Finally a review for this little beast. It was recently released in the Philippines and sold out quickly. Just goes to show the power of the Dualtron and Minimotors name and quality.
Another awesome review....love the technical knowledge you share...how you figured out the controller amps ...very cool :) Cheers from Canada :) p.s. I think the hook on the stem is for shopping bags? or beer opener lol :)
Well that was a really really really really great review. Very thorough. I don't think you missed a single (important) detail. Liked and subscribed. Hoping you've reviewed the VSETT8. Cheers.
@Street Phone, thank you for the kind words! I am doing my final edits to the Vsett 8 review right now, I should have it uploaded early next week. Cheers
one thing i wish more reviewers would do is to fold it down and put it into a car boot or back seat to give potential buyers and idea of the size and how transportable it is
Great review! Appreciate the info. That ABS sounded and probably acts like the LOCK feature on my Ninebot Max! The braking on the motor will pulse once it locks up while on the brake. (G30P) I like what I see and want to get this Mini.
The Mini is pretty slick, the ABS just pulses all the time on the Ey3 setups. I've never been a fan of the way it feels, luckily it is easy enough to turn off.
Thank you very much for doing this review. There are barely any videos on this online so it was great help. If you can do another video just talking about anything else you didn't add or something you might like to add that would be great. I'm looking to use one to commute each day to work, do you think this could manage some light drizzly rain every now and again? I live in London ;)
Still waiting for my Dualtron Mini to be delivered but not many reviews like yours so I was happy to see the range of the scooter for the money I spent on it. I will be doing my own review of sorts once I have it for the UK. I just love the solid robust look and feel it gives rather than the sleek look on my Xiaomi M365, that said I still love my Xiaomi to get to work. I will use the Dualtron for long rides when I go metal detecting and other adventures so looking forward to getting it soon, well next month lol
@@MrFooChops I had mine delivered today - one working day as promised, bought on the dualtron-uk.com. 17.5 A version with 2900W max motor ( according to manual specification ) I have also found out gradability is around 37% ( 20 degrees ) which is really steep ...and more then official info on the website ( print error in the manual ? ) I do not know who to believe really, so I trust my own experience - I had 30% battery , 48V on the display and climb 12degrees road 20 km/h on the second mode without problem ( my weight little bit less then 80 kg ) This is my first electric scooter and I found its fascinating and quite scary ( acceleration for example ). This is not a toy...
The rattling handle for the retractable handle bars. What the reviewer has missed is that the release pin goes back into a hole and that stops it rattling. However, I had to use a hammer on mine to push the handle far enough forward for it to engage. But when you manage it it is totally effective.
@Justin Anon, I had the pin you reference seated, however it doesn't hold the lever tight enough to not rattle some. I first tried a small piece of tape over the hole to make the pin fit in there tighter. Mine had a threaded hole on the opposite side which is why I added the additional bolt.
As with most scooters a decent ip rating better than ip54, decent indicators, high mounted front lighting and a thumb throttle option are what’s missing from this. I also think the mini seriously needs folding handlebars especially with mini in the name! The other dualtrons are huge and very fast so I get no folding ones with those. So good scooter but improvements can be made. I’ve seen it for the same price as a vsett 8 aswell recently which helps its appeal.
Awesome review I’m starting to look at Dualtrons I never had one, very high-quality scooter thinking about this one or the city but the city is way expensive😳😳😳
I think the City looks great with the bigger tires but holy buckets it is expensive! You do notice the quality different throughout the Dualtrons lineup. I do think other companies are starting to catch up.
The thought of never changing brake pads or adjusting brake calipers again is lovely to Dream On I didn't realize it had drum brakes I might be sold on this
To be fair, the stats you display on the Zero 9 are based off the March 2019 model. There's been numerous improvements to it since, including an upgrade from 500 watt to 600 watt motor
@Peter L, this is true. I'll start putting the year or wattage by the numbers. That 500 to 600 watt change shouldn't effect performance as the battery and controller were unchanged but the 52v version would definitely perform better.
I very much enjoyed this informative video..But it would be nice to see how the scooter handles in more varied conditions..like over a pot hole..up a curb..shredding a corner at speed..too many videos do the same thing on scooter tests..going in a straight line on smooth roads...and what do we learn about the scooter?....not eough
Nice review man ! I just received mine and only drove 1 mile with it because it arrived pretty late in the evening (today). So I’m going to ride it Tommorow. I did notice the light of the eye display was going out while driving. Is that normal?
@@ElectronSurfer your review convinced me to buy.I live in the only part of Australia that has unrestricted wattage but limited to 15mph here in Australia so i am looking forward to it arriving
It was a choice between this and the kaabo mantis 8 eco ..they both have pretty much the same kind of specs and the kaabo is on sale at the moment so I went with that... waiting for delivery next week
Catching up on videos :) Mind if I ask how you get the data showing up on the video..is it a function of the camera or a separate app? Will sit and relax and watch this now :) Cheers Tim
It's a Sony App that works with my GPS camera, I sometimes use dashware also. The Sony app doesn't stitch videos together very well and takes hours and hours to process. Thanks for the comment.
