Debunking & Exposing The Orchestrated Viral Vice Gun Debate
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Vice Gun Debate
bit.ly/2CHLudt
A video produced by Vice featured a so-called "Round Table Gun Debate" in which many far-fetched statements were made, including advising someone facing a home invasion by two armed individuals with AR-15's to simply leave the house instead of fighting back.
Additionally, one gentleman tried to invalidate the second amendment because they stated the Constitution was written by wealthy white slave-owning misogynists.
Another outspoken participant on the panel was a victim of gun violence, but what he doesn't realize is that this does not necessarily make them an expert on the gun debate any more than being hit by a drunk driver would make someone an expert on car safety.
Here is my video debunking and exposing the orchestrated viral gun debate produced by Vice.
Join MY Exclusive 2A Advocacy Text List while AUTOMATICALLY being entered in our monthly 2A Giveaways
➡️ bit.ly/3FFLHJi
Let's Go Brandon Merchandise
➡️ bit.ly/3EbcXP8
Get UnApologetically 2A Content In Short-Form On RUclips & Help Protect The Second Amendment
➡️www.youtube.co...
FREE BOOK - If I Only Had One Concealed Carry
➡️ www.mrcolionno...
PRO 2A Message Hats In Trucker, Dad, Snapback & More
➡️ shop.mrcolionn...
Looking to help further our Pro Constitution, Pro 2A message, donate below:
www.MrColionNo...
UnApologetically 2A Content Content On Other Platforms:
Twitter - / mrcolionnoir
Instagram - / colionnoir
Facebook - / colionnoir
Gab - gab.com/Colion...
Truth Social- truthsocial.co...
RUclips Shorts - ruclips.net/user/co...
#2ANews #ColionNoir 
Развлечения
Graffiti = Blame the person
Stabbing = Blame the person
Hit & Run = Blame the person
Alcohol intoxication = Blame the person
Shooting = Blame the inanimate object
The lefts position on all of those is 'blame the system' actually. Personal accountability is an anathema to them these days, especially when it comes to criminal matters.
Rape = blame the man not his genitals
Thank you!
Are they blaming the knives in Europe also?
@@mikelbrenn111 not yet but they do have a size limit, oh right they have a size limit of knives in the USA also.
I was a victim of an attempted carjacking in Chicago last July. The carjacker ran up to my car with a gun pointed at me. He fired once. I returned fire and hit him three times. He is now in jail with attempted murder charges against him. My firearm saved my life and the life of my eleven year old daughter, who was sitting in the back seat of my car.
Uh oh, a prime example of defending your family. Better sweep that under the rug with the rest...
I'm amazed you have a carry permit in Illinois.
@@K37-h1z we were the last state to get concealed carry, but we are a shall issue state now.
@@johnryan6658 oh wow, good to know
Im sorry you both had to go through that. Im from the south suburbs and while chicago gets things x100 worse we still feel what the city goes through. Gun crime and violent crime is picking up down by us in more recent years. Again im sorry you both had to go through that
“Just run…”
“Weren’t you yourself like… shot?”
“Yes. I was”
“What are you slow or what?”
😂
Too many donuts
I once dated a woman who said if she couldn't escape, she would rather let an intruder do whatever they were there to do than use a gun to put them down. I knew she shouldn't be the mother to my children right then and there.
Smart man. You kept it holstered and did not let any rounds fly within crazy. Thinking with the bigger brain is always the better idea.
When someone doesn't have the mama-bear instinct, that's a big red flag. How anyone values the life of a predator over their own, or their children's is beyond me.
You dodged an artillery barrage, she has no survival instinct. You'll find a better woman.
I’d almost bet once she becomes a mother her attitude will change. I’ve see it many times. I would never put money on the attacker of a momma with a baby
@@281cu6 I understand submitting to a rapist as a form of survival, but only as a last ditch measure.
Someone saying that they won't even entertain the idea of even having a weapon for self defense is what is batshit crazy.
The funniest and saddest part was when he said guns give a false sense of security but then turns around and says a porch light is a good deterrent.
My oven’s clock displays very brightly… I cannot be robbed 🤷♂️
Its honestly that simple
🤦♀️😂
My porch light has lasers. Pew pew!
That's always hilarious because guns are actually the least false sense of security you can have. An intruder can be hard stopped by 9mm, but padlocks and alarm systems and whatever other bullshit is just deterrent
@@RedMo46 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Nathan-Roman Hopefully a would-be intruder if they aren't killed gets a hard reset in the commonsense department and then the gun goes from being a hard stopper to a Hard Factory Reset option.
Fight back.
Learn how.
Never give power to those that would deny your rights.
Well said
Or those who would attempt to take away your freedoms!
The left should be encamped.
Should show that one guy hiem footage of armed theives holding families hostage in their home.
Hell yeah
Their argument is essentially: If someone wants to hurt you you have to let them.
And if you don't, then you're a bad person.
Or run hide fight
The best option is to flee or evade if you're a slave, a wimp, a coward, or a simp.
What every our standing army has we should be able to have.
@@smokingcrab2290 😂😂😂😂😂 underrated comment
“Oh he’s pulled a gun out on me, I should flee and run away because it’s illegal for him to shoot me in the back” 🤦🏻♂️
Nobody ever gets stuck in a life/death situation and thinks “wow thank God I don’t have a weapon”
THIS……!!!!!!!!
Guarantee that dude hasn't been shot, was just a talking point for him.
best argument i have used against anit -(i say rights rather than guns) rights is "do you wear a seatbelt ? if so why ? "
During the “in Buffalo” part of the discussion, I imagined someone hiding for their life among the store aisles suddenly seeing an AR-15 on the shelf…but saying “wait, no, that would be more dangerous for me.” 😳
That imaginary “thought process” scenario is precisely that - fantasyland.
Nobody in a gun fight ever said, "Boy, I sure wish I had less ammo"
vice: “have you ever shot a gun”
them: “no”
vice: “come talk on our panel about guns”
Exactly 💯! If you haven't shot a gun I don't care about your opinion.
i mean they invited two males on a panel to discuss feminism and women’s rights. vice isn’t exactly known for having standards
@@jake.porter man dont even start with that😭 that was one of the most disrespectful things ive ever seen
💯
Or:
Vice “have you ever been a minority, gay, black, woman, transgender, self-identified victim, democrat, attendee at a mostly peaceful protest, hater of police, a racist towards white people?
Great! Come talk on our gun panel!”
@@7633Jes let's just ask the people that got shot and didn't have a gun to defend themselves what their opinion is on what standards the other 360 million people should live by. Maybe they think it would be fun to get shot and not have a chance to stop getting shot again. Let's send rifles to Ukraine real quick.
"It didn't say rich white guys, it said PEOPLE" My man 👊🏼
Notice how they never question the right to assemble as only reserved for right white people.
