Army Unveils The NEW CHALLENGER 3 Main Battle Tank!
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- Опубликовано: 6 май 2021
- The British Army has unveiled its new Challenger 3 Battle Tank, which is designed to be one of the most advanced tanks in the world.
The MOD is spending £800 million on a fleet of 148 vehicles, with the first expected to come into service from 2027.
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LOWER PLATE BETTER NOT BE 76mm
Wouldn't be surprised
Pretty junk tank compared to what's out right now, I don't think any of britain's adversary's are shaking in their boots over this one.
Designing real tanks for them to be good in WT
The hull won’t change much
Just new turret
Thus they remove it entirely.
now i have to upgrade my tesco shopping trolley .
Ah, a fellow of the Bosnian Ape Society perhaps?
Ah a fellow man of culture. Better add more guns if you live in Birmingham
I understood that reference :D
asda is better!
How am I going to protect my PC from this now???
One thing about the Brits is they build excellent tanks. I was a Cavalry Scout during desert storm and went to iraq for the 2nd go. I heard and saw nothing but good things about the challenger tanks. The British also invented the chobham/dorchester armour we use on the our M1 and on some of our other vehicles. I served from 1990-2007 and I miss it.
How did you find the armour on the hatch of your warrior.
Did you Carry fuel attached to warrior rear.
Did you have track protection against anti tank missles which could disable a track.
Brothers in arms. 🇬🇧 🇺🇸.❤️
150 tanks wouldn't defend a McDonald's down Oxford Street gainst Xtinction Rebellion. Fakin joke mate.
Who did you fight against in Iraq? Against Bedouins on camels? 😃
did you ask yourself why you go into iraq, because of WMD, they never exist. (Western agression). 1million deaths in iraq
"Why is 148 tanks enough" ...... Because its all we can afford
evidence that military spending will works backwards from a budget rather than an actual need.... a subsidy for domestic arms manufacturers
realistically though, with more tanks, which country in the world would we use them against? I didn't see many tanks being used in Afghanistan.
@@Cheedillow and they arent poor citizens.
I mean the owners of those manufacturers.
@@Cheedillow I’m pretty sure the manufacturers of this new kit aren’t domestic. Isn’t it all being made on the continent?
@@MattDW45 this contract was won by BAE Systems
Imagine one of these coming at you at 60mph whist you're sitting in a Tesco's car park huffing gas.
I wonder if that’s actually what is capable of going regularly. Or if that’s just the technical capability but will have a governor on the engine much like the Abrams.
@@hummerskickass that will be a road speed which is very hard to maintain and will use a hell of a lot of fuel, I doubt it will ever be used apart from in willy waving contests.
It’d be amazing if it could reach that speed, challenger was always touted as the most heavily armoured MBT so having the best gun in NATO plus being one of the fastest would mean the iron triangle will be well and truly balanced.
Lol.😂
Imagine a world with no war!
"Firstly, it has fancy computers and Wi-Fi on board..." *sees interviewer yawn*
"Secondly, it has a bigger gun"
Just say it has a tea kettle built in and everyone will be satisfied
In my opinion the 120 mm gun doesn't have enough reserves anymore. They should have switched to a 130 mm gun from the beginning leaving more options available. Also an autoloader is a must today, to reduce crew size to 3 or less.
I wonder if the Challenger 3 does have hard kill systems to protect itself.
@@OpenGL4ever What? I thought reduced crewsize is one of the downsides of an autoloader? Also, I think they went with the L55A1 because thats one of the best cannons which are also widely available, I am not sure where the 130 sits between concept and finished product.
@@poccer7722 It depends on your goals.
If your goal is to have a small economic army with less soldiers that costs less, a 3 tank crew is better than a 4 tank crew.
After a battle it's easier to replace an autoloader than an experienced crew member. And if the tank gets hit, only 3 might die, not 4.
For a modern army in our today's society it's more important to have no or only few casualtys of soldiers and also the maintenance cost plays a bigger role. A smaller army is cheaper, than a army with > 1 mio soldiers.
Reducing crew-sizes can be seen everywhere. Not only in main battle tanks, but also on ships and aircrafts.
The advantage of having 4 crew members in a tank is to balance the work that has do be done on a tank.
The larger 130 mm has about 50 % more firepower and energy than the 120mm.
@@OpenGL4ever I pretty much agree. The argument for 4 crew members is to have an additional human operator, who can take a wide variety of tasks instead of just loading like an autoloader. One thing I have never seen anyone talk about though is this: when the tank is going over rough terrain, is it even possible to load the gun as a human loader? Isn't it incredibly dangerous to handle 120mm shells while the tank is rocking up and down? A big plus for autoloaders imo.
