If they just fixed the hitboxes on his 1, 11, ws12, df1, 31, and heat burst he would be a perfectly functional and pretty good character. Reina would still be better than him and she's strong but not like crazy OP or something. They buffed the hitbox on the left hook in his cd41 which literally no one was asking for instead of all the other fundamental tools with bad hitboxes. Makes no sense.
Yeah only if he is Drunk But..... TO GET TO MY POINT.......You have to know your Potential and Master The Character and Strengthen your MENTAL SKILLS AS A DEDICATED COMP. PLAYED !!!!!
He would be pretty good but his damage is so low for the execution required (like Lee in tekken 7 but without the great wall-carry) and his hitboxes are bad. Like if Reina does a d4 against him, and he blocks it (-15), he cannot launch it because twin pistons whiffs 90% of the time (only hits if you're slightly to her left). Same goes for most other generic d4s if they hit from anything but point-blank. Even Bryans snake edge, twin pistons will whiff. I mean you should use ws2 there but still, twin pistons should not whiff on a blocked snake edge. Punishment is supposed to be his strong suit but his punishment is unreliable and damage is low.
@@tongpoo8985 Agreed, but those are quality of life changes for the character. As a whole, the character has very strong attacks that keep in a decent spot on the tier list. I would like to see his df1 get fixed though for sure.
As someone stated already, too little reward for the execution that’s demanded of him, so why would you pick him over other characters with better damage output and better tools. I say this as a Kaz main that is really starting to see the gaslighting surrounding him with regards to Tekken 8 specifically.
@@ScrodumHatLeo asuka jun jin all have armor breaking moves just to name a few but that is by far the least thing u have to worry about those tools are actually not that broken
...lol Kazuya's been TMM's favorite all his life, he earned god rank with harder characters in 7 and occasionally holds his own against pros. Him sticking with Kazuya at this level shouldn't come off as a surprise.
@AshSlave1 i don't think so. You can clearly see the side steps both Shaheen players were doing getting high damage and the counter hit timings were spot on.
Xiaoyu barely made it into the top 50 at EVO. There were two Xiaoyu players. Contrast with 9 Fengs, 6 Victors and 4 Hwoarangs. MainMan has had a hate-boner for Ling since, well, forever.
The fact that you are playing a non broken champ against broken champs and still read chat and answer is really impressive and makes those S-tier char players look even worse I started learning Kazuya because of you, and I am absolutely loving it!
I wish there was a place to see how many of each charachter are in each tier. I have people telling me I'm getting carried with Jin when they play Xiaoyu, Feng, Shaheen, Azucena, Alisa, Raven etc
Jin is great but not top 5,raven is solid,nothing special,just can get away with a lot of stuff for free when the opponent doesn't know the matchup,the rest u mentioned are just a nightmare to face
@@dujekrneta7154 I'm in blue ranks so everyone is a nightmare when they spam. Raven is...weird. No matchup knowledge since I don't see him often etc. But man, all the others can just spam and get away with everything!!! It's laughable to say a Jin carried someone when he is one of the most honest along with Paul, Kazuya etc. Those characters earn their matches
@@SpyrosFougias true,fighting top tier characters makes u feel like you are playing tekken 7 and they rushed to tekken 9,i hope it will balance out with time
Don't worry, you're not carried with Jin. He's easier than he was in 7 and very strong but he's a very respectable character. Anyone playing those characters (except raven) telling you you're carried is absolutely wild
I won’t say that Jin carries people but I think he does have insanely good tools and he’s very good at just about everything tbh but he’s not on the level of those characters you mentioned. You actually have to think when you use Jin. I have trouble fighting him for some reason lol
As much as I hate automatically being at a disadvantage by playing against an S tier, I could live with characters like Shaheen, Kazuya, Lili, Reina etc being the S tiers, rather than characters who give you literally no counterplay options like Dragunov and Feng 🥱 like if you really want those chars to keep all their tools, at least make the DAMAGE balance appropriate for how fair/unfair the tools are.. *cough* Xiaoyu
If Xiaoyu gets a need to her damage and maybe tweak her heat mechanics and she’ll be fine keeps her evasion and oki loses damage and offense sounds fair?
@@SauceYT0300the whole point of balance is to make characters average out to being like a B overall. If you're going to have maxed out evasion and punishment tools then it's gonna have to cost you in offense. They have no problem making Kazuya excel in oki and power strikes at the expense of poking, horrible tracking, incomplete throw game, and holding you hostage with EWGF to handle your 15f on block punishment. Why can't they do the same with all the characters?