That's not a man... 😂
Funny how the same people that usually speak of skin color are the most racist. Who cares if they were purple, it’s what made our country what it is.
It didn't need to say rich white men, it was assumed at the time. At the time blacks were property, not people. The only people that had the right to vote at the time were white men who were property owners.
@@1997LT1Camaro Yes, but these same people call you racist if you don't see color.
We had our house broken into and the dude actually came up to my bedroom door that we had barricaded closed and tried to open it. I slammed it back in his face and told him I’d shoot him and he RAN.
I didn’t have a gun. It was a lie, but even the mention of a gun freaked him out. Now I have a gun and feel safer
Rightfully so.
Good deal
You have to love seeing the big guy saying "get out of that house" and the little woman replying "I stand my ground"
Showing how low T level are in these... Men ? Not sure we can give them this appellation.
She should've told him to take his pants off and give them to her.
JUST LEAVE YOUR HOUSE AND YOUR SLOW MOVING CHILDREN!!!!!! wow what great logic that idiot presented! How about mom dukes throws on her body armor and a war belt, slings up her AR and starts sending rounds of freedom chambered in 5.56 at the intruders to save and protect her castle and more importantly her and her children's lives. I really cant believe this is an actual "gun debate" man wth.
Mum would shoot an intruder, end of story.
@@ShyGuyInKilt That was an intentional choice.
I grew up in the hood. The only people who were left alone were the ones packing heat. My great grandfather lived in the same house for 50 years he lived in the same neighborhood I did. At the same time. The only time someone broke into his house the guy left in a body bag. And the gangs and the hoodlums never messed with him after that. Everyone in the area knew he had a gun on him at all times. He openly carried every single minute of every single day since he came back from veitnam. He is the man I idolized. And I do the same thing. Every time I step outside I have a gun.
I grew up poor and in the same spot.
That's something i notice. The vast majority of anti gun people are either Upper middle class/rich people, Or some sort of high ranking criminal.
Your great grandfather controlled his own fate. What a chad
God bless the killed children protecting our second ammendment. They are heroes.
@@ceooflonelinessinc.267 you support the black on black murders. That's evil
My Girlfriend was anti-gun. It took me 3 years to convince her to get a gun for protection. I sent her your videos all the time, btw. She loves the way you explain things.
She finally got her first gun, bought it, and she said she had a wow moment. She finally understood after buying her own gun. It's something that can't be explained. A right needs to be exercised before it's appreciated. You have to understand, I bought this gun. It is mine. This gun isn't causing crime. This gun will protect my family.
Same brotha I jus showed my girlfriend my gun the other day, ND had the same talk about her getting her own 💯
Glad you put in the work.
For the longest time my wife was also against ownership, wasn't till one night we had an attempted home invasion by multiple criminals that her tune completely changed. She now understands and is trained and goes to the range. If she is at home with the kids she can defend them without me being around. Without a firearm she would stand no chance against multiple intruders and having both children in the house. People can't see the forest through the trees on this issue till it hits them in the face. Not to mention seeing all the government over reach and deception that seems never ending. 2A is here to stay!
@@yourwack842 wait...who had the ND?
Great job. My girl is a democrat at heart. But she carries, she feels we all have the right to protect ourselves from the evil and the rising power of the government. I told her she’s not a democrat… 😅😅😅
Imagine telling a rape victim in court that she should have "gotten out the house" or run away. As if she should frickin have to. They would never make that argument because people would hate them for even suggesting such a thing.
Victim blaming is fine so long as a leftist is doing it.
I mean wouldn't that already be on their mind anyways to get away?
I always love the ‘totally unbiased’ moderator in these “debates” too.
I need to watch the whole thing, but seems like Tig(top left) and lady bottom right were the only pro-gun on the whole panel. Couldn't even out the conversation
Leading questions, Big time.
All these shorts show me is how poor our education system is, n9 wonder we are in such a fix our populace are morons.
"Think how dumb the average American is, then realize half are dumber than that!" George Carlin
Are you always superchatting timcast or Matt walsh? Your name sounds very familiar
@@rodneytuxedo7559Matt Walsh has read at least 6-10 of my comments on his show lol
Vice is about as left as it gets so I’m not surprised.
It doesn’t give me a false sense of confidence … It gives me a fighting chance🤨
Exactly basically an even playing field lol..gun vs gun
Exactly, the fact that I have one makes me want to avoid trouble even more.
I do not want to be in a car accident, but I still put on my seat belt every time I get into the car. Same goes for a self defense situation - I don't want to have to go through that, but similar to the seat belt there's no guarantee that it'll save me, but it stacks chances in my favor - my tools and training provides me hope in an otherwise hopeless situation.
@@matts6807 well said👌, I agree it doesn't mean that I want a confrontation but if it comes to defending my life or my family I will use a firearm to protect us.
That guy in the beginning of the video is not a man.
He is not somebody that you would want to protect your family.
I'd rather be in a house with that woman than that pathetic excuse for a man telling her she needs to run out of the house....
He is definitely not a protector not sure what happened to him but you need to sit on somebody's couch that woman that woman is a protector
@@ceedetroit482 I'd feel infinite times more safer around her, that dude would push you in the way of a bullet and just sprint out the door
He was probably raised by a single mother tbh, he reeks of femininity
I hate to say it but I agree 90 rounds from two magazines telling women and kids to leave the house what the hell so you go to Danger
Hes got his Wife's Boyfriend in his house to protect him.
"Just run out the house" my brother in christ, its not laser tag where if you get out of the zone the gun stops working.
When he said “a gun gives you a false sense of security” Colion really said “skill issue” 😂
What's appalling to me, is that this dude thinks people that own guns for self defense don't prefer to get away if they can... We do... I assure you if somebody breaks in my home, and I can get me and mine away from danger, I am...
Simply because of all the bullshyt that comes with a self defense shooting
1- you got a 99% chance of going to jail at least for interrogation
2- they are gonna seize your gun for at least several months and the chances of you getting it back aren't great
3- your gonna have to pay an attorney at least several thousand.. even if you don't get charged.
4- if you are charged , your life will absolutely be turned upside down and shook out... Even if you win
5- there's a chance you go to prison for ever
The odds are so far stacked against the law abiding citizen, that it's almost impossible to stay that way.
@@TheRealSwampOperator Depends on the State.
@@jaimesolis8362 it really doesnt. Distance is safety, regardless of the law. Even if you can legally do something, it doesnt mean its a good idea.
@@xenn4985 I think you're missing the point! If someone is breaking into your house, you don't know their intentions, whether they want to rob, kill or maybe just so high on drugs that they'll do anything! Just like you don't run from a predator because the human body isn't designed to run very well going backwards and you may not be able (or your children) to outrun a criminal and you definitely can't outrun a bullet, you may have to stand and fight! Having a firearm yourself is the easiest and for most people best way to defend yourself! And you always have the legal right to defend yourself, no matter what some Libturd says!
