Most of the pedals are priced far more than what they should be. Good to see that a manufacturer is putting out a reasonably priced pedal and other manufacturers should get aggressive to put out great lower priced pedals. Why should some pedals cost as much as a bass amp?
Amps are mostly empty space, which makes them fairly simple and cheap to make. Not to mention most expensive pedals are made small batch in America, and any amp made that way will cost much more than 200 dollars due to overseas labor cost.
Well... some brands can make pedals for below a tenner because they own a whole city of factories (Behringer), but most companies order pcb's in huge stacks and solder everything by hand because they haven't been around for 34 years and haven't grown to such a scale. Or because they make a niche product. Economy of scale is a huge factor here. If I want to make a pedal I'm easily paying 20 bucks in parts. Add 20 bucks in labor (that's below minimum wage), double the price for a profit, double the price so a distributor can make a profit, double the price so the store can make a profit and you can see why pedals are expensive. I do agree that a well known circuit from 60 years ago shouldn't have to cost more than 40 bucks to the general consumer from a big company, because companies like Caline and Behringer produce big quantities. But there are plenty pedals around that could never be made for under a 100 bucks. Also... R&D is worth something. You can't expect people to work for free for hundreds of hours and only be 'on the clock' when they are soldering.
I have watched this video a shit ton. I loved the delay so much that I bought one and watched the video at different rates to figure out what notes frank is playing to learn the piece. Can't wait for it to get here and play this same riff.
I bought the pressure point some time ago, it's actually a very useful pedal. Where it comes into it's own is if you have a bass with very high output pickups or if you're running out from the bass into an EQ pedal, it just takes off "the sharp edges" if you see what I mean? Whilst doing this, it also channels the filtered frequencies into a more concentrated punchy sound and can be useful when used with an EQ pedal when recording as you can start to cut and boost certain areas of your tone depending on where you want your sound to be so the end listener can get the best experience with the device they are listening with. I'm using a Rowin mini EQ, again a cheap pedal but one that punches far above it's weight.
I was looking into the Pressure Point, man. I ended up going for the Joyo Dyna Comp, which has become a life or death pedal. It's good to know that the PP is well worth a plunge.
I'm surprised by the price/low noise floor combination with their pedals and power supplies. We should snap this gear up before the cork sniffers discover them..
I own the compressor and had to test it a lot to understand it, even review the waveform on the computer and then I understood what this pedal does, it is a compressor but not a sustainer at all, its JUST a limiter and a great one I would say, we bassists have to deal with volume peaks from filters and synths and this pedal now lives at the end of my chain right before my preamp and keeps all my playing at unity volume. It only works for me at almost full on all knobs but hey I'm not moving them so its fine and as a plus if I switch it off i have a nice boost in volume from my dirt pedals. I use 2 compressors now because the first in line does what a normal comp does but the caline is always on keeping my signal tight.
Hey! I did a teardown o the bass compressor. I agree the naming convention of the controls is confusing. Here is how it works... There are two compressor/limiter stages. Each one has a fixed attack/release setting of 10ms/100ms. Compressor ratios are also fixed. Estimating the 1st stage is 20:1, 2nd stage is about 6:1. ALL THESE ARE SET VALUES AND CANNOT BE ADJUSTED. I confirmed this with the schematics from Caline. - Description of each control: GAIN - Input pre-gain stage VOL - Post Effect Gain Stage (this is basically "make-up gain", but IMO could use more gain) COMP - Overall signal level to the side chain circuit for the two compressor stages ATTACK - Level to 1st compressor/limiter stage, essentially a peak limiter SENSE - Level to 2nd compressor/limiter stage, a familiar bass compressor feel. ***the more CW you turn these knobs, the lower the threshold for the stages to engage compression/limiting.
nice demo - i have this pedal; and am happy -but can i put a compressor before it ? i am going into a 12 track recorder .....so i dont have effects like a DAW .....any idea? (before or after ?)
i decided to get the Overdrive anyway because of the cover art, lol. can indeed agree it's a bit rank. the functionality on it is cool though, I'm sure there's a very simple mod that could make it work.
Good review but a pity you wacked-up the drive on the Wine Cellar instead of easing it up. I'm looking for a warm gentle overdrive that's more than saturation but less than fuzz.