@@SauceYT0300 Xiaoyu's damage was already nerfed in heat, and her HYP 3 is -13. She doesn't need any other changes, y'all just need to actually let your egos go and lab the matchup.
@@AfroKing.a lot of Shaheen’s shit is duckable. His db 1,2, his 1,2,3 jab string, his 2,3 jab string, forward 2,3, down(charged) up 2. He balances it out with his hit throws and safe launchers, though
@@j.i.nthenobody54Besides orbital which good players can react to if they're ducking, he doesn't have safe launchers. Df2 is safe but doesn't launch crouchers. His scary mids are uf1, WR2, b2 and FCdf2. He's mostly a menace at the wall because he can mix you up with a looping guard break or a wall splatting mid that's +oB
Nah he should be buffed, he’s execution heavy, high risk, no gimmick character. Everyone knows your strings, everyone knows the matchup, just to be decent with this character you need highly advanced execution, execution that most blue ranks don’t have, just to make the character somewhat competitive.
@@christoferprestipino7433 not high risk. You can go for high risk but use ff2 (safe not step-able mid) or db4 or d1+2 for lows. That is what pros or high level kazuyas do until they get a hard read. Do not underestimate kazuyas okie and heat chip. Kazuya on wall destroys you with db 21 heat dash its pretty much easy round win. Even at tekken king people don’t know how to dodge this okie setup. Also wtf blue kazuyas don’t have execution? Kazuya bryans and lees at these ranks are gigachads and way better than others.
@@zaimrana2746 I know blue tank Kaz’s are monsters, what I’m saying is the execution and skill required to get him there, most other players in the same ranks do not have, cause they don’t need to. Kaz works harder then any other character in the game to be effective and I think he should be more effective as a reward for all that hard work
I wish kaz’s twin pistons hand a little more range. It’s annoying when you block a snake edge and try to punish with twin pistons only to straight up miss. Also I don’t hate Jin, I think he’s cool I just want to tone the tracking down a little bit. Feels like a lot of his sweeping animations will clip both side of side steps also trying to side step one of his heat smashes will get you pulverized.
@@raiaanahmed8804 sometimes I be getting nervous. I know that blocking a snake edge guarantees a WS2 but a lot of low sweeping animations characters have that aren’t true snake edges won’t guarantee that WS2 like eddy, xiou, feng, and jun.
@@raiaanahmed8804 I guess I’m more comfortable with going for a twin piston and eating whatever follows if I’m wrong but just knowing I’m getting launched if I’m wrong about a WS2 absolutely kills my motivation especially when characters are killing you off of 2 combos.
This shit is not meant for kazuya mains anymore I’m convinced . It’s hard out here. The grind is hard And the spamming is just unbearable. You give me motivation tho my boy. Have been for yrs. Keep up the good work.
Yeah it was way too much for me. This game isn't for Kazuya mains so I just left it and started playing Resident Evil or some shit where the CPU feels a lot smarter than the braindead players online playing Dragunov.
It’s honestly so sad too see feng being so broken in this game, I have yet to use him but he was my favorite character since I started in tekken 6. I’ve played against him since getting the game just a couple weeks ago and see why every one is complaining. B1 is ridiculous in this game as a panic button when you can get a guaranteed shoulder that acts as a heat activator. They need to make some serious adjustments
He's really not if you understand the match up he doesn't anything that locks you down like drag feng alisa etc most of the time when he looks like he's plus on block he's plus 1 or 2
17:35 this the stuff that blows my mind. To the person who told him to learn the match up of Xiaoyu, please by all means why don’t you show us YOUR Kazuya vs Xiaoyu matchup gameplay? Clowns I tell ya.
Everyone who says that plays top tiers and sucks the devs dry. They don't want anyone to criticise how shitty the balancing and the state of the game is.
Feng, Dragunov, Xiaoyu, and Azucena are like the bosses from the first version of Street Fighter II Champion Edition. If anyone remembers what a shitshow that was when Balrog, Vega, M. Bison and Sagat were playable boss characters before they got toned down in later versions of that game. I was around in those days at the arcades and just got DESTROYED by Sagat and M. Bison. People were only playing the boss characters, so if you pick Chun-Li or some other normal character, you were going to get your wig split. They were so OP it was ridiculous. I think these Tekken characters are pretty close to that right now!
13:03 this is why chip damage has no place in a Tekken game. Beaides characters with abusable WR moves, pressure characters are also mauling you while you block. Plus into plus, into plus, into knowledge check lol.