@@xenn4985always a good idea to remove the net negatives of society
It’s comical to me, how the one guy who is telling everyone they should run away from a bad guy with a gun is the guy who got shot by a bad guy with a gun. Apparently he couldn’t run fast enough.
Right, that guy is the type to run, leave his wife and kids in a harmful situation. And will say, "well, my family should've ran faster"
He didn’t get out the house fast enough
I’m curious, how do we know he was shot by a “bad guy with a gun?” Maybe, just maybe he was the bad guy who created the situation that got him shot. He talks like somebody who wants everybody but the criminal disarmed.
RIICCCCCKKKKYYYY
thinks he can outrun bullet
I’m a victim of gun violence and that made me want to train and own a gun more than anything so I never have to feel that helpless again
Any violence can have that effect. A coyote ran out of the woods and grabbed one of my pet chickens. I felt so helpless. I threw a stick at him but that did nothing. I carry a small pistol with me at all times now.
@@davidhomer78 fr it can be anything. I broke both my legs a year ago in a motorcycle accident and I physically can't run rn. A few months ago dogs attacked me at night on my property and if I wasn't armed it could have been really bad.
Amen
Good on you brother. I'm sorry that you had to endure that horror, but I do hope though that you can at least see a silver lining to be gleaned from it in that you chose to be proactive rather than reactive about it. God bless you, brother 💯
99%positive that dude is a paid actor. No way he believes all the crap coming out of his mouth. If he does then whoever shot him needs more practice.
The woman at 14:39 blew my mind. She basically said "If you don't think like me, you shouldn't have a gun". This is exactly why we need the 2A!
As soon as I heard "The Electoral College is flawed" I immediately knew this was a Coastal Elite wanting to control me here in TX
He's only considering himself a coastal elite cause he's from good old California, right? Where he has to rent with 4 other dudes in an apartment complex? What a flex
Agreed without the electoral college California and New York would decide every presidential election.
Coastal Elite = Soyfag?
@@mengx94 if he has to do that and is able to afford it, he is an elite income wide to most of the country.
Exactly OG Tank! The coastal elites say "Do as I say, Not as I do."
-Constitutional Carry Texan
Wow, dude left his man card at the hospital. He wants her to leave the house without her kids when two guys with ARs kick in the door? Wow. Then the woman doesn’t want to blame the shooter, but blame the manufacturer? The manufacture didn’t pull the trigger. These people truly don’t believe in self accountability. This is going to be a rough year dealing with these people.
Finding a person with self accountability is as rare as finding a unicorn, people can’t afford to be wrong because it’s humiliating to their ego, so they shift accountability else where.
He left more than just his man card
I hear you brother, this guy's from the planet hisanus , he is spewing out the stuff planet hisanus is known for. He's not worthy to be a father,thats for sure.
For those people I always say "tell ya what. I'll get into my car, crash into your house, kill you while you sleep, and then on behalf of you and your grieving family, sue Nissan for selling me the car."
True.... get rid of guns, then knives, then arrows, then bats/clubs, then rocks, then gasoline, then rocks....
“Only stupid people take advice from vice”
An actual wise hobo I met in Charlotte NC.
Lmao he probably was on a vice documentary about the edgy homeless population of NC
Homeless people can sometimes have a fountain of knowledge.
@@netheright ha, they’re just people who happen to not have a home. Of course they can.
@@netherightor you get a schizo rant.
Actually you usually get a schizo rant, that’s like 90% of it.
tell me you dont know what a schizo is like, without telling me what a shizo is like type ass comment rn
Saying you dont need a gun because we have police is like saying you dont need a fire extinguisher because we have fireman.
I can't believe that man has been neutered to the point that he's willing to not defend himself and family....
That’s not a man.
There isn’t one on this whole “panel”.
@@richardcranium3579 💯 facts
You'll be surprised it's less than 1% of countries which have right to bear arms in this world.
As well as men. He a sorry ass beta male.
Beta
My concealed carry instructor said it best. "It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it."
"Rather be judged by12 than carried by 6" truth in both statements 💯
@@seananderson1578 Rather be caught with it than without it
Seems pretty logical right
It is what I said when I got my home defense weapon. I said, I hope I never have to used for what I am buying it for but I will be ready to use it.
It's better to know me and not need me than to need me and not know me - some bail bonds jingle from 20 years ago
“A gun isn’t a known deterrent “! 🤣🤣🤣 Some of the dumbest words ever spoken!
I dunno my grandma's deterred a man who tried to break into her farm house . He would have broke in and attacked her if he didn't see her with the rifle through her front window
@@vaughanhopkins3642I'm grateful your grandma protected herself! Good for her, God bless her. I wish all women could be as safe by training to use a firearm.
remember why people are want gun control laws, if guns wasn't a deterrent, their be no fear, since it's not deterrent no danger, it's not a problem, yet we know they want these laws since their afraid of guns, and claim it's a danger, people are lying
IKR. In a situation where force is an option, having a force multiplier is the greatest deterrent.
That guy is a re re.
When I bought my first gun, I stopped getting robbed and bullied. It works.
These people that want to ban guns always seem to conveniently forget that it is already illegal to commit crimes, and do not want to point at the criminals being the actual problem. Removing guns from law abiding people will just give criminals more incentive to do what they do because they will have more probability of not facing resistance. You are doing a great job. Thank you
The guns themselves ain't the issue it's the fact that humans throughout history who've had mass access to high grade weapons has always led to mass death and collapse.
It is simple logic. If everyone has weapons they will use them.
You DID have a reason.
To fight the govenment if needed. However that is now a dream as they know your location 24/7, they can hit you from anywhere, and your ak ain't gonna help.
You need their power and food and water.
Troops ain't gonna roll down the road.
But only need 50 drones per state to ruin any chance of getting to the govenment let alone take them out.
Add on top that nukes. And EMPs. You don't stand a chance.
BUT the cats out of the bag so you ain't getting rid of them.
And illegal guns most of the time were aquired from legal owners so even the best of gun owners can be part of this issue.
Now you gotta figure out what's worth more to you.
Guns
Or
The lives they take when given to civilians.
That's how I see it.
The gun industry did not invent violence. To hold them accountable for what some humans do is top-shelf absurdity.
You wouldn’t want to hold a car company liable if someone just up and decided to ram it into a crowd of people (which happens more often than you think) so why would you do the same for a gun?
@@dionagona8205How often does that actually happen?
I only blame their marketing. Some people are suggestible and malleable.
God made man.
Samuel Colt made them equal
@arnauservaux39i was going to say that good job36
I have no respect for anyone who wishes to take my right to defend myself away. Colion, PLEASE do more long-form content like this!!
vice is the very definition of controlled opposition content. i notice it in almost everything they do
@@cagneybillingsley2165 Vice is the very definition of sin, wicked, and immoral behaviors. Of course their condescending propaganda is noticeable, it's meant to humiliate us and entertain them. I just can't get over someone stating they don't utilize a right, so other people shouldn't have it. That is a high degree of entitlement.
