KSP2 "something more?" Mystery Solved! Mun Arch EXPOSED
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- We got an exciting crossover between Kerbal Space Program 2 and Kerbal Space Program. The latter got version 1.12.5 that had just one peculiar change. Also, a new feature video episode was released for KSP2. In this video, I break it all down for you.
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I truly hope that KSP2 leans again into the abandoned lore planned for KSP1. I want to see an ancient alien city in a frozen world!
Yep
I feel like Eve would make for the perfect abandoned world should they decide making a whole new planet is not worth it.
Is there a place where I can read into this abandoned lore ?
Remember the KSP 2 cinematic announcement trailer. It showed an alien colony. I'm sure they will do lore. but in my opinion I don't really care about lore I just want to have fun with the gameplay.
@@RobertOortwijn I don't remember where I saw this, but the lore was something like this:
You had to found all the easter eggs in KSP. Each would give you a hint for the Coordinates of the orbit of a Secret 8th Planet in the Kerbol System. After you decipher this puzzle, you could fly to this 8th Frozen Planet which used to be the home world of an ancient civilisation. That Civilisation was the one who created the Kerbals before they went extinct.
Someone did decompile the game files after the update and confirmed that the lights on the arch are supposed to correspond to different planets in the Kerbol system. There's also a Moho light hidden under the rock on the left side of the arch, which also indicates that the missing planets are there.
I also saw someone point out that if the pattern continues on the other side, then it would have Moho, Kerbin, Dres, and Eeloo, which might mean there's an 8th planet after Jool to balance it out. In the actual Kerbol system, it would probably be past Eeloo, if they continue the pattern of switching from left to right as you get further out.
I.e: (left - 1) Moho, (right - 1) Eve, (left - 2) Kerbin, (right - 2) Duna, (left - 3) Dres, (right - 3) Jool, (left - 4) Eeloo, (right - 4) planet 8?
Would absolutely love to have Gas Giant 2 (as was originally planned in KSP1) in stock KSP2. I've long since given up hope of a new planet for the Kerbol system, let's hope this is it.
Just want to point out that the star in the middle is Kerbol not Sun. I know this has been a discussion for a long time but I hope that it gets settled in KSP 2.
@@BrunoTrecenti nobody said it was the sun
@@BrunoTrecenti Its the Sun for the Kerbol System. The name of the sun isnt the sun, it's sol. "The Sun" is realtive to what ever star system you're in. If I was living in the alpha centuari system then Centuari A, Centauari B, and Proxima centuari would be my suns.
Decompiling the game is technically against the Take-Two Games EULA though...
I definitely think they're going back to the old lore of KSP and that the arches are some sort of transportation device that the ancient civilisation used to use. Maybe they changed the lore and the civilisation actually moved to one of the other star systems and we'll find clues of this on the arc in ksp2?
I hope they’re just a cosmetic thing tho, I don’t want to be able to just teleport, you should have to actually use interstellar travel
I agree that it’s definitely a map of the kerbol system, however I don’t see how a map of the kerbol system would be much help to us, so I think there must be some secret with the arch, for example that it used to be a transportation thingy.
And maybe it will help us unlock the map to the other star systems or something
I believe that portals or stargates would make the entire interstellar travel part of KSP2 more or less irrelevant. That's why I am in the "it's a map" camp. We know there will be 2 more star systems and there are 2 more arches on Mun. The one exposed now shows the Kerbolar system we all know. The other two might be hiding maps for the upcoming systems for interstellar travel.
@@ShadowZone Spoiler: The Mun is a megastructure build by the predecessors that surrounds a captured star which is used to contain the Kraken.
Oh wait I think i spoiled the plot of Moonfall.
@@ShadowZone It could be a thing that being able to activate the stargate is a late post-game feature. So it's basically a "you did everything, good job, now here's a tool to let you do whatever you still want to do easier if you like".
