I’m quite impressed with this soldering station and the power it has. While the temperature curve graph may not be useful for some people, I actually like it. Build quality looks good and it’s nice to see that they used a big heatsink for the power mosfets. By the way, when you did the tear down and you weren’t sure of what the two connectors were for at 31:16, they are where you connect the x2 helping hands that should have been supplied with the soldering station. So one on each side. I’m not sure if you were supplied with them though because I couldn’t see it anywhere when you were doing the unboxing. But looking on their website this is what the connectors are used for. Thanks for this review too Hugo.
The robotic arm interface are the positions where you can lock in the helping hands. The helping hands can be ordered as a supplemental from the fnirsi site.
My problem with these JBC clones is that the majority donsen't have a proper transformer inside. That influences the temperature while soldering something grounded. And i know thats not the ideal, but if it happens, the iron temperature starts rising. Thats the case with the Aixun 32A/B, and they reaolved that issue with software that conceals the problem. Also you get aproximatly 1V at the tip...i've been browsing your channel and you have very good videos. It would be cool if you made a video recomending some soldering stations with T245 and T210 compatibility that don't break the buck.
Another great test and review. I will say that the 200W rating should be tested somehow. JBC's T245 stations are rated only for 130W, so it's questionable whether the tips can handle 200W. However, it's obvious that this station has plenty of power and heats the tips almost instantly, so I'm not suggesting that it's under-powered; just that the power rating seems too high when compared with JBC's own stations. A genuine JBC T245 tip heater is about 2.5-ohms and the power supply is about 24VDC, giving a potential power of 230W. However, JBC stations do actually deliver that much power to the tip. It would be difficult to measure the tip power directly, but we could at least measure the total power draw from the wall with a kill-a-watt device and see if it makes sense as the circuitry and display would waste only a small amount and we could subtract idle power from max power to largely negate the overhead. The graph on the display screen suggests that the circuitry is capable of delivering full power when necessary, but it would be interesting to know how much that actually is. You likely didn't need to manually check the temperatures from the main page as I believe that the calibration page automatically powers the tip to the selected calibration temperature. There shouldn't be a reason to switch back and forth between the main and calibration pages to check and adjust all 3 temperatures.
Hi, thanks for your careful comment. I can't assure if the 200W are real, but it really handles well everything I though at it, I was pretty happy with it. That idea for measuring the watts from the main line is good, I will see if in another possible followup video if I will do it. Thanks for the tip and watching!
To answer the question about the 'robotic arm connectors' on the sides, follow your own link to the FNRSI site and see the first picture in the listing! I think something was gained in translation!
Hi John, sorry this super late reply, trying to catchup all the comments in backlog. I do receive the "helping hands or robotic harms" later with other products to review, I get it now. Thanks for watching and sharing!
Hi, sorry this late reply. The side connectors are for "helping hands" to help you with soldering. I receive mine some time later on another order with more products to review. I will do asap as possible a followup video with that and few more topics users asked. Thanks for watching.
The power meter barely rose during heating the solder blobs, so not really delivering 200W. It would be interesting to stick the tip in water and swirl it, see if the power delivery increases. Or try heating a big block of aluminium.
Noticed on the FNIRSI store on Amazon that the "adaptors" on the left and right sides of the case accept what appears to be flexible ~15" (guessing) "wires" with alligator clips - guess like helper hands.
FNIRSI 'robotic arms' are just 'third-hand clips' that can hold something while keeping your hands free. There's nothing robotic about it, it’s likely a translation error or so.
Hi, after the video was published, I received mine pair with another products received to review, it'n not my first choice to have helping hand in the solder station, but it is one feature. Thanks for watching and sharing, really appreciated.
welding and soldering are 2 different method of joining metals, welding is when you simultaneously melt the base metal and the filler , so on this case is not welding but soldering
Hello, I am curious to know if this device experiences the same voltage and amperage leakage issue on the tip as the Aixun T3A. The test performed on the Aixun by @Tony359 was quite revealing. Thank you for your time.
I'm curious too - FNIRSI website says the DWS-200 features a "Built-in high-power pure copper transformer" which I don't see in this excellent review. Is this definitely a genuine Fnirsi unit?
Hi @tony359, I get my equipment directly from FNIRSI, they might changed it after the review, but his one came directly from the factory for the review. Thanks for watching.
Perhaps it is because I am an old man, but do you really need all these features, I love my old Weller WSD81. A 80 watt soldering station wich does the job perfect. But I understand, it looks nice on the bench. The only thing that worries me is the curled wire from the station, it is soo thin, can it handle 200 Watt? Perhaps you must measure the current from it, is it really 200 Watt?