I'm considering this scooter as my entry into Dualtron. Does this scooter have the same aggressive torque as the Emove Cruiser? I adjusted my Cruiser to the softer start, but it still pulls a little too much. Also, you said the tires are 8.5". The website has them at 9". Was there an upgrade? Thanks
I just bought one it’s awesome for its size, 34 mph , good uphills long range comfy , the only thing I don’t like is the small deck , but it’s solid and great over uneven roads and bumps 👍🏽👍🏽 it’s Definitely worth £1180 Easily, go buy one you will love it
@@Tenflamesmusic So I was gonna get the dual tron many how many flat tires have you really had is it the front or rear have you tried slime before I spent $1500 on some small crazy single motor scooter please help me out thank you and I don't really believe it's 30 miles an hour I'm hearing 2627 on a real GPS
i get 30 to 35 mph out of my DualtronMini, at first i thought the speedo was off but when i tested it on a GPS speedo it was only off by 1mph, maybe its to do with rider size , wind resistance/weather and road condition
That's pretty great. I did get a pretty early model Mini so there is always a chance something was different. I was surprised I didn't get that close to 30. Thanks for commenting!
Thank you my friend for the clear honest insight into the Dualtron mini and thanks for showing me how to maintain this scooter and change the tire I am looking to buy this scooter and you told me everything I need so cheers keep safe my friend ☺️
Quick question sir because I just want to justify my purchase. I was on the market of medium high end scooters. My choices where the Emove Cruiser, Apollo Explore, Speedway Leger and the Dualtron Mini. Today I ended up buying the Dualtron Mini. In your opinion what do you prefer? Thanks in advance, awesome video. 👍🏼
@Mark Mante, I think the Mini is the most flexible of those options. The Cruiser has a larger deck, the Apollo Explore is basically a Zero 9, so in my mind it isn't that comparable. The Leger is basically a nicer version of the Explore or Zero 9 with a bit more battery. The Mini will get you more flexibility when the others, though good, are really just geared to paved road riding. Let me know how the Mini treats you!
Electron Surfer thanks for replying ES, I just received mine yesterday and used it asap out the box. I was so amaze of how good is the scooter. The built quality is amazing. Went to the park with my son using his ninebot max, it was very smooth. The scooter is pretty fast but is well balanced. Thanks again for the review, really help me decide to pick this scooter.
@@mmante78 hi there, do you know how much this weighs? And is it light enough to carry up a regular flight of stairs, at home? It’s around 12 steps? Or is it too heavy? Also, have you been on bumpy roads? If so does the suspension help smooth out the ride? All I care about is, 1 light enough to carry up stairs 2 has to be smooth on bumpy ground. How smooth? Well smooth enough to have a pleasant ride. I’ve almost came off my cheap scooter due to bumpy roads and potholes. Also 8.5 inch tyres seems bit small. Would love ya feedback Cheers
I've read that flat tires are a problem with this model. What is your experience? I'm considering buying one very soon. Otherwise i might go with the raptor.
I believe most inner tube tires are the same. It's the luck of the draw whether you get a flat. My buddy and I own the Explore and he has had 2 flats within a couple of months. I have not. However,it has given me other issues, which will require me to take it in for repair, and I have only own it 3 months. Therefore I'm reconsidering my purchase and the reason I'm looking at Dualtron.
So does the mini motors finger trigger sit up higher than the typical throttle finger trigger you find on the zero scooters? You have to stretch farther to reach the finger trigger on the mini motors display?
Hey bro, did you buy this scooter? If so, how does it feel accelerating with finger???? I’ve only used 1 e scooter and it had the standard comfortable button that you press down with thumb to accelerate and it felt great. So I’m disappointed to see that this e scooter has the finger trigger. Is is uncomfortable reaching ????? 1 more thing, is it relatively smooth to ride on everyday types of pavement???
@@JerseyStyle7 100% on the tires, even with split rims it isn't fun. I have seen a lot of really sweet aftermarket light add-ons. When I was a Dualtron dealer some people didn't like that the lights shine through the words and wanted one big light!
@@ElectronSurfer What aftermarket lights have you seen do you mean LED strip stick on‘s ? I like the Pegasus but I do not like the color scheme, you gotta check out the new fat tire trike I just bought it’s fully electric goes about 32 mph on my channel
It's fine you just need to losten the allen bolts and move it down so lever is lv with your wrist he got it at a bit of a awkward angle. It has cruise control aswell.
I heard that there was a run of them that had either a bad tire or a rim that affected how the tire was running. It allowed part of the sidewall to be more susceptible to flats. If it is an issue Dualtron can probably make it right for you, one way or another.
Yes, the 8" rear scooters tend to really fly up hills. You wouldn't expect a 1" tire difference to affect much but it does on acceleration and hill climbing on single motor scooters. DT Mini = 20.3 sec Emove Touring = 17.4 sec
Do you mean amp hours? If so you would still get decent range and save weight so it's a give and take on what you are after. Thanks for watching from France!
I’m 205 5’8 in height will you say cause you mentioned this can handle a heavier rider would you recommend this for someone my weight my issue is my living status I live up stairs and at 48 pounds seems heavy but nothing compare to those 70 and higher pound scooters ?
It should work well for you the big bonus with this one is the suspension. If you don't need as much suspension the Speedway Leger Pro or Emove Cruisers are good options for heavier riders also.
Nice but for $1,499 it seems expensive for a single motor scooter ! Heck my Turbowheel Lightning is dual motor and I’m getting between 25-30 miles range and it cost me $1,699. It’s a rebranded Zero 10X and the suspension is amazing plus the deck is huge.
You have a point, I will say after having a Zero (not 10x) and seeing some stem failures, the jump in build quality is worth it to some folks. I plan to review a 10x as soon as they are available.
Well like you say your deck is huge and the 10x weights 36KG while the mini weights 20KG. If you want to go on a train take in out car or nip to shops and carry it around the mini is the way to go. I have G-Booster aswell which is great fun and very similar to the 10x but it's not very practical because it's such a lump.
@Robert M, for me its been the fastest that I have tested. I use GPS speed so many displays will show faster, this one said 29 when I was almost at 27. It feels like it keeps pulling even though the motor torque isn't the best for climbing hills. Thanks for watching!
