Nothing pisses me off like knowing his poor, lovely mama worked hard her whole life and never got even a day of sweet retirement with her loving husband 💔
Sorry, but you do not know pretty much anything, except for a couple of sound bites. You might be suspicious that all victims are portrayed as wonder, innocent people full of life. That's just to add a bit of emotion into the jury. It helps sell the conviction.
Now instead of his mum paying for his 40 (or however old he is) year old ass, it's our tax dollars paying for his meals and housing. I wonder if he was outgoing, friendly, and happy when big Papa ripped his rear
"My father killed my mother, then cut off his own hands, dismembered himself and put himself in the tub. How can they not buy that story, its fool proof" Joel Guy Jr
@yolo crone I know that lol :) But im joking, think of it like this, when he was arrested, he said "My father killed my mother" and the cops were like "oh sure, of course, we totally believe you... 😉" ...This guy left so much evidence behind, even if he managed to get rid of the bodies, he would never get away with it
Lmao this has the same vibes as a case I remember where the lawyer said something to the effect of “the individual killed himself and then he planted the gun after killing himself to make it look like a murder”
I was going to respond that the defence was doing their job and God forbid he appeals stating his defense was weak. By providing their due diligence there is less possibility for that appeal. He tried to wrap the case in red tape early on.
I've always felt that in especially heinous crimes, court appointed defense attorneys do the bare minimum. They do enough to prevent an appeal from being approved and less enough to get the point across that they believe their client is a monster.
@@valenzuela940 he actually was clever enough to request no defense and ask to represent himself to hold up the case in red tape ... the judge denied self representation and he was given court council. I do think he may appeal the matter that he was given defence he did not choose, however I dont think that will pass through .... one has to demonstrate they have a working knowledge of the law to represent himself ... which he doesn't have
@@valenzuela940 Same goes for Chandler Halderson's lawyer. Everyone mocks her for a weak defense, yet I never hear anyone mention Joel Jr's lawyer. Look what they both had to work with!
the step-daughter’s such sweet personal details she loved about her step-mom, the engagement ring, her favourite shirt, the arch in her feet, her cup… that shows a love that’s so rarely seen in those relationships. that poor baby. 😔
@@avaverry9917 I agree, it was heartwarming to see her love for her step mother, but totally gross listening to her diss her bio mom. I always appreciated how hard my single mom had to work to even have a half full pantry, and never gave her shit in comparison to my father and step mothers pantry. She was shitting on her mom for shit she couldn’t even control :/
@@frankie7384 I would highly recommend to not make a judgement against someone with a two minute clip during a highly emotional and traumatic event. You know n o t h i n g about her home life with her mother, she could be an abusive pos for all you know. Stop.
@@breekookie7036 totally agree. What we know is that her statement was heartwarming and that she clearly loves her step mom. We know nothing about her biological mother and their relationship. What she said is not "disgusting". We don't know what else was going on, and to insult a woman in such a traumatic situation because someone on the internet thinks she disrespected her biological mother, based on literally nothing is both ignorant and unnecessary. Thanks for intercepting this and saying what needed to be said.
@@wherestheleakmaam1543 unfortunately thats how the internet works, people would rather make extremes assumptions because its not only easy, its easy to put those assumptions onto people they have no contact with and never will, you can put anything on that person and someone out there will agree with you and reinforce that assumption, no matter how baseless it is having grown up in a mixed family i know how she feels when it comes to loving a step-parent and looking up to them, but that step-parent would never replace your bio ones, regardless what relationship you have with them it just happens, you click with certain people better then others even if their family, thats part of being human
Pretty sure he planned to go back and didn't expect the alarm to be called as soon as it was. He obviously didn't count on people caring about them enough to send police there.
He seems pretty analytical and methodical with his lists. You'd think he'd be able to turn that into being gainfully employed instead of murdering his generous parents for their money.
Exactly. Its horrible how the first officer did a wellness check and said everything was fine after seeing the cars in the driveway and getting no response from the house. How does any of that seem fine?
It might be worth it in this case. He hates prison so much, that he actually threatened to "claw the eyes out" of any cellmate they put with him. There is some value in knowing that this sack of turds will be sitting in a jail cell until the day he croaks, suffering every minute. I'm pro death penalty, but that is what he "wanted", so sometimes life in prison is worse than death.
Those inmates really don’t get much, trust me….prison is hell. You should complain about the government using most of our tax money to buy weapons for war and not fixing potholes
It's excruciatingly painful the moment the coroner describes the situation of how the couple was found disremembered while their son is just sitting there, no f*cking reaction, blunt, and like just watching a movie. Maaan, that's your parents you murdered. You MONSTER!!!!
right! it makes me so mad..like how could you murder your mom bc she wanted to retire..like he's a vile POS..like her money was his and he's like, she has the audacity to make me work..that dude is pure evil ...like the dad named you after him and they gave him the life those would dream of .I hope he rots in prison
I remember being so engrossed in this trial.... his demeanor never changed... cold, disassociated, and unbothered... this man-child killed the two people who would have died FOR him... and seeing how the sweet sister and her children (and rest of the family) are absolutely broken from this tragedy, added an entire new layer of how tragically heartbreaking all of this was... all for selfish, laziness...😔
I would be the LAZIEST public defender ever. I would play a game called "Pick Your Defense". It would consist of having a jar with strips of paper with defense suggestions. I would be blindfolded, reach in and pick one and whatever I pick would be the defense I would use. Like: Me: *blindly reaches in jar, pulls out the strip and reads it* "Ok, today's chosen defense is autism. Good enough."🤷♂️
The fact that he already had those blue tubs in his car when he arrived...playing the nice uncle for once, which probably made his poor mom so happy...and all the while he knew what he was about to do once his sisters left?! How sick is that?
Yeah, his defence team had a hard time arguing his lack premeditation when he brought the bins WITH HIM...but he was Happy, Friendly and Outgoing, so......ok sir, you're free to go..
And let's not forget the meat grinder in his trunk! What we all should be carrying around 'cause ya never know when you're gonna need it! Delectable roadkill maybe?
This one just tears me inside, they gave him everything in order for him to pursue his dreams and when they asked him, reasonably so, to put forth some effort and sacrifice for once in his life, he just disposed of them like they were garbage. I have to go hug both my parents now...
The crazy part is he definitely did put a lot of effort in dismembering and killing his parents that was truly a sacrifice his parents was an expecting. I guess now he will be taken care of by our system, so sad 😞
@@Kensington2714 omg i was gonna tell the person above about that and yes they literally gave him everything even after what he had done and still forgave him and loved him and was willing to still help him and then he went and murdered all of them his brother codys death is what struck me the hardest because of the letter cody wrote to him telling him how much he still loved him and was going to help him all the way its absolutely insane how human beings like him are.
Lawnmower parents don't help any children whatsoever to all you parents out there stop doing everything for your child if you don't they will continue to be children and never grow the f up you're not helping your kids you're hindering them for life spoiled rotten kids are spoiled rotten people in the future doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out that goes for helicopter parents as well entitled Millennials are pathetic
Exactly they paid his rent bills car school meanwhile I can’t even ask my parents for help I wrk 2 jobs and my child she’s 17 she works as well this is sad
It’s horrifying & heartbreaking. I feel so badly for their other children. They seemed to be such a close-knit family & kind people. Sad story. A stupid, deranged man-child destroyed a lot of lives that day.
I guess you’ve never heard of Grant Amato. Yet another loser son who killed his own family for cutting off the fantasy life he’d created on their dime. Amato & Junior here would make for interesting cell-mates. Junior is an arrogant, revolting little toad & Grant is pathetically insecure & looks like a young Crypt Keeper.
there's much more disturbing than this, the bever brothers almost wiped out their whole household, its twisted nonetheless but this is monsters has documented the worst, watch all his vids you will be indecisive about which evil is worse
That ME was a pro. You could tell this was one of the most horrific sights she'd ever seen but she was credible & complete & did her job as completely as possible.
I can never get over just how creepy it is watching people on camera or in pictures just before they die. Mom was doing a normal thing at Walmart little did she know what was going on at home and she would be dead very shortly. So sad
@Evan Wallace "You're right there" for sure, although I was also moved to weeps on reflecting about it, nobody in that store or the cashier - who if they ever see such footage as them ringing up & even chatting with their customers turned into victims I can only imagine their upset & distress - also had the least idea of how this lady's Just An Ordinary Day was soon to be on the far side of the universe from that. I barely managed to stir myself from the shocked state I was in to see that, but most of the running time here I just lay unmoving like a beached stick in the sand, mostly listening [the putrid ugliness of this Jupiter-sized sack of shit is too much for my "delicate photoreceptors" to tolerate] as this beyond dirty water to make Jackson's look like the Potomac River centuries past, which was the essence of clean, washed over my senses. I managed to take a selfpic & boy does "you look terrible!" apply there, eyes round with pain & terror in a near-whitened face [being of red skin like my Indian ancestors, that says something], but nowhere remotely near that which these people suffered as they realized they were being destroyed by what they all too late came to know was an unspeakable monstrosity - of their own *physical* making; they are completely blameless about its rotted-out insides from the lowest depths of hell. It was literally Eye For An Eye time here, this soulless blob should have gotten exactly the same sickening things it did for Due Justice - no hack dreaming up graphic splattergore for the masses can begin to approach the coroner's descriptions of what happened to them. Jeez that awful nausea is coming on again, M.T.R.E.I.P. to Lisa & Joel, & may that bloated misshapen inhuman Soon Oh Soon get what's coming to it behind bars that the jury & judge couldn't serve.