And yes, the 130mm is unquestionably better than the 120, but I think the major roadblock is that the 120 is well established economically, you can easily restock ammo and spare parts, while there isn't even a basic assembly line for the 130, and I guess GB wants the CL3 to enter service as fast as possible, ergo before the 130 gets the green light. Also cost.
I care not how fancy the new turret is! What is the tea boiling capabilities like? We must know!
I hear they have exclusive contracts with yorkshire tea, and mcvities to provide 'ordinance' for this new battle system. No doubt the new data sharing capability will aid in identifying friendly targets (and how much milk they like) ;)
It's new automated detection system will be able to identify and target coffee drinkers up to 5 miles away!
@@robbieshand6139 ah yes, I hear it can detect bean juice in the air at 1 part per million.
This is important
To answer your question: Yes, it has a kettle.
It's great to see the latest version of this tank class. My grandfather had something to do with the design of the Challenger Mk 1 so it's brilliant to know his technical skill is still around and an important part of the British Army even though he now sadly isn't. He would have been proud and I have several happy teenage memories of visits to Bordon Camp with him. Best of luck Challenger Mk 3!
60mph over rough ground. We need another race with a range rover sport.
THE SPEEEEED!
@FoulPrinceRomero man of culture I see
Go forward, Great-Britain! Long live the Nato! Long live freedom! Down with all dictatorships and terrorists all around the world! Best wishes from Germany!
I remember that well! JC had his work cut out that day. 60 mph would only be top road speed though.
a lot of british tank are fast
With a BV onboard that can make enough tea for the entire crew to drink with Sports Direct mugs too
When I clicked on this video I wanted to comment on its tea making capacity.... But being a British tank I knew I was already late.
sports direct mugs 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bigger is better
The really big sports direct mugs?
Fitted gyro stabiliser mug holders
Britain may not produce much anymore when it comes to basic goods, but we sure know how to produce high tech still! Very proud.
Produce like tiger tank in ww2. Russian produce more T 34 during ww2.
Did you miss the part where they said it´s developed and produced by Rheinmetall, a German company?
@@vloplob I guess I did. I’m such a hypocrite. Also, you liked your own comment seconds after posting.
@@vloplob While it is being produced by a German company, Germans themselves do not have the same lethality as the British military has. Just a couple of months ago 150 Royal Marines beat over a thousand American marines in exercises.
@@sebastiangruenfeld141 How is that relevant for this discussion and why do you think germans are "less leathal" than brits? You base that on an exercise they did with the US? What kind of an argumentative structure is that?
"Digital tank." You wouldn't download a Challenger 3.
Freezes, Windows Update is downloading... or anti-virus software is scanning your files...
Challenger 3.exe has stopped working.
Meanwhile in War Thunder forums after argument...
"full operating capability by 2030"
"aww, but i'm angry *_NOW!_* "
lol the Simpsons ?? :D
@@buchan448 "doh!" You got it 😉 lol
ps. wow, cheers for likes folks, glad could brighten up someones day, even just for a moment. peace
@@trje246 woop woop :D
"They decided to buy British".
A few seconds later: "Challenger 3 will be produced by Rheinmetall" 😂
@@UserPendingDeletion I know, I just having a laugh 😁
@@UserPendingDeletion Rubbish, Rheinmetall is not owned in any way by BAE systems. Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land is a joint venture company between Rhienmetall (55%) and BAE systems (45%). By your logic, Jaguar and Land Rover owned by Tata are Indian??? I don't think so.
@@UserPendingDeletion I don’t think so. Do you have a reference? Rheinmetall and BAE systems created a joint venture especially for this and the boxer so that British industry is involved (Rheinmetall BAE Land Systems).
Doesn’t really matter who is building them, so long as it’s a NATO member company.
The point is they are being built in UK with the added bonus of £20 million being spent on upgrading manufacturing capability in the UK as well.
Was looking for this. Not disappointed.
“New cooling system for the engine”
BUT WHAT WILL HEAT THE TEA?
A standard BV I'm guessing.
the pure will power to drink tea will itself heat the tea
Never underestimate the power of tea! The British helped win a world war on it.....it could have all ended differently if Hitler had discovered tea!
Hahaha typical American arnt you?
@@camieyt6260 who you talking to and why???
Good news of updating the tank fleet . The only criticism is I would like to see a far bigger order . Double that number .
