The "worst" Beatles album (or the least essential, anyway) is probably Yellow Submarine. Beatles For Sale isn't bad; it's just a little too heavy on covers.
The Beatles are a mediocre band who had good songwriting skills but as far as guitar work and Ringo's drumming skills,they do not stand out as great musicians.Ringo is a sub par drummer with limited skills,he reminds me of Peter Criss of KISS,another substandard drummer with no imagination or craft to his work.Now Neil Peart from Rush was a magnificent drummer.
Beatles don’t make bad music and to say the white album is a bad album is ridiculous, it has every type of music you could want, this is the greatest double album ever!!
I actually like In the Hot Seat. Man In the Long Black Coat and Give Me A Reason To Stay are quite pleasant to listen. But they are covers. I was listening to this album while I was reading Hyperion and The Fall Of Hyperion by Dan Simmons so the ELP album and these books are linked in my memory, As for Queen, everything without Freddie Mercury should never be called Queen. And this album with Paul Rodgers, the cosmos rocks, I find it not as bad as critics say. The one problem is it is labeled Queen. It's decades since I listened it. When I rate Queen albums, it stops with Made In Heaven. Sorry for May and Taylor. I think that their solo output is far more interesting than this "Queen" stuff, especially Taylor.
Under Wraps has some great tracks. It's just the drum machines that spoil it. I've made my own version using Audacity, with the drums toned down and it's loads better. Who knows; maybe Steven Wilson will do a real drums remix. We can only hope.
Under Wraps may be layered with all of the cheesy 80s trappings possible, but underneath the songwriting is as good as anything Tull did in the 70s imho.
Hi Scott! When I saw Jethro Tull coming up, I was afraid it was going to be another bashing of Under Wraps, which I consider a hugely underrated album. Completely agree about Catfish Rising and Rock Island being the low point in the Tull discography. That's the right choice for ELP, too. Everyone rags on Love Beach, but it's In the Hot Seat that is the real stinker. Can't agree about the Beatles, though. What about "Every Little Thing," "I'm a Loser," "What You're Doing," and those ripping covers of "Rock & Roll Music" and "Kansas City"? Everyone dumps on "Mister Moonlight," but you have to admit that Lennon's vocal is awesome on that. Yes, there's a fair amount of country influence on that album, but that's a feature, not a bug. Cheers!
I actually like a lot of the songwriting on "Calling All Stations." I really connected with the album in college. The song "Not About Us" now makes me think of all the healthcare workers during the worst of the COVID crisis.
Good video, Scott. Having seen YES 49 times live, going back to 1972, I kinda wish you would have thrown some shade on one of theirs, Open Your Eyes. Couldn't get into it. Love the Prog Corner.
As you know I really like Calling All Stations from Genesis. And Seasons End is my favourite Hogarth Marillion album. Actually 50 % from Holidays in Eden is real prog rock.
Yep. No violin, no Kansas. And Drastic Measures is more of a mediocre John Elefante solo album than a Kansas album. Even two of the three Kerry Livgren songs are just average(Mainstream is excellent). It sounded like a mediocre Foreigner album Genesis: No, We Can't Dance was crap too, along with Calling All Stations.
@@TheProgCornerIf they got all the crappy hits on singles only with the short fillers as B sides only, they could have had a 40 minute album titled Fading Lights that would have the good stuff only. Then after a year or so, release a EP with all the crap on the singles.
My all time favorite musician is Peter Gabriel. His self-titled second album "scratch" was a great disappointment at the time and never grew on me. There's nothing but mediocrity. Most of my least favorite songs throughout his career are on this album. Campy is not his strength...
Nah. I have VU's Squeeze and will happly defend its right to exist. Its a stonking wee album with cracking tunes. Nothing wrong there, and it had an audible link to Loaded. Had they continued, Squeeze would have been seen as a transitional album for the VU, much as Fleetwood Mac moved on from Peter Green. Many deride the album without listening to it or giving it a chance. Similarly those same 'armchair critics with 5 albums' discount Soft Machine's jazzier excursions or late period Gong. All it requires is a well honed pair of ears ....and an occasional beer. And another thing......etc. (Editors note: rant continues for several more hours....)
@@ianbrown3304 Sweeeet! Let's fight! (respectfull). I think Doug Yule rarely gets any respect for his contributions to VU. Loaded might be my fave VU album, and he fits in seamlessly and sounds heavenly on Who Loves the Sun. I was kind of annoyed that Todd Haynes VU doc pretty handily dismissed Doug Yule and doesn't mention Squeeze. But, that said, Squeeze doesn't sound like the VU at all (to me anyway). As i understand it he was making a solo album and got wrangled via contractual obligation and management pressure to release it under the VU name. It probably would have been fine as a DOug Yule solo record but it sucks as a VU album. Without Lou it has no soul. It sounds and feels like a crass cash grab still to this day. And, as I said, I don't fully blame Doug Yule for this disaster. I have tried so many times to get into this album.
I did not mind Kansas Drastic Measures.. As a Huge fan I quite liked a few songs from it. The one Kansas album that was a real dud for me is In the Spirit of Things!
Beatles - White Album, Gentle Giant - Giant For a Day, Edgar Broughton Band - Oora, Caravan - Waterloo Lily, David Bowie - Young Americans, Camel - Dust & Dreams.
Cheap Trick The Doctor, all of their other albums are good or better. Hot Space from Queen is pretty bad. I think the only Bad Beatles is album is actually Let it be, never liked most of the songs. Id also include the Kinks, I think Preservation Act 2 is their only really bad album. Rush Vapor Trails, sorry could never get into this one at all
Congratulations on reaching 12k subs Scot your totally killing it! I'm glad I found your channel when I did! Looking forward to that Mike Oldfield ranking! Peace and love! :)
Frank Zappa has only one album that I would consider bad: Thing Fish. I can’t listen to that album anymore. Playground Psychotics comes close, but there’s enough good music in between all the secretly recorded dialog to make it not bad. And I do like all the orchestral stuff both in the modern and Baroque styles such as The Perfect Stranger and Francesco Zappa.
