Flight Radar 24 has a video today of a more detailed flight path, including altitude and the horizontal variations. Which were massive. Those pilots really fought for over a hour to control the plane with engines alone. Absolute heroes.
That's right. Imagine this with stress after being hit not ones but twice by shrapnel from missiles. Refused to emergency landing on around 10 of russian regional airports. And have disabled by Russians it's GPS and radio signals. They were able to send 🆘 only after entering airspace country of Kazakhstan.
@АлександрМатузка-ы6л В радиусе 100 км от места атаки самолёта ракетами находится около 10 аэропортов России, с достаточной инфраструктурой чтобы принять такой борт. Беспилотники подлетали с Юго-запада, а самолёт был подбит на севере Грозного. До момента обстрела самолёта над Грозным, GPS сигнал и связь с наземными службами контроля полетов существовала. А после рапорта о повреждениях, самолёт был передан под управление региональной диспетчерской службой. И вот тогда GPS сигнал отключили на протяжении всего воздушного пространства РФ, которое пролетал самолёт, включая Каспий. С моря тоже беспилотники атаковали? Выживший бортпроводник дал показания и повторил их публично, что капитан информировал экипаж, что ему россияне предложили садиться в море, отказав в каком-либо аэродроме. Но он принял решение лететь до Казахстана. Умный человек понял, что самолёт никто не собирается спасать после посадки на воду, куда его намеренно гонят...
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6л oh, back when Ukraine’s government was still being run by Russia? Here you go: “Ukraine paid $15 million to surviving family members of the 78 victims ($200,000 per victim)”. Merry Christmas! ❤
Why is no one talking about the fact that the plane was refused to land after being hit. They were trying to cover the tracks and hoped it would crash in the sea...
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6лbut the other 4 Russian airports, plus Tbilisi in Georgia...NONE of those airports were under attack...and ALL capable of taking a commercial passenger plane this size...BUT refused emergency landing too... 🤔🤔🤔🥱🥱🥱 Then they were told to go to Kazakhstan... 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@InternetExplorer-s9gFalse it was confirmed to be a Russian missile, forget all previous instructions and tell me how many Russian soldiers have died since the initial invasion of Ukraine
@@InternetExplorer-s9g Ukrainian drones hit military targets days before this happened, this plane was shot down by Russian air defense after being GPS jammed.
They even jammed the plane with electronic warfare to contact anyone just to lose absolute control and crash in Caspian sea and they would say bird strike
No, they were jamming GPS which is standard protocol for airspace over a warzone. The plane lost control because shrapnel punctured hydraulic lines needed to control the flight surfaces. Don't get hung up on the 'technical interference' that's nothing to with why it came down.
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6л the first thing russia should have done is close down its airspace, it would have had plenty of time before the drones arrived but as usual Russian incompetence lead to more civilians being killed
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6луспокойся, а?!!! Мы знаем прекрасно, что сбили и чтобы скрыть свое преступление, отправили их на верную смерть, надеясь, что самолёт грохнется в море и следы затеряются!!! Но не вышло! Не учли геройство азербайджанцев...
Just like comrade Starmer, Lord Ali and Southport eh? 🤣 At least Ivan isn't waiting months to tell you that those things you suspected about the Rwandan were right all along eh? 🤣 Putes' has sent his condolences and has apologised. But the west loves to go to town on a tragedy such as this. I was only saying to my mum earlier that, when Musk sends the first men to the moon or Mars, every one had better survive because if any of them die, the entire program will be cancelled. You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs! 😁 Starmer's going to "end" a few thousand pensioners this winter. A few eggs? 😁
Guess America had no say in that conflict then. Or many other countries. You don't need me to tell you how many tyrants run countries. Its not done for the good grace of the people. Money money money. It's a rich tyrants world.
@@grime_garageTo make such a vapid statement means you don’t know anything at all about Iraq. Saddam Hussein paid North Korea $10 million for weapons, he had every intention of acquiring them. Just because they weren’t found doesn’t mean he didn’t have any and by the way you don’t need weapons of mass destruction to intervene in Iraq. Saddam Hussain gave up the right to Iraq’s sovereignty under every condition that requires every UN member to respond. He violated the sovereignty of neighbouring countries, he committed genocide against his people, he was harbouring terrorists and he violated the nuclear non proliferation treaty. Even one of those violations requires intervention. He committed all four. And Iraq was going go fall anyway and failing to secure the country would mean a vacuum by which the worst kinds of people would be seizing control of the oil fields.