@@ShadowZone Maybe u have to find the other portals in the galaxy and activate them all. Then they open up, like a end-game mechanism for fast travel.
Did you try slamming another rocket into the arch? Doubt much would happen but hey ya never know!
glitching hidden hints in the terrin is probably the most kerbal thing ever
That bit about having a reason to explore reminds me of Outer Wilds. It might be nice to follow a series of clues that could lead to more sci-fi kind of tech.
I just finished Outer Wilds this week so that was on my mind when I saw that!
Outer wilds is my favorite game ever~
Ancient alien tech tree that only unlocks via finding the parts and researching them would be absolutely dope.
@@astrojoules you have any tips? I'm struggling with Outer Wilds...I discover new clues and tips linking each other but then I stop playing and forget what the hell I should do except to just travel somewhere I see a note I think is active still.
Moho is actually visible on the other side and on the opposite side of the arch if you clip the camera in. That means there should be Kerbol in the middle with Moho, Kerbin, Dres and Eeloo on the left and Eve, Duna and Jool on the right. 4 on the left and 3 on the right doesn't seem very balanced so maybe there will be another planet beyond Jool on the map?
the something more name of the chapter where these videos play in the video seems to support this
That broken mun arch might be an exposed part of an alien base that was covered in dust and stuff like that, kind of like sedimentary rocks
So excited for KSP2
Same
Same
Would be cool if you actually had to discover planets with a telescope or something before they appear in the map view, I really hope they do something like that for some of the planets
Yes! Could also add more progression.
An exploration unlock tree. Build small telescope anywhere, build large telescope on mountain, build space telescope. Weather satellites to discover good placements for ground telescopes or other kinds of satellites to find stuff on planets. Discover ruins on kerbin or other planets with clues on where to focus the telescopes.
Discover new resource nodes on planets to unlock more parts. Etc.
I just wanna send a radio signal to the nearest star and then be notified that vessels have been detected dispatching from that star, expected to arrive in the Kerbal system in 4 .5 years.
I been thinking atleast about add a optional ingame option to add like mistery planets X, you dont have any info about it, just visual and gravity info if you get close
i want things like radio wave recording like the audio we have of saturn etc in ksp2, real science would be cool
planets tend to be bright enough to not need telescopes to see them, but having to research other star systems with telescopes would make much more sense and be also really cool! perhaps in-kerbol system as well for smaller stuff, like small moons
One possibility is that there is another planet in the KSP system, but that it's very, very far out. I'm thinking something like the hypothetical Planet 9, a large planet in the far outer solar system. Models for this estimate an orbital distance about 20x that of Neptune. That would mesh nicely with the cartoon @6:53. In that drawing, the distant planet is clearly around Kerbol itself, not some distant star.
From a developer/game perspective, this could make a lot of sense. Interstellar travel in-game will require a lot of new fundamental mechanics, new types of trajectories, etc, that challenge the fundamental way KSP 1 was built, around a heliocentric universe. But a distant world around Kerbol would be just another planet, requiring no fundamental change to the game architecture. However, it would still be much further away than Jool or Eeloo, providing a strong incentive to use the more exotic engine types being developed for KSP2. It allows an in-game reason to use a lot of the interstellar-capable engines while still sticking to a single-system game architecture.
100% agree, from a game development standpoint adding a super far out planet past eeloo can make sense from a lore standpoint (it's so far out that it's barely detectable) plus from a gameplay perspective it gives the devs a reason to have interstellar-class parts for an in-system planet without having to actually having the interstellar game mechanics in place yet. Plus it lets them add content to the early access game besides just new parts. Players will want something NEW to do besides the 7 planets and assorted moons we're already familiar with. Adding an ice giant on the outskirts of the solar system is a perfect choice for all the reasons you mentioned.