Who would drive them and maintain them? And where does the money come from? New round of austerity incoming from the Tories.
@@Daz555Daz to be fair, they said they are considering to increase the numbers after Ukraine.
We had 900 tanks once, yes, we did I remember they were all at the same crossroads in the German countryside during Lionheart 1984
I understand that people want the UK to have a strong military but the government won’t ever give the military the funding. I think that it would be great if it happened but it just never will
Yep, I was in a hide counting them! lol
@@fightingdrake8193 no point in a large military the uk is a tiny island, navy and airforce is more important.
@@marcuscaines9168 Yh, the other thing is, if their comes a time where we need them. We’ll just build more
@@napalmhotdog4365 yeah it is not rocket science really.
For years I’ve prayed we have a Challenger 3, and here we are. This is such a proud moment!!
Same
In 2027
Trust the Germans to save the chally, chally 2 hull German turret , its chally 2.5 imo...
And now Scotland is Mc leaving ayyyyy Ronald McDonald is coming home.
@@gravemind3590
Hope you've got plenty of "Mc'Bucks" to lend him, because he's gonna be absolutely skint when he does leave 😉
Absolutely beautiful. But then again, I would expect nothing less from the pioneers of the tank.
I am just curious if their main gun is so stable, so it could hold cup of tea upright just like the Leopard 2 video with a beer on the turret
It’s the same gun so yeah
Of course, all western stabilizers can
"We're ditching our tanks..."
_Russia and China take interest_
*"Sike."*
Lmao
148 tanks because it's not for Russia or China. But for their little side projects where they attack a developing country, kill a few hundreds thousands and then they need a different kind of tool to build the "peace".
@@senor6370
They’ll make more
@@ethanmcfarland8240 So more side projects?
Lmao
But is there a kettle inside, if not we'll I'm not smiling
of course there will be!
Am in then
Its british. Ofcorse it will have a kettle inside. Its in the queens regs
Ist part German so you'll have to make do with a sausage boiler. Or in German a Wurstbrennerkrautkochener.
There won't be a kettle. There will be a boiling vessel (BV) which is a much bigger kettle thats also warms up your lunch hahaha
It's nice to hear at the beginning of the video that the defence PM actually knows what is he talking about.
This is quiet unusuall.
Nice piece of equipment greetings from Greece.
The UK Minister for Defence has, historically, always been a ex-military officer. Thats pretty common around the world actually.
2:28 - "There's an open architecture on the platform that allows us to integrate with other tanks"
It's important to keep the ability to design & build tanks. This great news.
For sure.... people are getting up set that "only"148 are being bought. I feel these people don't know how much these tanks willl cost. It's good that they're built here in the UK.
@@danielmarshall4587 they do know, it's about £800m 😂
@@danielmarshall4587 I worry about such small numbers resulting in very low readiness rates. You have to consider how many will be undergoing maintenance, overhaul and such. Because you’re never going to have all 148 of these available at any given time. The UK is banking on never having to fight a major protracted war again. I suspect 148 will double as the years go by and Britain reevaluates its plan.
They clearly didn't remember their gaping weak spot with the driver view port and their barely armored lower plate... They should have redesigned the front.
You can thank the Germans at Rheinmetal lmao.
Dodge is really changing the game. I thought my Challenger was outdated when back up cameras were a thing.
Took me a moment to get your reference there lol...
Nice!
Are these tanks built in Mexico?
Next tank is gonna be Challanger 4 Hellcat muscle tank
the challenger 2 holds a few extreme records, the most kills in a minute, it has been deployed in a full scale tank engagements during Iraqi freedom JUST as intense as the Abrahams - which suffered hundreds of losses - and not a singe c2 has been destroyed by enemy fire. its battle proven and its record is flawless. Just don't say this tank is outdated until you can compare it with any other tank currently in service with a battle record coming even close to it. most of the tanks in peoples 'top 10 list haven't fire a bullet in anger. and everybody's imaginary number one - leopard was embarrassed in Syria, EMBARRASSED with small arms fire.
That's a fine looking MBT, congratulations.
Full operations 2030 - that’s a lot of Whitehall spending review cycles to get through.
Imagine having a tank that can go as fast as your average car on the highway while being able to crush most things in its path.
A true juggernaut
While blowing those yellow speed cameras up
Having to stop every 50 miles to refuel
@@GewelReal You're no fun :(
@@RcNerd damn hate those things
@@RcNerd and the sneaker bastards in their vans👍
Wow . Still build a great tank in this country . And great news for Telford
As long as it doesn’t run out of fuel trying to negotiate the labyrinthine ring road on the way to the M54!