I've always loved Beatles for Sale. "I'm a Loser," "No Reply," great stuff. I also like Drastic Measures. Admittedly, if I like a band, I'm not hard to please when it comes to their catalog. 😂
Guys! Come On! Calling All Stations may not be The Lamb…. or Selling England…. but it is not sh1t either. I have every album by Genesis (and then some!) since I first heard of and discovered them in 1974. In my opinion CAS is a good album. A very good album. It does take some time to get into and to understand it, but when you invest some time and you listen to it, over and over, you begin to hear some real interesting stuff in there. Stuff that will call you back again and again.
In my opinion, there’s no bad Beatles album. The worst (With The Beatles, again IMO) is still greater than many band’s greatest. Beatles for Sale has a really soft spot for me, actually.
Not a band, but he had a few bands: Pat Metheny Zero Tolerance for Silence. Many people say it was revenge on Geffen. But I think it is an essential album to understand the complexity of Pat Metheny and how he played guitar on occasions. I can actually sit and listen to the whole thing every once in a while. It's not based on melody or harmony or even rhythm but on the layering of noise.
What could possibly make that garbage worth anyone's time? Dude gets a record deal, can do whatever he wants with it, and then like a child gets pissy and deliberately churns out a pile of shit. I'm asking seriously
@@michaelbenz8092 'essential album to understand the complexity of Pat Metheny'. This why you jazz heads who *think* you're smart are actually dumb. It's just crap. Nobody "needs" to listen to crap to "understand" some fucking artists' 'complexities'.
@@michaelbenz8092 'essential album to understand the complexity of Pat Metheny'. Do you even hear yourself? This is why you jazzheads that *think* you're so smart are actually pretty dumb. Nobody "needs" to listen to crap to better understand an artist's "complexity". This is why I can't take jazzheads seriously. Honestly, man...
Great show, you Groovy Ghoulie! I will state a VERY contrarian take: Styx ~ Crash of the Clown. 🤡 Reason number one is the songs are far too short. Just as you expect it to start cooking, it’s over. Number two: no lead vocals from the Godfadda of Styx on a full song?! This is the first time that’s ever happened. My theory when they made Will “WeirdAlYankovic” a full time member was that JY would retire. That has yet to happen. I was told about 25 years ago - by someone in the know - that JY’s hearing was shot. We know his voice is now a shadow of its former self. When are you going to retire, Gramps? Maybe never, because if he does, then it’s The Tommy Shaw Show and not Styx. But then again, is it really Styx now without… Number three: No Dennis the Menace. That nutty cat was the visionary of the band. Is this ragtag group of ragamuffins really Styx anymore? Hmmm… 🤔 the mind boggles. Obviously, Styx are “more Styx” than Foreigner is nowadays, but c’mon man. Everyone raves about The Mission and Crash of the Clown, 🤡 but I feel The Mission is easily the better album. In fact, both of the late period Kansas records are better than Crash Corrigan. And my Styx fandom goes all the way back to 1977. Oh well, “anyway you slice it, it comes up Kraft!” Fascinating topic, Scot… although we’ll all see this differently. Cheese and Cherry Cheers from The Big Apple. Rock Out, Prog On and Pogo! It’s my mantra 🕉️and my logo. At the end of each and every video. Your clone and mine, ~ The Dreaded, Shredded and Unleaded Doppelgänger of Davey Cretin, from CRETIN CLASSICS. PS: Dug your GBV show from yesterDAyVE. And l concur sir, Do the Collapse is quite excellent. Ric Ocasek brought a nice sheen to the Ohio boys and “Teenage FBI” friggin’ RULES!
I LOVE the short fragments and schizophrenic (almost Guided by Voices like) nature of Crash Of The Crown. But we agree on the two new Kansas albums. And The Mission. (One day you will see the error of your ways, my friend!!!)
Under Wraps is a disaster from Tull. Giant For A Day is awful from Gentle Giant. In The Hot Seat is awful so is Love Beach. Locked In Wishbone Ash is pure dirt. Performance by Eloy is poor. Slaves and Masters is so bad from Deep Purple. The Endless River from Pink Floyd is total trash.
Jethro Tull... Lap of Luxury... Absolutely horrid Kansas Absence of Presence Queen.. Hot Space Genesis: We Can't Dance Marrilion, most albums with Hogarth ELP: agree Beatles: Yellow Submarine
Bernie Rhodes was the main reason Cut The Crap sucked as much as it did. There are demo versions which hint at what could have been and a very unofficial but amazing re-recording of these tunes that sound like classic Clash had they not been railroaded & derailed by Bernie. The shittiest drum machine sounds and awful mixes are all on him. This is England still makes this album worth having. The last great Clash song. I'd also recommend checking out Sparks version of We Are the Clash. The song is great, but the recording and mix on CTC are abysmal.
Calling All Stations could have been much better if Genesis had replaced about 3/4 of the album with some of the B-sides. Those were some of the best songs they'd written in years. Then they might have successfully reinvented themselves and continued on into the 21st century instead of bringing their recording career to a screeching halt.
... and I just happened to be reripping my Beatles For Sale Mono CD as you mention it Scot! Umm... WTH!?! 🤣 Beatles '65/For Sale has always been a favorite of mine! It's all good, great video!
Difficult theme. Some of the "worst" albums from a band I do like, and some I don't but then this band has more 'bad ones'. Of course it's personal taste but I came up with a top 5: 1. U2 - Pop (never really liked that one). 2. Jethro Tull - Under Wraps (I don't mind Catfish rising, but Under Wraps, with that synthy drumming just doesn't do it for me) 3. Deep Purple - Turning to Crime (I like some songs but most are no-no's) 4. Godley & Creme - Freeze Frame (although I like the big single on it) 5. Utopia - Swing to the right (also never connected with that one).