The braking system is focused on the back wheel right?how does that perform on wet road conditions,in a case of emergency??(currently having a m365 and will do an upgrade thinking of dualtron mini and zero9,and im having a problem because the mini's braking system seems unreliable)
@Panos Pallas, I have not had the Mini on wet roads as of yet. I would expect it work well since it has strong electronic braking and the drum is somewhat sealed from the elements. I think most scooters are very compromised in wet conditions. It can be really easy to lock up the small diameter scooter wheels in wet conditions.
@@ElectronSurfer thanks for your answer u trully help,its just i was thinking it may slip in wet conditions cause it has not a braking system on front and cause it to to a skid,again thanks for the help!!!
I did a hill climb at 13:54, it does ok but you are best keeping some momentum into hills as the Minimotors motor's tend to be sort of high geared, so they aren't excellent climbers.
Hey, how smooth is the ride? And how does the acceleration trigger feel?? I’m bummed that it isn’t the normal button that you push down with thumb. God knows why they went with this trigger.
@Jamie Hickman, it was actually locked in. I somehow got a Mini that had a few oddities in the locking mechanism area. The threaded hole opposite the pin is no longer there, also the base of the pin on this scooter was longer than the newer ones making it look like it isn't snapped into the groove. I have seen a few mini's since that don't have this vibration or noise from the pin. Thanks!
Hi Jim, I have a Zero 9 and I am disappointed about the suspension. I am considering buying a Dualtron Mini. I don’t have money for more. Do you think the Mini has a better suspension than the Zero 9? I read that the Mini has rubber in the suspension. I think Zero 9 no. Thank you very much!
I have noticed that the Zero 9's suspension can bottom out for some riders. The Mini has much firmer suspension and more travel. I am honestly not sure if there is an elastomer in there with the spring. Personally I feel the Mini's suspension is much better than the Zero 9's. Is it only the suspension that turns you off about the Zero 9? There are some other options, like the Speedway Leger that could work for you too, they are coming out with a 52v version of the Leger. Thanks
@JRY, this is exactly why I leave in the actual riding audio so people can pick out details since there is no way I could talk about each one and not have a 40 min video. That being said while you are riding you tend to hear more of the road noise than the squeaks.
You are a little above its rated maximum, I'm sure you know that. I don't think the scooter would have any issues, maybe slower acceleration and range, but you'll see that with moat scooters. It may be worth asking if it would affect your warranty.
@@conorhulgraine I will be posting a Speedway 5 video next week, it's a rush for sure. Handling is much different than the Mini but the torque is awesome.
@@ElectronSurfer ye I think the speedway 5 would be better for me as im heavier! iv also heard the wheels are a little smaller which means much more torch for hills! I saw the mini struggle a bit on a hil with a guy that was like 80kg so im worried I live in London so there are some hills and I usually have a bag on my back which can weigh 10 kgs at times for work! but ye the speedway 5 is just a handsome scooter and looks a little more classy!
@@ElectronSurfer So I bought the mini with the 17.5 amp battery I have to say im very impressed with the performance of this scooter it is easily able to pull my 105kgs up and down hills and has excellent cruising capabilities as well. the only issue iv had with the scooter so far is the little remote that they give for the light customisation which is quite moody and doesesnt want to work sometimes but awesome scooter all in all!
I know you didn’t say, man. I find it interesting that electric scooter guide got theirs up to nearly 31 mph. I’m 155 lbs.. I might get it to 30mph. Do you feel the scooter is worth $1,499? Thanks for replying so quickly!
@@chasem8491 I can only report my speed and I would be very surprised if someone got the Mini up over 30mph. I think at $1,499 it is starting to be tough with the 52v Leger Pro, Futecher Gun Pro, and the newer Emove Cruiser. The thing the Mini has over all of these is better suspension but if you are routinely riding over 25 mph I'd think seriously about having a front brake. I'm going to a deeper dive on my data between the scooter I mentioned above very soon. I hope this helps!
@@ElectronSurfer I appreciate your feedback! I value your channel..I've watched your review of the EcoReco S5..but I'm trying to sell it with no luck..I have an L5 + (have you thought of reviewing it?) EcoReco has been alright. Their L5 + is a good scooter. I've gone 24 mph and roughly 22 miles on one charge. Not bad for $850. After I saw this review for the Dualtron, I might sell the L5 soon.
@@chasem8491 I had some issues with EcoReco and would gladly review one if they sent one my way. After reviewing other scooters, I'll be honest I've never even thought of buying another EcoReco. My advice is if you really want some speed look at the lighter dual motor options, the Vsett 9+, Dualtron Spider, Dualtron Victor. You can get some insane performance for just a few $ more.
This road is by no means 14 degrees, 14% can and this particular skate with difficulty rises 14 degrees and not with 9 mph something you have not measured correctly
@panos tzavalas, you are right, I made the mistake again of saying, and even correcting, the 14%. I measured this slope at between 7 and 9 degrees with an incinometer...Correction noted. Thank You!
You rode the e scooter to 50% battery and then doubled the mileage to get the total range, because many scooters give false battery readings. Would have rathered you ran it until is died.
@Healiing Cove, I would never ride to 50% and then double the miles, I also don't ride to empty because that is not good for long term battery health. I rode 24.7 miles in mode 2 to under 10% battery and ~18 miles in mode 3 to about 55%. I don't use the battery indicator (they are very inaccurate) I use voltage with displays that have it, the Ey3 does, as that is much more accurate. I hope that helps!