Yes. And wouldn't it be great if that planet is actually a moon around an ancient, dormant, and minimally sized stellar-mass black hole. Maybe the Kerbal system is a binary system! The gravity assist around that thing could help with travel to other systems. That burned-out half of the Kerbal system could also be useful for enhancing the lore by being the former home planet of an interplanetary species wiped out by the black hole's supernova event.
Anyway, a 'star gate' system of interstellar travel would be lame.
Why would it be a problem to add interstellar travel with the currently available mechanics? Yeah distances are insane and no Kerbal on the home planet would be alive at the time the mission reaches it's target (without FTL travel of course) but all you would have to do is treat the whole Kerbal solar system like a planet regarding spheres of influence.
@@niri2506 the original game engine treats kerbol as the center of the universe. Adding additional solar systems would kinda break things. Modders tried it and it doesn't really work.
@@NotMyActualName_ oh okay 😅 I thought it might be possible to simply convert Kerbol to a "planet" and add a super massive black hole as the new "sun" in the center of the galaxy and add additional solar systems (which again would just act like other planetary systems) from there.
Hmmm that worries me for the possibility of interstellar travel for KSP2. They already said they want to slowly add more stuff to the game and get the basics right first. If the new engine got the same issue that would likely make interstellar travel impossible 🙄
You know what, I kinda think the roadmap update cycles for early access are going to provide a fun little waiting game in itself after Science. Think, you'll have time enough to fully explore the new solar system gather science, then they add Colonies at which point to colonize planets and ready up your refueling stations and whatnot, then they add Inter-Stellar travel where you can use those facilities to prepare your interstellar ships, then you'll be able to use the ship you've built to Explore. This is all assuming the updates don't just break the saves though
3:40 i just love we are in a point were in a space related video we can say the flight to the moon or mun un the case was uneventful showing how KSP cemented the orbital mechanics laws in our brains in a very visual and interacted and honestly a mind blowing way! Can't wait for KSP2
Can’t wait to discover more lore in KSP2! And ULA is absolutely awesome for letting the dev team record an Atlas Launch (although i’d love to also hear Falcon 9 or even Raptor sounds in the game, come on SpaceX give these guys a tour too!)
you forgot to mention that they also recorded announcement in Spanish in the ULA VAB. Mod Chatterer depicts Kerbals speaking reversed Spanish. So it seems to be canon now.
All this is reminding me of the cut storyline from KSP1. The one that involved the connecting the eastereggs around the system and the kerbals finding the lost precursor planet at the edge of the solar system out past eeloo but was cut due to one guy leaving Squad a few years ago.
This is starting to give me Outer Wilds vibes with that hidden arch construct.
This is the moment when I wanna to share this video to my friends to discuss, but no one of them is interested in KSP.
I feel you bro, most of my friends have no idea what I’m talking about when I tell them about KSP stuff
@@briannorman1750 There's 1 in every friend group like us, but only one.
The "something more" image looks like a kerbal meeting a kraken like alien after crashing
The "secret planet" was supposed to be a big easter egg for ksp but then it was scrapped by the devs. You were supposed to find the "secret planet" by finding structures or landshapes on different planets.
You can find one of these in duna; the SSTV pyramid, decoding it would show a piece of a map that was going to be used on the easter egg.
The planet lore was about kerbal history, about a civilization that love or was forced to launch stuff to the space trying to reach somewhere or place and one of them was kerbin. In the game the planet was supposed to be frozen with ancient cities on surface.
While ksp2 was being developed, i saw a post about this and searched through ksp 2 videos to find something about it. And i found the same thing in 6:49 which led me to think "the secret planet will be added in ksp 2". At the end of some videos you would get a ksp gameplay of a lander landing to the mun (i thought it was going to be a surprise update for ksp) and it ends up crashing to the mun arch causing it to break and update the game. (you can watch this on the latest video "Kerbal Space Program 2: Episode 7 - Recording Rockets" on youtube).