Please don't mistake my comment as victim-blaming. I'm just saying a good parent practices a little bit of tough-love to prepare their children to eventually fly the coop. They were clearly his biggest enablers to his arrested development. That's all I'm saying.
All public defenders need to be paid more, but my mans right there deserves a giant raise for having to make a fool of himself in public because the indefensible client he got saddled with is too narcissistic to plead out.
That just shows what kind of psycho Joel is to be honest.He dragged them trough this trial!!!!For what????He is guilty anyway.Like he is blaming them for being caught cause they reported their parents missing.
It's funny how he was thinking he was going to get EVERYTHING of their when he had 3 sisters and wasn't even the executor of their estate. LMFAO. "All Mine." NO BITCH, that PRISON CELL is ALL YOURS
As I understand it, those are his (paternal) half-sisters. By killing his father, he expected to be the sole beneficiary of his mother's $500,000 life insurance policy, as he is her only child. He expected to receive 1/4 of his father's estate, which would've been divided between himself and his three half-sisters. His half-sister was the executor of their father's estate.
his lawyer is probably a public defense attorney just work to help defendants who cannot afford good ones. He probably going through the motion, doing what he can but never actually able to proof his defendant not committing the crime. He probably have another case after this.
This guy is the only "human" who creeped me out just by how he drank out his water bottle. He would sorta throw his head back with a limp wrist and then would violently swish it for 30 seconds before swallowing. The guy absolutely belongs here, he truly is a monster. The sisters are so lovely and all made it clear how much they love and respected their parents. Such a horrific case.
I was also adopted, but as an infant. I feel like the example with Joel Jr. leans more towards anecdotal, as l feel he would have killed no matter what... but that's just speculative and only Joel Jr. knows what exactly happened.
The fact that he doesn’t even look down as he listens to people describe his dismembered parents, something is definitely missing there. Everyone was lucky he didn’t go wrong long before that.
@Cory Dinsmore Holly shit dude. Kity only said if he wants money for commissary he will have to work. Especially because you get nothing in prison so if you want a shampoo you better rake dirt for 10 hours. ... literally 🤣
@abigmonkeyforme This is what pissed me off about the commentary on this video. This dude was presenting the best possible arguments he could for his client, and the narration was talking about him like he was an idiot. No shit the arguments were bad, the client is guilty, but the defense attorney has to make the arguments or the dude gets a new trial on appeal and second trials almost always are less likely to end in convictions.
@@Zephialx Yeah, you'd think a series that presumably focuses a lot on court proceedings would understand that the defense attorney was doing what is expected of him, no more and no less.
Something else happened he's very unfortunate looking which is unusual as both parents were nice looking adults. His eyes are rather bulging combine with a weak chin and a odd shaped head.
More appropriately, teach them to do for themselves! I can't help but wonder WHY they kept enabling(supporting) him. Clearly by his seriously deranged actions & odd trial behavior he must have mental defects of some sort. Diagnosed psych issues didn't seem to come up, but you wonder if them knowing he "wasn't right" is why they kept supporting him. Sadly they weren't aware he was willing & capable of killing them to prevent their support coming to an end.
@@stephenpmurphy591 Some of the guys I've dated looked like uncle Fester and King Kong Bundy. They were sweet, loyal, faithful, funny, brilliant and great lovers . Ugly men market themselves based on their personalities much better than us. Trust me, it's not his looks. He transmits creep vibes on every bandwidth.
@@stephenpmurphy591My grandmother was from the South and used to tell me all the crazy old wives tales and Southern sayings. One is that if two good-looking people had a child, it would be ugly. Two ugly people would have a good-looking child. Silly, of course but she would say that every time we saw a situation where it would fit. 😆
Honestly props to the defender. He has an obligation to defend this guy yet gave him the shittiest defense in the world lol. He clearly doesn’t give a fuck about his POS client.
I’m actually surprised he actually moved enough to dismember his poor parents, they gave him everything and this is how he Repays them , a true monster
Since Joel jr never had a job, he didn’t know that his mother missing work would look suspicious. This guy thought he had all the time in the world....
Just think, if he wasn’t such a meat nugget he could have possibly gotten away with it, or at the very least had way more time if he waited until the day that was supposed to be her last day of work. Suspicion would have taken much longer. Thank god this man is not only heinous but stupid as shit.
She was not a 911 operator. It was the non emergency number. I just had to use this for the 1st time. I came home around midnight and a kind, old and feeble looking man who could barely walk (he was clean, well cared for and dressed in clean nice clothes) asked me if I knew where he lived. He couldn't find his apt. (All the apts do look the same!) He was so sweet but confused. I waited with him while I called around to see what to do. 911 operator said I had to call non emergency number (we should all put our local non emergency number in our phones). An officer finally arrived and figured out which apt was his. No way could I leave this man out in the cold, lost and alone.
I agree! I watched one of his videos the other day and the 911 operator was really bad! A little kid called in because his brothers were murdering their whole family and he was hiding and had to whisper and the operator kept asking him to repeat himself and talk louder! It was super frustrating!
This might be my favorite case you've covered so far. The sheer amount of evidence in that crime scene was mind blowing lmao like it literally could not have looked more like a crime scene if he tried. Every square foot of the house was either covered in blood, body parts, weapons or cleaning supplies. I've never seen a messier crime scene and attempted cover up. And then the icing on the cake is the notebook with a step by step breakdown of his shitty plan. It even says "kill dad so he can't take the insurance money ($500,000!!). All in one room is the planning (prove pre-meditation), a horrific crime scene, an unfinished cover up and a book describing his plan and motive with his name on it and handwriting lmao
She had to be she was working just to give all her money to her son. Paid his bills etc. that’s a amazing woman. Not a lot of people would do that for there adult children .
Sad to think at the point her son was stabbing her husband at that point and she's probably thinking about arranging dinner for them when she gets back
@@Taperack123 Or the fact that the father, while dying, was well aware of what was going to happen to his wife when she got home. I just...ugh. So unimagineably awful.
The stepdaughter saying she admired Lisa so much that she wanted to be exactly like her is a testimony to the amazing person she must have been. Rest in peace
That woman…who talked about the times spent with her dad and stepmother…are so poignant. Even in the retelling…you can feel how wonderful …how profound this experience was for her sister and her. The stepmother sounds like the kind of woman easy to like. Which makes how she and the father died…even more reprehensible.
I just didn't like how she threw her real mom under the bus...mentioning empty cupboards. Maybe the dad should have paid more child support instead of spoiling his deranged son
Yeah, it came off to me like he had the "perfect murder" all planned out in his head, and that he thought he was so smart... but it didn't work out so well in real life. Which is good for us, because it was so easy to catch him. This dude really had no idea what he had, and how much his family did for him, and he just destroyed it all...
Lisa and Joel looked like the perfect couple , so happy and still in love after so many years together. I could only dream about parents like them and everything they provided for their kids growing up. RIP Lisa&Joel ❤️🇺🇸❤️
Gotta say, most couples I know don't last that long, they often end up getting married twice or thrice, & when asked why, it's always "because my wife is a scum" "she was a covert narcissist" "my ex was a incel" "He's an abusive scum" lol, I was surprised how joel & Lisa's marriage was still upbeat & strong even after 31 years, they were really soulmates ❤
God, hearing Joel Sr.'s daughter talk about Lisa was so heartbreaking. As somebody with step-parents : you know that somebody's a good person when even their step-kids love them. Lisa and Joel Sr. deserved so much better then their pathetic excuse of a son.
For real lol how would someone not think “hmm yeah maybe I should get rid of this paper detailing how I’m going to murder them…” but nah this dude just went “eh fuck it”
@@rachelc8715 Yes, because clearly, no one is ever born bad, the parents were monsters who deserved to be murdered and every single kid who's raised by doting parents or even slightly spoiled grows up to be a murderer. 🙄 Idio†.
He was a malignant narcissist, and I mean that in a clinical sense. He truly thought he was superior to everyone else (imagine looking like THAT and believing you're the pinnacle of human evolution, blech), and that he deserved to be handed everything. He genuinely does not see other people as human, just a means to an end. Once they stop being useful to him, they're disposable. You people screeching "bAd pArEnTiNg" should be ashamed of themselves. Just because they loved and supported their son for so long doesn't make them bad parents. Going by your warped logic, their other kids would have all been murderous sociopaths, too. And yet, they all turned out fine. Funny, that. It's almost like their parenting wasn't the issue, here. It's just a fact of life, some people are just born bad.