There's really no subtlety with the drive knob, check out Jo Bass, he has a play through with it and his wife I presume does a slow dial of it and it goes from like 60% to 120% in like a millimeter of a turn
@@basstheworldofficial really? But how can I do that (with this pedal) leaving thru the unbalanced output to an ir loader pedal, and then to a DI box for good sound in console?
Wow that sounds real good all the videos. so will my bass sound alright if I use this pedal into my Motu M4 interface if I want to record. ? I can't really afford a good Bass amp
I bought a Wine Cellar more than a year ago. My only complain about it is the useless Drive knob which goes from nothing at all to full on fuzz. Anyways ,I remember my bandmates faces when I switched on for first time in a rehearsal...it was like "Yeaaaah ! That's the tone dude"
@@arnlmndza If you have the chance, check out the Sonicake Boom Bass Ave. It's a compressor, a boost , a fuzz, a preamp, an octaver and a DI all in one. Now it's my main pedal for practice.
Looks like a Yamaha BBG5S. Have one on my guitar wall. Haven't played it in favour of my Warwick Corvette for a long time. I'm considering going back to it though. In hindsight I think I find the Warwick neck hard work.
Caline Much ? I just counted 'em up, I have 7 of their pedals and 3 of their semi-isolated PSUs. Oh and a Quad Damage made for Circle of Tone by Caline ... That Bass Pre looks interesting.
The wine cellar seems to be a very usefull DI for a simple and solid budget solution. Can't wait to see the review on this channel about the Darkglass Adam - the holy grail Pedal?!?!
Frohe weihnachten Gregor! But all their bass drives sound like farts to me, none of the drive knobs are subtle or as he put it no earlier gain, and I've seen Jo Bass's reviews on both the wine cellar and press pass (their other D.I.) and I think btw had better sound quality, so I could hear the preamp better in this, either way that delay was slick and all the settings, may have to get one to experiment with! But the other overdrive should probably only be a boost to give you some more tone, not really suitable for high gain drive, and may get the pressure point at some point, not many reviews on that pedal unfortunately. Also I heard of these pedals though wish haha
are you talking about the behringer bd21 ? ive heard all the horror stories with behringer and their build quality and their products not lasting very long. how is the build quality of the wine cellar ?
honestly that rumor is exaggerated. I've had behringer products last me years and their products have been above quality for the most part. but yeah the wine cellar build is pretty sturdy. i think its made of aluminum @@eneribackwards
I got me one of these thinking the XLR output could be used as DI with phantom power but it doesn't work with phantom power at all. It only sends out the same level as the jack output when plugged to a 9v power source. What's the deal with that?
![Get The Grit, Power and Tone Of A Sansamp for $30?! - Behringer BDI-21 [Demo]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BVEbM1-Pq8w/mqdefault.jpg)
This is my favorite channel for hardware reviews. I like the demos that shows how the sound changes when a control button or knob is activated.
Most of the pedals are priced far more than what they should be. Good to see that a manufacturer is putting out a reasonably priced pedal and other manufacturers should get aggressive to put out great lower priced pedals. Why should some pedals cost as much as a bass amp?
Amps are mostly empty space, which makes them fairly simple and cheap to make.
Not to mention most expensive pedals are made small batch in America, and any amp made that way will cost much more than 200 dollars due to overseas labor cost.
Well... some brands can make pedals for below a tenner because they own a whole city of factories (Behringer), but most companies order pcb's in huge stacks and solder everything by hand because they haven't been around for 34 years and haven't grown to such a scale. Or because they make a niche product. Economy of scale is a huge factor here. If I want to make a pedal I'm easily paying 20 bucks in parts. Add 20 bucks in labor (that's below minimum wage), double the price for a profit, double the price so a distributor can make a profit, double the price so the store can make a profit and you can see why pedals are expensive.
I do agree that a well known circuit from 60 years ago shouldn't have to cost more than 40 bucks to the general consumer from a big company, because companies like Caline and Behringer produce big quantities. But there are plenty pedals around that could never be made for under a 100 bucks. Also... R&D is worth something. You can't expect people to work for free for hundreds of hours and only be 'on the clock' when they are soldering.