I was gonna play Shaheen since he was low tier and believed in the character, now everyone plays him? Guess I'll still be looking to learn Lars (love his design)
yah thats right u were laughing it shaheen when he first come out and most of the commenty the haters now look how popular he become becuse he is STRONG under rate shaheen the storm is coming wacth out world
You can see it for yourself. Slightly off axis and your combos drop. Wanna punish Nina's F1+2 with 112? If you're too far away your second jab whiffs. He does have strong wall pressure and heat but that doesn't mean he isn't inconsistent asf.
Kazuya players are some of the biggest crybabies and the biggest downplayers of Tekken 8, it's laughable. They're up there with Steve players who were like 'He's bottom 5!! He's B tier!!!' 😒
I start tekken 8 coz of ur video's. and main Kazuya i clame a destroyer rank and just keep lose even lab buttons who defeated me. every win fell's like haven 2 me. but man idk he's not very good and hard as hell... Start playing jin and fell match better. More fun im wrong? Am I missing something in the case?
I'm surprised you also included the sets that you've lost... wish you didn't let that Kazuya promo.. the joy in your face is gone after all that beating lol
As a Shaheen main, I can def say he's just a weaker Law in almost every way. But Shaheens online do a lot of fake stuff that no one knows how to play against
State of tekken 8 os so bad, game boils down to throwing out random hop kicks and launchers and hope they connect and if it doesn't just do it until it hits That is literally everyone's playstyle and its currently the meta
If this video isn't proof TMM has grown into a more tolerant player then I don't what is. Some of those match-ups would've had me ripping my shirt off and hating Tekken 8 all together.
Shaheen is strong but he's not a cancer character like the top tiers or alisa he doesn't lock you down into 50/50 All the time people just need to understand the match (and it's an easy match to learn you won't find any xio gimmicks there don't worry) than people will accept him much more than any strong character in this game
Not to much technical in tekken but, as I can see, there is no point trying to play kaz in high ranks. MainMan seems to use every tool available to counter play but it does not seem that much rewarding lol
idk why high ranks never use rage art. the move is just broken. if your back is against the wall and you get rage every single dude and their mom will do their oki 50/50 shit. and rage art beats it always. because if you don’t stop the wall pressure you die anyway and rage art puts you back into neutral you lose no health even if you trade and now you only need 1 launch for a comeback you have straight up nothing to lose by abusing it against the wall or trading vs an aggressive player
They do but it’s also very risky to do most/half the people in high ranks will launch you for a blocked rage art so that in itself makes it not worth going for in those ranks but sometimes it could be a respect thing idk
@@seanbrown7083i mean at the wall not just throwing it out like a maniac haha. from my experience it works nearly always. everybody is so focused on their 50/50 wall setup that they don’t even realize that rage art just destroys both options. look at tmm he gets your ass to the wall and starts spamming his 50/50 he would have always lost vs rage art rage art is the ultimate wall pressure fuck you button
They tend to wait for it as soon as you have rage. Especially if it's apparent they're annoying the crap out of you. Opponent will suddenly stop attacking or try and bait you into using it and expects the same if they're in rage.
@@Beforezzz i don’t mean this mid ranks rage art stuff like baiting you or something haha i mean reacting rage art for example with kazuya the iconic vortex just loses. you can’t react to his low or mid it’s impossible you have to guess but what you can react to is for any movement at all so even if he waits and just wave dashes at you you can still distinguish wave dash from any attack pressed and now rage art beats all 3 options you just wait for any attack and then you beat the vortex it’s possible i labed it for a few hours with a buddy and even he as giga legacy player was shocked how it destroys nearly all 50/50 scenarios but you need enough hp to trade a hit otherwise reacting rage art is not possible and then it becomes your launch ticket.
Kazuya just needs a little buff not a big buff but just little considering he’s already a well balanced character but his damage is so low that’s my only complaint about him.
Yikes just I will never understand winning at any cost even if it's cheap lol. Instead of fun and out playing your opponent and doing it in style. Me as a yoshi player
I feel like the balance team knows more than us. If they buff Kazuya the world would explode or something.
Right and they let Feng get away with his BS. After all, Harada does main him anyway
Of course they know more than us, they made the game how it is
If they just fixed the hitboxes on his 1, 11, ws12, df1, 31, and heat burst he would be a perfectly functional and pretty good character. Reina would still be better than him and she's strong but not like crazy OP or something. They buffed the hitbox on the left hook in his cd41 which literally no one was asking for instead of all the other fundamental tools with bad hitboxes. Makes no sense.
lmao good balance = 1 dmg combo ender
@@a.eb.a1507 yes and devil jin needed 4 nerfs for sure lmao
Bryan player: *breathes*
Everyone: Omg hes so good, what a monster.
yeh its going to be like this now
Shaheen heat is like: U HAVE A MARTINI?