When I heard "Louisiana School for Math Science and the Arts class of 06" i screamed and went find my year book and sure enough, he's in there! I graduated the very next year and went t school with him. That's messed up.
Especially thinking as a parent we always text or call our children & hubby when we are shopping and ask them if there’s anything they want from the store. Little did she know what her own child that she brought into this world and raise had in store for her Smh. He had a lovely upbringing yet was drawn to murder by greed. This just goes to show that it doesn’t matter if there is abuse at home or love , if someone wants to murder, they will and they can. This world is so hideous.
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@@rottingravensblood9106 scammers i agree with, but the return for robbing or murdering for insurance money is much larger and it happens quickly...Its effort in short bursts not grinding away daily like all of us not crazies do
@@psychofish2585 ... The majority of defense lawyers get paid very little if anything. I don't blame this lawyer for only doing the very minimal for this pos.
I like how your channel shows actual footage of the people and courtroom footage surrounding the case. A lot of shitty lower quality crime channels would do a 4 minute video in this case and just be them reading a short article over a mugshot photo. Your hard work shows, thank you sir
Some viewers _prefer_ a quick overview of cases that hit the media, so they know the basics without devoting much time to details. It's possible to appreciate this channel's awesome content and hard work they put into it without talking crap about other channels.
I feel the opposite tbh. He just pads out his videos with clips that he doesn’t have to edit. Easy way to get your videos to a good length for the algorithm without actually doing any more work.
OMG!! This "thing" is not just any Monster, he's like Dr. Frankenstein Monster. I wonder what people that know him think about him because no one capable of doing this can act like a normal human being. Thank goodness for his Mom's boss. She deserves an award.
You know I never thought of that. That was a good move. Watching these type of stories I used to get annoyed when the killer/s faked cried etc but to see no emotion whatsoever in such a gruesome murder is so nerving.
@@norgepalm7315 you say that but they didn’t do it with the other cases if you had watched all the other episodes so….. can’t be that standard. Bet you forget about not being a twat. It happens
Welp... looks like a classic domestic violence. He killed his wife then cut his own arms and hands off (impressive none the less) and hopped into a lye bath. Its practically the perfect crime.
Umm there are plenty of hardworking self sufficient people who murder and dismember their families . . . in fact those people constitute the norm on this channel.
He had a wonderful family who loved and cared for him. And instead of using his intelligence to make something out of himself, and make his family proud, he wasted it away. He's a selfish person who used his parents and when they didn't want to do for him anymore, they weren't worth nothing to him. Its sad that he took his wonderful parents not only away from himself, but from his other siblings as well. The way he sits in court and looks at all the pain and suffering and chaos he has caused, and just holds his head high with absolutely no care at all is sickening. He had a life that a lot of people would kill to have. And here he took his parents life and ruined everyone else's. He's the definition of a lazy entitled loser.
🕯️🙏🏻🕊️ Prayers & condolences for the surviving Adult Children & extended family of these victims 😢🕯️🕊️🙏🏻 Such a horrible crime made even worse by that fact that it was a family member who'd done it. Lisa has been described with the greatest of honours. Imagine having had such a positive impact on young lives that they want to grow up to be just like you, just as caring, just as giving, just as loving. Probably the greatest honour we as humans can receive. By the children of her husband in his prior marriage none the less. Yet her own child was so self entitled, that he couldn't even see that what was being done for him was something very few ever get. So horribly tragic, made all the worse by the fact that it was family 🕯️🕊️🙏🏻😢
I had a 9 month period of unemployment last year due to COVID and I went stir crazy pretty fast. I cant imagine not having a job for 27 years and deciding an elaborate double murder and cover up is easier than applying to Arby's.
I didn't work for like 3 months last year after getting out of the Air Force and fell into a depressive episode because of my listlessness. Even though I was starting college in a few months and was just waiting to start.
It's pretty amazing that we allow people like this to live. He'll still get to eat food, read books, play card games, make friends. Yeah he's in prison but he's not dead.
I'm against the death penalty because I'm better than theses maniacs, but they should be locked up, kept alone in the the cold without any kind of contacts till they go insane. Kept alive as long as possible in a 4x6 cell lightened up all the times. That's would be a fitting punishment.
You have to wonder would Joel Guy have been this diaboical regardless of what his parents did or didn't do for him. Is a person born destined to be a diabolical narcisistic sociopath or do they evolve into one based on their enviornment or circumstances. I think his parents unknowingly contributed to his mentality by spoiling him his entire life and then finally doing what they should have done ages ago which is cut him off. My parents made the same mistake with my sister. She drove my mother into an early grave by birthing 4 children that she did not take care of. Sh just dropped them off on my parents to raise like a stork which was incredibly physicaly and financially straining for them. She continued having those children after they were both retired and living on retirement income. I used to be so frustrated with my parents for letting her get away with murder. They were always fixing it so she never had to pay for the consequences of her poor choices and financing her lifestyle even though she wasn't raising her own 4 children. I kept telling them you need to cut her off and they never would. She just became more unhinged as she got older. I personally won't have anything to do with her. I left the state so I could be 1 thousand miles away from her and the havock she reeks on our family.
I'm sure it will warm your heart, like it has warmed mine to know that nobody will be there to put money on his prison account. He will have no choice but to work. In an ironic sort of roundabout way he screwed himself over for the rest of his life.
The only stuff he'll get for free is maybe a few pieces of paper, an envelope, and a little bar of soap. Even then, I bet he would still have to clean and work anyway. If he didn't, it's not like he would be able to enjoy much of anything and even if prison wasn't miserable enough on it's own, I'm pretty sure the other prisoners and guards hate him and will make sure he's paying for what he did
I’ve watched many videos and read articles on this case and this one is by far the best coverage of everything I’ve seen. I appreciate the important details you included with clips of the actual trial. Love your channel and can’t wait to get my “It’s never a mannequin” shirt!!! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
The way he casually swivels back and forth in his chair, while listening to the gruesome details of his horrific actions, makes me so angry. What a waste of all his parents poured into him. 🤬
Wait what did they pour into him? A work ethic? A sense of morality & decency? Empathy, loyalty, & kindness? They enabled him & spoiled him his entire life, & he is a direct result of that.
His lawyers are bound by the law to give an adequate defense. Listening to his lawyer it's clear he wasn't into defending him, but he's doing his duty. If he didn't, Joel would have had a good chance at an appeal for insufficient/inadequate defense. Don't bash the defense lawyers just for doing their job.
Did you read the notes they proved he made? Any appeal is waste of non murderous people's taxpayer money. He literally wrote notes that word for word match the crime scene that is on camera. This is not a human being
Well said. Why waste even a second bashing a lawyer defending someone who’s as guilty as can be. At least the defence didnt make up a bunch of lies, like claiming that the parents were abusive people to harm their characters.
It seems like the defense team here did the least amount of work required by law so they can keep their jobs. They hate this incel creep's guts. They knew he did it. But they still need to do their jobs. A weak argument that is easily rebutted will serve.
I grew up poor but I was happy. My mother was a single parent who raised me right. I appreciate the simple things that she could afford to give me. How this guy can dismembered his parents after all they did for him. This is the worst case ever.
Money makes people crazy. I'm not saying that excuses his actions, not at all. But what I am saying is that when a huge pile of money is on the line then people will do some desperate things to get their hands on it. Go ask a lawyer who deals with probate cases and she'll tell you some stories about families being at each other's throats over even moderate inheritances.
The completely calm, untroubled look on this guy's face as he's hearing the descriptions of his parents' injuries. It's monstrous. Monsters is the right word.
One of most selfish,spoiled,disgusting excuse for a son I have heard of. His parents were so in love too...you can just see it. This kind of criminal scares me the most. THAT boss tho. She really saved this case. Seriously, God Bless her. Also...kinda LOVE how he had to wear that face shield during trial...too bad it didn't have some covid droplets on it just for him...come to think of it, that's still too gentle for him. If anyone you know has been infected, please know I mean no disrespect and I don't intentionally mean to make light of it. Take care of eachother everyone.
I don't blame you for wishing covid on this monster. But if covid was a person, I imagine Covid taking the greatest exception to that remark! (Even Covid woulda let the dog out!!)
So true, I seriously love that boss. I didn't want to feel like I was 'jumping' on the first officers, but that missing back door knob should have raised at least an eyebrow?
@Jane Thalken Hindsight is 20/20. Besides, cops probably see houses in all states of disrepair, so a missing doorknob wouldn't initially be a damning piece of evidence.
It's hard to imagine such a lack of any virtuous quality. Parenticide is usually motivated by emotions. Joel wasn't even left out of the will. He literally did it just to avoid having to get a job. It's not like he felt he was abused, hallucinating, or had any honor in who he stole from.
It's ironic that the hardest Joel Jr. ever worked in his life was the day he killed and dismembered his parents.
Kind of, but he didn't even finish what he was doing, which seemed very on character.
And didn’t get paid for it
Oh man it’s so true 😳😳 that was probably his only day in labour he’s ever seen .... up to this point hopefully 😈
John Allen - True &now he’s retired doing life at the taxpayers expense.