Hi, first, let me appologie for this late reply. I have a huge backlog of comments to catchup and right now is over 2 months delay. I will do followup videos on this soldering station, I can try to measure it as you suggested. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Hi, it has 2 power buttons. The first is in the back and is mechanical and cuts the power to the device, the second is on the front and power it off completelly, but it should be like in a standby state, is a soft power button. Thanks for watching!
Wow that is impressive thing. It is a bit like electronic porn and it makes me thinking about to replace my weller soldering station. This is decades old but it still does what it should do. But this thing looks good and have a lot to play with. But some questions are remain. What is the aproximately life span of these kind of tips? The main unit with the big cooling block did not get hot over the time of use? The good thing there is a real power switch but why on the backside? I have some devices at my workplace multimeter, scope, powersupply, computer . . . The standby power of a single device is not much but the complete workplace has a remarkable standby power consumption and not all the time i will use the general main switch to power of the complete workplace. But this is just a detail . . .
200W!? That's overkill, isn't it? Can it go beyond 400 degrees? Is it working with 48v or 60v? Why so many watts, and no real advantage? Sure, in the year 1995 Gates though 1mb of RAM would be enough forever, so... I'm probably wrong, but trying to understand.
No. Not overkill. Specialised. It is for soldering big thermal mass joints. The extra power goes to heating up joints with a lot of metal. Not to making the iron hotter, but to keeping it at the set temperature, in spite of the job sucking so much energy out.
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I’m quite impressed with this soldering station and the power it has. While the temperature curve graph may not be useful for some people, I actually like it. Build quality looks good and it’s nice to see that they used a big heatsink for the power mosfets.
By the way, when you did the tear down and you weren’t sure of what the two connectors were for at 31:16, they are where you connect the x2 helping hands that should have been supplied with the soldering station. So one on each side. I’m not sure if you were supplied with them though because I couldn’t see it anywhere when you were doing the unboxing. But looking on their website this is what the connectors are used for.
Thanks for this review too Hugo.
The robotic arm interface are the positions where you can lock in the helping hands. The helping hands can be ordered as a supplemental from the fnirsi site.
Hi, I see now. I received yesterday a new product to review and they sent me the helping hands, now I get it. Thanks for watching.
My problem with these JBC clones is that the majority donsen't have a proper transformer inside. That influences the temperature while soldering something grounded. And i know thats not the ideal, but if it happens, the iron temperature starts rising. Thats the case with the Aixun 32A/B, and they reaolved that issue with software that conceals the problem. Also you get aproximatly 1V at the tip...i've been browsing your channel and you have very good videos. It would be cool if you made a video recomending some soldering stations with T245 and T210 compatibility that don't break the buck.
Another great test and review. I will say that the 200W rating should be tested somehow. JBC's T245 stations are rated only for 130W, so it's questionable whether the tips can handle 200W. However, it's obvious that this station has plenty of power and heats the tips almost instantly, so I'm not suggesting that it's under-powered; just that the power rating seems too high when compared with JBC's own stations.
A genuine JBC T245 tip heater is about 2.5-ohms and the power supply is about 24VDC, giving a potential power of 230W. However, JBC stations do actually deliver that much power to the tip.
It would be difficult to measure the tip power directly, but we could at least measure the total power draw from the wall with a kill-a-watt device and see if it makes sense as the circuitry and display would waste only a small amount and we could subtract idle power from max power to largely negate the overhead. The graph on the display screen suggests that the circuitry is capable of delivering full power when necessary, but it would be interesting to know how much that actually is.
You likely didn't need to manually check the temperatures from the main page as I believe that the calibration page automatically powers the tip to the selected calibration temperature. There shouldn't be a reason to switch back and forth between the main and calibration pages to check and adjust all 3 temperatures.
Hi, thanks for your careful comment. I can't assure if the 200W are real, but it really handles well everything I though at it, I was pretty happy with it. That idea for measuring the watts from the main line is good, I will see if in another possible followup video if I will do it. Thanks for the tip and watching!
To answer the question about the 'robotic arm connectors' on the sides, follow your own link to the FNRSI site and see the first picture in the listing! I think something was gained in translation!
Hi John, sorry this super late reply, trying to catchup all the comments in backlog. I do receive the "helping hands or robotic harms" later with other products to review, I get it now. Thanks for watching and sharing!