Most likely devs will add this easter egg. The devs might did some changes to the "secret planet" lore and made it a alien planet but still this is really cool.
and can somebody crash to the mun arch on high speeds? it may reveal something.
recording 'real' rocket sounds is probably the most exciting pieces of news i've heard about KSP2!! i hope the devs get this one right, so many ppl absolutely love ksp :)
if this really is the way to discover interstellar travel in KSP 2 this means it becomes a reason to make impactor probes! something not really needed in ksp 1 (unless doing Rp1 ofc)
KSP 1 has a deployable seismic science module in Breaking Ground that gives you science for crashing things into the body it's on. I've never used it, but theoretically impactor probes are already useful in ksp1
@@pocarski never had any of the DLC before, didnt know that. still, I do think this would be a much cooler way of expressing need for impactors lol
I hope Howard does a great job with the soundtrack. The one for Planetary Annihilation was simply phenomenal!
(Also, can we have a buried Commander somewhere as an easter egg?)
I personally would really like it if they make something more like Outer Wilds, where you investigate a previous civilisation, I think it would be great if instead of random black monoliths, we could get actual information from someone or something who was there before, it would make finding anomalies much more interesting!
They said there would be mysteries on the new dres mountain range, and I feel like this is some sort of portal to it
This reminds me of the farcasters from the Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons. Would be interesting if they were an optional fast travel system. I wouldnt want to use them but it would make colony buildkng a lot easier
42 days left for ksp2! Let's goo
Lets gooo! Thanks for the KSP video
So excited for this!
Shocking!
Hey-hey Marcus!
@@bryantarms 👋
6 weeks to puts our hands in the KSP2 EA. Can't Wait!
1:20 as we know there will be interstellar travel, so i think that maybe there would be alien life or something like that
I think it’s an ancient kraken civilization, that could control gravity. And kept teasing the players of ksp1
Could that mean that the Kraken Drive is a legit method?
I believe that one guy in one of the KSP 2 trailers was the B9 Aerospace guy. My brother loves that mod and some of the new parts do have that industrialized look he made.
My best guess for the second message is that you're supposed to go to a planet with 4 moons, and then following the line (probably using some new tech) explore "outside the box".
Interstellar travel confirmed??1?
Wrong, *gas leak*
The image is interesting it might suggest what planet or maybe what star to find them in however I doubt there will be 11 stars
Whenever ksp releases a new video im waiting for you deep review!
Im wondering... what woul happen if you keep crashing aganist the moon archs with the same ship as in the video? Maybe more segments will be revealed?
Thanks for your videos!
Probably nothing, the footage from the "Something more?..." videos is from KSP2 engine, and they only updated KSP1 to reflect that one specific change.
6:50 someone needs to extract the asset file and see what lies under.
someone on reddit pulled the texture file, nothing else hidden (apart from the green thing shadow showed off in the video)
''Loud noises!''
-Brick Tamland 1974
I think the two arecibo messages correspond to kerbals sending out a message to beyond their system, this message contains information about the kraken and how the kraken destroys any craft trying to leave the kerbolar system, the second message is a response to the first depicting a pathway which could take them to their system, either somewhere out of the Kraken's watch or through the mun arch
That reminds me of a film (the name I forgot) where a boy tries decoding ufo messages by math and needs to find out the places of a puzzle
Plot twist: The map leads to Solar System and the aliens are humans
There are multiple moon arches though, four markers in this video, so maybe each arch has a map of another solar system in it?
This new planet spurs the interstellar race in ksp 1 setting up ksp 2 to pick right up with a new planet right at launch all while encouraging people to play ksp1 to go visit all the anomalys, its the perfect way to set a sequel and drive up player numbers at launch with a hype train
I say it every time I see that roadmap for KSP2. WHATS THE BLURRY SECTION AT THE END??!
me and my homies are already planning our interstellar warfare tactics to blow each other up with all of the interesting new mechanics and engines in KSP 2
1:17 a kerbal points at the kraken, and the kraken lifts up an arm. The kraken's lifted arm could be:
1. A wave of greeting, symbolizing an alliance between kerbals and the kraken, and some sort of powerful and mystifying engine technology necessary to travel beyond the 10th planet of the kerbolar system, whose part description rumors that it is powered by the kraken.
