
This man wastes no material. xD
yeah, good point. at least out of all that, he got plenty of practice welding aluminium, and he even said he got better, so it was not a waste of time at all, not to mention i enjoyed watching it :-)
You build some coolest unthought of little overpowered rides and have great music , what can I else can I ask for !
Dumb question do y'all have a PO box or anything like that I have a bomber-style round gas tank that went on a old 1957 dragster I think it would look good
Send us an email and I can give you my address. Just don’t want to post it on here for the whole world to see. 😂
@@GrindHardPlumbingCo If it is possible where you guys are at in Idaho, you should set up a subscriber PO box for subscriber mail. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would love to help support the builds with tools, gears and parts.
I agree i would prefer to send an International money order to the persons directly, so they get the lot, rather than via PayPal or patreon and have to pay a commission
Po box 705, Clark fork, id 83811
It's Edwin's parents'. The guys haven't set up one of their own yet :)
You should make a Mini tank with the tracks from the snowmobile
Nicholas Cervone I was thinking the exact same thing!!!
Just realized you are Akina boy 😂😂😂😁😁😁 FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING MUSIC KEEP MAKING MORE!!!!!
Yes on the music yes on the slow welding yes on the failures yes on more stuff in general love what you do
I dig your music please don't stop making it. You have talent.
I've wanted one of these Honda Odessey since they came out. And being a machinist/fab guy I am infatuated with this build. Makes new want to do something similar.
Best channel on RUclips!!!
I have an old Yamaha V-Max motorcycle sitting in my garage.....hmm...🤔
When I weld in real time, it is only slightly faster than your SLo Mo Welding. The difference is, I get to watch you do it! ;-)
Love watching SLo Mo Welding!! (I see a T-Shirt!).
I love this channel and it makes me stoked to see y’all getting the love you deserve. The music is rad and the editing/videography has been on point. Definitely don’t mind watching the setbacks either! Totally still quality content, it’s all part of the process!
Next winter you should make like a go cart with tracks and a sled engine.
We want to for sure
Just rear track this!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely want to put tracks on the Odyssey!
Hell yeah!!!!
Wrap the gas tank in carbon fiber! It’ll look great and reinforce it well.
Man your lofi hip hop music is so good
Well its a bummer that the fueltank didn't work out but its also probably a little bit to ambitious to make the first aluminum projekt a full costum fueltank but keep up the amazing work
The practice you got from welding the tank was good a good learning experience. Practice on it some more and use it to hold water for trips. Now you have a template to make one from steel or thicker aluminum.
I don’t care what I’m doing as soon as I see you post these I’m hooked into watching please keep them coming !!
My two year old, 5 year old, and 7 year old, and I watched this video with rapt interest. Be safe guys, but for reals this is one of the coolest projects I've ever seen. Nice job
10:35 yes! As I opened my eyes to write a comment about this music, I opened them to that frame!
Please this jazzy stuff vibrates my soul!
im glad you made the fuel tank as I liked the idea of where it went and seeing that you tested it to destruction showed real craftsmen ship. keep up the good work thanks
I really like watching you recycle the parts.
4:43 Ethan: "Just gonna send it"
That hit me hard...Great video and build. Keep up the good work
Your tank need baffles to keep the fuel from sloshing around .
Good idea! Will add some in the new one.
Hououin Kyouma و
Maybe next build, a snowmobile but with an ATV front end. But still using the track in the rear
a simular design as that cart but snowmobiletrack in the back and snowmobileskies in the front instead of wheels!
Congratulations they just did it hahahahah
@@makermerk6823 heh I just saw that!
Next time you make a gas tank, be sure to include baffles inside to reduce the force of liquid slamming against the sides of the tank.
please do the slow mo welding video
That music is super nice chill and surprisingly relaxing
Put a hundred psi to the stock sled tank.
I think your tank was fine except for possible future leaks.
The chillhop is on point man! 👍😁
Wouldn't hert to chuck some tank seal in your tiny little fuel cell 😉
EDIT: to late, just got to the bit where you blew a hole in it! LOL 😂
I appreciate that you're humble enough to scrap all that work. And also that you don't want to die in a raging inferno.
You took a piece of crappy Aluminum. No metal break and made a fuel tank . Outstanding!