Yeah, Jethro Tull's "Catfish .." was a sort of a predictable, dud...but has a few good moments. "The Zealot Gene" was really weak and forgettable (I should mention that my two all time fave bands are Tull and Black Sabbath). Another fave band with an annoying album Gentle Giant "Giant 4 a day". I recently gave my original vinyl copy a spin, and realized that side 1 is "tolerable" and side 2 is annoying. But I'm sure that a lot of people who are not familiar with their previous albums or who are not prog fans, would like it. The production and musicianship is, as usual, top-notch but the "namby-pamby" predictable songs are embarrassing. The recent Iron Maiden album , "Senjutsu" was a real disappointment...Just remembered "the single factor" from Camel, I bought it when it came out and gave it away shortly thereafter.
Squeeze by Velvet Underground, maybe almost True Stories by Talking Heads. I would say all Stones albums are at least decent, except for the ridiculously awful Dirty Work. Other voices by Doors is decent, Full Circle not at all. Was expecting Giant For A Day but suppose you have warmed to it a bit.
ROXY MUSIC, I think they are prog and all albums are good or great but some, you, will say that Flesh and Blood is bad, ok. yet still no love for ROXY, all their core members are great specially Phil Manzanera who btw had fantastic solos albums including in the 801 live album. yes i'm going to stay on you until you at least mention them. from another Scott
Hmm…wracking my brain on this one. I’ve come up with Electric Light Orchestra and their last album from their classic period which was Balance of Power. Not so good when you consider great albums like Eldorado and Face the Music. I’m sure there are more bands that have one bad record but ELO is the only one I can think of. It’s a good topic Scot.
Thanks, Scott. It is incredible that only a year separates Beatles for Sale and Rubber Soul ! It is like going from the Dark Ages to the Renaissance in one week ! Having said that, I do enjoy the album !
First Band that came into my mind was Toto. Their Album Tambu was really boring for me. Another two bands that came to my mind, both from my home country Germany, are Grobschnitt with Merry-Go-Round and Triumvirat with Russian Roulette. Interesting topic, I love it.
Note for the future Scot. When you make a comment and claim like that against the Beatles . . you then need to quickly duck! My shoe just missed the screen. 😮😊
I had to get all controversial!!!! I love love love The Beatles but Beatles 65 hardly ever got played in the Lade household growing up and Beatles For Sale did not have much more of an impact. Any other band - it’s probably their best album!!!!
Catfish rising is not terrible, its only fair. Calling all stations is a return to the progressive roots of Genesis, come on the prog corner should love it! It just goes to show that all the progressive elements in the world, cannot make a record interesting by themselves. A hit is a hit is a hit, no matter the genre. It must retain some rock and roll or pop hooks. Beatles 65 is not terrible record by any standard except by the Beatles standard.
Can't dispute any of these, even Beatles For Sale, but if I was to pick a single Genesis album that I really don't rate (Genesis to Revelation is fine) then it's got to be Abacab. Just can't get into that one, I like Duke, love the self titled from 83 and Invisible Touch, so it's not a Phil v Peter thing. Just can't get into it. Even Calling All Stations has its moments.
Speaking of Starcastle and Renaissance...a bit of trivia...Annie Haslam painted the cover of the Starcastle album Song of Times. My candidate for "One Bad Album" bands, The Alan Parsons Project's "The Sicilian Defense."
Sorry Scott but Yes - Open Your Eyes is the only terrible YES album. From the Balcony is bearable but the rest of it is absolute rubbish. Thankfully given their huge discography that’s dang impressive!
In the Hot Seat by ELP is my selection. The cover of Man in the Long Black Coat is the only song I like. Like you said Love Beach is much better other than the hideous album cover photograph.
Black Sabbath - Never Say Die Yes - Union Genesis - We Can't Dance (I'll take Stations over it any day) Judas Priest - Ram It Down (the less successful Turbo) Iron Maiden - The X Factor
Black Sabbath had several awful albums and Never Say Die isn't one of them. Forbidden on the other hand is a dried blob of parrot droppings and Born Again is just wrong from start to finish.
@@sabbracadabra7503 I like it more than Forbidden, a lot more. They took chances on that one. Forbidden is mostly dreck with a couple of ok tunes. But I haven't heard the remix. I'll check it out.
The Beatles "For Sale" has some fillers. These I never really cared for much: - "Words of Love" : I get it. The love for Buddy Holly and it's not bad. Just a bit boring - "Baby's in Black" : Not a total stinker, but it doesn't smell good either - "Mr. Moonlight" : Now, this is a stinker - "Kansas City/Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey!": I bet it could make the roof take off live in the Hamburg days, but not so much on record - "Honey Don't" : Ringo dooooont.... - "I Don't Want to Spoil the Party" : It's allright, I guess. But I wouldn't play it at a party. - "Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby": They really could have done more with this But then again these: - "No Reply" : In my honest opinion the best song on the album - "Rock and Roll Music": This is a kick ass version and evidence of this being a full throttle rock'n'roll band when they wanted to be - "I'll Follow the Sun": A beautiful little song with great melodic quality - "Every Little Thing": There's a reason Yes did a cover of this, because it's a very good song with some interesting twists - "Eight Days a Week": It's a huge hit for a reason Now these I had to give a couple of spins to remind myself: - "I'm a Loser": Never a favourite of mine, still isn't - "What You're Doing": Now, this is far better than I remembered. The album cover, however....it's so good because it tells the story about why this album isn't their best work. Nevertheless, that was my take on your top posting today. Still trying to land after yesterday's BIG BIG TRAIN gig in Oslo. Much love from the Oslo Weirdo
@@TheProgCorner And I had beers with the band afterwards. They just bumped into my regular water hole just down the road and settled down. Had a really nice chat with Claire, Nick and Gregory. Aaaaaand I sort of mentioned The Prog Corner, just for the record.
1. Love Beach (ELP) 2. Roll the Bones (Rush) 3. Calling all stations (Genesis) 4.The final cut (Pink Floyd) 5. Union (Yes) 6. Stationary Traveller (Camel) 7. All the u2 albums (except Unforgetable fire)
@@Prognosis__I resisted listening to it until recently. I am a Lou Reed fan, not even close to everything but generally appreciate his artistic presence. I enjoy that Metallica is the backing band here and are playing differently ( maybe more simplistic) than they would on one of their records. This is an odd record and I always applaud big artists doing projects that take risks. David Bowie said it was Lou’s best work so have those beers and crank it up.