Yeah but his ability to clean up ...fail lol
Nothing pisses me off like knowing his poor, lovely mama worked hard her whole life and never got even a day of sweet retirement with her loving husband 💔
Love ur hair
Sorry, but you do not know pretty much anything, except for a couple of sound bites. You might be suspicious that all victims are portrayed as wonder, innocent people full of life. That's just to add a bit of emotion into the jury. It helps sell the conviction.
@@princeofcupspoc9073 Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
What a sick person
YOU CANT TRUST A SOUL!!!
Say what you like about the guy, his plan worked. He’s never going to have to pay rent or get a proper job for the rest of his life.
Yeah, but tax payers have to flip the damned bill. Joel Guy Jr is an evil spoiled brat psychopath.
Lol he got his wish! The state will be paying for his " 3 hots and a cot" for the rest of his pathetic life!
Now instead of his mum paying for his 40 (or however old he is) year old ass, it's our tax dollars paying for his meals and housing.
I wonder if he was outgoing, friendly, and happy when big Papa ripped his rear
Yeah .. he sure as hell did ! Smh
i tip my imaginary hat to you, sir 🎩 Bravo with that one
He kept a murder journal. How nice of him to make it so easy for the detectives.
Thank you 😂 , bro really acting like he wanted to get away with it
How considerate
If you could read his dogshit handwriting
It was just to much work for him to cover it up he worked so hard he's like oh fuck I'm so tired after a long day
And for the prosecution:)
Too bad he didn't put that much energy into just finding a job.
his list: 1. bring resume 2. go to interview 3. drive to interview < cross out. can't drive, walk to interview. 4. 12 miles to walk for interview.
He could have been an assassin or some shit
@@ooze8354 😂😂😂😂
Right?!?!… and they gave him plenty of notice so he would have time to figure things out.
I'm weak asl 🤣
"My father killed my mother, then cut off his own hands, dismembered himself and put himself in the tub. How can they not buy that story, its fool proof" Joel Guy Jr
@yolo crone I know that lol :) But im joking, think of it like this, when he was arrested, he said "My father killed my mother" and the cops were like "oh sure, of course, we totally believe you... 😉" ...This guy left so much evidence behind, even if he managed to get rid of the bodies, he would never get away with it
@yolo crone so this means your the dummy?
Lmao this has the same vibes as a case I remember where the lawyer said something to the effect of “the individual killed himself and then he planted the gun after killing himself to make it look like a murder”
@@MeGustaR00sta lol or the guy who shoot himself twice in the head 🤦🏻😂
@yolo crone I dont think you get sarcasm.
Every single time you see this guy the word Creepy comes to mind. There is nothing but evil in that empty potato head.
Potato head lmfao 😂
You mean Mr potato Body?
Definitely has an “ Uncle Fester” vibe…
@Kimberly Patton hey that's rude to Uncle Fester. He looks odd but he doesn't look *that* creepy and weird.
I agree 💯
Joel Guy Jr's defense lawyer is the literal definition of "I'm literally just doing my job."
I was going to respond that the defence was doing their job and God forbid he appeals stating his defense was weak. By providing their due diligence there is less possibility for that appeal. He tried to wrap the case in red tape early on.
I've always felt that in especially heinous crimes, court appointed defense attorneys do the bare minimum. They do enough to prevent an appeal from being approved and less enough to get the point across that they believe their client is a monster.
@@valenzuela940 he actually was clever enough to request no defense and ask to represent himself to hold up the case in red tape ... the judge denied self representation and he was given court council. I do think he may appeal the matter that he was given defence he did not choose, however I dont think that will pass through .... one has to demonstrate they have a working knowledge of the law to represent himself ... which he doesn't have
@@valenzuela940 Same goes for Chandler Halderson's lawyer. Everyone mocks her for a weak defense, yet I never hear anyone mention Joel Jr's lawyer. Look what they both had to work with!
With all that evidence he knows say anything stupid.
Doesn't matter
the step-daughter’s such sweet personal details she loved about her step-mom, the engagement ring, her favourite shirt, the arch in her feet, her cup… that shows a love that’s so rarely seen in those relationships. that poor baby. 😔
I think she totally dissed her biological mom in that whole speech. Thought it was pretty gross honestly.
@@avaverry9917 I agree, it was heartwarming to see her love for her step mother, but totally gross listening to her diss her bio mom. I always appreciated how hard my single mom had to work to even have a half full pantry, and never gave her shit in comparison to my father and step mothers pantry. She was shitting on her mom for shit she couldn’t even control :/
@@frankie7384 I would highly recommend to not make a judgement against someone with a two minute clip during a highly emotional and traumatic event. You know n o t h i n g about her home life with her mother, she could be an abusive pos for all you know. Stop.
@@breekookie7036 totally agree. What we know is that her statement was heartwarming and that she clearly loves her step mom. We know nothing about her biological mother and their relationship.
What she said is not "disgusting".
We don't know what else was going on, and to insult a woman in such a traumatic situation because someone on the internet thinks she disrespected her biological mother, based on literally nothing is both ignorant and unnecessary.
Thanks for intercepting this and saying what needed to be said.
@@wherestheleakmaam1543 unfortunately thats how the internet works, people would rather make extremes assumptions because its not only easy, its easy to put those assumptions onto people they have no contact with and never will, you can put anything on that person and someone out there will agree with you and reinforce that assumption, no matter how baseless it is
having grown up in a mixed family i know how she feels when it comes to loving a step-parent and looking up to them, but that step-parent would never replace your bio ones, regardless what relationship you have with them
it just happens, you click with certain people better then others even if their family, thats part of being human
He was literally so lazy he didn't even bother finishing the crime scene. What a worthless human being...
For real!! At least he didn't get back to finish off the poor dog!!!! I wonder who has the poor traumatized baby.
Pretty sure he planned to go back and didn't expect the alarm to be called as soon as it was. He obviously didn't count on people caring about them enough to send police there.
Doesn't sound like a human being at all, TBH.
@@andysaunders3708 yes it does lol people are awful
Plus he left the boiled mom burning on the stove which is dangerous.
Right before his parents retire?! Worked their entire lives, then once they decide to relax for the rest of it, he does that...he really is a monster.
he has NO concept of what 'worked all their life' means...such a scumbag monster
"They have a dog named Jake & I think he's a big baby"
That tore me up. That poor baby.
Did they indicate what happened to the dog? I only listened to half the podcast.
@@bradhoward2410 the dog was fine in the end
The dog wasn’t killed. He was locked in the bathroom barking when detectives arrived. Only silver lining here.
Funny how I listen to the gory details of a horrific murder but as soon as I hear a dog crying for help I'm like "oh my God that poor baby!!!"
@@americandevo its actually not funny, weird asf "poor baby" tfo
The way he sits there like he’s in a lecture at school makes me sick. Pure evil.
The way he smiled when they were talking about how his parents were murdered. Sick AF
it's probably the most attention he got from people (and women) outside his family ever in his life
He looks bored! Like he is barely even listening.
Rolling his eyes at the coroner as if to say, that's not how it happened dummy.
I thought the same thing, no emotional response to what is being said at all. He's definitely got sociopathic tendencies.
How many times is his defense attorney gonna say “outgoing, friendly and happy” like that is going to make us believe he didn’t do it 😂
He seems pretty analytical and methodical with his lists. You'd think he'd be able to turn that into being gainfully employed instead of murdering his generous parents for their money.
He committed the perfect murder by documenting every aspect for the detectives. Including a page titled "premeditation".
Another case of a stupid smart person, or perhaps an educated idiot.
Too lazy and entitled to ever work a job
well, he WAS in college for 9 years, I hope he learned something, what a lazy evil monster...
Lisa’s boss is exactly the type of boss/friend we all need!! She knew Lisa wouldn’t just not show up!!!
Facts! My boss wouldn’t have gave a damn if I didn’t show up haha
Yah seems like she actually knew her employee as a person
@@jeffhough7460 unfortunately not too common. 25 years and I finally found a place that treats me like family. Thankful for it
@@KaiBrunk125 indeed i know this glad you found a good place to be!
Exactly. Its horrible how the first officer did a wellness check and said everything was fine after seeing the cars in the driveway and getting no response from the house. How does any of that seem fine?
His parents first supported him, and now our tax money has to support him for the rest of his fucking life
It might be worth it in this case. He hates prison so much, that he actually threatened to "claw the eyes out" of any cellmate they put with him. There is some value in knowing that this sack of turds will be sitting in a jail cell until the day he croaks, suffering every minute. I'm pro death penalty, but that is what he "wanted", so sometimes life in prison is worse than death.