@@ElectronSurfer Thanks for the clarification. I am looking to get 30 miles and am a first time purchaser. I like the Mini and Inmotion L9 for range, the Mini is cooler, faster but 1.8 times the price of the L9. It appears they are very close in range.
@@JohnjOcampo Yes I almost always just use the default charger, if you have the time the slowest charging is best. Now when companies start to give us adjustable output chargers, like you can buy for a few hundred USD, we will be stylin'. Cheers!
I took it down to under 10% battery in my second range test in mode 3 since I think more people would ride this scooter in that mode. My testing has shown a good representation using the efficiency in other speed modes if I ride close to 20 miles. I'll have more range data up on website soon. Thanks
In my testing it was slower than the other dualtron/minimotors 52v single motor scooters but, still faster than any 48v single motor scooter I've tested. So if you want faster than this one I'd suggest dual motors! Cheers
Sorry to hear that, I tend to believe flats are more of a product of where you ride. I knew a guy who kept getting flats because they were doing some construction in his neighborhood, nails and staples all the time. That being said the shape of some of the Dualtron and Minimotors tires, kind of a low profile, stretched tire, is probably the worst idea from a flat perspective. I appreciate you chiming in!
I need your help please get back to me I really wanted to buy this dual tron many but I'm hearing about flat tires also how many have you had on rear or front please tell me what's going on thank you
@@jasontomica8938 My understanding is Minimotors USA has upgraded the tires used on the Mini. Talking to Minimotors, they told me that the flat tire issues has been a lot less pronouced since. I don't still ride the Mini so I can't share my personal experience. Thanks
you gotta put your eye display way down.. should have your finger angled down for best control and if you have it up like that after like 20km you wont feel your finger anymore haha
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Finally a review for this little beast. It was recently released in the Philippines and sold out quickly. Just goes to show the power of the Dualtron and Minimotors name and quality.
Hi lodi, Anong suggest mo na problem ng dualtron mini?
Another awesome review....love the technical knowledge you share...how you figured out the controller amps ...very cool :) Cheers from Canada :) p.s. I think the hook on the stem is for shopping bags? or beer opener lol :)
Well that was a really really really really great review. Very thorough. I don't think you missed a single (important) detail. Liked and subscribed. Hoping you've reviewed the VSETT8. Cheers.
@Street Phone, thank you for the kind words! I am doing my final edits to the Vsett 8 review right now, I should have it uploaded early next week. Cheers
great video! Really helped me make the decision to whether buy this scooter or not
one thing i wish more reviewers would do is to fold it down and put it into a car boot or back seat to give potential buyers and idea of the size and how transportable it is
Great idea, I'll try that. The only issue is my boot is a bit narrow but I can see how it could be helpful.
Great review! Appreciate the info.
That ABS sounded and probably acts like the LOCK feature on my Ninebot Max!
The braking on the motor will pulse once it locks up while on the brake. (G30P)
I like what I see and want to get this Mini.
The Mini is pretty slick, the ABS just pulses all the time on the Ey3 setups. I've never been a fan of the way it feels, luckily it is easy enough to turn off.
Thank you very much for doing this review. There are barely any videos on this online so it was great help. If you can do another video just talking about anything else you didn't add or something you might like to add that would be great. I'm looking to use one to commute each day to work, do you think this could manage some light drizzly rain every now and again? I live in London ;)
Still waiting for my Dualtron Mini to be delivered but not many reviews like yours so I was happy to see the range of the scooter for the money I spent on it. I will be doing my own review of sorts once I have it for the UK. I just love the solid robust look and feel it gives rather than the sleek look on my Xiaomi M365, that said I still love my Xiaomi to get to work. I will use the Dualtron for long rides when I go metal detecting and other adventures so looking forward to getting it soon, well next month lol
Why is it taking so long to deliver? It says next working day for UK?
@@MrFooChops I had mine delivered today - one working day as promised, bought on the dualtron-uk.com. 17.5 A version with 2900W max motor ( according to manual specification ) I have also found out gradability is around 37% ( 20 degrees ) which is really steep ...and more then official info on the website ( print error in the manual ? ) I do not know who to believe really, so I trust my own experience - I had 30% battery , 48V on the display and climb 12degrees road 20 km/h on the second mode without problem ( my weight little bit less then 80 kg ) This is my first electric scooter and I found its fascinating and quite scary ( acceleration for example ). This is not a toy...
The rattling handle for the retractable handle bars. What the reviewer has missed is that the release pin goes back into a hole and that stops it rattling. However, I had to use a hammer on mine to push the handle far enough forward for it to engage. But when you manage it it is totally effective.
@Justin Anon, I had the pin you reference seated, however it doesn't hold the lever tight enough to not rattle some. I first tried a small piece of tape over the hole to make the pin fit in there tighter. Mine had a threaded hole on the opposite side which is why I added the additional bolt.
As with most scooters a decent ip rating better than ip54, decent indicators, high mounted front lighting and a thumb throttle option are what’s missing from this. I also think the mini seriously needs folding handlebars especially with mini in the name! The other dualtrons are huge and very fast so I get no folding ones with those. So good scooter but improvements can be made. I’ve seen it for the same price as a vsett 8 aswell recently which helps its appeal.
Awesome review I’m starting to look at Dualtrons I never had one, very high-quality scooter thinking about this one or the city but the city is way expensive😳😳😳
I think the City looks great with the bigger tires but holy buckets it is expensive! You do notice the quality different throughout the Dualtrons lineup. I do think other companies are starting to catch up.
Gracias por el video, saludos desde Chile
The thought of never changing brake pads or adjusting brake calipers again is lovely to Dream On I didn't realize it had drum brakes I might be sold on this
I'd rather replace the pads than the brake shoes.