Brother that’s haram, chill
Yeah only if he is Drunk But..... TO GET TO MY POINT.......You have to know your Potential and Master The Character and Strengthen your MENTAL SKILLS AS A DEDICATED COMP. PLAYED !!!!!
You are cringe as fuck for stealing Brawlbro's joke from his chat
Kazuya is a great character and I can't complain about my boy but damn these S tiers are disgusting to fight in this game.
lol he’s good not great
He would be pretty good but his damage is so low for the execution required (like Lee in tekken 7 but without the great wall-carry) and his hitboxes are bad. Like if Reina does a d4 against him, and he blocks it (-15), he cannot launch it because twin pistons whiffs 90% of the time (only hits if you're slightly to her left). Same goes for most other generic d4s if they hit from anything but point-blank. Even Bryans snake edge, twin pistons will whiff. I mean you should use ws2 there but still, twin pistons should not whiff on a blocked snake edge. Punishment is supposed to be his strong suit but his punishment is unreliable and damage is low.
@@Remorsefullyhumble and barely that.
@@tongpoo8985that is why you say Masku when you win
@@tongpoo8985 Agreed, but those are quality of life changes for the character. As a whole, the character has very strong attacks that keep in a decent spot on the tier list. I would like to see his df1 get fixed though for sure.
1:06 I sure do remember all the Leroy and Fakh when there were broken and then suddenly the drop after the nerf.
I won’t even talk about Marduk
Kazuya is such a legendary character and despite all the craziness that’s in Tekken 8, he could still hold his own in the right hands
In few hands
Yea but why would you have to be 5 times better at tekken than your Alisa opposition to win the set?
@@arda213 because some people have dignity
Too much work for very little return. That's Kazuya in a nutshell.
As someone stated already, too little reward for the execution that’s demanded of him, so why would you pick him over other characters with better damage output and better tools. I say this as a Kaz main that is really starting to see the gaslighting surrounding him with regards to Tekken 8 specifically.
15:14 Geez, how broken of a heat smash does Xiaoyu have where MainMan can block it at 50% health and still say “I’m dead” 💀
Its not her heat smash thats broken it just leads into a dangerous mix up then he was on the wall so
It’s not, just a mix up, and he either pressed or crouch on the hypnotist 2, which splats on the wall. He understood this
The most idiotic thing is characters having armor breaking moves like are you serious? With all the broken stuff and rage and heat they get THAT???!!!
the health bar just not enough for all this shit we need longer hp
armour breaking moves? only heat burst and heat smash do that
@@ScrodumHatLeo asuka jun jin all have armor breaking moves just to name a few but that is by far the least thing u have to worry about those tools are actually not that broken
@@ScrodumHat He means gaurd breaking moves dumbo.
14:36 side wall splat conversion was INSANE
Mad respect on playing high rank with Kaz
...lol Kazuya's been TMM's favorite all his life, he earned god rank with harder characters in 7 and occasionally holds his own against pros. Him sticking with Kazuya at this level shouldn't come off as a surprise.
@@Beforezzz glaze of hell
@@Beforezzz Kazuya was and is the hardest character lol
@@loveliestfawn Glazing? Not sure you got the point I was trying to make.
@@Beforezzz
Believe me he would easily have been God of Destruction 3 months ago if he played Alisa.
GoD Paul is crazy impressive holy shit
I prefer when a character like shaheen is popular, instead of seeing dragunovs everywhere
Exactly. At least Shaheen players rely on good fundamentals rather than ungabunga plus moves
@@yawarsaeed5176 right now Shaheen players rely on ugnabunga setups and knowledge checks lmao
@AshSlave1 i don't think so. You can clearly see the side steps both Shaheen players were doing getting high damage and the counter hit timings were spot on.
@@yawarsaeed5176 you can't see nothing if you ping higher than 100 dude
@@AshSlave1as a Shaheen player… kinda agree
For any Shaheeners here, his UF3 is a masku tech move just like Kazuya's F4, use in a combo or wall and follow up with B4. Use with care.
Yup. His uf3 is easily steppable.
@@Nkodtb ? Im talking about using it in a combo
"All of the top players will play these characters at evo(Drag,Ling,Feng)."
Lili won Evo
Steve won Pakistani Dojo event.
Xiaoyu barely made it into the top 50 at EVO. There were two Xiaoyu players. Contrast with 9 Fengs, 6 Victors and 4 Hwoarangs. MainMan has had a hate-boner for Ling since, well, forever.