The best part of you guys, is the fact that your workbench is your legs! I think most of us do the same thing.
Glad you appreciate it! You work with what you have.
I'd love a vid with the music and welding. Sounds great.
Grind hard is one of my favorite channels.
Your music with slow motion welding for an hour would make for a perfect video to just play in the background while working in the garage. I'd play that on a loop.
I would watch/listen to jazzy welding all day long my man!
This build is coming along great i cant wait to see the final product.
I would totally watch your jazz hip hop slowmo welding movie. That would be incredible to watch being high.
Just found you guys out a couple days ago! Love the channel! I love how you reuse everything as much as possible
Can’t wait to see this completed. Great videos guys!
I enjoy the rawness in it all.
We love watching oddly satisfying videos before bed. Slo-mo welding videos would make great satisfying videos!
You guys are killing it, keep up the good work.
You'll reeeeally want to invest in a TIG torch for outside edges on aluminum. It's ridiculous how much easier it is to get a better quality weld with a torch and filler rod. Spoolgun is great for tacking and laying in fillet welds though, I used both quite extensively fabbing up headache racks and other semi accessories. Just my two cents 🤘 keep on grinding
I'm late but i have to say your videos are just jaw dropping like that intro is movie quality and you guys are going to make it places. PS found you a couple months ago and am on my journey to build stupidily cool thing
Well even further than you already have
Awesome what are you building? And I'm curious how did you find us?
@@GrindHardPlumbingCo I found you thru the first Barbie car video and I was going to do one but tried buying used stuff and people just never met so I'm going to try and make my little Chinese shitbox moped into a reliable speed demon without breaking the budget gotta say it's hard but I got it running. Just time to make it faster😂😂
7 gallons plus could have used some baffles to prevent sloshing and maybe a sump if you wanted to get fancy. Keep up the good work loving the content
Love what you Guys do! Thanks so much!
Rich.
Definitely still use that tank! Bang it back in, weld it, cut the top back off if it, weld the inside as well, and add baffles to control fuel slosh and add internal supports to prevent severe damage from simple impacts. It would never need to see 100psi anyways. Its still a good tank. Id also recommend a rollover vent but its not the end of the world if you dont have one. Keep it!
Good on you fellas recycling the old 2 strokes 😀👍
I actually came across (by accident) a 2 Cylinder 2-Stroke built 60-ish Horsepower (Arctic Cat Snowmobile Motor) swapped Odyssey and that thing was terrifying. I got it on a good trade, played with it a little, realized it was a deathtrap and tried forever to trade it. Wound up trading it for a heavily modified 350 Warrior that was worn all the shit but was definitely built right and well. I will never forget that Odyssey though, its take-off was sad, but after it started winding out it would just try to spin the tires out on big knobby balloon tires and could do AT LEAST 60MPH+ when we tested it with a car riding right beside it. After 60+ on road, with no suspension and balloon tires, I chickened out and it wasn't even cranking out 9k RPM and I know for sure it could turn well over 12k. Scares me to think how fast that deathtrap could go, and if the next owner is even still alive if he tried to find out.
That gas tank would have been fine with those last few pinholes closed up. Awesome work guys. Definitely don’t forget to put a firewall between the exhaust, gas tank, and the seat. You can even use furnace insulation to isolate the heat from exhaust even more. Also you guys should wrap that whole exhaust. Great build guys!
I love the way your mind works and really enjoy all your builds. Great camera guy you got there. really enjoy his work too.
Bad ass video like always guys... I'd personally love longer videos as well.. Either way jus keep doing whatcha doing it's amazing...
Man that two stroke sounds great! Good salvaging :) I have a awesome source for salvaged aluminum for my projects, working at a snowboard manufacturer I get to salvage there old molds for 25 cents a pound! Most sheets are 1/8” thick about 14” wide by about 5’ to 6 feet long, now that I own a AC tig it’s real nice being able to put that aluminum to good use. Nice job guys!!! I also have a aluminum spool gun and they are tricky, the the speed you have to move at is a bit much to keep it from melting though. Looks like you guys are doing great!
I'll watch anything you guys put out. It's all super entertaining. Thanks for sharing...
Thanks!