@@eucliduschaumeau8813 i dont care what he wants or doesnt want. Remove him from earth and dont make me pay money to sustain him. Win win
@@LargeInCharge77 it's actually more expensive to execute somebody
Those inmates really don’t get much, trust me….prison is hell. You should complain about the government using most of our tax money to buy weapons for war and not fixing potholes
@@SamanthaMagdalena it doesn’t have to be expensive though
It's excruciatingly painful the moment the coroner describes the situation of how the couple was found disremembered while their son is just sitting there, no f*cking reaction, blunt, and like just watching a movie. Maaan, that's your parents you murdered. You MONSTER!!!!
right! it makes me so mad..like how could you murder your mom bc she wanted to retire..like he's a vile POS..like her money was his and he's like, she has the audacity to make me work..that dude is pure evil ...like the dad named you after him and they gave him the life those would dream of .I hope he rots in prison
Dreading does a real good job with the video that they shot in the house that is so sad
@@greendragon4058 I love that channel!
@@heyitsalannaluv oh I do too this one and that one and human monsters are my three favorite
@@greendragon4058 same!! They're so good! Do you watch that chapter too?
I remember being so engrossed in this trial.... his demeanor never changed... cold, disassociated, and unbothered... this man-child killed the two people who would have died FOR him... and seeing how the sweet sister and her children (and rest of the family) are absolutely broken from this tragedy, added an entire new layer of how tragically heartbreaking all of this was... all for selfish, laziness...😔
Well said. So true. He seems devoid of any humanity. Horrible tragedy. I hope his prison time is difficult...
That stupid face shield makes him look even more insane.
Fax😂
Well so would a stupid mask but at least we can see his true expression. Or lack of.
He's afraid he might catch a conscience
Insane or rat cunning ? He's not a man just a pathetic self centred moocher..
🤣🤣💯
Sometimes I feel like defense lawyers come up with crappy arguments because they legitimately don’t want to let their client free
Or they want the trial to end quickly because they can’t stand their client. 🤣
What kind of person would defend this piece of shit?
I would be the LAZIEST public defender ever. I would play a game called "Pick Your Defense". It would consist of having a jar with strips of paper with defense suggestions. I would be blindfolded, reach in and pick one and whatever I pick would be the defense I would use. Like:
Me: *blindly reaches in jar, pulls out the strip and reads it*
"Ok, today's chosen defense is autism. Good enough."🤷♂️
@@rom8500 ppl don't understand this
i would
Defense Attorney at closing argument: Sorry, y'all, but I have to get up here and say SOMETHING. 🤣
My guy was like oh crap let's just make shite up maybe I hit gold 😂
It’s probably the easiest case he had ever had lol
The fact that he already had those blue tubs in his car when he arrived...playing the nice uncle for once, which probably made his poor mom so happy...and all the while he knew what he was about to do once his sisters left?! How sick is that?
Yeah, his defence team had a hard time arguing his lack premeditation when he brought the bins WITH HIM...but he was Happy, Friendly and Outgoing, so......ok sir, you're free to go..
And let's not forget the meat grinder in his trunk! What we all should be carrying around 'cause ya never know when you're gonna need it! Delectable roadkill maybe?
Girl Ur really pretty 😘
Lets do the dirty deed 😜
This one just tears me inside, they gave him everything in order for him to pursue his dreams and when they asked him, reasonably so, to put forth some effort and sacrifice for once in his life, he just disposed of them like they were garbage. I have to go hug both my parents now...
The crazy part is he definitely did put a lot of effort in dismembering and killing his parents that was truly a sacrifice his parents was an expecting. I guess now he will be taken care of by our system, so sad 😞
@@Kensington2714 omg i was gonna tell the person above about that and yes they literally gave him everything even after what he had done and still forgave him and loved him and was willing to still help him and then he went and murdered all of them his brother codys death is what struck me the hardest because of the letter cody wrote to him telling him how much he still loved him and was going to help him all the way its absolutely insane how human beings like him are.
Lawnmower parents don't help any children whatsoever to all you parents out there stop doing everything for your child if you don't they will continue to be children and never grow the f up you're not helping your kids you're hindering them for life spoiled rotten kids are spoiled rotten people in the future doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out that goes for helicopter parents as well entitled Millennials are pathetic
Exactly they paid his rent bills car school meanwhile I can’t even ask my parents for help I wrk 2 jobs and my child she’s 17 she works as well this is sad
It’s horrifying & heartbreaking. I feel so badly for their other children. They seemed to be such a close-knit family & kind people. Sad story. A stupid, deranged man-child destroyed a lot of lives that day.
This has to be the most disturbing story I've heard of. He shows absolutely no remorse or emotion. A true psychopath.
Agree completely Christina.
Really? He seems like a sweet heart.
He's a spoiled brat all grown up....
I guess you’ve never heard of Grant Amato. Yet another loser son who killed his own family for cutting off the fantasy life he’d created on their dime. Amato & Junior here would make for interesting cell-mates. Junior is an arrogant, revolting little toad & Grant is pathetically insecure & looks like a young Crypt Keeper.
there's much more disturbing than this, the bever brothers almost wiped out their whole household, its twisted nonetheless but this is monsters has documented the worst, watch all his vids you will be indecisive about which evil is worse
That ME was a pro. You could tell this was one of the most horrific sights she'd ever seen but she was credible & complete & did her job as completely as possible.
I can never get over just how creepy it is watching people on camera or in pictures just before they die. Mom was doing a normal thing at Walmart little did she know what was going on at home and she would be dead very shortly. So sad
@Evan Wallace "You're right there" for sure, although I was also moved to weeps on reflecting about it, nobody in that store or the cashier - who if they ever see such footage as them ringing up & even chatting with their customers turned into victims I can only imagine their upset & distress - also had the least idea of how this lady's Just An Ordinary Day was soon to be on the far side of the universe from that. I barely managed to stir myself from the shocked state I was in to see that, but most of the running time here I just lay unmoving like a beached stick in the sand, mostly listening [the putrid ugliness of this Jupiter-sized sack of shit is too much for my "delicate photoreceptors" to tolerate] as this beyond dirty water to make Jackson's look like the Potomac River centuries past, which was the essence of clean, washed over my senses. I managed to take a selfpic & boy does "you look terrible!" apply there, eyes round with pain & terror in a near-whitened face [being of red skin like my Indian ancestors, that says something], but nowhere remotely near that which these people suffered as they realized they were being destroyed by what they all too late came to know was an unspeakable monstrosity - of their own *physical* making; they are completely blameless about its rotted-out insides from the lowest depths of hell. It was literally Eye For An Eye time here, this soulless blob should have gotten exactly the same sickening things it did for Due Justice - no hack dreaming up graphic splattergore for the masses can begin to approach the coroner's descriptions of what happened to them. Jeez that awful nausea is coming on again, M.T.R.E.I.P. to Lisa & Joel, & may that bloated misshapen inhuman Soon Oh Soon get what's coming to it behind bars that the jury & judge couldn't serve.
Better to not know I guess…
I definitely agree 😔
Unthinkable
These seem like such good parents. The way Lisa’s stepdaughter looked up to her and loved her is beautiful. They just didn’t deserve this 😭
Same shes really sweet and like you said you can tell the girls adored her
Seemed like nice parents yes but they could've instilled a little self reliance and personal responsibility into little Joel.
@@JohnnyD5 I wouldnt say that's THEIR fault. Yea he was spoiled but the daughters seemed like functional adults
@@JohnnyD5 there is clearly a processing issue..
Please don't mistake my comment as victim-blaming. I'm just saying a good parent practices a little bit of tough-love to prepare their children to eventually fly the coop. They were clearly his biggest enablers to his arrested development. That's all I'm saying.
All public defenders need to be paid more, but my mans right there deserves a giant raise for having to make a fool of himself in public because the indefensible client he got saddled with is too narcissistic to plead out.
Lol
The occupation that embodies the term devil advocate.
exactly
Yesss thank you, you're so right. It almost made me cringe watching him fly by the seat of his pants.
@@TheAruthor Can court appointed defense attorneys in the USA, refuse to take on cases? Or do they HAVE to defend despicable clients?
Rest In Peace Joel Guy and Lisa ❤️ your daughters/step daughters speak volumes of the impact you each had on your family and anyone you met.
yes, so true
You have to give the defense lawyer a break. He really had to reach to come up with ANYTHING to at least TRY to do his job.😓🥵
That just shows what kind of psycho Joel is to be honest.He dragged them trough this trial!!!!For what????He is guilty anyway.Like he is blaming them for being caught cause they reported their parents missing.
He was outgoing, friendly and happy. Sounds innocent to me
@@Iambatman_27 Innocent!! Lmbo
Kudos to the mom's boss for knowing something was wrong and insisting the police do a welfare check.
Reminds me of Shannan's friend.
Right, I could lay dead for a week before anyone would notice. Especially my boss, she would just be pissed off I wasn't at work.
It's funny how he was thinking he was going to get EVERYTHING of their when he had 3 sisters and wasn't even the executor of their estate. LMFAO. "All Mine." NO BITCH, that PRISON CELL is ALL YOURS
No... He has to share that cell and hopefully his bunkie likes clappin cheeks.