I have watched this video a shit ton. I loved the delay so much that I bought one and watched the video at different rates to figure out what notes frank is playing to learn the piece. Can't wait for it to get here and play this same riff.
Merry Christmas Gregor and everyone at BassTheWorld!!! You are all AWESOME!!! 🎄🎄🎄
I bought the pressure point some time ago, it's actually a very useful pedal. Where it comes into it's own is if you have a bass with very high output pickups or if you're running out from the bass into an EQ pedal, it just takes off "the sharp edges" if you see what I mean?
Whilst doing this, it also channels the filtered frequencies into a more concentrated punchy sound and can be useful when used with an EQ pedal when recording as you can start to cut and boost certain areas of your tone depending on where you want your sound to be so the end listener can get the best experience with the device they are listening with.
I'm using a Rowin mini EQ, again a cheap pedal but one that punches far above it's weight.
I was looking into the Pressure Point, man. I ended up going for the Joyo Dyna Comp, which has become a life or death pedal. It's good to know that the PP is well worth a plunge.
I thought I'd never heard of them, then realized I use one of their power supplies for my pedalboard. Good unit, it's doing its job just fine
I'm surprised by the price/low noise floor combination with their pedals and power supplies. We should snap this gear up before the cork sniffers discover them..
I got that exact same bass. Yamaha bbg5. A damn fine instrument.
I own the compressor and had to test it a lot to understand it, even review the waveform on the computer and then I understood what this pedal does, it is a compressor but not a sustainer at all, its JUST a limiter and a great one I would say, we bassists have to deal with volume peaks from filters and synths and this pedal now lives at the end of my chain right before my preamp and keeps all my playing at unity volume. It only works for me at almost full on all knobs but hey I'm not moving them so its fine and as a plus if I switch it off i have a nice boost in volume from my dirt pedals.
I use 2 compressors now because the first in line does what a normal comp does but the caline is always on keeping my signal tight.
I would like to have that old Fender Bass amp in the background. I used them in the 60's and 70's...
But you can check gregor reverb store
I have one :)
Frank is quite a great player !!!!!!!
Hey! I did a teardown o the bass compressor. I agree the naming convention of the controls is confusing. Here is how it works...
There are two compressor/limiter stages. Each one has a fixed attack/release setting of 10ms/100ms. Compressor ratios are also fixed. Estimating the 1st stage is 20:1, 2nd stage is about 6:1. ALL THESE ARE SET VALUES AND CANNOT BE ADJUSTED. I confirmed this with the schematics from Caline.
- Description of each control:
GAIN - Input pre-gain stage
VOL - Post Effect Gain Stage (this is basically "make-up gain", but IMO could use more gain)
COMP - Overall signal level to the side chain circuit for the two compressor stages
ATTACK - Level to 1st compressor/limiter stage, essentially a peak limiter
SENSE - Level to 2nd compressor/limiter stage, a familiar bass compressor feel.
***the more CW you turn these knobs, the lower the threshold for the stages to engage compression/limiting.
Frank is amazing and an inspiration!
That dude grooves and is so tight like none other.
I agree! Frank has pocket like ya' read about...
When I grow up, I wanna play bass like Frank Itt
He’s awesome, isn’t he?
Why not play like yourself...with some committed practice?
Me too
Have a cabinet simulator in the XLR output from wine cellar?
Nope
Could Sense on the compressor be Threshold?
it is
The delay reverse effect playing reminded me of Damage Inc. Not gonna lie I’m interested in that delay pedal
Not bad! BTW, nice reference to Dark at the end of the video. Reasonable use of the reverse delay :) Merry xmas / frohe Weihnachten!
I've wanted to buy a Wine Cellar pedal some months ago, but I wasn't able to get one in Germany. I hope, they are available now.
nice demo - i have this pedal; and am happy -but can i put a compressor before it ?
i am going into a 12 track recorder .....so i dont have effects like a DAW .....any idea? (before or after ?)
The intro track sound Beast !!
i decided to get the Overdrive anyway because of the cover art, lol. can indeed agree it's a bit rank. the functionality on it is cool though, I'm sure there's a very simple mod that could make it work.