The hour long slowmo welding video would be great, I'd watch it. It's too bad about the aluminum gas tank, I'd cut some of it apart for a skid plate that way it's not a complete loss for the build. But you did learn something, and that's what counts! 😁
Freakin' love your videos! Showing real world, home garage engineering is so refreshing. Your editing and music are excellent! Can't wait for the next episode. What's the next build idea? How about port-a-potty go-cart? LOL
Love the slow motion welding. Can't wait to see how the Odyssey turns out. Lovin the videos. Keep up the great work.
Wouldnt watch it but would deff have it playing while gaming. You're making some pretty slick tracks.
How are you going to keep the motor cool?
I thought about putting a Rotax 800 in my golf cart, but (like most snowmobile motors), max engine temp is supposed to be 120-130F. Those temps are easy to hold with snow...
Just put in some massive fans
My first crack at welding aluminum was building a dock. Let's just say I'm not worried about water getting trapped in the tubing!
My new favorite channel!
If you can afford it get a AC/CD TIG welder, PrimeWeld 225TIG only 750 and i love mine. You could probably still save the aluminum fuel tank. Good fabrication practice though, lots of persuasion and persistence.
Just take that fuel tank into a radiator shop they will seal all the holes up and pressure test it.
That's my job on Monday pulling a rusty tractor fuel tank and taking it in to get repaired at the radiator shop
When i was single an had lots of time on my hands, I built a "go kart" from scratch and powered it with a 570cc yamaha engine. With no diff it was a smoke show machine, but hard to corner at high speed. Was about the same size as this one, but with smooth tires. It ran the 1/4 mile in 11.7 seconds at 120mph.
I would love to see the hour long jazzy mix with welding... So relaxing 🤗
Can't wait to see it go guys please get a video up of it driving...even for 1 minute, looks fun. Wish it was mine.
if you take another stab at the tank, add a baffle or two and a surge pot to pull the fuel from; sevenish gallons of gas stored mostly width-wise, sloshing around offroad, is gonna cause some fuel starvation without baffles...
edit:
and coat the inside with some fuel-safe epoxy from the likes of POR-15! no more pinholes to worry about. 😉
you could have put a divider in the middle of the tank so that the fuel would not splash back and forward or side to side while driving. that's gonna be a lot of gas
Yes I would watch hour of this music and welding. You nailed the idea.
I've just kind of found your channel and I have enjoyed it very much because I need to watch you guys have some very interesting content
Your guys's videos are getting so much better every time you upload!
Love how your editing is evolving, this was great guys
I think that tank may need some baffles inside. Oh well, too late now. Looks good!
Happily watch welding with this music!!
Good to know...
You live and you learn
... you guys are LIVIN AND LEARNIN !!! the grind hard way
Crazy stuff as usual guys! Keep it up! I'd probably watch the slo mo welding for a while and might leave it on for the music
This thing is gonna be fricking bonkers. Can't wait to see'er rip. Keep it up, boys! 👍
Build one of those crazy russian style tracked ATVs! You guys are legends and could totally pull something like that off. Or perhaps like a baby 'ripsaw' ? Sick video btw, loving this build and can't wait to see it rip! Much love from the UK. xx
I absolutely love this channel!!! I loved this episode the aluminum tank is like all my projects but you adapt and overcome can't wait to see it do a rowdy rip!!!!
i love the music !!!
The different genres of music in this vid! Haha. Your channel is by far in my top 5 subs. Amazing work guys!!! Btw, I think your gas tank is still salvageable. It doesn’t need 100 psi just make sure it doesn’t leak.
Caswell tank liner and some rubber mounts for a bit of added insurance.
This video convinced me to subscribe just so you guys know! I did a 440 Yamaha swap into a FL250 Odyssey back in 2004 so this is right up my alley!
Videos keep getting better and better!
Thanks man!
had idea you could angle iron on some wielding on the seems and corners there to make that tank but stronger like the flat faces of It should hold fine
Catching up to present is going to take some doing. Ya guys been busy. Edwin's editing is great. Loved the bit of good old rock music in there.
That Odyssey is going to rip. I hope the brake pads are up to it.
Really enjoying the build (tank attempt included.) Thanks, from Australia.