My criterion: you have to compare the albums within the band level. For example, in the case of Led Zeppelin, their last album (In through the out door) is a bad album. The band was already broken, relationships were bad, and Page's influence was very limited. That being said, is it a horrible album? No. But it is a very weak album in comparison to his classic albums, several masterpieces. In the case of Geneesis (one of the top five prog bands of all time), IMO the big, good albums concluded with Duke. Everything after that is really very weak, weak, bad, pop. Awful.
I'll take "Calling All Stations" over "The Lamb..." any day, all day. Yes "Union" Styx "Cyclorama" Chicago "17" - the songs are good, but the production makes it unlistenable! Gentle Giant "Giant For A Day"
What? Still clickbait week?? Beatles for Sale might be their weakest album but would still be in the top 25% of Pop/Rock releases of the past 60 years (some viewers would claim top 10% and I'd struggle to disagree) Otherwise, words of wisdom as always, Scot. Maybe just another dose of that anti-venom before your next video, eh? 😁
Deep Purple's "Slaves and Masters" sucks...I also think "The Construction of Light" is not such a great Crimson King album...by the way..is King Crimson related to King Chucky ?..😅😂 2:54
All fair commentary. But...The Beatles? No. No. No. Even at their worst, they're still great.
The "worst" Beatles album (or the least essential, anyway) is probably Yellow Submarine. Beatles For Sale isn't bad; it's just a little too heavy on covers.
The Beatles are a mediocre band who had good songwriting skills but as far as guitar work and Ringo's drumming skills,they do not stand out as great musicians.Ringo is a sub par drummer with limited skills,he reminds me of Peter Criss of KISS,another substandard drummer with no imagination or craft to his work.Now Neil Peart from Rush was a magnificent drummer.
@@eddiemethot8925 Well, the only reason you're saying that is because you don't know what you're talking about.
@@eddiemethot8925 Ladies and gentlemen, this is the danger of listening to too much prog.
Beatles don’t make bad music and to say the white album is a bad album is ridiculous, it has every type of music you could want, this is the greatest double album ever!!
I like that Beatles album, not their greatest but still
Strong enough, like the trout mask replica in background
I love the Captain!!!!!!
I actually like In the Hot Seat. Man In the Long Black Coat and Give Me A Reason To Stay are quite pleasant to listen. But they are covers. I was listening to this album while I was reading Hyperion and The Fall Of Hyperion by Dan Simmons so the ELP album and these books are linked in my memory,
As for Queen, everything without Freddie Mercury should never be called Queen. And this album with Paul Rodgers, the cosmos rocks, I find it not as bad as critics say. The one problem is it is labeled Queen. It's decades since I listened it.
When I rate Queen albums, it stops with Made In Heaven. Sorry for May and Taylor. I think that their solo output is far more interesting than this "Queen" stuff, especially Taylor.
I like "Calling All Stations" and " Holidays In Eden".
See how that works??!!👍
@@TheProgCornerWhere is Heaven and Earth? Does Yes have another album that's total crap?
I'm surprised you think "Under Wraps" is a better album than "Catfish Rising".
Under Wraps has some great tracks. It's just the drum machines that spoil it. I've made my own version using Audacity, with the drums toned down and it's loads better. Who knows; maybe Steven Wilson will do a real drums remix. We can only hope.
@@richard127gm So you had A Eye manipulate the sound for you? That sounds bad..
It is
@@richard127gm You shouldn't do that
Under Wraps may be layered with all of the cheesy 80s trappings possible, but underneath the songwriting is as good as anything Tull did in the 70s imho.
Hi Scott! When I saw Jethro Tull coming up, I was afraid it was going to be another bashing of Under Wraps, which I consider a hugely underrated album. Completely agree about Catfish Rising and Rock Island being the low point in the Tull discography. That's the right choice for ELP, too. Everyone rags on Love Beach, but it's In the Hot Seat that is the real stinker. Can't agree about the Beatles, though. What about "Every Little Thing," "I'm a Loser," "What You're Doing," and those ripping covers of "Rock & Roll Music" and "Kansas City"? Everyone dumps on "Mister Moonlight," but you have to admit that Lennon's vocal is awesome on that. Yes, there's a fair amount of country influence on that album, but that's a feature, not a bug. Cheers!
I don’t hate Beatles For Sale but compared to EVERYTHING else in the catalog…
I actually like a lot of the songwriting on "Calling All Stations." I really connected with the album in college. The song "Not About Us" now makes me think of all the healthcare workers during the worst of the COVID crisis.
I really like Ray Wilson.
@@TheProgCornerI will See him again at my Hometown. He is a nice Guy and great Singer and is working very hard to alive in this biz.
Good video, Scott. Having seen YES 49 times live, going back to 1972, I kinda wish you would have thrown some shade on one of theirs, Open Your Eyes. Couldn't get into it. Love the Prog Corner.
Yes has three clunkers (I think): Union, Open Your Eyes and Heaven & Earth.
@@TheProgCorner ....agree.
As you know I really like Calling All Stations from Genesis. And Seasons End is my favourite Hogarth Marillion album. Actually 50 % from Holidays in Eden is real prog rock.
One of these day Eden might clock for me…
This is very entertaining
Omg Calling All Stations what a crock of s---t
Haha those Doors albums what an even worse crock of s--t
Terrible.
Yep. No violin, no Kansas. And Drastic Measures is more of a mediocre John Elefante solo album than a Kansas album. Even two of the three Kerry Livgren songs are just average(Mainstream is excellent). It sounded like a mediocre Foreigner album
Genesis: No, We Can't Dance was crap too, along with Calling All Stations.
We Can’t Dance needed to be way shorter!!!!
The last two aren't Kansas albums. No Walsh, no Livgren, no Steinhardt wtf!?
Still good albums though…
I love a lot of We Can’t Dance, but agree with Scott.