2. A wave of greeting because the kraken has been found by kerbals on the 10th planet as indicated in the map, or through a gateway located on the 10th planet.
3. A palm-out hand signal to stop, meaning the kraken can no longer be found or summoned, or has been banished.
4. A palm-out hand signal to stop and have mercy, as the developers attack the kraken with intent to destroy it.
i was wondering when shadow zone was gonna make a video on this. i cant believe that the rocket crashing into the arch actually led to a thing in the mun arch (whatever it is)
One think I'd like about rocket sounds is that we have a different sound for srbs and liquid engines.
I cant wait for what easter eggs they will add in all the solar systems
Trying to do chores but you making me want to play games 😅
Having seen the gameplay footage coming out recently, I have upgraded from "skeptical" about KSP2 to "cautiously optimistic" - dare I even say "hyped"?
make please surround sound .Also would be cool to find some star gates that would transfer a ship to other star system .I always loved use SSTO's ships to travel far .
An interstellar mission to find primitive life as we know it is plenty exciting- This area should have biomes with ultra-valuable science multipliers. Adding abandoned lore and other abandoned content planned for KSP1 will only add to the fun.
I’m thinking that it’s actually a hint that they’re releasing two other systems at the same time and another’s in development.
The middle star could be kerbol.
hopefully we don't look at this as the point where they jumped the shark
At 3:09 I saw something that blew my mind...how did you add a chunk of parts and have them just hovering disconnected from the main body without being connected to anything?! When I do this one set of parts is always greyed out and you can't strut it to anything.
There is an upside down 1.875m engine plate between the conical and the cylindrical fuel tanks of the transfer stage. I have disabled the shroud in the parts menu so when adding something to the "bottom" it looks like it floats in the air. Similar to how interstage truss nodes work in fairings but with the added bonus that you can decouple the part(s) attached to it.
The KSC looks epic
That’s a path through a wormhole if I ever saw one in 1-bit graphics…
Watch them pull a Dark Souls DLC situation where now you need to get to the Mun arch, which will turn into a portal if you took a surface sample from the lowest point of the mo-hole, brought the sample to a research lab landed on Eeloo, brought back to Kerbin, brought it back to the Mun arch, then waited for Feb 24 2023 (in real-time), then you install, and finally begin playing.
Do you think that could be possible to port KSP2 in VR thanks to the developer team during the development or with mods ?
KerbalVR exists for KSP 1, so it's a matter of time.
@@greenhexagon7072 Ooohhh I didn't know, thank you so much !
Still waiting for February 🗿🍷
42 days left!
@ThePolishTech The meaning of life the universe and everything
@@matthewcoetzee3413 KSP2 is the meaning of life, correct
maybe it will start crumbling in updates to see what the next planet will be.
can u blast the rock off to reveal the other planetary locations on the arch ? perhaps there are other arch's on the other planetary bodies in the kerbal system? they seem large enough to drive and fly through....
I LOVE the passion going into KSP2 and the fact that they got actual recording of the VAB ambience and a rocket launch shows their dedication towards it. However If im to be brutally honest that engine sound for the "in-game audio" was.. quite bad. And incorrect for a liquid only rocket that was shown. I really hope its cleaned up for release because theres way too much fuzz and white noise. Rocket Sound Enhancement for KSP1 sounds miles better then what we hear in that clip.
Ksp1 game engine was really capable of alot and allowed for some very cool modding. If ksp2 game engine is as better as I'm hoping I'm really looking forward to what the community can add in the years to come
WOOO NEW VIDEO
I hope KSP2 lives up to the hype.