The Leopard would have been better, but at least it’s a German company building it.
Britain is always one step behind everyone else, by 2027 the next generation tanks will be used by everyone else! 😏
@@Redgolf2 yeah next joke
@@Redgolf2check out the full upgrade list on their twitter. CR3 is just objectively going to be a MUCH faster and better protected tank with superior optics and the same fire power. leopard 2s spotlight as NATOs best tank is coming to an end.
@@rayhan_2k841 dream on with your upgraded challenger 2. Poor island solution not a new development like the Germans and French are heading for. Why is nobody else buying your superior tank? Why do you need german technology to upgrade it? I think you must be a Brexit guy riding unicorns.
Excellent stuff bro, stay strong for the future
I knew Chris Tickell back in the 80s in Norway with the Royal Engineers, he was a Captain then, great man, great officer, good to see him again.
Damn, now War Thunder’s forum is gonna be filled with “Challenger 3 when???”
THIS ^^^ lmao i can see this being added before its even in service
Plz Gaijibbbbllllz plz gib Challenger 3!!!
Dammit, the challanger 2 alone is capable of giving me a lot of troubles from the front now i have to face the challanger 3?
cringe
They already said no to it being added.
I love the difference between UK military comment sections and US. I study all nations military’s because I’m a nerd, And I’d like to thank you guys for being the kindest of the bunch
Well I guess having had a reducing military that is no longer as dominant as it once was we military buffs do love it when we see an upgrade and improvement. Shows we are at least staying current.
@@scootergrant8683 If they play it right it could be a good move. America will always provide the numbers and bulk of any major conflict.
That means our stuff has 2 primary uses. One is warding off smaller nations and looking after our own interests, eg Falkland's. You don't need massive numbers for that, if you have the training and tech, as we've proven many times in the past.
2 is supporting NATO in the possibility of a large scale conflict. We'll never match America on numbers. Too expensive and requires too much personnel. But being able to provide a well trained and equipped punch where needed, could be invaluable. Nato's strength lies in quality and variety rather than numbers.
@Stink Meaner You know this how exactly?
The American comment sections tend to be more nationalistic in my opinion
@@themc.kennyshow6585
Americans seem much more patriotic compared to other people, in my opinion.
I'm not even British but I'm glad to see the poms are still building their own military equipment. Many workers learn skills from this kind of work and often go into spin-off projects unrelated to military areas to build new businesses. I wish Australia would do this more.
So we moke them and fight other people's war with them
Yeah we making your new ships.
That upgrade was invented and is built by rheinmetall
Man the R&D costs rolled up into only 148 units must be crazy. Each tank must be super expensive. They should make more of them. 5.4 million £ each!
Congratulations to the British Army from a retired US Army Para. She’s a beautiful looking tank !
I'm so happy. As there have been talks, and I think decisions, to remove all British tank regiments
*he
Whether we have enough troops to man the amazing things is another matter though...
@@iteor7320 we always had a relatively small professional army.
Why do people always gotta use she*...
Designers : How many optics do you need ?
Challenger 3 : *Y E S*
As a bearing engineer, working with over a hundred engineering departments, I can recite the bearing formulae. If you double the speed you cut the life in half. It you double the load you cut the life by a factor of eight. My work for over 30 year is; Low Impact Tracked Vehicles. My recommendation for tanks is to have four tracks with angle control instead of two. If you apply the power in the center and distribute it to the tracks, you can control the dynamics of the track system for all terrain operation.
Iguana
the Abraham uses Depleted Uranium and ultra dense tungsten among other things in their armor, that's why they are so heavy
"You can role up an enemy armoured brigade in a short period of time" you dont think the enemy could do the same? 148 is only enough for peacetime
148 is just this first batch. Every chance we will build more in the future.
Chances are we won’t be fighting alone either, in fact that chance is ridiculously low given our European and American allies.
I feel we should be focusing more on naval and air strength than that of the men on the ground. Fleet projection is key to maintaining peace. After all, these tanks are useless if they can’t be deployed over seas.
Quoting Stalin he once said that quantity has a quality of it's own and he was perfectly right even if he lost so many soldiers to fight the Germans. The point is what are you going to do with only 148 tanks considered how incredibly expensive these tanks cost per unit and I'm curious how many days it takes to produce one? I'm very perplexed 😖 😖...
@@fattyMcGee97 we wont build more because these are just conversions of existing tanks. It's going to take 10 years to convert 148 tanks, hardly cause for a party.