Couple songs were filler and could have been cut
@@TheProgCornerIf they got all the crappy hits on singles only with the short fillers as B sides only, they could have had a 40 minute album titled Fading Lights that would have the good stuff only. Then after a year or so, release a EP with all the crap on the singles.
My all time favorite musician is Peter Gabriel. His self-titled second album "scratch" was a great disappointment at the time and never grew on me. There's nothing but mediocrity. Most of my least favorite songs throughout his career are on this album. Campy is not his strength...
I don’t like that album either. And it was produced by Robert Fripp. So…
The last Velvet Underground album was a real shitter.
Now THAT is an excellent call!!!!!!!
Sorry scot,but i like 'calling all stations' canno't compare to their classics of course,but i would definitely put it above 'Genesis to revelation'😊
And Ray Wilson is a great Singer. Saw him very often.
@@ofenblase3713 If I listen to Calling All Stations as a Genesis album, eh...but if I listen to it as a Ray Wilson album, I like it quite a bit.
How about Supertramp , Free As A Bird .., yikes ..,
@@Matias-music-71 Free As A Bird is a flaming turd, but the two that followed weren't much better
@@michaelbaucom4019 , agreed
Kansas! Yeah, DM wasn’t that good 😞 but those first 6 albums 👍🏻😊
I think Drastic Measures is a terrific listen. Top five Kansas for me. What it isn't though, is a prog album. 🙂
All six - 10/10.
I was fully expecting The Velvet Underground to be #1. Squeeze is the ultimate turkey album.
It should have been there!!!
Nah. I have VU's Squeeze and will happly defend its right to exist. Its a stonking wee album with cracking tunes. Nothing wrong there, and it had an audible link to Loaded. Had they continued, Squeeze would have been seen as a transitional album for the VU, much as Fleetwood Mac moved on from Peter Green. Many deride the album without listening to it or giving it a chance. Similarly those same 'armchair critics with 5 albums' discount Soft Machine's jazzier excursions or late period Gong. All it requires is a well honed pair of ears ....and an occasional beer. And another thing......etc. (Editors note: rant continues for several more hours....)
@@ianbrown3304 Sweeeet! Let's fight! (respectfull). I think Doug Yule rarely gets any respect for his contributions to VU. Loaded might be my fave VU album, and he fits in seamlessly and sounds heavenly on Who Loves the Sun. I was kind of annoyed that Todd Haynes VU doc pretty handily dismissed Doug Yule and doesn't mention Squeeze. But, that said, Squeeze doesn't sound like the VU at all (to me anyway). As i understand it he was making a solo album and got wrangled via contractual obligation and management pressure to release it under the VU name. It probably would have been fine as a DOug Yule solo record but it sucks as a VU album. Without Lou it has no soul. It sounds and feels like a crass cash grab still to this day. And, as I said, I don't fully blame Doug Yule for this disaster. I have tried so many times to get into this album.
Catfish rising is great
Yeah, I never dug it…
I did not mind Kansas Drastic Measures.. As a Huge fan I quite liked a few songs from it. The one Kansas album that was a real dud for me is In the Spirit of Things!
Beatles - White Album, Gentle Giant - Giant For a Day, Edgar Broughton Band - Oora, Caravan - Waterloo Lily, David Bowie - Young Americans, Camel - Dust & Dreams.
Wow. Some surprises here.
Cheap Trick The Doctor, all of their other albums are good or better. Hot Space from Queen is pretty bad. I think the only Bad Beatles is album is actually Let it be, never liked most of the songs. Id also include the Kinks, I think Preservation Act 2 is their only really bad album. Rush Vapor Trails, sorry could never get into this one at all
I included Queen because I have had a change of heart on Hot Space!!! Cheap Trick is a great call. The Doctor was terrible.
Congratulations on reaching 12k subs Scot your totally killing it! I'm glad I found your channel when I did! Looking forward to that Mike Oldfield ranking! Peace and love! :)
I’m glad you did too!!!
Frank Zappa has only one album that I would consider bad: Thing Fish. I can’t listen to that album anymore. Playground Psychotics comes close, but there’s enough good music in between all the secretly recorded dialog to make it not bad. And I do like all the orchestral stuff both in the modern and Baroque styles such as The Perfect Stranger and Francesco Zappa.
His discography is insane.
Seriously Calling To The Stations it is worse than Abacab?
I think it is.
I've always loved Beatles for Sale. "I'm a Loser," "No Reply," great stuff. I also like Drastic Measures. Admittedly, if I like a band, I'm not hard to please when it comes to their catalog. 😂
That’s a good way to be!!!
Don't dislike any of these albums.... just don't spin em much...
OUTSTANDING
Thank you!!!
Blackfields fourth release.
Boston - Life, Love & Hope
A good call.
Guys! Come On! Calling All Stations may not be The Lamb…. or Selling England…. but it is not sh1t either. I have every album by Genesis (and then some!) since I first heard of and discovered them in 1974. In my opinion CAS is a good album. A very good album. It does take some time to get into and to understand it, but when you invest some time and you listen to it, over and over, you begin to hear some real interesting stuff in there. Stuff that will call you back again and again.
Beatles - "Let It Be" - No George Martin, no quality control.
White Album ? Remove like 6 songs and it would be decent .
What a mess!!! But some of the material was stellar. Spector redeemed himself with The Ramones ten years later.
In my opinion, there’s no bad Beatles album. The worst (With The Beatles, again IMO) is still greater than many band’s greatest. Beatles for Sale has a really soft spot for me, actually.
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Not a band, but he had a few bands: Pat Metheny Zero Tolerance for Silence. Many people say it was revenge on Geffen. But I think it is an essential album to understand the complexity of Pat Metheny and how he played guitar on occasions. I can actually sit and listen to the whole thing every once in a while. It's not based on melody or harmony or even rhythm but on the layering of noise.
A good call. That’s a weird record.