“Flee and obey” is how people end up oppressed and controlled. Everyone needs boundaries even when it comes to their house.
It's also how you end up dead.
Especially when it comes to their house.
Property rights and the right to self defense are not up for debate.
To me that gentleman is the prime example of: "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool then to open it and remove all doubts"
Lol Exactly 🤣🤣
vice is political propaganda
“The one who guards his mouth keeps his soul; The one who opens wide his lips comes to ruin.”
Proverbs 13:3 LSB
@@jonathanaldana4941 well the bible was fabricated so
@@anomaly3215 That statement is fabricated.
"The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable."
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Her: "How do I defend myself and my kids?"
Him: "Uhhh... You don't..."
Yo he was driving me crazy. This fool will try to reason a murderer to death. He legit said run away and submit your home and family to those who have no right to it. That's wild. He must be the world's easiest lick. He must stay robbed. He just walks around with his wallet and keys out waiting for them to be snatched. He's an ass clown of the highest order.
🤡: "you shouldn't fight back, you should run"
🤔: "Didn't you admit you got shot? So how did that strategy work out for you?"
🤡😂
@@kielanENmilesbasically a criminals paradise. Where people fear and run from you. I like the reality where criminals should assume they'll be gunned down breaking into houses.
"A gun is not a known deterrent" - Glad to hear you're advocating for open carry. Couldn't agree more.
I am a 61 year old white male and all I can say about Colion Noir is... This man is correct and I wish he would run for mayor here in Philadelphia, I would vote for him. Colion, you are doing a great job on your blog but we need good men like you in office.
I agree that guy in the video is out of his mind I live in Philadelphia also and I would vote for you as Mayor here also.
Anything better than Kenney …
Your entire first sentence was completely irrelevant & unnecessary to point out. Everything that followed is all you had to type.
"Just get out of the house." Yeah. I suppose he'd also tell a rape victim, "Oh, just get out from under him. It's not that hard to just leave if you don't like what's going on."
Yeah, you don’t like getting hurt? Just don’t let them hurt you. It’s easy.
We should pass a law that makes it illegal to break into homes!!!
No problem to quickly find & carry two children out a window and sprint safely away.
Definitely no accomplices by that other route on that side of the house
I've been shot before an it basically on second floor of apartment complex I was in back room if apartment I couldn't flew he was between me an the only exit. if I had my gun I would just shot him
They have told women to soil themselves in the past.
My 7 year old was with me while i was watching this video. Watching her reactions and facial expressions was priceless. She said, "If someone breaks into a house, it should not be a bad thing to shoot them because breaking into a house is illegal." She is only seven years old and understands or has more common sense than most of those adults on that panel. Afro man was disturbing.
Keep her sheltered from the ‘shelterers’. Sounds like shes already getting it
Smart kid.
Now teach your 7 year old it's not appropriate to use an assault rifle for personal defense. Don't go half ass on the education.
@CryptoDaddy really? I dont know what you'd classify as an assault rifle, but that doesn't really matter. If if she (or anyone else) needs to protect themselves, she should have every option, if not more, than the intruder has. Why shouldn't that be the case?
@@bshatney Every option? Claymores? Bouncing Bettys? Gatling?
Why should that be the case?
One case against assault rifle I give to you clearly.
If you starting popping off an assault rifle in an apartment building, you are going to be shooting into places you can't even imagine. There will be ricochets, shrapnel in all your neighbors homes. .45 or shotgun is all you need. More important than this is TRAINING. My God people are so damn stupid to give an 18 year old an assault rifle, with ZERO training!!!! WTF!
Firearms training should be minimum every 6 mos MANDATORY for all firearms owners. Also every firearm should require liability insurance, for when your short bus riders fire off an assault rifle in an apartment building.
We do not need high cap magazine assault rifles on our streets, in our cities or in our homes. You suffer from a mental deficit if you think otherwise.
As a responsible adult, you must recognize this deficit and take corrective action.
"A gun isn't a known deterrent".
THEN WHY DO WE ARM POLICE AND SOLDIERS!!!
"Get out of the house...and avoid getting shot for at least 800 meters."
“Oh and also just let them take whatever they want and do whatever they want to your family too...” this is the way
Oh yeah while you’re running with your kids, run zig zag
800 meters a second is quite the standard for a 250 pound man. He needs to teach us his ways and give Usain Bolt a run for his money.
Run forest ruuunnnn
Exactly. And try to carry your young children with you.
“Having a gun wouldn’t have helped me not get shot” skill issue tbh 😂
All the souls-vet gunowners watching: "GIT GUD SCRUB!"
It honestly is though ive seen so many videos of people not getting shot because they had a gun.
The guy is a tool. That’s like someone saying “putting a condom wouldn’t prevent me from getting pregnant” smh. Fool, it may not prevent him from getting shot, but it decreases the chances of him getting shot
goddamned aimbotters ruining it all
Worked for me and many others though. Funny how if I get an angle on someone and have the glock19 on them they remember a pressing appointment.
Locks are not built to stop an intruder. They are there to slow the person down. To give you time to react.
That's exactly what safes do. Their locks may be stronger than the locks on front doors, but they can still be defeated eventually. A bank vault is stronger than a home safe, but it can still be defeated too. Their entire purpose is to slow down the attacker long enough for a human or a hundred to show up to actually stop the attacker. And those humans have to have the ability to overpower the attacker(s).
Dude thought that a security camera is a deterrent... 😂😂😂😂
Things like locks also force the intruder to make more noise to get in, which often deters nonviolent crime like simple burglary. If someone is willing to kill you with a *gun* they're not going to care about the noise breaking a lock might make.
People ask why I praise my dog when he barks as people approach the door. Just another deterrent to keep someone from getting themselves shot. I like to say the locks on my house keep the bad guys safe, not me.
Also, it's evidence. It proves you are trying to deter a break in.
The first thing an individual is required to do when they are going to attempt to debate on a subject is educate themselves on the subject. Alec Baldwin loves gun safety.
21:22, I can’t believe what came out of that dudes mouth. This man honestly suggested that you leave your house (and in the woman’s case, her two children) as opposed to defending your family and what’s yours. Just unbelievable
And the question to him is "what if I can't get out in time or at all? What if I can't get my kids out? You want me to run out of my house and leave my kids behind?" And he won't have an answer because he will only entertain fantastical scenarios that can work with his ideology.
@@kristoferlarson I mean, "she should have an AR-15 too" is Colion entertaining a fantastical scenario. Who sits there with the knowledge they'll be attacked and not get their kids to safety?
@@uxtalzon I don’t think kris was demeaning hypotheticals, but rather pointing out that those people will only entertain the hypotheticals that are advantageous towards their position.