Tanks, especially modern ones, are very expensive and hard to produce. So in peace time or against 3th world countries, you don't need a full armor division. Because there isn't really a well equiped, well trained and battle hardened enemy right now, that will fight ferociously.
Ofcourse, when war does come around the corner, every modern country has plans for a war economy, where massive amounts of militairy equipment can be produced in a short amount of time.
But to be really honest, I absolutely dread the idea of a total war in this day and age... and so does every country. Only a country with a giant militairy, a economic and social instability, and that is in striking distance of weaker, but by NATO guaranteed neighbours posts any treath, as they might take the risk of all out war to save their nation by robbing their neighbours...
But I mean, what is the chance of such a country existing in our time right?... oh wait... we're boned
You're stuck in the 1950's
Numbers don't work the same way anymore
I love how everyone here is a tank engineer, it's suprising every single one of them ended up here.
I'm not!
you don't need to be to see that this tank is not future proof. It's what should have been the challenger II from the get go. It's an update of a really outdated design. It certainly will be already outdated by 2030.
@@tigerbesteverything I agree! I said that on a different thread on this vid. I'm no tank engineer, is Mr Davis?
I've watched quite a few "Tank Chats"
@@tigerbesteverything The UK knows that. It might be an intermediate tank, militaries have knowledge about upcoming technologies that we civilians do not have. We do not know the strategy of countries and history showed us that countries sometimes pass on a generation of vehicules.
Hope Squire makes a video about this one
What about the audio system? Tank crews need combat rock music of the Clash riding into battle. XD
Great news for British manufacturing as well 👏
Still German made...Rhinemetall is a German company based in Düsseldorf.
@@SavageBruce Its not German made is British made with German plans. It said in the video all tanks will be made in the UK.
@@SavageBruce rhinemetall and BAE. so joint
@@SavageBruce yes but I believe they have manufacturing ability in the UK. That or the guns will be built under license.
@@ashleygoggs5679 German plans, German profits! What they say and what they do aren't always the same. This is just a publicity stunt and planting Union Flags on it doesn't make it more British.
Wow. I’ve been searching the web for concepts of the Challenger 3 for years and now it’s finally here. Great work MOD 👍
Me too, not with any great effort though. This came as a pleasant surprise. I wonder who will buy the Mk 2's?
@@chrismitchell7801 Yes, i am glad i am not the only one who geeks out on this kinda stuff :)
@@chrismitchell7801 Challenger three is being built in the UK maybe the Challenger 2 could be reworked into three’s with a full pull down and rebuild?
@@komradearti9935 Yea they said that in the Gulf war. Smashed the elite of the Iraqi tanks to pieces. Actions speak louder than words.
Hope they can still carry a kettle and a brew
3:33, he is in the tank. Very cool.
There is no substitute for boots on the ground, but deeper than that, you need to win hearts and minds. That is the real challenge.
I love the use of a Challenger 2 digital model to tell us about the features of the Challenger 3
yea i thought that was ironic lol
they can't show everything its new tech
@@crimsoncloud6352 Using the right 3D model tells us nothing that the other clips and photos haven't already told us, the interviews are in front of the tank itself for god's sake
@@sentinelxcix2526 i was about to comment that
So basically the Challenger can now do what the American Apache could do 28 years ago sharing radar data or some chit. Also has some fancy digi ammo like those naval ship guns do.
“As we learned in Iraq....” Ahhh. Always fighting the last war.
That's the last time we used tanks though. We didn't operate them in Afghanistan.
MAD pretty much makes mass tank battles redundant nowadays.
@@mranonymous6156 Unless you are invading somewhere like Iraq or you have two peers without nuclear weapons. Attack helicopters and drones make tanks more unlikely not nukes.
@@alexanderfoster3628 I would hardly consider Iraq to be anywhere close to a near peer tho.
@@kolinmartz I never said it was. I meant between two similar countries i.e two warring neighbors somewhere in Africa or the middle east
There is one thing to keep in mind. No matter how advanced the ability to communicate real-time combat information across the battlefield to everyone depends upon satellites, in other words, if they're taken out of the equation then all this technology means nothing, and all will be blind on the battlefield, then it's back to the basics of warfare tactics.
We use tank to tank radio 📻 scrambled ghz secure comms /target sharing capability
Work of art
This looks great, glad to see that the challenger 2 is getting a good upgrade, and it’s good that they are taking crew feedback to make this the best tank it can be.
400 would be good.
So would 4000..