27:25 That split-second dodge/ duck is insane
They just started giving everyone functional electrics with the safe armor heat engagers and long range hopkicks that are unpunishable at tip range.
If Shaheen is everywhere and you STILL lose it’s your fault, LAB HIM
i like how he flames the game, it almost sounds like he isn't complaining
I love watching you play against different characters specially the OP ones
I miss the 0 damage on block... Bring it back!
Its so satisfying to just only hear only dorya
Over 400k+ prowess is crazy…. They must eat and sleep Tekken 20 out of 24 hours 😂
Bedpan Gaming
I do. I have 750 hours lol
Thats probably nothing compared to tekken experts@blackheart59_
The fact that you are playing a non broken champ against broken champs and still read chat and answer is really impressive and makes those S-tier char players look even worse
I started learning Kazuya because of you, and I am absolutely loving it!
Ggs man! I was the shaheen at 09:20 mark. Had fun
Bro how do have powress of 400k + that's insane.
@@yawarsaeed5176 I have 18 characters at GoD
@@yawarsaeed5176 he has like 18 characters at God Of Destruction
@@blackheart59_dayum
Watched from start to finish good matches and hope you recover mentally, looked really tough today
😂
I wish there was a place to see how many of each charachter are in each tier. I have people telling me I'm getting carried with Jin when they play Xiaoyu, Feng, Shaheen, Azucena, Alisa, Raven etc
Jin is great but not top 5,raven is solid,nothing special,just can get away with a lot of stuff for free when the opponent doesn't know the matchup,the rest u mentioned are just a nightmare to face
@@dujekrneta7154 I'm in blue ranks so everyone is a nightmare when they spam. Raven is...weird. No matchup knowledge since I don't see him often etc. But man, all the others can just spam and get away with everything!!! It's laughable to say a Jin carried someone when he is one of the most honest along with Paul, Kazuya etc. Those characters earn their matches
@@SpyrosFougias true,fighting top tier characters makes u feel like you are playing tekken 7 and they rushed to tekken 9,i hope it will balance out with time
Don't worry, you're not carried with Jin. He's easier than he was in 7 and very strong but he's a very respectable character. Anyone playing those characters (except raven) telling you you're carried is absolutely wild
I won’t say that Jin carries people but I think he does have insanely good tools and he’s very good at just about everything tbh but he’s not on the level of those characters you mentioned. You actually have to think when you use Jin. I have trouble fighting him for some reason lol
I love that Shaheen is finally getting attention, but I also don't want him to get nerfed into the ground
As much as I hate automatically being at a disadvantage by playing against an S tier, I could live with characters like Shaheen, Kazuya, Lili, Reina etc being the S tiers, rather than characters who give you literally no counterplay options like Dragunov and Feng 🥱 like if you really want those chars to keep all their tools, at least make the DAMAGE balance appropriate for how fair/unfair the tools are.. *cough* Xiaoyu
If Xiaoyu gets a need to her damage and maybe tweak her heat mechanics and she’ll be fine keeps her evasion and oki loses damage and offense sounds fair?
@@SauceYT0300the whole point of balance is to make characters average out to being like a B overall. If you're going to have maxed out evasion and punishment tools then it's gonna have to cost you in offense.
They have no problem making Kazuya excel in oki and power strikes at the expense of poking, horrible tracking, incomplete throw game, and holding you hostage with EWGF to handle your 15f on block punishment. Why can't they do the same with all the characters?
@@SauceYT0300 Xiaoyu's damage was already nerfed in heat, and her HYP 3 is -13. She doesn't need any other changes, y'all just need to actually let your egos go and lab the matchup.
@@NYG5that’s quite literally not the point of balancing, it already does cost you in offense. She is difficult. You have to play tricks.
@@kaykier They won't. They'd rather complain and mindlessly parrot everything MainMan says.
Shaheen : Safe mid + power crush + heat engager
Kazuya : not safe power crush + not heat engager but atleast it's a mid I guess.. :\
Shaheen's is a high. Just thought I'd mention that
@@AfroKing.a lot of Shaheen’s shit is duckable. His db 1,2, his 1,2,3 jab string, his 2,3 jab string, forward 2,3, down(charged) up 2. He balances it out with his hit throws and safe launchers, though
@@j.i.nthenobody54Besides orbital which good players can react to if they're ducking, he doesn't have safe launchers. Df2 is safe but doesn't launch crouchers.