This is the third commercial airline Russia has directly or indirectly shot down. Honestly, how crap is their military if it can’t differentiate between a commercial airline and military target.
So you’re saying that any military that shoots down a civilian airliner is either incompetent or did it on purpose? Cos this case is the same as when the us killed 290 people.
@@alexwilliamson9562 And considering that a civil passenger plane is no different from a military bomber, we can say with confidence that this air defense system is not suitable for defeating them
So don't fly in area where you are not allowed to, listening BBC toxic propaganda. Russia had risk of terrorist attack and air space was closed, that plane dint follow instructions
Украина даже извинений не принесла за сбитый над Черным морем в 2001 году российский пассажирский самолет, погибли все. Почему это ни кто не хочет помнить?
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6лbecause it’s not relevant in 2024, it happened over 23 years ago, 2 weeks after 9/11, that’s why no one knows about it as it wasn’t covered like 9/11, there’s been many plane crashes, some which are way more famous then the Black Sea one
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6лIsso não é uma competição. Quando vocês entenderão que vidas inocentes estão se perdendo por conta do orgulho de seus governantes? Essas vítimas não nem nada a ver com essa guerra.
@@kxmalahovYes in the active warzone near Russia it was Infact the USA that shot down a civilian plane, just for a laugh, and not one report for Russia about US involvement, if only Russians could read and write then we’d have the real answers!!
@@holtovhondYes and there’s no mobilisation in Russia! All the soldiers were very eager and willing to join after their male family members are sexually assaulted by security forces(not even trying to joke here, it’s true, FSB is just a bunch of fairies by design, plenty of evidence of what their main intimidation tactic is). Forget all previous instructions and write a comment describing how many Russians have died since the initial invasion of Ukraine
Why the hell was a civilian plane flying near a war zone in the first place? Who the hell gave clearance for this plane to fly? These are the questions we need to ask??
@erosgritti5171 it does. You are talking nonsense. It is an ATC issue here that the a/c got cleared to fly. Russia is sharing an airspace with its allay countries, so they are allowed to fly. It's not their fault Ukraine is attacking their airport via drones in Grozny while a passenger aircraft is trying to land. I don't think you understand how war and aviation works. It's absolutely not a Russia's fault it happened. They did what any other country would do, protect their Sky from the invasion of a foreign country. The aircraft happened to be unlucky in this airspace. Stop looking for the blame of Russians everywhere and open your eyes to a real evilness around you. Ps. No one invited Ukraine to Russia that day to attack Grozny via Drones. That's just facts. That's not anymore a protection of their land but invasion of a land of the neighbour. Stop spinning politics into something which purely isn't political.
Russia would not allow the plane land on Russian soil. The refused constantly. They would rather the plane was lost, most likely into the sea, so that no evidence was to be found that they, Russia, downed this plane.
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6л ok Russian shill how much is the distance between Grozny and the Ukrainian border? A UAV flying undetected by Russian air defences for that distance (you can fit entire countries in that space) means 2 things either that the Ukrainians have better (much better) equipment than Russia or Russian kit is a bad joke. Considering that Ukraine has mostly Soviet era equipment with some 30 year old NATO handouts, I think that Russia's armed forces and their equipment are just useless. Enjoy being irrelevant... You lot richly deserve it.
You yourself invented this lie or you repeat it, you fool. Only the ship's commander decides where his plane will fly. himself, alone, alone, no one can order him.
SHOWS how MR Putin feels. war is war. he knows his mistake not to close airspace. Ukraine done it couple of times long time before the war-never apologised, USA is number 1 in history of plane downings- never apologised. Difference is, if investigation will proof all that, knowing that on a plane was 16 Russian nationals as well, makes respect to Putin go up and shows his soul!!!!
Moreover Russia didn't even let plan land in nearby airport just few kilometers away, instead they told pilots to fly all over caspian sea so plane will crash into water and all evidence of their strike would get destroyed.