Only getting less than 200
Challenger 2 production ended almost 20 years ago and this program will only upgrade existing hulls and not produce new ones. I doubt that there even are 400 Challenger 2s in existance in Britain in total, so producing 400 Challenger 3s is physically impossible.
I guess the most important specs are secret then.. Like what type of armor does it have and what counter measures.
They finally saw the light, and came over to the smooth bore side of the force.
That’s pretty cool! Glad to hear the British are going up to grade their tank and make it in the UK.
@Zorro Laplaya they didn't really need to update the challenger 2, it did what it was supposed to very well.
Germany *
@@MinhNguyen-gh8zp its being made in the UK tho
@@MinhNguyen-gh8zp For a start, Rheinmetall literally just bought out an existing subsidiary of the British BAE systems. Rheinmetalls submission had a 130mm gun. The accepted Challenger III is an amalgamation of the British BAE and German Rheinmetall submissions.
German tank, like all the British brands that are now a sucess by Indians, and German car manufacturers
I do like how the news channel is obviously an extension of the U.K armed forces but aren’t too scared to ask more controversial questions to politicians and question brass. Keep up the good work!
But when they ask that sort of question they aren't overly invasive about it as well. Obviously they have to be somewhat to voice the potential concern but they don't overdo it. A very respectable quality.
Go forward, Great-Britain! Long live the Nato! Long live freedom! Down with all dictatorships and terrorists all around the world! Best wishes from Germany!
Great job and awesome tank.
Looks great, too bad it takes so long to make operational- I suppose complex systems are like that. Nevertheless, fantastic 👍🇬🇧
Nice release of info on my birthday, even though I'm from across the pond, I am a 33+ year US Army veteran and proudly support our allies wherever they may be. Cheers!
thanks
We will always be friends, Americans are great! Unfortunately I’m sure we will fight together in the future, just hopes it not a major conflict. Iran can never get nukes, I'm sure we both agree on that.
Never, ever doxx yourself
Happy Birthday!
God bless America & uk ,brothers in arms always ☮️💪🏾
Challey 3 looks sexy, with love from the U.S!
Wish we had some of your sexy U.S tankbusters!
abrams and leo is way sexier IMO... but they don't have tea kettles XD
You can see the ghosts of Comets and Cromwells in the shape of these things.
That's an impressive tank.
Matsimus will be happy...
For what it's worth they may as well have bought Leopard 2A7, and called it "Challenger 3." Almost everything is changed to German, or in some cases French, designed components. Only the hull, suspension and engine can still claim to be British on this vehicle. He will be happy, but all it shows is how obsolete his baby was before this upgrade.
@@AllThingsCubey So like 70% of the tank is British, the remaining 30% was a co-development between British BAE and Rheinmetall, admittedly largely Rheinmetall.
Instead of pride a German company makes good tanks and helped with the upgrade to Chally 3, Germans seem to enjoy belittling countries buying from it. Ironic since their tank development is quite literally reliant on overseas sales and the Germans themselves reliant on American equipment.
@@callumwilliams1449 Erm, no, it's more like 70% non British components and systems at this point.
@@AllThingsCubeyErm, how do you even know when the specific details haven't even been released? Unless you've somehow been briefed as of yet classified/withheld information?
By the way, as you mentioned, the Hull, suspension and engine are British. That's 70% of the tank buddy.
@@callumwilliams1449 I keep myself well informed. A lot of it's not classified, but just internal. You merely need to speak to the right people.
60MPH??? A CHALLENGER??? PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A DREAM
1,600 brake horsepower baby 😁
@@komradearti9935 official specs state 60mph.
@@komradearti9935 "renamed challenger 2" just that alone demonstrates your lack of intelligence and understanding. You don't know it's modifications, so why act like you do? Most definitely is 60 MPH
@@komradearti9935 the challenger 2 LEP was a completely different upgrade program you muppet.
@@komradearti9935 Or more because the whole situation changed and as opposed to an upgrade on the Challenger 2 platform it's a brand new one BASED OFF THE HULL of the challenger 2. You were following a completely different program to what has actually ended up happening. You're embarrassing yourself
Will the hull rebuild be moved from Bovington to Telford so the whole project is carried out by Rhinemetall ?
What we all want to see in a friendly setting is the Challenger 3 VS the German Leopard!
Leopard would win. To this point it's the best tank in Europe.
@@tyrnei6877 how can you say that when it hasn't been battle tested?
@Zorro Laplaya you obviously have no idea what you are talking about, the challenger has been battle tested and not a single tank has been destroyed, best armour in the world, even the USA uses our armour. As for our navy, it's the most advanced in the world. What country are you from?