It's because he's a predator and doesn't want hard targets
@@uxtalzon If they can run you out of your own sanctuary, out onto the street, where is this "safety" you are getting your kids too?
Don't forget, the police do not have a duty to keep you safe! Keeping yourself and your family safe is up to you.
Nope, cops totaly show up instantly and will immediately run in to save you
@@DesertWolfpup He's referring to SCOTUS decision. Check it out👍🖥
@@WestValleyTransparency : There are actually 7 SCOTUS cases on that subject, commonly the Castle Rock vs Gonzales is the one quoted. But yeah, 'protect and server' is a marketing campaign, not a legal concept.
To protect snd serve...the state
Shooting an assault rifle in your home is not really keeping your family safe.
"When seconds count, the police are minutes away" Colion Noir.
If they show up at all.
Are police officers are supposed to go on patrol through cities and neighborhoods now tell me how often police officers ignore locations that they know need help police officers will drive-thru suburbs that they know have no violence or criminal activity because that's safe we shouldn't give cowards a badge and a gun and a paycheck to do nothing
If the police do 'patrol' the neighborhoods you state, it would be said they are racial profiling... or out and out rasict. Plus, the police are treated so badly now, most police forces don't have the man power to respond to calls let alone patrol.
What difference does it make, you don't have to do what the police tell you to do. *sarcasm dripping*
@alisand2371 Finish the statement.... "people" never act right. So get rid of the cops and we can have anarchy in the streets
Also Colin, "it's not black people committing most of the gun violence" 🙄
The Constitution is NOT outdated. It is timeless!!!
Yes, take away the only thing criminals actually fear. It’s a great age to be a criminal. The government helps you disarm your victims.
Don’t forget you can also fight the police and yell I can’t breathe and your the victim and not a criminal. (I am not referring to George Floyd before people attack me I am referring to a recent incident of a male who shot 5 people killing 3, one being a child. And when police roll up on him he starts crying like a baby literally yelling he can’t breathe)
@@HankyInTheTankyMr Floyd somehow couldn't breathe for over 30 consecutive minutes while screaming at the top of his lungs the whole time, and physically tackling the police several times
Watch the full video, it was released for a reason
Unfortunately THOSE people are unreasonably stupid
And you can go to the store and get the all you can carry out special
Thank you! Exactly.
@@HankyInTheTankyscreaming I can't breath is common practice now after getting arrested
Dude really said that having a gun while getting shot at increases the chances you die has to be the most absurd statement ever made.
I’ve been in a few firefights. The other guys might agree with him, but I don’t.
I actually kind of see what he was trying to get at. I've thought about this myself before. If someone has a gun pointed at you and knows you don't have a gun, it's pretty unlikely they're gonna shoot you. They know they don't need to. If they know you have a gun, they're much more likely to shoot you because they know you're a threat. The argument kind of breaks down the more you think about it tho. How do they know if you have a gun? That's why I like concealed carrying, because then they won't know that I'm armed. Also, in a situation where I know I can't get my gun out and get a shot off before they could shoot me, I'm just not going to pull out my gun. I'm handing over my cash or whatever they're asking for, or, in a more dire situation, I'm waiting for a chance to get my gun out and shoot.
@@clintonm2357 I’ve deff found having a gun in a gunfight sure did increase my chances of survival
@@Hunter-lm6to the amount of armed carjackings in Chicago prove your statement wrong. So many people without a weapon have been shot just for their vehicle.
@@BB-pg5kl And which statement is that proving wrong?
You stop the shooter not the weapon. Get armed and TRAINED. Unfortunately in this world this is necessary.
"Hold the gun industry accountable for their marketing of violence." So will she agree to the same with the news/media industry? They are bigger marketers of violence then the gun industry. I can't remember the last time I've seen a gun commercial.
Exactly, but the MSM markets the violence of the globalists against free nations, including our own.
Excellent point!
I've never seen one.
Ooh ooh! Then we can regulate alcohol manufacturers for promoting drinking and driving with their commercials showing how much fun people have drinking in public with friends!
Add vehicles and manufacturers, bats, knives, rope, tape, and other instruments including your hands and feet. The list would end up including everything.
A liberal friend of my parents got in a heated debate with me on why I shouldn’t get a gun permit. I asked ‘what if someone breaks in and I’m home alone? What do I do?’ She told me to hide.🤨 I asked ‘if they find me hiding? What then?’ She had nothing. I told her ‘instead of hiding and hoping they don’t find me, how about I grab my shotgun and defend myself and my property’!🤷🏼♀️
no one is breaking into ur house to kill you, who do u think u are
@@noahsmith3174 Yeah because they’re breaking in to steal her shit
@@noahsmith3174 Thanks for the chattering clod's opinion, little guy.
HOW BOUT WE JUST CREATE A SOCIETY WHERE WE DONT FEAR FOR OUR LIVES EVERYDAY. LIKE WTFFF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE
@@cease1337 and how to do that?
This stuff makes my blood literally boil. Thanks for standing up for everyone and using your Brain ❤️
You have no idea... I couldn't watch all of it. How did we go from the brave heroes that fought on the beaches of Normandy to whatever that thing was at 0:46?
@@ReasonablyBadActor 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ReasonablyBadActor good times create weak men. weak men create bad times....we are in the bad times with weak men.
white liberals hate the bill of rights more then minority women do.
They’re IDIOTS!!!!! They don’t understand common sense!!!! So I’m not surprised by them!!!!!:/
Has anyone ever saw a gun ad outside of a gun store?
As someone who survived a robbery/murder attempt in Baltimore…it was having a firearm that saved my life from multiple thugs at my business at 5am. And no, calling the police wouldn’t have helped when i only had seconds to make life saving decisions.
I really want a ar 15 so I can hunt. Sadly still a minor and I live in California, I own a bolt action rifle tho. I’m not sure if it works…it’s a beauty tho
@@Dulex123 Might want to be careful with that. Hunting with semi-autos and smaller cals like 5.56 may be restricted depending on laws. In PA where I am for example, semi-autos are flat out banned for hunting larger game like deer for example, but perfectly fine for varmint and pest hunting.
@@Dulex123 This comment made me look up California gun laws and...holy shit. _No one_ is allowed to legally purchase an AR-15 in California?? Because, what, it's black and kind of scary-looking???
I ain't even Christian but I'm praying for y'all now
@@Doomforged wait I meant ar 10. Sorry
Notice how there isn’t a string of 30 argumentative comments under this specific comment… the people advocating for gun control won’t choose to battle against your story’s because they know they’ll lose… I’m getting more and more impatient with people who think with their feelings because I’m sick of hearing the same old talking points that fall flat. I wish people would throw actual ammunition at me when we speak of difficult topics like this instead of “gun bad” or “you just don’t need that”
Last month a teen mother in Goshen, California tried escaping with her 10 month old baby. Sadly the intruders caught up to her. Her and her poor baby were executed in her front yard. (There’s video of this)
We must never give up our right to defend our families.