Drum brakes are terrible
To be fair, the stats you display on the Zero 9 are based off the March 2019 model. There's been numerous improvements to it since, including an upgrade from 500 watt to 600 watt motor
@Peter L, this is true. I'll start putting the year or wattage by the numbers. That 500 to 600 watt change shouldn't effect performance as the battery and controller were unchanged but the 52v version would definitely perform better.
I very much enjoyed this informative video..But it would be nice to see how the scooter handles in more varied conditions..like over a pot hole..up a curb..shredding a corner at speed..too many videos do the same thing on scooter tests..going in a straight line on smooth roads...and what do we learn about the scooter?....not eough
i bought it yesterday, its a beast for sure
Nice, which battery option did you go with? I assume your RUclips name was prior to buying the scooter?
@@ElectronSurfer the smaller one, its priced at £799 but the bigger one is £999
Nice review man ! I just received mine and only drove 1 mile with it because it arrived pretty late in the evening (today). So I’m going to ride it Tommorow. I did notice the light of the eye display was going out while driving. Is that normal?
@@robinarden8877 yes its normal when your battery is low
11:40 it does and can if u do the small speed limiter wire trick tht can get it past 50mph but reduces battery life
Great review thanks
You got it, thanks for watching!
@@ElectronSurfer your review convinced me to buy.I live in the only part of Australia that has unrestricted wattage but limited to 15mph here in Australia so i am looking forward to it arriving
Good review 😎
I can't believe a dualtron rattles 😱
Oh they do...just nobody records it....shhhhhhh🤐
@@ElectronSurfer
I don't care any rattles from my inmotion S1 lol
It was a choice between this and the kaabo mantis 8 eco ..they both have pretty much the same kind of specs and the kaabo is on sale at the moment so I went with that... waiting for delivery next week
Cool, I will look into the Mantis 8 Eco, I don't know much about it.
great review
Thank you, much appreciated!
I have a Emove cruiser
And did a 40 mile ride
And still have 51.5 Volts and 3 Bars.
Thanks
The Emove is a range beast, the huge 52v battery with just one motor is hard to beat for range.
Nice reviwe.
Dueltron makes good
Scooters.
They really do, some of the better ones to work on as well. Thanks
Catching up on videos :) Mind if I ask how you get the data showing up on the video..is it a function of the camera or a separate app? Will sit and relax and watch this now :) Cheers Tim
Tim, it is the app that connects to my Sony camera. I will sometimes also use Dashware. Thanks!
@@ElectronSurfer love it...looks super pro :) :) thanks for sharing...stay safe :)
Nice review. What app do you use for the hud? Really like it
It's a Sony App that works with my GPS camera, I sometimes use dashware also. The Sony app doesn't stitch videos together very well and takes hours and hours to process. Thanks for the comment.
Sir can you do speed and range test for vsett 8 single motor thanks
I'm considering this scooter as my entry into Dualtron. Does this scooter have the same aggressive torque as the Emove Cruiser? I adjusted my Cruiser to the softer start, but it still pulls a little too much. Also, you said the tires are 8.5". The website has them at 9". Was there an upgrade? Thanks
I just bought one it’s awesome for its size, 34 mph , good uphills long range comfy , the only thing I don’t like is the small deck , but it’s solid and great over uneven roads and bumps 👍🏽👍🏽 it’s Definitely worth £1180 Easily, go buy one you will love it
@@pcarts232 how are you getting on with the tire? I’ve had 3 punctures in the space of a month... not impressed
@@Tenflamesmusic So I was gonna get the dual tron many how many flat tires have you really had is it the front or rear have you tried slime before I spent $1500 on some small crazy single motor scooter please help me out thank you and I don't really believe it's 30 miles an hour I'm hearing 2627 on a real GPS
Awesome review Jim, do you think you will be reviewing the new Mini Special Dual motor?
I will have to reach out the Minimotors, that would be a sweet setup!
yep thinking of thsi model due to the size of my trunk, but don't want the creaking or noisey suspension that my current Leger Pro has.
price?
Weight is only 49lbs? wow...lighter than the Zero 10....hummmmm tempting :) as I have to haul my Zero 9 up stairs :)
Can you make a video on how you took off the speed limiter
The distributor here in California sells them with the limiter removed.
i get 30 to 35 mph out of my DualtronMini, at first i thought the speedo was off but when i tested it on a GPS speedo it was only off by 1mph, maybe its to do with rider size , wind resistance/weather and road condition
That's pretty great. I did get a pretty early model Mini so there is always a chance something was different. I was surprised I didn't get that close to 30. Thanks for commenting!
Thank you my friend that
Thank you my friend for the clear honest insight into the Dualtron mini and thanks for showing me how to maintain this scooter and change the tire I am looking to buy this scooter and you told me everything I need so cheers keep safe my friend ☺️
@@ashpunting I'm glad to help, have fun riding!
Quick question sir because I just want to justify my purchase. I was on the market of medium high end scooters. My choices where the Emove Cruiser, Apollo Explore, Speedway Leger and the Dualtron Mini. Today I ended up buying the Dualtron Mini. In your opinion what do you prefer? Thanks in advance, awesome video. 👍🏼
@Mark Mante, I think the Mini is the most flexible of those options. The Cruiser has a larger deck, the Apollo Explore is basically a Zero 9, so in my mind it isn't that comparable. The Leger is basically a nicer version of the Explore or Zero 9 with a bit more battery. The Mini will get you more flexibility when the others, though good, are really just geared to paved road riding. Let me know how the Mini treats you!