@Zorro Laplaya unfortunately it seems you are still at the stage of throwing your toys out of the pram and crying for your dummy.
@@ianmckinney3446 He's from Africa, where their tanks are horse and cart with an ak strapped to it.
Sweet, can't wait to see that in war thunder
Same
That with the Ajax
The comment I was waiting for 😂
t14 and t15 (t14 apc) are not in wt and you think this will?
Depends if the game survives for another 20+ years
Challenger 3, is a Challenger 2 with a new turret, gun, and some hull/drivetrain upgrades.
I believe they are remanufacturing Challenger 2s to make it.
Not correct, 148 gun tanks of the in service fleet will be selected and have the original VDS turrets removed, the turret ring bored out and the powerpack and hydrogas swapped out for the newer variants. There is no capability to manufacture challenger hulls (or any other tank hulls) in the uk.
@@HJDore like he said remanufacture challenger 2 that means converting and restoring manufacture means make from new
This is great news on many levels.
Should be a good piece of kit, but I still think we need more than a 148 of them.
Looks to be a decent upgrade which our boys deserve. Nice to see British jobs are safe-guarded too.
Tbh tho, do 650 jobs really matter? Its important to keep some tank production/logistics capabilities, which UK has partially lost (hence the need for Rheinmetall to step in), but the amount of jobs seems pretty low.
Same how Australia bragged that they got 900m of home investment in an >90 billion dollar program.
@Julz De Im sure theres lots of money flowing in the background...
9 years from now, let’s revisit this “new” tank.
What's the point of designing and building a new tank if it wont be ready for a decade???😅
@@officerbucket7986 most modern procurements take that long. Especially when it's a brand new tank
@@shaywoodside581 but by the time its adopted it will likely then be obsolete? So what's the point?
@@somedrytoast2307 not obsolete if the competition updates just as slowly
@@officerbucket7986 I mean the Abrams was designed in the 1970s and rolled out in the early 80s I believe. I'm sure like most things now days is gonna be modular and easily upgradeable if needed. But it will be far from obsolete by 2030. No ones upgrading stuff fast at the moment because they aren't fighting a strong military power. No one's gonna make a multi billion pound development to blow a bigger hole in a mud hut.
I know that the British Army used to like the Challenger 2 for it's ability to use squash head shells because of the rifled barrel.
Wouldn't it be possible to make a squash head shell with offset fins to spin the shell & have the same effect?
That sounds like a good theory, but there's no way they haven't already thought of it so it assuredly isn't up a good enough concept.
Looks lovely.
The Russian's are in complete agreement that the British only need a few tanks.
Russia can be defeated by leaving your drinks cabinet open.
The Russians* (plural, no apostrophe)
Don't have enough man power to man more than a few tanks.
@Gene Hunt maintaining British international position and super power status which I as a patriotic English gentleman think is a good thing.
@@benivinson3693 Britain isn't a superpower anymore mate
I know I might be setting my standard low but seriously 148 is better than none. I've heard real chatter about seriously considering scrapping the tanks completely
you are correct about scrapping our tanks so yeah this is really good news, seems our forces our moving from being a hammer to a scalpel 🔥🧨💣💪
I mean we've probably seen what happened in Armenia And Azerbaijan with the drones just easy picking off tanks so it think it's a good number without spending loads and loads of money
@@JC-cb4xg oh yes I agree drone is the future and the UK is investing in drones as well. But at the same time I think there is a time and place for tanks to be used. Better to have it on hand than not have it when we need it.
I thought they were scrapping the tank as well
Indeed luckily the UK didn't make the mistake of selling all it's tanks and then when the time comes realising you don't have the right gear for the fight. Unlike my country (NL) which sold all of its tanks and then when Crimea got annexed realize the we lost to a lot power for when things truly go south.
I love how they make it sound like military vehicles being on computer networks is new.
That's simply current military technology of data being shared amongst your troops and allies on tbe modern battlefield.
Seems like it would have good export potential
New tank sounds cool.
FINALLLYYYYYYY!!!!!!!! Long have I waited for this day.
Need more then the planned 148 Challenger 3 tanks now.
Courage right there
"They decided to buy British"
Me: Ah yes, the famous British river Rhine
Wtf are you on about?
@@mattvewfindlay2228 manufacturers name is Rheinmetall which is actually a German company
@@user-mh6jl3bv9b it’s actually Rheinmetall-BAE a joint venture. Also the jobs created by this will all be in English factory’s in England as opposed to buying leapords which would have been a fully German venture.