@@indianapolisjones1615 I think he likes his cheeks clappin? 🤫🤔😂
@@stalks1413 And do😂😂😂
As I understand it, those are his (paternal) half-sisters. By killing his father, he expected to be the sole beneficiary of his mother's $500,000 life insurance policy, as he is her only child. He expected to receive 1/4 of his father's estate, which would've been divided between himself and his three half-sisters. His half-sister was the executor of their father's estate.
Even the prison cell isn't his, he's merely ordered to be in it. Borrowed time, a date with the devil.
But did you know that Joel Guy Jr was outgoing, friendly, and happy that weekend?
He's a total Chad for sure. 😮
Goodness gracious 😳
His lawyer definitely took a few months vacation after this lol
his lawyer is probably a public defense attorney just work to help defendants who cannot afford good ones. He probably going through the motion, doing what he can but never actually able to proof his defendant not committing the crime. He probably have another case after this.
But before that, a long bath. The stench of guilt over Joel Guy, Jr. was unbearable.
This guy is the only "human" who creeped me out just by how he drank out his water bottle. He would sorta throw his head back with a limp wrist and then would violently swish it for 30 seconds before swallowing. The guy absolutely belongs here, he truly is a monster. The sisters are so lovely and all made it clear how much they love and respected their parents. Such a horrific case.
Yeah, very Zuckerbergian, android attempting to "human" and shit...
@Sandra Turajlich Makes me sick as a fellow adoptee.
I was also adopted, but as an infant. I feel like the example with Joel Jr. leans more towards anecdotal, as l feel he would have killed no matter what... but that's just speculative and only Joel Jr. knows what exactly happened.
The way Mark Zuckerberg drinks water freaks me out too
@Sandra Turajlich I haven’t been able to find anything about him being adopted; do you have a source?
The embodiment of the 7 deadly sins wrapped in a slob
The fact that he doesn’t even look down as he listens to people describe his dismembered parents, something is definitely missing there. Everyone was lucky he didn’t go wrong long before that.
I watched his entire trial when it happened. This guy is absolutely proud of what he did.
😅😅😮😅😢😅
He's probably happy because in jail he won't have to work either. It looked like he didn't care at all.
Apparently he never considered he'd have a roommate in prison, LOL. he's appealing to have his own cell, I hope That never happens
You have to work in prison. For cominssary.
@@sicNtwstdF They'll find something for him to do.
It is in most prisons mandatory to work. And most jobs in prison are not paid. Wich I love for him.
@Cory Dinsmore Holly shit dude. Kity only said if he wants money for commissary he will have to work.
Especially because you get nothing in prison so if you want a shampoo you better rake dirt for 10 hours. ... literally 🤣
The defense attorney should have just said “I’m just here so I won’t get fined.”
Lmao 😆
I sometimes wonder if defense attorneys who defends proven murderers spend a lot on therapy and drinking. I don't think my soul can take such a job.
@abigmonkeyforme This is what pissed me off about the commentary on this video. This dude was presenting the best possible arguments he could for his client, and the narration was talking about him like he was an idiot. No shit the arguments were bad, the client is guilty, but the defense attorney has to make the arguments or the dude gets a new trial on appeal and second trials almost always are less likely to end in convictions.
LOL EXACTLY!
@@Zephialx Yeah, you'd think a series that presumably focuses a lot on court proceedings would understand that the defense attorney was doing what is expected of him, no more and no less.
I love the no nonsense, straight forward narrative of this program. I've watched several of the shows & will be watching many more.
This should be a lesson to parents not to raise overindulged monsters. Teach kids discipline and appreciation for what's done for them.
Something else happened he's very unfortunate looking which is unusual as both parents were nice looking adults.
His eyes are rather bulging combine with a weak chin and a odd shaped head.
@@stephenpmurphy591yes he is very unappealing and certainly defective
More appropriately, teach them to do for themselves! I can't help but wonder WHY they kept enabling(supporting) him. Clearly by his seriously deranged actions & odd trial behavior he must have mental defects of some sort. Diagnosed psych issues didn't seem to come up, but you wonder if them knowing he "wasn't right" is why they kept supporting him.
Sadly they weren't aware he was willing &
capable of killing them to prevent their support coming to an end.
@@stephenpmurphy591 Some of the guys I've dated looked like uncle Fester and King Kong Bundy. They were sweet, loyal, faithful, funny, brilliant and great lovers . Ugly men market themselves based on their personalities much better than us. Trust me, it's not his looks. He transmits creep vibes on every bandwidth.
@@stephenpmurphy591My grandmother was from the South and used to tell me all the crazy old wives tales and Southern sayings. One is that if two good-looking people had a child, it would be ugly. Two ugly people would have a good-looking child. Silly, of course but she would say that every time we saw a situation where it would fit. 😆
This guy enjoyed everyone having to hear about what he did to his parents.
I watched the whole trial he knew he was caught bang to rights he had no defence he went to trial for exactly for that reason!
His name is Joel Guy, not This Guy.
@@Comrade_Jason I know that's his name, I chose not to refer to him by name. Guy can be replaced by man if you wish.
I joke. No offense intended.
Humans have names. Wild animals do not.
Defense Attorney: My client did not murder his parents because he was outgoing, friendly, & happy. I rest my case.
Playing the hand he was dealt
That’s why he’s still a public defender and age 85.
Thanks for the spoiler fuckface
And he repeated that the client was outgoing, friendly, and happy about 4 times ha ha
Honestly props to the defender. He has an obligation to defend this guy yet gave him the shittiest defense in the world lol. He clearly doesn’t give a fuck about his POS client.
I’m actually surprised he actually moved enough to dismember his poor parents, they gave him everything and this is how he Repays them , a true monster
Seriously, the more that the defense attorney said, "happy, friendly and outgoing", the more pissed off I got.
Since Joel jr never had a job, he didn’t know that his mother missing work would look suspicious. This guy thought he had all the time in the world....
Plus he never cared for anyone so couldn’t imagine that people care for others.
really bad theory of mind this guy has.
He didn't have any idea... thought every body was as worthless as he was.
Exactly
Just think, if he wasn’t such a meat nugget he could have possibly gotten away with it, or at the very least had way more time if he waited until the day that was supposed to be her last day of work. Suspicion would have taken much longer. Thank god this man is not only heinous but stupid as shit.
Wow a competent 911 operator!! It’s nice to see that she took her job seriously. Lisa’s boss was awesome also
She was not a 911 operator. It was the non emergency number.
I just had to use this for the 1st time. I came home around midnight and a kind, old and feeble looking man who could barely walk (he was clean, well cared for and dressed in clean nice clothes) asked me if I knew where he lived. He couldn't find his apt. (All the apts do look the same!) He was so sweet but confused. I waited with him while I called around to see what to do. 911 operator said I had to call non emergency number (we should all put our local non emergency number in our phones). An officer finally arrived and figured out which apt was his. No way could I leave this man out in the cold, lost and alone.
I agree! I watched one of his videos the other day and the 911 operator was really bad! A little kid called in because his brothers were murdering their whole family and he was hiding and had to whisper and the operator kept asking him to repeat himself and talk louder! It was super frustrating!
@@user-gj1me4mf5c yes it was a 911 operator. They answer all emergency and non emergency calls
@@jessemerrill6481 would you have the title
It was sweet the boss made sure to mention the dog so the police wouldn't be startled by him
What a piece of work... I'm glad the dog was okay at least... I don't even want to think about what might've happened if he'd gotten any further...
This might be my favorite case you've covered so far. The sheer amount of evidence in that crime scene was mind blowing lmao like it literally could not have looked more like a crime scene if he tried. Every square foot of the house was either covered in blood, body parts, weapons or cleaning supplies. I've never seen a messier crime scene and attempted cover up.
And then the icing on the cake is the notebook with a step by step breakdown of his shitty plan. It even says "kill dad so he can't take the insurance money ($500,000!!). All in one room is the planning (prove pre-meditation), a horrific crime scene, an unfinished cover up and a book describing his plan and motive with his name on it and handwriting lmao
The stepdaughter made the stepmother sound like a perfect mother which makes this whole situation even more sad
hi got al her monny
I noticed that too yet she raised this stick of uselessness.
@@brendakabanda2181 I'm sure he's getting special treatment from the inmates. You know what they say about Karma.
@@chansevanatta9606 he wont. Prison does good to murderers. Its crimes like pedophilia that are treated like shit in prison.
She had to be she was working just to give all her money to her son. Paid his bills etc. that’s a amazing woman. Not a lot of people would do that for there adult children .
So creepy seeing his mom bagging groceries having no idea that she was going to be dead in a few minutes.
And her own head boiling in her heirloom stock pot.😱
Yea I tough the same...
Yeah. Not just dead, either. Horrifically killed, completely unexpectedly, by the thing she loves most.
Sad to think at the point her son was stabbing her husband at that point and she's probably thinking about arranging dinner for them when she gets back
@@Taperack123 Or the fact that the father, while dying, was well aware of what was going to happen to his wife when she got home. I just...ugh. So unimagineably awful.