Those side connectors might be for optional accessories, like handle wire holder. To keep the wire off the work area.
Hi, sorry this late reply. The side connectors are for "helping hands" to help you with soldering. I receive mine some time later on another order with more products to review. I will do asap as possible a followup video with that and few more topics users asked. Thanks for watching.
The power meter barely rose during heating the solder blobs, so not really delivering 200W. It would be interesting to stick the tip in water and swirl it, see if the power delivery increases. Or try heating a big block of aluminium.
Noticed on the FNIRSI store on Amazon that the "adaptors" on the left and right sides of the case accept what appears to be flexible ~15" (guessing) "wires" with alligator clips - guess like helper hands.
Hi Henry, you're right. Some time later I receive my "helping hands" for the soldering station. Thanks for watching and sharing.
PS - Sorry the late reply, trying to catchup with all the comments on backlog.
FNIRSI 'robotic arms' are just 'third-hand clips' that can hold something while keeping your hands free. There's nothing robotic about it, it’s likely a translation error or so.
Hi, after the video was published, I received mine pair with another products received to review, it'n not my first choice to have helping hand in the solder station, but it is one feature. Thanks for watching and sharing, really appreciated.
welding and soldering are 2 different method of joining metals, welding is when you simultaneously melt the base metal and the filler , so on this case is not welding but soldering
Can you test with a device connected to ground? Aixun station have problems with that, spike temps and not detecting tips
Hi, I have a queue of more 20 devices to test and not time available, I will try to do it on a possible follow up video. Thanks for watching.
Hello,
I am curious to know if this device experiences the same voltage and amperage leakage issue on the tip as the Aixun T3A.
The test performed on the Aixun by @Tony359 was quite revealing.
Thank you for your time.
I'm curious too - FNIRSI website says the DWS-200 features a "Built-in high-power pure copper transformer" which I don't see in this excellent review. Is this definitely a genuine Fnirsi unit?
Hi, I have a big queue of devices to review, as soon I have an opening I will test it and show it here. Thanks for watching.
Hi @tony359, I get my equipment directly from FNIRSI, they might changed it after the review, but his one came directly from the factory for the review. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV Thanks. FNirsi actually confirmed it's SMPS and not linear PSU - the advert is incorrect (not a surprise!).
Perhaps it is because I am an old man, but do you really need all these features, I love my old Weller WSD81. A 80 watt soldering station wich does the job perfect. But I understand, it looks nice on the bench. The only thing that worries me is the curled wire from the station, it is soo thin, can it handle 200 Watt? Perhaps you must measure the current from it, is it really 200 Watt?
Hi, first, let me appologie for this late reply. I have a huge backlog of comments to catchup and right now is over 2 months delay. I will do followup videos on this soldering station, I can try to measure it as you suggested. Thanks for watching and sharing.
wait, it doesn't have the option to turn the iron completely off when in the iron holder??
Hi, it has 2 power buttons. The first is in the back and is mechanical and cuts the power to the device, the second is on the front and power it off completelly, but it should be like in a standby state, is a soft power button. Thanks for watching!
hi man, your welding skills are good, I need this method to help me🤩, thank you❤
Wow that is impressive thing.
It is a bit like electronic porn and it makes me thinking about to replace my weller soldering station. This is decades old but it still does what it should do. But this thing looks good and have a lot to play with.
But some questions are remain.
What is the aproximately life span of these kind of tips?
The main unit with the big cooling block did not get hot over the time of use?
The good thing there is a real power switch but why on the backside?
I have some devices at my workplace multimeter, scope, powersupply, computer . . .
The standby power of a single device is not much but the complete workplace has a remarkable standby power consumption and not all the time i will use the general main switch to power of the complete workplace. But this is just a detail . . .
Witam. Proszę dodać język polski do tłumaczenia.Dziękuję.
Hi, the translation is made automatically by youtube. By now it should be available. Thanks for watching.
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200W!? That's overkill, isn't it? Can it go beyond 400 degrees? Is it working with 48v or 60v? Why so many watts, and no real advantage?
Sure, in the year 1995 Gates though 1mb of RAM would be enough forever, so... I'm probably wrong, but trying to understand.
No. Not overkill. Specialised. It is for soldering big thermal mass joints.
The extra power goes to heating up joints with a lot of metal. Not to making the iron hotter, but to keeping it at the set temperature, in spite of the job sucking so much energy out.
@@JohnBailey39 Thanks for the input. Makes sense, of course.
@@eraldylli No problem. It can be hard to tell pointless overkill and legitimate need apart sometimes.