Exactly right. Was just thinking about the same event. I honestly don't have the patience to listen to these naive people who think they can create some sort of gun free utopia that will solve all our crime problems.
And who ever committed those murders continued their crimes after that. Probably killing more people.
Unfortunately if she's a teen she wouldn't have that right anyway. She clearly makes poor decisions but still deserves a right to defend herself and child
@@docjohnson1 I don't see an age restriction on rights?
@mummys4 nor do I per the constitution. However, our rights are consistently trampled on
🤡: "you shouldn't fight back, you should run away."
🤔: "How'd that work out for you?"
🤡: "I got shot."
😂: "Thanks for the advice, but no thanks, beta."
That's what I was thinking the whole time😭
Based af
Who would think a gun can hit something that's far away?
😂😂
@@slightlycynical4308 Or that its a wise idea to turn your back to somebody who is threatening to shoot you?
“The whole point in having a gun is because you don’t always have the option to flee”
Very true. I’m not able to bend my left leg or even put an excessive amount of weight on it due to a motorcycle accident causing an insane amount of pain. There is no way I’d be able to defend myself in a one on one altercation with someone who is most likely at their full 100% with both legs working normally if I wasn’t able to legally carry. Especially if I have my young daughter with me.
I have a similar sounding injury from a moped crash 20 years ago.. running is questionable for me as well. If I put weight on it wrong, it’ll literally bend the wrong way and I’m 100% down for the next few days if it happens.. never mind getting back up and running!
I am a sixty. Eight year old disabled person and prefer to have an equalizer in these times of high crime
This is gonna be a hard watch. If Colion wasn't commenting, there'd be no way I'd get through it.
Agreed. I had a hard time sitting through this one even WITH Colion's commentary. The three biggest talkers on this "panel" come off as plants to me. None of their reasoning makes any sense whatsoever. Actually, I take that back, it does make sense if you have a victim mindset. Sort of like what schools teach: "Just stay in the room and wait to be shot to death."
It is from Vice after all.
That's understandable but unfair; I imagine anti-gun people find Colion hard to watch. Anti-gun people are still people, they have the same right to be heard as you or I. The fact that it is uncomfortable is precisely why you should watch it. You need to understand why they feel that way so you can help guide them out of their flawed reasoning.
I tried to watch it. Couldn't make it through.
@@MrHeavy466 at the end of the day you are right. these panels would be a bit easier to get through if they were a bit more balanced. Perhaps have an equal number of pro v anti and maybe 2 moderators that reflect both ends of the debate.
For such an "outdated document", some of these people sure do exercise that first one just fine!
You’ll never truly realize how much it means to have a weapon like this at your disposal until you’re forced into a situation where you need it.
How did that guy even get shot? I mean he knew he could just leave right? 😂😂😂
Hey, Colion ... People like you inspired me to own guns and to actually start my own gun business. I'm an FFL ....And a major reason behind my FfL business was to help new gun owners lawfully obtain firearms and educate people about firearms. New gun owners are new voters that represent and support the 2nd amendment.
Nice work, we always need more 😀
Hey dude can I ask you a question? When you started your gun business how much money did you have set aside for the business? How much did starting the business cost you? I'm sorry if these questions are personal but I really want to start my own gun company but I have no idea what amount of money I should have before I do it. I know I could successfully sell firearms and do it ethically, but I don't know how much it costs to actually get in the game but I am seriously desperate to do so.
Any advice you could share with me would be so seriously appreciated. Thanks in advance! 2A all the way brother!
Yes what the second guy said. Trying to do the same. Tnat regular 9 to 5 corporate world sucks hahaa
Good for you man. Thinking about getting into Sonoran desert institute to start fun smithing and hopefully ffl down the road as well. We need more 2nd amendment loving Americans
@KingSchwag 420 do it man!
These people don’t have a clue, I worked in some of the worst areas in NJ for a utility company. I worked all different shifts. I was held up with a gun 3” from my head. I’ve dealt with gangs. And the cops were afraid of the gangs cause they were out gunned. Am I gonna depend on anyone but me, he’ll know! I train every month. I’m disabled and a senior citizen which makes me a bigger target. But I’m also a veteran. I put my life on the line for my country, what would I do for my family. I’m locked and loaded. Pro 2A 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you for bringing up NJ. I loved there for one year. I noticed some of the worst cities for gun crime were in NJ. Yet NJ has some of the most strict laws. Maybe some of the worst in the country, besides Cali. The laws don't work and NJ is prime example. I've been through Newark and a few others. I'm glad you have loved to tell this. Those places are wicked frightening with out being able to carry. ( since in NJ, we can't carry. Smh.)
@@MsAce0424 since 2014, I got smart and moved to Florida. First, we moved because it’s too expensive to live in NJ on Social Security, second, the state government is progressively getting worse to all but the rich, and third, if the cops are afraid of the criminals, what chance do the citizens have without the second amendment? I worked in the worst areas in Essex, Passaic, and Bergen counties.
@R Ganning good. Glad to hear you aren't there anymore. I went back to ohio, after the one year I was there. Ohio is 100% not like NJ. Lol
No one says you have to own a gun, but the SCOTUS says by the second amendment I have the right to own guns. I will comply with no unconstitutional laws.
That panel was sooooo even. This is why I don’t have meaningful conversation with people who can only talk with their feelings or just want to win. It’s a conversation that goes no where.
God bless the killed children protecting our second ammendment. They are heroes.
@@ceooflonelinessinc.267 I'm not giving up my guns. Not even to save your children.
@@josephgarrett5693 Off course not. I wrote we should be proud of the children killed. Better this than giving up any arms.
My wife has had feelings about guns for a long time. I am from one of the greatest 2A states and grew up learning how to be a responsible gun owner. 2 weeks after moving into our new house someone across the street was murdered in the middle of the night. The next night she woke me up at 2 am and said she’s ready to learn. This guy talking is a freaking clown. We the people need to protect ourselves! #ftheatf
that must have been an intense moment.
That's scary
Guns are like driving stick, you don't need to use it, but it sure as he'll doesn't hurt to have that ability
My wife carries a 9mm Constitutionally. When i met her she told me any man who doesnt know how to use a weapon, is still just a boy. She thinks its a joke that so many families are not armed and I never had to influence that opinion. She just emboldened mine.
Thats why i married her. She’s given me my daughter and hopefully a son on the way.
Also: a few months ago a body was found in the basement of a home 2 streets over. We had a literal murderer in our quiet suburban neighborhood. TRUST NO STRANGERS
@@slightlycynical4308 huh? No you need guns. Just because you havent used it doesnt mean you dont need it.