What could possibly make that garbage worth anyone's time? Dude gets a record deal, can do whatever he wants with it, and then like a child gets pissy and deliberately churns out a pile of shit. I'm asking seriously
@@michaelbenz8092 'essential album to understand the complexity of Pat Metheny'. This why you jazz heads who *think* you're smart are actually dumb. It's just crap. Nobody "needs" to listen to crap to "understand" some fucking artists' 'complexities'.
@@michaelbenz8092 'essential album to understand the complexity of Pat Metheny'. Do you even hear yourself? This is why you jazzheads that *think* you're so smart are actually pretty dumb. Nobody "needs" to listen to crap to better understand an artist's "complexity". This is why I can't take jazzheads seriously. Honestly, man...
Marillion indeed released one poor album. And that was Hapiness is the Road (well to my ears that is).
When you put them all together it's scary!
Great show, you Groovy Ghoulie! I will state a VERY contrarian take: Styx ~ Crash of the Clown. 🤡 Reason number one is the songs are far too short. Just as you expect it to start cooking, it’s over.
Number two: no lead vocals from the Godfadda of Styx on a full song?! This is the first time that’s ever happened. My theory when they made Will “WeirdAlYankovic” a full time member was that JY would retire. That has yet to happen. I was told about 25 years ago - by someone in the know - that JY’s hearing was shot. We know his voice is now a shadow of its former self. When are you going to retire, Gramps? Maybe never, because if he does, then it’s The Tommy Shaw Show and not Styx. But then again, is it really Styx now without…
Number three: No Dennis the Menace. That nutty cat was the visionary of the band. Is this ragtag group of ragamuffins really Styx anymore? Hmmm… 🤔 the mind boggles. Obviously, Styx are “more Styx” than Foreigner is nowadays, but c’mon man. Everyone raves about The Mission and Crash of the Clown, 🤡 but I feel The Mission is easily the better album. In fact, both of the late period Kansas records are better than Crash Corrigan. And my Styx fandom goes all the way back to 1977.
Oh well, “anyway you slice it, it comes up Kraft!”
Fascinating topic, Scot… although we’ll all see this differently.
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PS: Dug your GBV show from yesterDAyVE. And l concur sir, Do the Collapse is quite excellent. Ric Ocasek brought a nice sheen to the Ohio boys and “Teenage FBI” friggin’ RULES!
I LOVE the short fragments and schizophrenic (almost Guided by Voices like) nature of Crash Of The Crown. But we agree on the two new Kansas albums. And The Mission. (One day you will see the error of your ways, my friend!!!)
Under Wraps is a disaster from Tull. Giant For A Day is awful from Gentle Giant. In The Hot Seat is awful so is Love Beach. Locked In Wishbone Ash is pure dirt. Performance by Eloy is poor. Slaves and Masters is so bad from Deep Purple. The Endless River from Pink Floyd is total trash.
Endless River. Good call. And I kinda learned to “like” Giant For A Day. I HATED it for years!!!
Jethro Tull... Lap of Luxury...
Absolutely horrid
Kansas Absence of Presence
Queen.. Hot Space
Genesis: We Can't Dance
Marrilion, most albums with Hogarth
ELP: agree
Beatles: Yellow Submarine
Wow beatles for sale is my 3rd favorite beatles album 😢
Uh oh!!!😰
Gentle Giant. Oh yeah
I have come around a bit on Giant For A Day so they didn’t make the list?!!!
@@TheProgCorner a shocking development. Maybe I should relisten too.
Bernie Rhodes was the main reason Cut The Crap sucked as much as it did. There are demo versions which hint at what could have been and a very unofficial but amazing re-recording of these tunes that sound like classic Clash had they not been railroaded & derailed by Bernie. The shittiest drum machine sounds and awful mixes are all on him. This is England still makes this album worth having. The last great Clash song. I'd also recommend checking out Sparks version of We Are the Clash. The song is great, but the recording and mix on CTC are abysmal.
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Calling All Stations could have been much better if Genesis had replaced about 3/4 of the album with some of the B-sides. Those were some of the best songs they'd written in years. Then they might have successfully reinvented themselves and continued on into the 21st century instead of bringing their recording career to a screeching halt.
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Mike Rutherford - Acting Very Strange; Prefer Smallcreep’s Day.
Original recording of Vapor Trails; Sound of Neil’s drums improved on the remix.
Yeah, the VT remix was soooooo much better!!!!
Really hard...mist long standing bands have many clunkers
Great topic .. im.actually stumped
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Well Amy Fox ain't here, and if Amy Fox ain't here I couldn't care less🤘 so, you know, consider that I guess
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... and I just happened to be reripping my Beatles For Sale Mono CD as you mention it Scot! Umm... WTH!?! 🤣 Beatles '65/For Sale has always been a favorite of mine! It's all good, great video!
Yeah, that’s the one that I NEVER connected with - and it’s been in my life for what…59 years??!!!! But I think if it was any other band…
Difficult theme. Some of the "worst" albums from a band I do like, and some I don't but then this band has more 'bad ones'. Of course it's personal taste but I came up with a top 5:
1. U2 - Pop (never really liked that one).
2. Jethro Tull - Under Wraps (I don't mind Catfish rising, but Under Wraps, with that synthy drumming just doesn't do it for me)
3. Deep Purple - Turning to Crime (I like some songs but most are no-no's)
4. Godley & Creme - Freeze Frame (although I like the big single on it)
5. Utopia - Swing to the right (also never connected with that one).
👍👍Well done!!!
Yeah, Jethro Tull's "Catfish .." was a sort of a predictable, dud...but has a few good moments. "The Zealot Gene" was really weak and forgettable (I should mention that my two all time fave bands are Tull and Black Sabbath). Another fave band with an annoying album Gentle Giant "Giant 4 a day". I recently gave my original vinyl copy a spin, and realized that side 1 is "tolerable" and side 2 is annoying. But I'm sure that a lot of people who are not familiar with their previous albums or who are not prog fans, would like it. The production and musicianship is, as usual, top-notch but the "namby-pamby" predictable songs are embarrassing. The recent Iron Maiden album , "Senjutsu" was a real disappointment...Just remembered "the single factor" from Camel, I bought it when it came out and gave it away shortly thereafter.