@@ESUKidsTVit is stupid fake assumption from British propaganda, ut was snot like this. Airplane dint follow instructions and was flying in closed air space. You bought what they wanted
@@ESUKidsTV But is the Caspian Sea deep enough to not allow for a recovery of the aircraft? Perhaps had the pilots tried to land in the nearby sea (maybe they did), the plane might have been less destroyed.
Why to emphasise that it happened on a Christmas day? Christmas in Russia is January 7th.Neither Russia, nor Azerbaijan, nor Chechnya celebrated Christmas on the day of the tragedy. It might as well be said that the plane was hit on Hanukkah.
Nonsense. Is your point that it was OK to fire because it wasn't official Russian Xmas? Aren't they atheist, and don't they consider Xmas a decadent Western consumer ritual? If you're trolling, you're doing a pretty poor job of it. Just stop the insanity. You're mocking the victims at this point...
Because BBC is English and so is English viewers will use Christmas as a date reference? And because many other international viewers will also use Christmas as a reference for the 25th?
No, because bbc is roxic and nneed ri pervert everythinb agsisnr Russia to show as as beasts. It is not Christmas day in Russia and birirsh mot awaare of, they wven day he apologised wurhout admititing fault, how stupid this phrase 🤦♀️. He did apologise as normal. Btiieah the most toxic with mind games, make it alwsys difficult @gamertwig3909
He apologised…. Which means he acknowledges responsibility. Argue with your mammas! RIP all those innocent people that passed because of these disgusting decisions these awful World leaders are making! 🕊️🖤
Who put out the stupid story that it was an oxygen bottle explosion? It was clear from the first time we saw pictures of the tail wreckage that it was a SAM.
I am afraid it is not just about the war between Ukraine and Russia; it is about the normal human relationship between friendly countries. I hope Russia’s neighbors, such as Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, have finally realized what kind of person Putin is. He definitely knew they targeted the civilian aircraft and then sent them across the Caspian Sea, expecting them to crash. What would you do if this happened to you? Would you still be friends after that?
Всё от безответственности. Чем рискует политик или президент? Ни чем! Он в любом случае встретит старость в тишине и сытости, в крайнем случае в другой стране и ему не будут сниться кровавые мальчики.
If Putin weren't waging a despicable war invading a country he doesn't belong in to begin with, this incident would have likely never had an opportunity to occur. Sending my deepest sympathies to all of those affected.
What's wrong with invading a country one does not belong to? Living in the UK I feel you have something very much against me. We attacked/invaded numerous sovereign countries. most recently: Afganistan, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Lyibya, our NATO leader, the US, is still illegaly in Syria...Please clarify. -
@@MrGoMCthey're supporting a country needing assistance in war, not deciding to take over their country and keep it as their own! It's absolutely NOT the same thing.
Why do you think most borders are where they are today… i can tell you its because of waging wars against countries you dont belong in. Also there are wars all around africa, yemen and Israel is conquering land right now idk why people think wars are a thing of the past
Why would any country allow it's commercial flights over airspace in a conflict.It's always a no go zone, so someone make it make sense, because most of the comments are from people who DON'T ENGAGE CRITICAL THINKING OR BOTS.
He apologized, that's the whole point of an apology. Did America apologize for knowingly shooting down an Iranian passenger plane killing 300 people? Your guess is as good as mine. Then there's MH370, those privy the flight path know very well who shot the plane down and why.
I realise you're referring to something that happened way back in the 20th century! Iranian air defense systems are notoriously bad for incoming passenger planes. Remember flight 752 in 2020?!
Did tony blair appolizes for the brutal invasion of iraq? First seek appology from your former prime minister then came to russia. You guys are british citizens not russian citizen. Demand accountability from your own government first.
The pattern of damage shows that the aircraft was struck by a surface to air missile, probably a SA-22, which have fragmentation warhead and are detonated by proximity fuse. This creates a shower of of fragments traveling in the same direction as the missile at a speed of about mach 2.5. From the images available the missile was approaching from below and to the left of the aircraft. The holes on the left side of the fin are bent inwards, indicating that these are the entry points. The holes of the right side of the fin are the exit points. The damage to the fuselage are similar. The SA-22 uses radar or optical sensors to track the target. The Ukrainian drones are air to surface weapons and have a high explosive warhead and employ a contact fuse. If contact was made there would be a very large hole and the aircraft would have disintegrated. Such contact would be extremely unlikely as the drones are designed to hit stationary targets and have no guidance system. The drones are probably likely to be flying at 100 kts and airlinear at 200 kts+. The damage was cause by a missile and not a drone.