It’s rheinmetall-bae, a joint venture
Think Rhienmetall is helping out with the gun mainly?
Makes sence since it's a 120mm like the current Rhienmetall 120mm smooth bore
Looks like a beauty! I'm sure glad they're not giving up tanks just yet, they only invented them just over 100 years ago!
It seems like a great tank but I would of thought that an active protection system like Trophy would of been a priority.
Might have it when completely finished
Tanks are history - they are super vulnerable on the battle field
They said the same thing in Afghanistan but yet they made a comeback. Legit the Canadian military went into Afghanistan thinking it didn't need tanks and we wound up buying tanks for Afghanistan same with the yanks they originally deployed with just the Bradley and what not but wound up bringing the tanks in. What seems likely on paper is not always the same as actual combat if that was the case like you claim then more of Hitler wunderwaffen projects would have been resounding successes. Cause alot of those wunderwaffen projects on paper where great ideas but on the battlefield most turned out to be terrible. They also said the same things about guns on jets in Vietnam but look we got those outdated guns on jets today.
Glad we're upgrading our tanks. Can't wait for Tempest, that'll be a sight to see.
You will be blind before you ever see that imaginary jet.
That's a fierce looking tank. Good to know British engineering is still alive and well. And it's as incredible as ever.
The Germans are modifying it for you.
@@alandrew4131 cries in L85
@K W I assume you know from history if you are dealing with a ruthless enemy like Russia, although their tanks at Kursk were inferior to the Tiger tank they just smashed into them Germans, what was left eventual withdrew.
@K W tens of thousands of outdated T-72B3s which aren't even provided with sufficient amounts of effective anti tank ammunition and a few T14 Armatas because the can't afford more than that.
An Anglo (British) - German company
Lets hope we get more money and double this tank number at least
Whoop whoop!!, tanks are a British speciality …..Top class military.🇬🇧
I am in love with the classic cold war like aesthetic despite being late tech
There's something aesthetically pleasing about the look of the Challenger. Although the Challenger 1 takes the real trophy for looks. the 2 is a bit boxy (for practical reasons I realise lol)
It looks a bit like the Vickers Mk 7 with the wide gun mantlet.
@@MrEsphoenix Challenger 1 wins all the prizes for the best-looking tank.
But Challenger 2 is near the bottom of my list of best-looking tanks.
I'm no mechanic. But man, all this tech stuff seems like it's gonna be a big pain to get right and functional for the first years of the tank.
That's why it's won't be here till 2027
@@cyanoticspore6785 yeah even then there will probably soon be a upgrade for troops cause of some gripes
Drone fodder.
As relevant as a battleship
@Chop Wood I'd love to see you come up with a simple modern MBT design
@@julianshepherd2038 ah youre one of those people who just found out about drones and thought hey they must be invincible! Well guess what? They aren't. All it takes is a fighter on patrol or even a CIWS if it's low enough and you can destroy one. And it would be stupid to use a drone against a carrier fleet. It would be shot down before it's in range of the carrier.
Would be great if the number weren't being cut .. we need more of these not less
What are it's active / passive defense measures against ATGMs?
For those arguing that 148 is not enough, it's worth considering that because we work through coalitions and alliances it's hard to see where we'd ever need to use these tanks as a singular nation alone against a state actor. For the foreseeable future our geopolitical focus will be on the Indo-Pacific region so the navy/airwing is a priority (as well as cyber capability and espionage etc). Tanks will only ever be needed en masse in eastern Europe (in which we would be working with NATO allies) or God forbid another Middle Eastern foray, but this looks highly unlikely. So with all this in mind 148 of these new Challenger 3's are capable enough at the moment, and it seems like an excellent tank
shame only 148 but still a good job
Those numbers will eventually go down.
@Leslie Dodds a lot lost as well
@Leslie Dodds it's a very different world then from world war 2. The days of hughe armoured combat are done. There is no need anymore when it can be done by air which will intern cost less lives for the said nation
@Leslie Dodds But aren't a lot of Russias tanks still cold war era
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- yeah the vast majority are cold war era, very few are more recent
Jump one year later, about half of their Challenger 2's are not operational due to budget cuts, they cant produce ammo for it due to budget cuts.
The M1A2 SEPv4 has all of those added features to include the digital suit of equipment. The new Abrams will be fielded beginning 2025.
It is absolutely not a generational leap, but only an update.
No (integrated) APS, no automated turret, same chassis, armor unknown but probably nearly the same.
It's surely a good tank. Probably more than enough for most purposes. But it is one generation behind.