His scary mids are uf1, WR2, b2 and FCdf2. He's mostly a menace at the wall because he can mix you up with a looping guard break or a wall splatting mid that's +oB
I've been saying it since tekken 7. The moment shaheen becomes top tier, everyone is suddenly gonna play him and say he's not boring.
As a Shaheen main since Tekken 7 I don't want him to become popular and then all the toxic players pick him up and start plugging and one and done-ing
Damn TMM vs Blackheart was FIRE
❤
@@blackheart59_ mio padre totale🖤
Watching this reinforces my decision to drop T8 after 2 weeks (have 1K hours in T7, TTT and T5 for reference).
24:56 they won't. Especially Feng. He'll get away with it
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
Ngl, I’m eating good. Feng got some good shit.
What do you mean brother, he is getting nerfed in this patch
@@MrFuchus not enough he is still top 1
No they won't. They're gonna buff Jun and Feng isn't getting touched. This game is hopeless.
12:52 Ling Xiaoyu mains, we meet again 🤣🤣🤣
Remember how in every tier list he said Shaheen was honest?
For fucks sake these kazuya mains crying, he doesn’t need buffs!
Kazuya isn’t underpowered the S tiers are overpowered!
Nah he should be buffed, he’s execution heavy, high risk, no gimmick character. Everyone knows your strings, everyone knows the matchup, just to be decent with this character you need highly advanced execution, execution that most blue ranks don’t have, just to make the character somewhat competitive.
@@christoferprestipino7433 not high risk. You can go for high risk but use ff2 (safe not step-able mid) or db4 or d1+2 for lows. That is what pros or high level kazuyas do until they get a hard read.
Do not underestimate kazuyas okie and heat chip. Kazuya on wall destroys you with db 21 heat dash its pretty much easy round win. Even at tekken king people don’t know how to dodge this okie setup.
Also wtf blue kazuyas don’t have execution? Kazuya bryans and lees at these ranks are gigachads and way better than others.
@@zaimrana2746 I know blue tank Kaz’s are monsters, what I’m saying is the execution and skill required to get him there, most other players in the same ranks do not have, cause they don’t need to. Kaz works harder then any other character in the game to be effective and I think he should be more effective as a reward for all that hard work
@@christoferprestipino7433literally let kazuya do more damage maybe not tekken 7 levels of damage but atleast more than he deals now
There’s nothing better than a good ass blasting in ranked
Just got orange 🍊 rank with KAZ 😭
I’m tryna escape the orange ranks with him 😭
At least we're not LEROY 😂😂😂
@@seanbrown7083what ranks are orange? is that destroyer?
Keep grinding man, I got to battle ruler with him but it took like 600 games lmao
@@therealharringtonsteve yes that’s destroyer but rn I’m eliminator
I wish kaz’s twin pistons hand a little more range. It’s annoying when you block a snake edge and try to punish with twin pistons only to straight up miss.
Also I don’t hate Jin, I think he’s cool I just want to tone the tracking down a little bit. Feels like a lot of his sweeping animations will clip both side of side steps also trying to side step one of his heat smashes will get you pulverized.
Why would you punish snake edge with twin piston when ws2 is the better option?
@@raiaanahmed8804 sometimes I be getting nervous. I know that blocking a snake edge guarantees a WS2 but a lot of low sweeping animations characters have that aren’t true snake edges won’t guarantee that WS2 like eddy, xiou, feng, and jun.
@@raiaanahmed8804 I guess I’m more comfortable with going for a twin piston and eating whatever follows if I’m wrong but just knowing I’m getting launched if I’m wrong about a WS2 absolutely kills my motivation especially when characters are killing you off of 2 combos.
Dude fr, the amount of bryans and dragonovs you cant punish is insane with it
@@PervySage723 I don’t even try against Brian fr😂😂😂 learned that lesson the hard way.
I like seeing the heatsmash being used more
I’m at red ranks with kaz and this being my first tekken I just get knowledge checked by yoshimitsu and shaeen
Red Ranks is already pretty good
This shit is not meant for kazuya mains anymore I’m convinced . It’s hard out here. The grind is hard And the spamming is just unbearable. You give me motivation tho my boy. Have been for yrs. Keep up the good work.
Yeah it was way too much for me. This game isn't for Kazuya mains so I just left it and started playing Resident Evil or some shit where the CPU feels a lot smarter than the braindead players online playing Dragunov.