The stepdaughter saying she admired Lisa so much that she wanted to be exactly like her is a testimony to the amazing person she must have been. Rest in peace
I hope she raises her son differently than Lisa raised hers.
That woman…who talked about the times spent with her dad and stepmother…are so poignant. Even in the retelling…you can feel how wonderful …how profound this experience was for her sister and her. The stepmother sounds like the kind of woman easy to like. Which makes how she and the father died…even more reprehensible.
I just didn't like how she threw her real mom under the bus...mentioning empty cupboards. Maybe the dad should have paid more child support instead of spoiling his deranged son
Cold emotionless eyes as he listens to the testimony - at times almost smirking and looking smug. What a disgusting narcissistic creep.
Ye i noticed that he was holding back the smile hard
I hope he becomes someone’s little b*tch in prison. I don’t think he’ll be quite so smug.
I wonder if he thought he would get away with it? He sure looked super comfy while ME explained the damage on the bodies. What’s fucking creep.
Duping delight. Narcissists with psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies can’t resist smirking.
@@43MinutesWithJamieRose Yes!
I thought this was called “Monsters” not “Morons” Who makes notes on how to kill and dispose of bodies. No wonder he had been in college for 9 years.
Yeah, it came off to me like he had the "perfect murder" all planned out in his head, and that he thought he was so smart... but it didn't work out so well in real life. Which is good for us, because it was so easy to catch him.
This dude really had no idea what he had, and how much his family did for him, and he just destroyed it all...
I love that he's a moron. They caught him and jailed him for life this guys a spoiled idiot.
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Welcome to the channel hahah
Reminds me of the wire "are you taking notes on a criminal fucking conspiracy?"
Lisa and Joel looked like the perfect couple , so happy and still in love after so many years together. I could only dream about parents like them and everything they provided for their kids growing up. RIP Lisa&Joel ❤️🇺🇸❤️
Gotta say, most couples I know don't last that long, they often end up getting married twice or thrice, & when asked why, it's always "because my wife is a scum" "she was a covert narcissist" "my ex was a incel" "He's an abusive scum" lol, I was surprised how joel & Lisa's marriage was still upbeat & strong even after 31 years, they were really soulmates ❤
I love the way he was sentenced! 134 years old! Ha! Put that in your notebook Joel!
God, hearing Joel Sr.'s daughter talk about Lisa was so heartbreaking. As somebody with step-parents : you know that somebody's a good person when even their step-kids love them. Lisa and Joel Sr. deserved so much better then their pathetic excuse of a son.
I literally cannot fathom the stupidity of the "to-do list" he made
Dude probably barely could read his own writing..dude went full Jeffrey dohmer
It`s not the first time a killer make a to-do list, not very smart.
Right?! He thought he was some kind of genius lol
He’s been a “student” his whole life, apparently.
For real lol how would someone not think “hmm yeah maybe I should get rid of this paper detailing how I’m going to murder them…” but nah this dude just went “eh fuck it”
This is taking entitlement to a whole new level. This guy is Unbelievable 😳. How did this person become this way?
Crappy parenting
Sad to say but the bad parenting was definitely a factor
@@rachelc8715 Yes, because clearly, no one is ever born bad, the parents were monsters who deserved to be murdered and every single kid who's raised by doting parents or even slightly spoiled grows up to be a murderer. 🙄 Idio†.
He was a malignant narcissist, and I mean that in a clinical sense. He truly thought he was superior to everyone else (imagine looking like THAT and believing you're the pinnacle of human evolution, blech), and that he deserved to be handed everything. He genuinely does not see other people as human, just a means to an end. Once they stop being useful to him, they're disposable.
You people screeching "bAd pArEnTiNg" should be ashamed of themselves. Just because they loved and supported their son for so long doesn't make them bad parents. Going by your warped logic, their other kids would have all been murderous sociopaths, too. And yet, they all turned out fine. Funny, that. It's almost like their parenting wasn't the issue, here.
It's just a fact of life, some people are just born bad.
Psychopathy has a pretty strong genetic component.
When I heard "Louisiana School for Math Science and the Arts class of 06" i screamed and went find my year book and sure enough, he's in there! I graduated the very next year and went t school with him. That's messed up.
The fact that you can watch the Mother checking out at the grocery store and she had less than 30 minutes or so to live is extremely heartbreaking
Wheww 😖
Especially thinking as a parent we always text or call our children & hubby when we are shopping and ask them if there’s anything they want from the store. Little did she know what her own child that she brought into this world and raise had in store for her Smh. He had a lovely upbringing yet was drawn to murder by greed. This just goes to show that it doesn’t matter if there is abuse at home or love , if someone wants to murder, they will and they can. This world is so hideous.
Or the footage of the murderer after he had murdered them 🤢
@LaweiboDotCom You sound like you still live with your mom.
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What brilliance! I’m surprised he got caught.
I LOVE your REAL comments in all your stuff…”get the fuck outta here!”😂😂😂😂
He was so motivated to murder them. Imagine putting that effort into his life and getting a job
He acts so entitled it's disgusting
He did this to avoid working. I just can’t
@@rottingravensblood9106 To true..
That takes more than a few days of effort though
@@rottingravensblood9106 scammers i agree with, but the return for robbing or murdering for insurance money is much larger and it happens quickly...Its effort in short bursts not grinding away daily like all of us not crazies do
His defense attorney sounds like he's just waiting for this case to be over so he can get to a case he might actually have a chance at.
Probably take a shower too & get away from this guy. (No pun intended)
Easiest money a defense lawyer/team ever made. No cross examination and no defense witnesses.
@@psychofish2585 ...
The majority of defense lawyers get paid very little if anything. I don't blame this lawyer for only doing the very minimal for this pos.
That lawyer though 😂😂😂
Rule #1: DO NOT WRITE DOWN YOUR CRIMES! Simon Whistler is going to freak out! 🤣
I was thinking the same thing!😝
I like how your channel shows actual footage of the people and courtroom footage surrounding the case. A lot of shitty lower quality crime channels would do a 4 minute video in this case and just be them reading a short article over a mugshot photo. Your hard work shows, thank you sir
Yeah I like the testimony footage too.
These videos make my night I hope your a millionaire my friend kudos on the narration and footwork ..bravo
Yes, sooo many shitty generic JCS knockoffs. This channel is a gem and stands on it's own regardless of the recent JCS wannabes
Some viewers _prefer_ a quick overview of cases that hit the media, so they know the basics without devoting much time to details.
It's possible to appreciate this channel's awesome content and hard work they put into it without talking crap about other channels.
I feel the opposite tbh. He just pads out his videos with clips that he doesn’t have to edit. Easy way to get your videos to a good length for the algorithm without actually doing any more work.
Man that face shield just rounds out this guys look perfectly.
Lol, yup. He’s a bad body built cretin…. If Simple Simon was a person looking Heathen!
Yep
He looks like a thumb, and the face shield is a fingernail.
It's the kind of face that you can call a "fists magnet"
He's very smug & unfortunate looking man.
Hopefully his life in prison is a living hell.
The very people he was repulsed by are now his peers.
OMG!! This "thing" is not just any Monster, he's like Dr. Frankenstein Monster. I wonder what people that know him think about him because no one capable of doing this can act like a normal human being. Thank goodness for his Mom's boss. She deserves an award.
What a happy and outgoing guy.
I’m glad they made him wear the clear shield so he couldn’t hide behind a mask and jury could watch his expressions or lack of.
Probably the exact reason why they did that.
You know I never thought of that. That was a good move. Watching these type of stories I used to get annoyed when the killer/s faked cried etc but to see no emotion whatsoever in such a gruesome murder is so nerving.
@@littletinywalters I never thought of that either, that's so smart!
>basic standard practice done for obvious reasons
"Wow that's so smart, I never would have thought of that!"
Bet you sometimes forget to breathe, too.
@@norgepalm7315 you say that but they didn’t do it with the other cases if you had watched all the other episodes so….. can’t be that standard. Bet you forget about not being a twat. It happens
i just realized that joel jr wrote "lol" on his father's forged suicide note
LOL (36:36)
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hilarious
Such an unjust end for such hardworking and loving people. It’s hard to understand why things like this happen sometimes. 😔
The defense lawyer is the equivalent to " trust me bro" lol.. "He was happy and outgoing" 😂
Defense lawyer To Judge: My guy I have to say something, just hear me out 😂.
Welp... looks like a classic domestic violence. He killed his wife then cut his own arms and hands off (impressive none the less) and hopped into a lye bath. Its practically the perfect crime.
Cant forget he also cut off his own legs after cutting of his hands and arms
I didn't think I'd be laughing, but this comment is gold
Classic murder suicide.
Lol
Nice
when i first heard his parent did everything for him, even as an ADULT. i knew it wasn’t gonna be good.
Exactly 🙄😣
Hell even Billy Madison and Step Brothers grew up and got a life
Exactly
@@ttke39 those are movies
Umm there are plenty of hardworking self sufficient people who murder and dismember their families . . . in fact those people constitute the norm on this channel.