I like Senjutsu but it could have been better. Hell On Earth saves it. And I have warmed up to Giant For A Day…
I would pick a different album for Marillion (Somewhere Else) and for Tull (Under Wraps), but The Beatles don't have a bad album!
I actually really like how “off” Under Wraps sounds.
Awesome video have a great day Scot also happy first day of October ❤😊
Yes!!! Happy October!!!
Squeeze by Velvet Underground, maybe almost True Stories by Talking Heads. I would say all Stones albums are at least decent, except for the ridiculously awful Dirty Work. Other voices by Doors is decent, Full Circle not at all. Was expecting Giant For A Day but suppose you have warmed to it a bit.
Velvet Underground!!!! A great call.
The Velvet Underground - Squeeze. If you consider it a VU album…
That is the correct answer!!!!
Fresh takes from Scott... we've come to expect it from you but not taking it for granted. Star Castle... Wow.
Yes sir!!!!!
ROXY MUSIC, I think they are prog and all albums are good or great but some, you, will say that Flesh and Blood is bad, ok. yet still no love for ROXY, all their core members are great specially Phil Manzanera who btw had fantastic solos albums including in the 801 live album. yes i'm going to stay on you until you at least mention them. from another Scott
Roxy!!!! I totally agree!!! Flesh+Blood was not a good album!!!!
Hmm…wracking my brain on this one. I’ve come up with Electric Light Orchestra and their last album from their classic period which was Balance of Power. Not so good when you consider great albums like Eldorado and Face the Music. I’m sure there are more bands that have one bad record but ELO is the only one I can think of. It’s a good topic Scot.
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Thanks, Scott. It is incredible that only a year separates Beatles for Sale and Rubber Soul ! It is like going from the Dark Ages to the Renaissance in one week ! Having said that, I do enjoy the album !
It felt like the only lateral move in their career.
First Band that came into my mind was Toto. Their Album Tambu was really boring for me. Another two bands that came to my mind, both from my home country Germany, are Grobschnitt with Merry-Go-Round and Triumvirat with Russian Roulette. Interesting topic, I love it.
I thought about Triumvirat but there are two albums of theirs I’m not super keen on: Russian Roulette and A La Carte…
Mitt i Livett by my favourite artist of all time Bo Hansson, and Equator by Uriah Heep, although it has one amazing track on it: Night of the Wolf.
I haven’t heard all of that Bo Hansson album. What I’ve heard from it is bad…
For Be Bop-Deluxe, I wouldn't say I like drastic plastic. I like red noise and even Bill's solo stuff afterward, too. Just not drastic plastic
Yeah that was their weakest.
Yes, indeed.
Manic Street Preachers-Rewind the Film. Gloomy and depressing, even by their standards!
I heard it once. So disappointed!!!! But what a great great great band.
Very entertaining Scot.
Have you noticed that In The Hot Seat and the new Sweet album, Full Circle, have virtually the same cover?
I did notice that!!!
If you think Lulu was a bad album by Lou Reed try listening to Metal Machine Music .....
I have!!!! It’s…um…er…interesting???
Note for the future Scot. When you make a comment and claim like that against the Beatles . . you then need to quickly duck! My shoe just missed the screen. 😮😊
I had to get all controversial!!!! I love love love The Beatles but Beatles 65 hardly ever got played in the Lade household growing up and Beatles For Sale did not have much more of an impact. Any other band - it’s probably their best album!!!!
Catfish rising is not terrible, its only fair. Calling all stations is a return to the progressive roots of Genesis, come on the prog corner should love it! It just goes to show that all the progressive elements in the world, cannot make a record interesting by themselves. A hit is a hit is a hit, no matter the genre. It must retain some rock and roll or pop hooks. Beatles 65 is not terrible record by any standard except by the Beatles standard.
You hit the nail squarely on the head about 65. If it were any other band!!!
I don't mind Drastic Measures by Kansas, but In The Spirit Of Things bores me to tears.
I need the violin!!!
I think most Queen fans would nominate Hot Space for this category.
I disagree, its a good album.... just out of line with the type of music we expected from them.
Catfish rising was the last Jethro Tull album I actually enjoyed.
I never got into it for some reason!!!
Can's 'Out of Reach' was their low point.
Good example!!!
Hey Scot👍🏿. Interesting topic, and no entry for Yes? Union?
Union and Heaven & Earth. So I think they have two “bad” albums…
I like the majority of albums mentioned here. Different ears and all that.
That’s right!!!!
I'll nominate Caravan and Better By Far....oh no it wasn't!
Yep.
Can't dispute any of these, even Beatles For Sale, but if I was to pick a single Genesis album that I really don't rate (Genesis to Revelation is fine) then it's got to be Abacab. Just can't get into that one, I like Duke, love the self titled from 83 and Invisible Touch, so it's not a Phil v Peter thing. Just can't get into it. Even Calling All Stations has its moments.
People really dislike Abacab!!!!
Triumvirat - Russian roulette.
A La Carte was pretty bad too…
Speaking of Starcastle and Renaissance...a bit of trivia...Annie Haslam painted the cover of the Starcastle album Song of Times. My candidate for "One Bad Album" bands, The Alan Parsons Project's "The Sicilian Defense."
There you go!!!!!!! I thought Song Of Times was Ed Unitsky!!!!
@@TheProgCorner They did it together. It was both of them.
Ah!!!! Learn something new every day!!!!
Sorry Scott but Yes - Open Your Eyes is the only terrible YES album. From the Balcony is bearable but the rest of it is absolute rubbish. Thankfully given their huge discography that’s dang impressive!
Union and Heaven & Earth are disappointing too…
@@TheProgCorner as is The Quest but each of those albums have a couple of GREAT songs but sadly not great (but not terrible) albums.
Topper Headon wrote "Rock the Cashbah" and got fired due to Heroine........
Yeah, he was on it bad.
But it’s Rock N Roll, man!!!!
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In the Hot Seat by ELP is my selection. The cover of Man in the Long Black Coat is the only song I like. Like you said Love Beach is much better other than the hideous album cover photograph.