Electron Surfer thanks for replying ES, I just received mine yesterday and used it asap out the box. I was so amaze of how good is the scooter. The built quality is amazing. Went to the park with my son using his ninebot max, it was very smooth. The scooter is pretty fast but is well balanced. Thanks again for the review, really help me decide to pick this scooter.
@@mmante78 hi there, do you know how much this weighs? And is it light enough to carry up a regular flight of stairs, at home? It’s around 12 steps? Or is it too heavy? Also, have you been on bumpy roads? If so does the suspension help smooth out the ride? All I care about is,
1 light enough to carry up stairs
2 has to be smooth on bumpy ground. How smooth? Well smooth enough to have a pleasant ride. I’ve almost came off my cheap scooter due to bumpy roads and potholes. Also 8.5 inch tyres seems bit small. Would love ya feedback Cheers
Great review. In your opinion is the short deck not a great option?
It really depends on your riding style. For me , I always felt like I wanted to be further back than I could be.
@@ElectronSurfer thank you
I've read that flat tires are a problem with this model. What is your experience? I'm considering buying one very soon. Otherwise i might go with the raptor.
use Armor Dillon Blue color that will solve your problem
Honestly Tom it’s been a nightmare, I’ve had this mini for two months and I’ve been through 2 tyres and 5 tubes🥲
I believe most inner tube tires are the same. It's the luck of the draw whether you get a flat. My buddy and I own the Explore and he has had 2 flats within a couple of months. I have not. However,it has given me other issues, which will require me to take it in for repair, and I have only own it 3 months. Therefore I'm reconsidering my purchase and the reason I'm looking at Dualtron.
So does the mini motors finger trigger sit up higher than the typical throttle finger trigger you find on the zero scooters? You have to stretch farther to reach the finger trigger on the mini motors display?
Omg worrying about the finger trigger🤣🤣🤣
The Ey3 does have a longer reach, quite a bit longer. I use cruise control a lot so it depends on your riding style how much of an issue that may be.
Electron Surfer Thanks so much for getting back to me on that. Love the videos. Keep them coming.
Hey bro, did you buy this scooter? If so, how does it feel accelerating with finger???? I’ve only used 1 e scooter and it had the standard comfortable button that you press down with thumb to accelerate and it felt great. So I’m disappointed to see that this e scooter has the finger trigger. Is is uncomfortable reaching ?????
1 more thing, is it relatively smooth to ride on everyday types of pavement???
I also have been looking at the Pegasus, but who doesn’t like the Dualtron scooter leds 🤩🤩🤩❤️👍🏽
I've been trying to get my hands on a Pegasus. I think it is really practical but Dualtrons are much sexier!
@@ElectronSurfer I know I wish It had the lights like the Dualtron, but I love the no flat tires.
@@JerseyStyle7 100% on the tires, even with split rims it isn't fun. I have seen a lot of really sweet aftermarket light add-ons. When I was a Dualtron dealer some people didn't like that the lights shine through the words and wanted one big light!
@@ElectronSurfer What aftermarket lights have you seen do you mean LED strip stick on‘s ? I like the Pegasus but I do not like the color scheme, you gotta check out the new fat tire trike I just bought it’s fully electric goes about 32 mph on my channel
@@JerseyStyle7 Yeah LED strips, they can look lame during the day but good at night. I'll check it out!
Bro why is the acceleration button so hard to reach??? Can you move it so it’s like a normal e scooter?
It's fine you just need to losten the allen bolts and move it down so lever is lv with your wrist he got it at a bit of a awkward angle. It has cruise control aswell.
I ended up ordering today the Mini limited 👍🏽 is this video the regular version or the limited ???
This was the regular version, limited wasn't available at the time.
@@ElectronSurfer oh good, u still liked this one, so i should love the limited
I read from someone that the dualtron mini often gets a flat tire and that's why he sold it. is that correct? is that a problem with this e scooter?
I heard that there was a run of them that had either a bad tire or a rim that affected how the tire was running. It allowed part of the sidewall to be more susceptible to flats. If it is an issue Dualtron can probably make it right for you, one way or another.
just want to make sure but did the emove touring do better on the hill climb?
Yes, the 8" rear scooters tend to really fly up hills. You wouldn't expect a 1" tire difference to affect much but it does on acceleration and hill climbing on single motor scooters.
DT Mini = 20.3 sec
Emove Touring = 17.4 sec
@@ElectronSurfer thanks! Totally did not consider small wheels to help with hill climbing haha
Hello 👋 nice video !
Do you think 13 amp is enough with this
E-scooter 🛴 ???
From France 🇫🇷
Do you mean amp hours? If so you would still get decent range and save weight so it's a give and take on what you are after. Thanks for watching from France!
Electron Surfer you’re welcome 😉
Thanks 😃👍🛴⚡️⚡️⚡️
The most range would be about 27 miles for rider weigh about 85 kilograms(= 187lbs)
@@darcychu9652 27miles with what % battery?
0%
I’m 205 5’8 in height will you say cause you mentioned this can handle a heavier rider would you recommend this for someone my weight my issue is my living status I live up stairs and at 48 pounds seems heavy but nothing compare to those 70 and higher pound scooters ?
It should work well for you the big bonus with this one is the suspension. If you don't need as much suspension the Speedway Leger Pro or Emove Cruisers are good options for heavier riders also.
Right on man sounds good okay cool I’ll keep that in mind it looks like a awesome scooter
Nice but for $1,499 it seems expensive for a single motor scooter ! Heck my Turbowheel Lightning is dual motor and I’m getting between 25-30 miles range and it cost me $1,699. It’s a rebranded Zero 10X and the suspension is amazing plus the deck is huge.