Good review but a pity you wacked-up the drive on the Wine Cellar instead of easing it up. I'm looking for a warm gentle overdrive that's more than saturation but less than fuzz.
Get a Zoom MS 60-B they're great for this and so much more
@@martinheath5947 thanks! I'll check it out.
There's really no subtlety with the drive knob, check out Jo Bass, he has a play through with it and his wife I presume does a slow dial of it and it goes from like 60% to 120% in like a millimeter of a turn
The drive control only seems to add "drive" to the signal between 3 o'clock & 6 o'clock, or the one that I have does.
Die Pedale scheint es in Deutschland nicht zu kaufen zu geben? Ich habe sie auch bei session nicht gefunden.
Gibts bei Amazon
Great Video. Where would i put the settings to emulate Geddy.Lee tone ?
Do you need a cab sim or similar to use (the yellow one ) direct to console?
Not at all. Only if you want an amp sound.
@@basstheworldofficial really? But how can I do that (with this pedal) leaving thru the unbalanced output to an ir loader pedal, and then to a DI box for good sound in console?
Good afternoon! What kind of amazing music do you play? What is it called? 2:01
Wow that sounds real good all the videos. so will my bass sound alright if I use this pedal into my Motu M4 interface if I want to record. ? I can't really afford a good Bass amp
I’d say: yes - I think this preamp sounds really nice
So does the preamp direct inbox simulate an amplifier?
what is the frequency of the low?
That OD has a sweet tone
Thanks for the Video. Does the XLR out "Dry" or does it pick up the color of the pedal? Please let me know. Thanks.
It’s the wet sound
Where can I get one of these?? Di for Bass? Thanks
Love that old Fender Bassman amp
Friend, is there a big difference between this and a Joyo model, or is it just the DI?
That bass sounds fantastic...what is it and what are the pick ups? Tx very much
It is a Yamaha BBG5A. I have one, and I can tell you, you can do everything with it, especially if you like doing slap technique.
Gregor I tried to contact the company to purchase a wine cellar pedal no answer so where can i buy one. Please let me know please. Thanks. Joe
Azor store has some on AliExpress, I bought mine from them.
nl.aliexpress.com/item/32969295963.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3da24c4dh0SJ5X
Amazon!
Wir brauchen UNBEDINGT mehr vom Altmaier des Basses, König der Läßigkeit und Besitzer all der Taschen: Frank Itt.
Great review! Thank you!
I bought a Wine Cellar more than a year ago. My only complain about it is the useless Drive knob which goes from nothing at all to full on fuzz. Anyways ,I remember my bandmates faces when I switched on for first time in a rehearsal...it was like "Yeaaaah ! That's the tone dude"
My experience of mine too! Not much in the way of various drive sounds, almost on or off.
Do you think it would do well with a dedicated distortion or overdrive pedal, even a cheap one - i mean, to take over the lack of drive?
@@arnlmndza Of course it does. I used to put a boss ODB3 in front of it and the results were massive
@@esposoman Thanks. I'm thinking of getting a cheap OD pedal for home recording. Thank you.
@@arnlmndza If you have the chance, check out the Sonicake Boom Bass Ave. It's a compressor, a boost , a fuzz, a preamp, an octaver and a DI all in one. Now it's my main pedal for practice.
You should try the wine cellar and the delay. I bet that would sound awesome
The Wine Cellar is another clone of Tech21 BDDI :)
I have the Dr. J Sparrow, very fond of it.
Might get this one too for backup.
Wine Cellar vs Tech21 Bass driver? Seriously? Wine Cellar can't make sounds how at BD. Analog of Tech 21 BD is Hotone bass d.i.
Hi! I'm curious, is this an active bass guitar?
Yes
Sounds amazing....
But, what kind of bass is that, please?
Looks like a Yamaha BBG5S. Have one on my guitar wall. Haven't played it in favour of my Warwick Corvette for a long time. I'm considering going back to it though. In hindsight I think I find the Warwick neck hard work.
It is a Yamaha BBG5A. I ow one of this, and it is an amazing bass.