I can probably come up with four or five songs from Hot Seat that I enjoy to some extent.
@@micolsen9824 that's why music is so great. What one person likes , another person might not like.
I agree on all accounts, mi amigo! "Love Beach" is actually a fantastic album. Just picked it up on vinyl and it sounds better than ever.
It was the album cover…
@@TheProgCorner Hahaha yeah it really is a terrible album cover. Almost humorous how bad it is.
Black Sabbath - Never Say Die
Yes - Union
Genesis - We Can't Dance (I'll take Stations over it any day)
Judas Priest - Ram It Down (the less successful Turbo)
Iron Maiden - The X Factor
I thought Tomato was bad too so maybe they had more than one bad album. Can't believe i typed that
Black Sabbath had several awful albums and Never Say Die isn't one of them. Forbidden on the other hand is a dried blob of parrot droppings and Born Again is just wrong from start to finish.
@@Darrylizer1 Never Say Die is terrible. I used to think Forbidden was their weakest, but the new remix from the box set is pretty good.
@@sabbracadabra7503 I like it more than Forbidden, a lot more. They took chances on that one. Forbidden is mostly dreck with a couple of ok tunes. But I haven't heard the remix. I'll check it out.
The Beatles "For Sale" has some fillers.
These I never really cared for much:
- "Words of Love" : I get it. The love for Buddy Holly and it's not bad. Just a bit boring
- "Baby's in Black" : Not a total stinker, but it doesn't smell good either
- "Mr. Moonlight" : Now, this is a stinker
- "Kansas City/Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey!": I bet it could make the roof take off live in the Hamburg days, but not so much on record
- "Honey Don't" : Ringo dooooont....
- "I Don't Want to Spoil the Party" : It's allright, I guess. But I wouldn't play it at a party.
- "Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby": They really could have done more with this
But then again these:
- "No Reply" : In my honest opinion the best song on the album
- "Rock and Roll Music": This is a kick ass version and evidence of this being a full throttle rock'n'roll band when they wanted to be
- "I'll Follow the Sun": A beautiful little song with great melodic quality
- "Every Little Thing": There's a reason Yes did a cover of this, because it's a very good song with some interesting twists
- "Eight Days a Week": It's a huge hit for a reason
Now these I had to give a couple of spins to remind myself:
- "I'm a Loser": Never a favourite of mine, still isn't
- "What You're Doing": Now, this is far better than I remembered.
The album cover, however....it's so good because it tells the story about why this album isn't their best work.
Nevertheless, that was my take on your top posting today. Still trying to land after yesterday's BIG BIG TRAIN gig in Oslo.
Much love from the Oslo Weirdo
BBT and Beardfish!!!! Oh my!!!!!
@@TheProgCorner And I had beers with the band afterwards. They just bumped into my regular water hole just down the road and settled down. Had a really nice chat with Claire, Nick and Gregory.
Aaaaaand I sort of mentioned The Prog Corner, just for the record.
Holidays in Eden, Catfish Rising are... definitely NOT bad albums..
Okay!
My favourite band is Yes and Heaven and Earth should be on the list.
But Union and Open Your Eyes…
@@TheProgCorner I do like Union
This was a great vídeo. No country music for me either 😀
No thanks!!!!🙂↔️
1. Love Beach (ELP)
2. Roll the Bones (Rush)
3. Calling all stations (Genesis)
4.The final cut (Pink Floyd)
5. Union (Yes)
6. Stationary Traveller (Camel)
7. All the u2 albums (except Unforgetable fire)
I actually like Lulu, however I am not a huge post And Justice for all Metallica fan.
I hear you there.
I’m a big Tallica fan but never heard it..I do have Apple Music..maybe after several beers?
@@Prognosis__I resisted listening to it until recently. I am a Lou Reed fan, not even close to everything but generally appreciate his artistic presence. I enjoy that Metallica is the backing band here and are playing differently ( maybe more simplistic) than they would on one of their records. This is an odd record and I always applaud big artists doing projects that take risks. David Bowie said it was Lou’s best work so have those beers and crank it up.
Queen. Hot Space. Horrid
I have learned to like it. Weird.
Maybe yer right. But, Under Pressure does not a good album make.
And the winner is... Steven Wilson with his awful, disgusting disco MTV album
I have slowly learned to “like” it but I don’t think I will ever LOVE it…
My criterion: you have to compare the albums within the band level. For example, in the case of Led Zeppelin, their last album (In through the out door) is a bad album. The band was already broken, relationships were bad, and Page's influence was very limited.
That being said, is it a horrible album? No. But it is a very weak album in comparison to his classic albums, several masterpieces.
In the case of Geneesis (one of the top five prog bands of all time), IMO the big, good albums concluded with Duke. Everything after that is really very weak, weak, bad, pop. Awful.
Yes indeed!!!
I'll take "Calling All Stations" over "The Lamb..." any day, all day.
Yes "Union"
Styx "Cyclorama"
Chicago "17" - the songs are good, but the production makes it unlistenable!
Gentle Giant "Giant For A Day"
Oh my!!!
Just one Queen bad album?????????????? 😂
I like Hot Space!!!
What? Still clickbait week?? Beatles for Sale might be their weakest album but would still be in the top 25% of Pop/Rock releases of the past 60 years (some viewers would claim top 10% and I'd struggle to disagree) Otherwise, words of wisdom as always, Scot. Maybe just another dose of that anti-venom before your next video, eh? 😁
Mountain Dew is my anti-venom!!!!
Deep Purple's "Slaves and Masters" sucks...I also think "The Construction of Light" is not such a great Crimson King album...by the way..is King Crimson related to King Chucky ?..😅😂 2:54
I think so!!!
Beatles for Sale? It has some filler but it's hardly bad.
No Beatles is “bad.” But…
Led Zeppelin has one bad album- Presence. That album has only one good song- Achilles Last Stand.
I actually really like Presence!!!
Megadeth “Risk”
I heard that one wasn’t any good. So I never listened to it!!!!
Cas isn't a bad album
If it weren’t a Genesis album…