They needed a guy like you in that interview. That young black kid is trying so hard NOT to sound like a gangster that he's turning himself into a total victim
I would be willing to bet he is one of those who is very "anti cop" after a black person is harmed by them.....I bet he is for defunding the police....I bet he doesn't get that he is empowering the very group that most of these people vilify by taking guns away from the government thus making them MORE likely to violate people's civil rights.
Vice would never have someone like Colion on for this kind of "debate", and even if they did they would edit out everything he said
@@EwokyBalboa yep, they would edit it all out, along with the others just shouting him down and talking over him.
If he speaking about upholding his 2a rights by all means... whuu! what up! wuhh! wha! whatup gangsta! !
"Get out the house" 🤣
This the ABSOLUTE BEST gun channel out there!!
"If someone had had an ar15 in the grocery store in Buffalo, I don't think it would have saved lives. It honestly would have harmed more people"
And then the police showed up with ar15s and stopped the shooter 😂
That part
😂😂
Tell ya what, if there was a table full of loaded (pick one) 9mm .556 .308 .350 .450 AR-15's in that store in Buffalo, would the patrons grab one or just leave it there and say NAH, i'll rather take my chances without? Make it make sense people !
Remember when that kid dropped the guy shooting up the mall in Indiana?
Most insane conversation I have ever heard. Obviously this panel was planted.
Oh yeah !!!
I bet they are all actors.
Well, it IS on Vice. What more would you expect from them?
Planted and prepared
Sounds like your average LA citizens
Like my dad said, "It's better to have it & NOT need it THAN NEED IT & NOT HAVE IT"
Same thing i used to tell people when i went to work in London England in a bulletproof vest. No good to me left in the car.
Admittedly, I was opposed to gun control BEFORE I became a gun owner.
Another example of why many in the 2A community appreciate your passionate and effective advocacy for its value, validity, and protection!
Rotflmao, this guy got shot waiting on the cops. And he's still against guns. Lmao stupidity runs rampant in the woke liberals. And I guess the gay guy would just bend over for the bad guy.
I love how the guy who got shot says the 2a is a “perceived Right”
I perceive my right to defend my rights
At this point Colion Noir is a National Treasure… thank you for the articulation.
I'd totally agree if he stops pushing anti-consumer USCCA! They're a bunch of crooks!
So are you sir, stay classy my friend.
I agree, too many people are trying to Win a debate/argument to appear smart/popular instead of actually understanding the circumstances and consequences of their words.
These are actors who have been fed information and have practiced their speeches ahead of time. Who talks like this in normal speech? This must have been scripted. Thanks Colion Noir for all that you do.
you are totally right. nothing is put on tv without being edited or staged. its funny how all these people know all the correct terms and talking points. this panel is staged, notice ALL of their points are to the negative of guns, ALL of them. They know nothing of the meaning behind the 2nd or talk about tyranny. Most have no idea on how to protect urself or others. every situation they use is arm chair qb. HOPEFULLY this vid brings those that are anti 2A to this channel and they listen to Colion...
Bingo!
Well that is the problem with soy mentality. Their solution is false sense of security and rely on others for help.
10000000% scripted. It works. Kids watching this have little real world experience and lots of media. It works.
Exactly, that’s why it’s the same three people talking every time.
4:58 as someone who was almost killed by a gun, my dad owning a gun is what saved my life, this guy is in a fantasy world
Story?
I can think of a WW2 serviceman who was not allowed a gun.
He was at war, and other people were serving to shoot.
Someone should have asked that nitwit why he didn't just _leave_ before his assailant drew a bead on him. Then he'd never have gotten shot. Simple as.
Were you almost killed by a gun, or someone using a gun?
He's just a Leftist plant put there to spout the same talking points as 90% of the others on the panel. Always the same formula where it's 90% the same opinions and then 1 or 2 that are there to be the "bad guy" that gets bullied and shouted down to make it look like their opinions and arguments are being "defeated".
They don't understand that once one of those rights in that "outdated document" is removed its a short route to the removal of the rest of them. They haven't figured out why the 2nd is the first to fall.
I have never seen ONE intruder choose to stay and fight as soon as they heard the first gun shot.
You gotta love the “they market this violence” line. When was the last time you saw an ad for guns? I can’t even think of a time where I have seen an ad for any kind of gun in the last 6 months at least
Watch outdoor channel
I've been seeing a few ads on yt surprisingly
@@Token_Black_Guy The last time I remember seeing an actual gun ad was the Daniel Defense ad from the Superbowl. Other than like magazines, I never see them. They make it sound like it's some prolific thing that you see everywhere.
Same, i cant remember the last time i saw any type of gun ads, let alone one that encourages violence.
The only gun ads I've ever seen were in gun mags, and not once have I seen an ad that markets them ad tools of violence. I've seen adds that talk about style, reliability, and their use in hunting and self defense.
At the end of the day, willingly surrendering your ability to physically defend yourself is the same as asserting you have faith in governments and large groups to never trample you and your rights. "History has entered the game."
Benjamin Franklin said "He who surrenders freedom for comfort deserves neither". Shooting someone isn't comfortable. Defending your own home, family, or person can be nerve-wracking. Life isn't all about fluffy pillows, buttercup, rainbows, or unicorns. We DON'T live in a musical based reality. Some of those idiots on that panel obviously take their comforts for granted, and are NOT willing to suffer discomfort to protect them. Let them have their fairy tale beattitudes. At the end of the day, I do not respect them nor want them for a neighbor.
This is the ultimate breakdown of this debate. The only reason to give up the ability to defend yourself in an environment that is recognizably and not infrequently dangerous is that you trust someone else to defend you.
Trusting the government to protect and defend you has historically been a Grade-A classic idiotic move. They're almost as likely to be the ones trying to kill you, certainly more likely in the past century.
Who needs rights when you have government?
That ship has sailed, Sally.
Please explain what yer Glock is going to do to hellfire missiles, attack drones, laser guided bombs, tanks, artillery, kinetic weapons, and the NSA.
Works great in Japan. Nine gun deaths in 2019. You know why? Nobody has guns but the police and military.
They go to the fruitiest part of town to find these people.
I wish Colion could get these people together and debate them face to face
Would be awesome for him to actually take all them to the range. Like Crowder did a while ago with a couple of young ladies.
This
They didn’t invite Colion on the panel because it would have been 6 minutes long, and it would’ve ended in everyone crying in the fetal position.
Right... because this spook is the end all be all when it comes to guns and protecting yourself
@@markcorlett308what’s a spook?
A scary man with his weapon to defend himself?
@@markcorlett308 yeah nobody said that, don't put words in people's mouths!
@@markcorlett308 That implies that you NEED whoever IS the end-all, be-all of guns in order to make that panel feel utterly defeated.