He had a wonderful family who loved and cared for him. And instead of using his intelligence to make something out of himself, and make his family proud, he wasted it away. He's a selfish person who used his parents and when they didn't want to do for him anymore, they weren't worth nothing to him. Its sad that he took his wonderful parents not only away from himself, but from his other siblings as well. The way he sits in court and looks at all the pain and suffering and chaos he has caused, and just holds his head high with absolutely no care at all is sickening. He had a life that a lot of people would kill to have. And here he took his parents life and ruined everyone else's. He's the definition of a lazy entitled loser.
🕯️🙏🏻🕊️ Prayers & condolences for the surviving Adult Children & extended family of these victims 😢🕯️🕊️🙏🏻
Such a horrible crime made even worse by that fact that it was a family member who'd done it. Lisa has been described with the greatest of honours. Imagine having had such a positive impact on young lives that they want to grow up to be just like you, just as caring, just as giving, just as loving. Probably the greatest honour we as humans can receive. By the children of her husband in his prior marriage none the less. Yet her own child was so self entitled, that he couldn't even see that what was being done for him was something very few ever get. So horribly tragic, made all the worse by the fact that it was family 🕯️🕊️🙏🏻😢
Those notes were written out like damn baking instructions 😭
I had a 9 month period of unemployment last year due to COVID and I went stir crazy pretty fast.
I cant imagine not having a job for 27 years and deciding an elaborate double murder and cover up is easier than applying to Arby's.
I didn't work for like 3 months last year after getting out of the Air Force and fell into a depressive episode because of my listlessness. Even though I was starting college in a few months and was just waiting to start.
Worker drones love slaving for fake money. I haven't worked in 8 months and will never work for another man or be taxed again.
@@TheRealJaded Ok.
I've been in ur situation. It's hard, but luckily I made it. Hope u're doing well now.
Cool, did someone ask about your feelings? Im still looking in the comments for who asked if "IamPinhead" likes to work or nah.
It's pretty amazing that we allow people like this to live. He'll still get to eat food, read books, play card games, make friends. Yeah he's in prison but he's not dead.
an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind
@@gothgrrl8711 I think both eyes would look the other way in this case
I’m sure he will make lots of friends 😂
I'm against the death penalty because I'm better than theses maniacs, but they should be locked up, kept alone in the the cold without any kind of contacts till they go insane. Kept alive as long as possible in a 4x6 cell lightened up all the times. That's would be a fitting punishment.
seriously and this crime was so gruesome..I still can't believe what he did to his mom after everything she did for him
You have to wonder would Joel Guy have been this diaboical regardless of what his parents did or didn't do for him. Is a person born destined to be a diabolical narcisistic sociopath or do they evolve into one based on their enviornment or circumstances. I think his parents unknowingly contributed to his mentality by spoiling him his entire life and then finally doing what they should have done ages ago which is cut him off.
My parents made the same mistake with my sister. She drove my mother into an early grave by birthing 4 children that she did not take care of. Sh just dropped them off on my parents to raise like a stork which was incredibly physicaly and financially straining for them. She continued having those children after they were both retired and living on retirement income.
I used to be so frustrated with my parents for letting her get away with murder. They were always fixing it so she never had to pay for the consequences of her poor choices and financing her lifestyle even though she wasn't raising her own 4 children. I kept telling them you need to cut her off and they never would. She just became more unhinged as she got older. I personally won't have anything to do with her. I left the state so I could be 1 thousand miles away from her and the havock she reeks on our family.
He gets to be taken care of for life, exactly what he wanted.
I'm sure it will warm your heart, like it has warmed mine to know that nobody will be there to put money on his prison account. He will have no choice but to work. In an ironic sort of roundabout way he screwed himself over for the rest of his life.
@@timothystone3360 thanks, this did warm my heart lol
The only stuff he'll get for free is maybe a few pieces of paper, an envelope, and a little bar of soap. Even then, I bet he would still have to clean and work anyway. If he didn't, it's not like he would be able to enjoy much of anything and even if prison wasn't miserable enough on it's own, I'm pretty sure the other prisoners and guards hate him and will make sure he's paying for what he did
@@timothystone3360 this warm my heart like boiling ramen noodles Joel works his ass off for
@@juniperconifer4408 Lol brilliant, thats right, he gotta work if he wants any commissary
"The Penguin's " origin story. Life before Arkham.
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Didn’t the penguin love his mother to a fault? He would have never killed his momma like this evil little man.
That's just hilarious. LMAO 🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆.
Classic 🤣🤣🤣
That work supervisor is a hero in my book for insisting that they double check the welfare check on the co-worker, what a caring person!
I’ve watched many videos and read articles on this case and this one is by far the best coverage of everything I’ve seen. I appreciate the important details you included with clips of the actual trial. Love your channel and can’t wait to get my “It’s never a mannequin” shirt!!! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
OMG, the very definition of cognitive dissonance. But it’s never a mannequin, sadly.
I agree, hi from Havre de Grace MD USA 🇺🇸 ♥️ 🙏
The way he casually swivels back and forth in his chair, while listening to the gruesome details of his horrific actions, makes me so angry. What a waste of all his parents poured into him. 🤬
Well... they got what they paid for.
@@Darrylizer1 sadly that's true.😧
He thinks he's going to get away with it....his smug face in court...but he's gotten everything else in his life for free...lazy F#ck...sorry
Wait what did they pour into him? A work ethic? A sense of morality & decency? Empathy, loyalty, & kindness?
They enabled him & spoiled him his entire life, & he is a direct result of that.
@@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607 That is for sure.
His lawyers are bound by the law to give an adequate defense. Listening to his lawyer it's clear he wasn't into defending him, but he's doing his duty. If he didn't, Joel would have had a good chance at an appeal for insufficient/inadequate defense. Don't bash the defense lawyers just for doing their job.
Did you read the notes they proved he made? Any appeal is waste of non murderous people's taxpayer money. He literally wrote notes that word for word match the crime scene that is on camera. This is not a human being
Well said. Why waste even a second bashing a lawyer defending someone who’s as guilty as can be. At least the defence didnt make up a bunch of lies, like claiming that the parents were abusive people to harm their characters.
The lawyer sounds like he's forced to do something he doesn't want. Lol.
It seems like the defense team here did the least amount of work required by law so they can keep their jobs. They hate this incel creep's guts. They knew he did it. But they still need to do their jobs. A weak argument that is easily rebutted will serve.
Can you imagine trying to defend him? They have him on camera? The whole thing written down? There's no coming back from that
Dear god
What kind of sick monster kills their own parents…
Omg! Im from Knoxville and I remember when this happened. I always wanted to know more. Thank you for this!!
I cried when the step daughter described how much she admired her step mother and wanted to be like her. Wish I could of met her.
I grew up poor but I was happy. My mother was a single parent who raised me right. I appreciate the simple things that she could afford to give me. How this guy can dismembered his parents after all they did for him. This is the worst case ever.
Money makes people crazy. I'm not saying that excuses his actions, not at all. But what I am saying is that when a huge pile of money is on the line then people will do some desperate things to get their hands on it. Go ask a lawyer who deals with probate cases and she'll tell you some stories about families being at each other's throats over even moderate inheritances.
Yes it is spare the rod spoil the child
AMEN!!!!
The completely calm, untroubled look on this guy's face as he's hearing the descriptions of his parents' injuries. It's monstrous. Monsters is the right word.
You dk poor… trust me, I have stories that you’d dread
Love the daughter complaining about her single mom's struggle and the lack of meat at the table.
So rude...Maybe guy sr shoukd have made sure his daufhters had food instead of spoiling his deranged son.
@@lorelaigilrour seriously!
If I was a janitor for that court room, I would triple clean everything he touch.
Imagine listen to this in court after your brother merciless murdered your parents, i can't imagine what his siblings are going through.
Yeah his poor sisters they must be so heartbroken. And knowing it was your half brother that took away BOTH your parents.
One of most selfish,spoiled,disgusting excuse for a son I have heard of. His parents were so in love too...you can just see it. This kind of criminal scares me the most.
THAT boss tho. She really saved this case. Seriously, God Bless her.
Also...kinda LOVE how he had to wear that face shield during trial...too bad it didn't have some covid droplets on it just for him...come to think of it, that's still too gentle for him.
If anyone you know has been infected, please know I mean no disrespect and I don't intentionally mean to make light of it. Take care of eachother everyone.
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I don't blame you for wishing covid on this monster. But if covid was a person, I imagine Covid taking the greatest exception to that remark! (Even Covid woulda let the dog out!!)
So true, I seriously love that boss. I didn't want to feel like I was 'jumping' on the first officers, but that missing back door knob should have raised at least an eyebrow?
@Jane Thalken
Hindsight is 20/20.
Besides, cops probably see houses in all states of disrepair, so a missing doorknob wouldn't initially be a damning piece of evidence.
It's hard to imagine such a lack of any virtuous quality. Parenticide is usually motivated by emotions. Joel wasn't even left out of the will. He literally did it just to avoid having to get a job. It's not like he felt he was abused, hallucinating, or had any honor in who he stole from.