Jool actually has six dots around it (one is covered in a lot of dust). Maybe there will be a new moon in the joolian system
Im kinda wondering if the other mun arches have something similar underneath them now and all it would take is crashing a craft into them to find out...
Js if they wanted to hide a secret but give us a hint, breaking one of three open would be a great way to do so.
The release date on steam has changed from feb 24 to coming soon. This might be a delay. Can you look into this ShadowZone? Since you have inside info and contacts? This might also be a bug or mistake. Concidering it still says 24th on their website.
They said it's a Steam Early Access bug. February 24th is still planned.
@@ShadowZone Thanks :)
I've been so worried about KPS2's future ever since the trouble started, but watching him record all the audio with such passion, well, it really made me think, "Maybe it's gonna be okay"
KSP is a one-of-a-kind game (unfortunately), and KSP2 seems like it has the ability to surpass it in every way with the goals it's set. Seeing it's development hit the rocks was such a letdown, so it was nice to finally feel like we might still get the KSP2 we're all hoping for. I mean, whens the next time someone will make an in-depth space flight sim oozing with equal parts math and charm??
Imagine if they do something crazy with the whole "ancient aliens" thing by making all this stuff remnants of a galactic (or intergalactic?) *human* empire.
It would I be so cool if it was some sort of teleport (maybe as a reference to contact)
What visual mods do you have?
if the second arch is a map of our solar system then what is the first arch a map of ?
I hope Magic Boulders have some purpose on KSP2. Maybe made of unobtainium?
It just hit me that early access starts in like 6 weeks…suddenly feels so close for something that has been in development for so long
A used for the mod BD armoury .
We often say games where better back in the day.... i think its just we would spend 1 year in this mystery instead of knowing the day after without having even played 😅
The binary coded pixel message states :
Star system requires travel to planet with at least 6 moons, one travel way from inner system to planet with moons, other moon of this planet has travel way to 10th planet of another system, with 9 other planets in that system around a similar star. Two humanoids depicting size and bilogical pysiolgoy of senders of message.
sweet ass guitar chief
Of course aliens. Have we forgotten the crashed UFO on the Mun?
i wonder if well be able to break newtons laws and build an electri rocket in ksp 2
February 24, that close already? I need to finally rescue Valentia Kerman bring her home from years of orbiting around the sun
spamton has [becomed] mun arch???
it's funny because the lights are pink and yellow, like his glasses
I should really play kerbil again before ksp2 so I can actually learn how to do orbital intercepts with other craft as I really struggle with that
It’s the beginning of The Kerbal Avengers!! Those stones are the Infinity Stones and the decoded message is a picture of Thanos…. 😂😅😂
I wanted to be one of the first people too see the thing with my own eyes because I physically saw KSP go from "Play" to "Update" on Steam as I was going through tabs idly and watching the new KSP2 video. So I definitely cheated to the arches, but you know... :P
For this one I just loaded up a new game and turned on infinite feul and went.
Is the cancelled KSP1 easter egg finally returning? I am so sad all the mystery will never be close to what was originally achieved with the magic boulder, but I still have high hopes about this one
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If you've ever played the outer wilds. I hope KSP leans into that explore for yourself aspect. With tons to discover along the way.
I think just too many people complained that the arches made no sense because they can only be created by wind. Now they just make a little more sense.
Just crash into it to peel the stones off
I have a theory that in ksp2, all of the planets are in the arch, ALL the gameplay in ksp2 is probably in the arch.
i think that map to aliens will be on diffrent planets and we must solve it just like puzzles
The devs are amazing!
I hope planet 8 is a worm whole that brings you to a new solar system.
Nice.
Well at the very least I would hope for more easter eggs like KSP1, but having a full story would seem inappropriate for such a presumably open world game. Fortunately I think you could go for something somewhere in between. If the story is conveyed via encountering ancient alien ruins then the game "Outer Wilds" shows what that might look like.