Wine Cellar is a pretty good copy of the o.g. Tech 21 Sansamp
Where do you buy them from ? I looked on their web site there's no price or cart for checkout 🙄
probably amazon
@@seancca I had a look on the Google shopping didn't come up with anything
@@scorpioscots9692 www.amazon.com/Caline-CP-60-Cellar-Effects-Classic/dp/B07LGXG689
@@seancca Ahhh kool cheers Bro 👌👍
I bought a power supply unit of theirs from Amazon, was here the next day. Been using it daily for about 5 months with no issues.
Caline Much ?
I just counted 'em up, I have 7 of their pedals and 3 of their semi-isolated PSUs.
Oh and a Quad Damage made for Circle of Tone by Caline ...
That Bass Pre looks interesting.
Yay Frank and the Bbg5s!
What does a "reverse delay" do?
The delayed sound is played backwards
Thank you.
That overdrive is kinda nice..
is the bass being recorded DI or amp? thanks.
DI
...coole Pedale, meine Favs sind der Weinkeller und das Delay...und der Yamaha klingt so dermaßen geil mit den Basstec Pickups! ❤️👍
Nice. For the price they would be very fun to jam with and play with. I like the yellow one the best!
Thanks! I just picked one up on eBay for usd $36!
Which one did you pick up?
I like the delay
Caline CP-60 Wine Cellar just awesome pedal. I buy this pedal now.
It doesn't do anything.
The wine cellar seems to be a very usefull DI for a simple and solid budget solution.
Can't wait to see the review on this channel about the Darkglass Adam - the holy grail Pedal?!?!
It's a really decent nod to the Sansamp. Approach it like it's a BDDI and it's freaking AWESOME for what it is.
Now the preamp is going for over $50 on Amazon.
Jeff bezos would like to know your L O C A T I O N 📍
what pickups he has in Yamaha BB
BassCulture pickups from Germany
The bass cultures are great. The Pup size is a bit odd and not much fits it well. I've got the exact same bass just different Pups!
@@lauriehwrdlh Different what? Oh, pickups! Was confused for a bit, because 'Pups' is a German word for 'fart' :o]
...These must be basstec Pickups, made by Harry Häussel. Please correct me Gregor if I am wrong ;)
Frohe weihnachten Gregor! But all their bass drives sound like farts to me, none of the drive knobs are subtle or as he put it no earlier gain, and I've seen Jo Bass's reviews on both the wine cellar and press pass (their other D.I.) and I think btw had better sound quality, so I could hear the preamp better in this, either way that delay was slick and all the settings, may have to get one to experiment with! But the other overdrive should probably only be a boost to give you some more tone, not really suitable for high gain drive, and may get the pressure point at some point, not many reviews on that pedal unfortunately. Also I heard of these pedals though wish haha
Own it and its super quality for the price. If you like budget sans amp clones,this blows the behringer bass v tone out the water
are you talking about the behringer bd21 ? ive heard all the horror stories with behringer and their build quality and their products not lasting very long. how is the build quality of the wine cellar ?
honestly that rumor is exaggerated. I've had behringer products last me years and their products have been above quality for the most part. but yeah the wine cellar build is pretty sturdy. i think its made of aluminum
@@eneribackwards
I got me one of these thinking the XLR output could be used as DI with phantom power but it doesn't work with phantom power at all. It only sends out the same level as the jack output when plugged to a 9v power source. What's the deal with that?
Great sound
Love the TARDIS shirt!
I imagine the player's in demos.
In they're heads are like stop messing with my settings!
that drive sounds awesome to me
Where can I get the yellow pedal??
on Amazon
Frank shreds.
Their OCD clone is great (on bass and just in general). I can't remember what it's called, but great pedal for the money.
Ultimate Drive
Caline CP-12 Pure sky Overdrive
muy buen video saludos desde tijuana
Gregor... Have yourself a very schönes Weihnachtsfest usw. and please grüß´ the others ;-)
the good the bad and the boutique😂
Thats called a steal
i love your t shirt
Mmm cheap in price and in tone for me, but in the end it’s all personal.
no you made it personal
very good
COOL !!!
PLAY BASS NEXT VIDEO
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It's garbage, don't buy this pedal. Couldn't hear difference.
This pedal is great!
I so miss your first videos when you did not try sooo hard to be funny.. and gayish by the way.
what is the frequency of the low?