You have a point, I will say after having a Zero (not 10x) and seeing some stem failures, the jump in build quality is worth it to some folks. I plan to review a 10x as soon as they are available.
Pay cheap pay twice.The mini is another level of quality on the zero
Well like you say your deck is huge and the 10x weights 36KG while the mini weights 20KG. If you want to go on a train take in out car or nip to shops and carry it around the mini is the way to go. I have G-Booster aswell which is great fun and very similar to the 10x but it's not very practical because it's such a lump.
26mph in a single motor, how does that fare compared with others in its class?
@Robert M, for me its been the fastest that I have tested. I use GPS speed so many displays will show faster, this one said 29 when I was almost at 27. It feels like it keeps pulling even though the motor torque isn't the best for climbing hills. Thanks for watching!
hey its me, goat guy. please do not display my goats on camera. they do not like this. hahah. Great review,
Haha, well I would like to meet your goats, they have some terrific beards! They seemed to like the attention!
The braking system is focused on the back wheel right?how does that perform on wet road conditions,in a case of emergency??(currently having a m365 and will do an upgrade thinking of dualtron mini and zero9,and im having a problem because the mini's braking system seems unreliable)
@Panos Pallas, I have not had the Mini on wet roads as of yet. I would expect it work well since it has strong electronic braking and the drum is somewhat sealed from the elements. I think most scooters are very compromised in wet conditions. It can be really easy to lock up the small diameter scooter wheels in wet conditions.
@@ElectronSurfer thanks for your answer u trully help,its just i was thinking it may slip in wet conditions cause it has not a braking system on front and cause it to to a skid,again thanks for the help!!!
How does the scooter manage steep roads / Hill Climbs?
I did a hill climb at 13:54, it does ok but you are best keeping some momentum into hills as the Minimotors motor's tend to be sort of high geared, so they aren't excellent climbers.
How does it do with bill climbs?
It does pretty well, I did a hill climb at 13:54!
have you gotten the front wheel crack?
I have not, what do you mean by that?
@@ElectronSurfer they are plastic wheels and are prone to cracking
Great review, mate! You have the content just work on your thumbnails, I would miss your videos 10/10 times if I don't read the title really carefully
Thanks for the tip and compliment, I'll try to make better thumbnails!
I bought one - the tires go flat alot especially if you go top speeds with it I'm about 180lbs.. 6' 2"what up with that
Try some slime/sealent to prevent inner tube punctures.
Hey, how smooth is the ride? And how does the acceleration trigger feel?? I’m bummed that it isn’t the normal button that you push down with thumb. God knows why they went with this trigger.
Try to switch to honeycomb tires.
how the suspension performance?
Quite good, its one of the strong points of this scooter, a lot of travel. It is on the firm side, but for most riders it should work well.
You haven't locked the scooter in properly hense why it's rattleing. The silver pin to the right needs to be turned and locked into its grove.
@Jamie Hickman, it was actually locked in. I somehow got a Mini that had a few oddities in the locking mechanism area. The threaded hole opposite the pin is no longer there, also the base of the pin on this scooter was longer than the newer ones making it look like it isn't snapped into the groove. I have seen a few mini's since that don't have this vibration or noise from the pin. Thanks!
question? will the xiomi 365 solid tyres fit onto a dualtron mini rim
Hi Jim,
I have a Zero 9 and I am disappointed about the suspension.
I am considering buying a Dualtron Mini.
I don’t have money for more.
Do you think the Mini has a better suspension than the Zero 9?
I read that the Mini has rubber in the suspension.
I think Zero 9 no.
Thank you very much!
I have noticed that the Zero 9's suspension can bottom out for some riders. The Mini has much firmer suspension and more travel. I am honestly not sure if there is an elastomer in there with the spring. Personally I feel the Mini's suspension is much better than the Zero 9's.
Is it only the suspension that turns you off about the Zero 9? There are some other options, like the Speedway Leger that could work for you too, they are coming out with a 52v version of the Leger. Thanks
Thank you Jim for answering!
I like this review like its a good review but i find it a shame that u tried to hide the creaking on ur scooter i mean u didnt even mention it once.
@JRY, this is exactly why I leave in the actual riding audio so people can pick out details since there is no way I could talk about each one and not have a 40 min video.
That being said while you are riding you tend to hear more of the road noise than the squeaks.
How's the suspension?
I find the travel really good it soaks up bumps large and small, I think the suspension, though firm, is one of the strong points of this scooter.
Is there a way to turn off those lights? I mean the accent ones. They're kinda lame.
They turn on with the front and rear deck lights, you can turn them off or change their layout/color with the included remote.
''this is Dualtronable on this thing''
haha right on!
Acceleration 0-25kmh ?
I do time to a set distance (30m), it is more accurate and repeatable for me as I don't have access to a high accuracy GPS that would track 0-25.
Im 105kgs will this scooter be able to take my weight????
You are a little above its rated maximum, I'm sure you know that. I don't think the scooter would have any issues, maybe slower acceleration and range, but you'll see that with moat scooters. It may be worth asking if it would affect your warranty.
@@ElectronSurfer I thinkbom gonna get the speedway 5 the 3600 watt motor looks epic
@@conorhulgraine I will be posting a Speedway 5 video next week, it's a rush for sure. Handling is much different than the Mini but the torque is awesome.
@@ElectronSurfer ye I think the speedway 5 would be better for me as im heavier! iv also heard the wheels are a little smaller which means much more torch for hills! I saw the mini struggle a bit on a hil with a guy that was like 80kg so im worried I live in London so there are some hills and I usually have a bag on my back which can weigh 10 kgs at times for work!
but ye the speedway 5 is just a handsome scooter and looks a little more classy!