@@markcorlett308 = @$$hat
The man saying "leave the house" to the woman with 2 kids obviously has never tried to get kids out of a house. It's hard enough to get them out on a normal day. Add a home invasion, fear, panic, and 2 armed men in your home, and you are a sitting duck. He should also think about the fact that these men with guns may want to do more than just rob a women in front of her kids. Those kids will now have to live with the damage of seeing their mom assualted.
He should take his own advice and leave the USA.
That's assuming if the kids are alive after. A home invasion with occupants almost never has survivors on the innocent side.
He would rather let his kids be abducted and watch his wife be violated in front of him, than take one step off of his “moral” high ground.
That’s the cold hard facts of his belief system.
They should bring them to a mock house and make them do a drill of what they think is the best way
Mr. Runaway Man doesn't have to make sense. He believes he's on the right side of history... Just like every other tyrant.
Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it
He is the very reason for " the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a deferent result"
Deference as in pay deference?
7:02 I think he’s either lying about being shot or he’s so traumatized from the experience he can’t think rationally about the subject.
He is so annoying lol
Textbook definition of an NPC. Repeats the thing that was said to him by a recommended video from his left-leaning YT algorithm even when it doesnt make sense.
He was shot with a pellet gun at the age of 9 by his 18 y/o older brother while he was trying to wrestle it away from him because he wanted to fire it himself. Thankfully he survived with only minor injuries and only a life-long BIASED OPINION.
Thank you for this response. I was attacked shortly after getting my conceal carry permit, 19 years ago. Trucker came after me with a tire iron and only stopped when he saw that I was armed.
I am grateful that I I didn’t have to shoot him.
Best defensive use of a gun
@@christopherclifford1024 And the kind that rarely gets reported in the news media or counted in crime statistics.
Glad you were able to defend yourself and walk away without injuries.
@@christopherclifford1024 I think I had only been carrying for a few months at the time. I was at a remote site and the driver stopped between me and my work truck.
The short story: he came out yelling, went back and got the tire iron and came at me aggressively. I lifted my shirt to grab my pistol and he immediately stopped, got in his truck and left.
@@The_Kirk_Lazarus me too. I didn’t call police since no shots were fired. Also, my work prohibited carry and I didn’t want to lose my job.
AH YES WE BACKGROUND CHECKS. AS WE ARE ALREADY USING BACKGROUND CHECKS. THAT ARGUMENT IS LIKE SAYING YOU DONT HAVE AIR WHILE YOU ARE ACTIVELY BREATHING
As someone who was in a fistfight that quickly escalated to me being stabbed and left for dead...
I have to say, that if I had been allowed to have a firearm (welcome to California) I wouldn't have been stuck in a coma for three days and crippled for life.
Guns aren't just a deterrent. They are the BEST deterrent. The guy literally saw a broom in my hand and stopped to ask if it was a shotgun. He was high.
please tell the full story
sounds super interesting
also how long ago
@REAL pomagranite_titan In 2012. It's public record, but I can try to tell it again... standby.
@REAL pomagranite_titan I was 25, and had just decided to take the next step in my life as a soldier (I'm a minuteman, and it never evolved from that, but at the time I had just tried to sign up for the US Army) and was staying with my brother in Watts, California. We were having a party, to celebrate the last week of me being a civilian(ChristmasEve 2012), when we ran out of alcohol and he went to the store to get more. While he was gone, his cousin called the house and threatened to kill everyone there.
Me being the anti-bully that I am naturally, I scoffed at his words. Ten minutes later, he showed up to my brother's house with his friend and kicked down the front door, before jabbering in his meth-fueled rage about how he was gonna kill me. I was at that moment, sweeping up some garbage off the floor, and the broom I had been using had a black handle (which I believe is what caused his confusion). I put the broom down, and confronted him in the second room in the house, telling him that he had to leave and that I didn't want to fight him because I didn't want to hurt him(I'm a martial artist, and California law states that you must give three warnings before engaging in self-defence, and only after retreating, at the time). He took a swing at me after saying, "it's too late for all that shit", and I fought him for a full 7 and a half minutes, before he finally landed a massive haymaker to my left temple, which uprooted me from the floor and spun me around where I hit my right temple on the corner of a metal strongbox which was around 2 foot cubed. In that same moment, I felt my knife come out of my back pocket. I'm not sure if he grabbed it out, or it fell out, but the next thing I remember was the click of the knife opening and making a mad grab to try to stop him from stabbing me in the neck. We fought over the knife for a split second, before he spun me around in a reverse bear-hug, and dove on top of me with the knife pointed at my kidney on my left side. I stopped most of the blade with my hands, but I got around two inches of steel in my Abdomina Veina Cava, and my spleen and diaphragm were both punctured. He then jerked the knife out of my chest, and walked wide-eyed towards the front door. I put pressure on the wound, and then realized that I was about to die, so I charged at him from behind and tackled him off of the front stairs. He stood up, aimed a couple of kicks at my back(I was curled in the fetal position and trying to keep my blood in me) before walking to his suburban and driving away like a madman. It took thirty minutes of bleeding and the neighbor lady begging the dispatch coordinator for the ambulance to get there. The police never showed up, until I woke up three days after Christmas in the ICU. The Army denied my enlistment form, and the man got away with the crime, only to end up in prison a year later for murder 1. He killed three other people before our fight, and two people after.
The reason I didn't have a gun, was my brother was on felony parole, and I had one prior Baker's Act violation on my record when I was 19. That's a story for another day, but suffice to say, I will never acquiesce to another mental health care moment, in my life. I was almost killed by California's idiotic laws. I now advocate for people who have mental health issues, to fight them without doctoral aid, for that exact reason.
Well done, California...
@@guardsmanom134 Thank you for sharing, man. That shit is crazy. Your own cousin almost killed you. This is why we need to bring mental asylum back, give the crazies a place to be themselves without hurting the civilized world. And I live in Cali too and fuck this burning patch of hell.
@REAL pomagranite_titan what's more, what you call crazy, is just side effects of the medications that most of these people are on.
Really, crazy people are just people who see things differently, or were attention seekers at a young age, and they got a shit deal. How do you think that I caught a Baker's Act violation in the first place?
I WAS ACCUSED OF BEING CRAZY. Yet, I now know that I just have an incredible imagination, and a high intelligence.
Food for thought.
My cousin was murdered in a gas station robbery by some trash. Not once did I ever think about the guns they used. I blamed the people who decided to rob a gas station instead of trying to do something with their lives.
These people are mind boggling, I mean to each his own but, even before I got into guns I never had this mindset and thought someone would be there to save me in my worse time of my life.
Fr, even before I became a gun owner, or even knew anyone with a gun. I never thought YOU shouldn't have one. I figured that gun in the house was a safe bet. My first gun was just me getting a pistol at 21 because I wanted protection at my crappy apartment complex. Never considered otherwise.
Honestly judging the age group of the panel it seems more and more brainwashed from the school and mean escape the situation sounds like what they tell you to do in school.