After watching this I want to quit Kazuya but can't love him too much even I loose
It’s honestly so sad too see feng being so broken in this game, I have yet to use him but he was my favorite character since I started in tekken 6. I’ve played against him since getting the game just a couple weeks ago and see why every one is complaining. B1 is ridiculous in this game as a panic button when you can get a guaranteed shoulder that acts as a heat activator. They need to make some serious adjustments
You can’t activate heat with heat engager moves during a combo. You can only do that with a heat burst
@@j.i.nthenobody54 counter hit back 1 and shoulder is guaranteed, try it
Shaheen feels like a darksouls boss
He's really not if you understand the match up he doesn't anything that locks you down like drag feng alisa etc most of the time when he looks like he's plus on block he's plus 1 or 2
This is how it felt to play gigas in t7, always an uphill battle
Its nice seeing shaheen being played
17:35 this the stuff that blows my mind. To the person who told him to learn the match up of Xiaoyu, please by all means why don’t you show us YOUR Kazuya vs Xiaoyu matchup gameplay? Clowns I tell ya.
Everyone who says that plays top tiers and sucks the devs dry. They don't want anyone to criticise how shitty the balancing and the state of the game is.
@@SnowflakeSSQ The lack any self awareness.
Feng, Dragunov, Xiaoyu, and Azucena are like the bosses from the first version of Street Fighter II Champion Edition. If anyone remembers what a shitshow that was when Balrog, Vega, M. Bison and Sagat were playable boss characters before they got toned down in later versions of that game. I was around in those days at the arcades and just got DESTROYED by Sagat and M. Bison. People were only playing the boss characters, so if you pick Chun-Li or some other normal character, you were going to get your wig split. They were so OP it was ridiculous. I think these Tekken characters are pretty close to that right now!
You Forgot Feng Wei.
I'm laughing, because now lots of people are going to know the matchup of Shaheen. That's why you keep hidden gems hidden, or be lowkey about them.
Mainman is traumatized
Poor MM one monte ago he was god supreme
13:03 this is why chip damage has no place in a Tekken game. Beaides characters with abusable WR moves, pressure characters are also mauling you while you block. Plus into plus, into plus, into knowledge check lol.
GUYS REMEMBER TMM SAID KAZ WAS OP LMAOOOO MAN HAS LOST TOUCH
He’s literally schizophrenic
Yeah Kaz is OP because you drop combos if you're slightly off axis or one nanosecond late in doing your next move.
That Bryan fight was cool
BRING ME MORE KAZUYA RANKED, KAZUYA ROAD TO G.O.D.
BlackHeart is taking alla characters to GoD, i follow him on Twitch, my Bro from Italy
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I was gonna play Shaheen since he was low tier and believed in the character, now everyone plays him? Guess I'll still be looking to learn Lars (love his design)
yah thats right u were laughing it shaheen when he first come out and most of the commenty the haters now look how popular he become becuse he is STRONG under rate shaheen the storm is coming wacth out world
Hey TheMainManSWE, could you make another video for tekken 8 on how to master the wavedash and korean backdash with Kazuya Mishima?
Count Dracula best player of kazuya in Pakistan
Lol at people complaining about how weak kazuya is, delusional players smh.
Hes not very strong man aside from insanely skilled players.
Even then kazuya cant keep up
Kazuya is strong but S tier characters coupled with high level players suddenly make him seem sewer tier.
You can see it for yourself. Slightly off axis and your combos drop. Wanna punish Nina's F1+2 with 112? If you're too far away your second jab whiffs. He does have strong wall pressure and heat but that doesn't mean he isn't inconsistent asf.
Kazuya players are some of the biggest crybabies and the biggest downplayers of Tekken 8, it's laughable. They're up there with Steve players who were like 'He's bottom 5!! He's B tier!!!' 😒
Just saw a recent video of Devilster's Kazuya...Ummm..He was looking like S++ tier. Man....lmaooo
@TheMainManSWE Are we gonna see your paul streek again?
I was literally about to pick up shaheen too cause he was nowhere at first lol. maybe time to pick up bryan
feels bad man
It was fun seeing TMM's Kazuya getting destroyed by Xiaoyu. And then listening to his lame excuses after. 😂
Might pick up kazuya for fun now
I start tekken 8 coz of ur video's. and main Kazuya i clame a destroyer rank and just keep lose even lab buttons who defeated me. every win fell's like haven 2 me. but man idk he's not very good and hard as hell... Start playing jin and fell match better. More fun im wrong? Am I missing something in the case?
I'm surprised you also included the sets that you've lost... wish you didn't let that Kazuya promo.. the joy in your face is gone after all that beating lol
I always wondered what will tiersexuals do when their characters will eventually be nerfed?