@@ElectronSurfer So I bought the mini with the 17.5 amp battery I have to say im very impressed with the performance of this scooter it is easily able to pull my 105kgs up and down hills and has excellent cruising capabilities as well. the only issue iv had with the scooter so far is the little remote that they give for the light customisation which is quite moody and doesesnt want to work sometimes but awesome scooter all in all!
So this scooter can do 30 mph ...but your battery wasn't fully charged..what percentage were you at during the video?
I didn't say it could do 30, Minimotors does, my maximum was under 27 mph. I do my max speed right off the charger.
I know you didn’t say, man. I find it interesting that electric scooter guide got theirs up to nearly 31 mph. I’m 155 lbs.. I might get it to 30mph. Do you feel the scooter is worth $1,499? Thanks for replying so quickly!
@@chasem8491 I can only report my speed and I would be very surprised if someone got the Mini up over 30mph. I think at $1,499 it is starting to be tough with the 52v Leger Pro, Futecher Gun Pro, and the newer Emove Cruiser. The thing the Mini has over all of these is better suspension but if you are routinely riding over 25 mph I'd think seriously about having a front brake. I'm going to a deeper dive on my data between the scooter I mentioned above very soon. I hope this helps!
@@ElectronSurfer I appreciate your feedback! I value your channel..I've watched your review of the EcoReco S5..but I'm trying to sell it with no luck..I have an L5 + (have you thought of reviewing it?) EcoReco has been alright. Their L5 + is a good scooter. I've gone 24 mph and roughly 22 miles on one charge. Not bad for $850. After I saw this review for the Dualtron, I might sell the L5 soon.
@@chasem8491 I had some issues with EcoReco and would gladly review one if they sent one my way. After reviewing other scooters, I'll be honest I've never even thought of buying another EcoReco. My advice is if you really want some speed look at the lighter dual motor options, the Vsett 9+, Dualtron Spider, Dualtron Victor. You can get some insane performance for just a few $ more.
This road is by no means 14 degrees, 14% can and this particular skate with difficulty rises 14 degrees and not with 9 mph something you have not measured correctly
@panos tzavalas, you are right, I made the mistake again of saying, and even correcting, the 14%. I measured this slope at between 7 and 9 degrees with an incinometer...Correction noted. Thank You!
Are you the guy I just met at the bud shop.
I get that all the time...maybe!?
Is a ninebot as good as this?
I haven't tested the Ninebot, I have ridden around a little on a Ninebot max. The handling, suspension, and speed of the Dualtron Mini is way better.
@@ElectronSurfer thanks
I just wish this had front brakes or a option to add a system atleast..👍🏽
I hear you, the new Speedway Leger Pro and Futecher Gun both have a front drum brake that seems to work pretty well.
I was in speed mode 2
is the mini rain/waterproof?
NO
You rode the e scooter to 50% battery and then doubled the mileage to get the total range, because many scooters give false battery readings. Would have rathered you ran it until is died.
@Healiing Cove, I would never ride to 50% and then double the miles, I also don't ride to empty because that is not good for long term battery health. I rode 24.7 miles in mode 2 to under 10% battery and ~18 miles in mode 3 to about 55%. I don't use the battery indicator (they are very inaccurate) I use voltage with displays that have it, the Ey3 does, as that is much more accurate. I hope that helps!
@@ElectronSurfer Thanks for the clarification. I am looking to get 30 miles and am a first time purchaser. I like the Mini and Inmotion L9 for range, the Mini is cooler, faster but 1.8 times the price of the L9. It appears they are very close in range.
The super charger comes in handy but it cost $150 thoe 😳
True, my only issue with fast chargers is they heat up the battery and tend to reduce the number of charge cycles you will get in the long run. Thanks
@@ElectronSurfer wow thanks for the tip mate i would of never known that, so are you using the battery that comes in the box?
@@JohnjOcampo Yes I almost always just use the default charger, if you have the time the slowest charging is best. Now when companies start to give us adjustable output chargers, like you can buy for a few hundred USD, we will be stylin'. Cheers!
i was expecti g a full range test...
I took it down to under 10% battery in my second range test in mode 3 since I think more people would ride this scooter in that mode. My testing has shown a good representation using the efficiency in other speed modes if I ride close to 20 miles. I'll have more range data up on website soon. Thanks
He gave plenty of info...
please use metric system on your vids
No.... just no.
I have it, its beutiful. But its slow i think.
In my testing it was slower than the other dualtron/minimotors 52v single motor scooters but, still faster than any 48v single motor scooter I've tested. So if you want faster than this one I'd suggest dual motors! Cheers
This scooter has let me down a lot sorry to bursts anyone’s bubble but the amount of punctures I get is ridiculous
Sorry to hear that, I tend to believe flats are more of a product of where you ride. I knew a guy who kept getting flats because they were doing some construction in his neighborhood, nails and staples all the time. That being said the shape of some of the Dualtron and Minimotors tires, kind of a low profile, stretched tire, is probably the worst idea from a flat perspective. I appreciate you chiming in!
I need your help please get back to me I really wanted to buy this dual tron many but I'm hearing about flat tires also how many have you had on rear or front please tell me what's going on thank you
@@jasontomica8938 My understanding is Minimotors USA has upgraded the tires used on the Mini. Talking to Minimotors, they told me that the flat tire issues has been a lot less pronouced since. I don't still ride the Mini so I can't share my personal experience. Thanks
you gotta put your eye display way down.. should have your finger angled down for best control and if you have it up like that after like 20km you wont feel your finger anymore haha
True but to shoot a review I want to leave it up so you can see it! I leave my displays slightly loose so I can change the tilt as I ride. Thanks!
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