I've been a Shaheen main since Feb, not sure how I feel about the recent popularity
I never see him in red and purple ranks. Are you a higher tier? Is he more popular in high level rank?
Where can I find this music playlist?
As a Shaheen main, I can def say he's just a weaker Law in almost every way. But Shaheens online do a lot of fake stuff that no one knows how to play against
I wish it was more then just 3 matches.
Goddamn these sets are going to give me nightmares 🤦🏻♀️
Anyone know the OST playing at 28:00 when TMM is playing against Dinosaur's Bryan?
Shaheen the new tax man
Still waiting for Paul streak episode...
State of tekken 8 os so bad, game boils down to throwing out random hop kicks and launchers and hope they connect and if it doesn't just do it until it hits
That is literally everyone's playstyle and its currently the meta
In lower ranks, maybe. I ain’t seen anyone above Mighty Ruler do that shit
This is same excuse LTG always make.
Which is wrong lol
That's how most players play for some reason. I wish they grow a brain but I'm done with this game.
If this video isn't proof TMM has grown into a more tolerant player then I don't what is. Some of those match-ups would've had me ripping my shirt off and hating Tekken 8 all together.
What's the name of the song at 30:05?
Shaheen is strong but he's not a cancer character like the top tiers or alisa he doesn't lock you down into 50/50 All the time people just need to understand the match (and it's an easy match to learn you won't find any xio gimmicks there don't worry) than people will accept him much more than any strong character in this game
whats the inputs for the move he does at 0:55? The jab and kick
B24
Anyone know the name of the song at 36:13? I've heard it for so long and still don't know
Tekken 5 ground zero funk
@@popschannel2496 appreciate it 🙏
anyone know the name of the tune that starts around 6:00 ?
this rankeds can promote and down ranking? thanks
Not to much technical in tekken but, as I can see, there is no point trying to play kaz in high ranks. MainMan seems to use every tool available to counter play but it does not seem that much rewarding lol
idk why high ranks never use rage art. the move is just broken.
if your back is against the wall and you get rage every single dude and their mom will do their oki 50/50 shit. and rage art beats it always.
because if you don’t stop the wall pressure you die anyway and rage art puts you back into neutral you lose no health even if you trade and now you only need 1 launch for a comeback
you have straight up nothing to lose by abusing it against the wall or trading vs an aggressive player
They do but it’s also very risky to do most/half the people in high ranks will launch you for a blocked rage art so that in itself makes it not worth going for in those ranks but sometimes it could be a respect thing idk
@@seanbrown7083i mean at the wall not just throwing it out like a maniac haha. from my experience it works nearly always. everybody is so focused on their 50/50 wall setup that they don’t even realize that rage art just destroys both options. look at tmm he gets your ass to the wall and starts spamming his 50/50 he would have always lost vs rage art
rage art is the ultimate wall pressure fuck you button
They tend to wait for it as soon as you have rage. Especially if it's apparent they're annoying the crap out of you. Opponent will suddenly stop attacking or try and bait you into using it and expects the same if they're in rage.
@@Beforezzz i don’t mean this mid ranks rage art stuff like baiting you or something haha
i mean reacting rage art
for example with kazuya the iconic vortex just loses.
you can’t react to his low or mid it’s impossible you have to guess but what you can react to is for any movement at all
so even if he waits and just wave dashes at you you can still distinguish wave dash from any attack pressed and now rage art beats all 3 options you just wait for any attack and then you beat the vortex it’s possible i labed it for a few hours with a buddy
and even he as giga legacy player was shocked how it destroys nearly all 50/50 scenarios
but you need enough hp to trade a hit otherwise reacting rage art is not possible and then it becomes your launch ticket.
@@seanbrown7083yall should've asked what rank this guy is before responding 💀
Whatever happened to the paul streak?
It ended
This du doing strings!!!
Uploading losses . Massive respect. This is the ranked experience. For the good and for the bad
Kazuya just needs a little buff not a big buff but just little considering he’s already a well balanced character but his damage is so low that’s my only complaint about him.
What’s up with shaheen?
I don’t see him at all on orange ranks:)
He’s uncommon in general
Shaheen fucked up kazuya with a perfect
Does anyone know the name of the song that starts at 30:07?
Moonlit wilderness
@@muby102 Thank you!
Top 10 characters?
Yikes just I will never understand winning at any cost even if it's cheap lol. Instead of fun and out playing your opponent and doing it in style. Me as a yoshi player
Tough sets, but the real ones always come back for more ✊🏼. Respect to SWE!
Can anyone tell me what does kazuya say when he uses that laser beam?
If you mean [She-nay] it means die