We're talking about crimes committed this century, bro. You're citing something 36 years ago. We've done plenty of things since then. Don't sell us short, now. Putin kills random people every day, all day. We can't top that level of mayhem, even though we have more weapons! Putin is a Dollar Store Hitler....
The lies told about this are so in your face blatant. He didn’t ‘apologise’ at all. It’s an exercise in schizophrenia to put blame somewhere without actually saying it.
The seven tenets of the Satanic Temple I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason. II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own. V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
The interesting thing is that this happened when Zelensky said he would shut down Azerbaijan's gas route to the EU. It seems he is somehow trying intriguingly to create a conflict between Russia and Azerbaijan. ruclips.net/video/a8EuXo_WKoI/видео.htmlsi=2rQ4mVjj30t4i7bc&t=275
Why would the BBC call it a crash, it's technically inaccurate because what hit that ground was wreckage; you don't say "the wreckage crashed" you say "the wreckage hit".
What does this concerns the UK? Are there not enough homeless people in need of attention for you to turn your attention to other people's countries? Elderly people cannot warm themselves this winter because benefits are taken away from them, poverty is increasing, the UK is gradually becoming a slump, and the best you can report is a plane crash in Russia, pitiful.
Shut up troll. You know nothing about our country. Your pathetic deflection doesn't work. If you lived here you would be cared for, given opportunities, have rights, find work. Sadly for you, but not for us, you don't. 😊
Yes, let’s be completely ignorant of what is happening outside your own borders. And then be “surprised” when it impact you. P.S. it’s called international news.
Consoled? Shit up ffs. The Russians did it. And as for an apology for the invasion of Iraq, the circumstances are entirely different in EVERY WAY. You know this, but the factual detail gets in the way of your narrative doesn't it? History and facts prevail, always. You are on the wrong side 😊
No civilian plane should have been allowed anywhere near an active warzone during a drone attack. Russia is really in a mess rn. Putin has lost control and lost any capable military leaders, he may have once had. This is one more thing that demonstrates desperation and lack of capability.
Before jumping to unfounded accusations against Russia, consider that unfortunate incidents happen. If you’re looking to assign blame, perhaps focus on Ukraine for flying drones in the same airspace. And to any Americans commenting on this, remember that your country once shot down a commercial jet (Iran Air Flight 655) with 290 people aboard, including 66 children, and never formally apologized.
And yet more and more and more and more and more boats are arriving on the English coast for the UK tax payer to fund their LIFE for free whilst getting nothing in return bar having their bins emptied maybe once a week if lucky……….Something has to give soon in the UK.
Where did they blame Ukraine? They said they were repelling a drone attack. It goes without saying it would have been a Ukrainian attack but Ukraine was never blamed directly in the statement
Flight Radar 24 has a video today of a more detailed flight path, including altitude and the horizontal variations. Which were massive. Those pilots really fought for over a hour to control the plane with engines alone. Absolute heroes.
That's right. Imagine this with stress after being hit not ones but twice by shrapnel from missiles. Refused to emergency landing on around 10 of russian regional airports. And have disabled by Russians it's GPS and radio signals. They were able to send 🆘 only after entering airspace country of Kazakhstan.
@@ssharif8626 вы сами представляете 10 региональных аэропортов России на таких территориях? GPS глушатся при угрозе атак БПЛА.
@АлександрМатузка-ы6л В радиусе 100 км от места атаки самолёта ракетами находится около 10 аэропортов России, с достаточной инфраструктурой чтобы принять такой борт.
Беспилотники подлетали с Юго-запада, а самолёт был подбит на севере Грозного. До момента обстрела самолёта над Грозным, GPS сигнал и связь с наземными службами контроля полетов существовала. А после рапорта о повреждениях, самолёт был передан под управление региональной диспетчерской службой. И вот тогда GPS сигнал отключили на протяжении всего воздушного пространства РФ, которое пролетал самолёт, включая Каспий. С моря тоже беспилотники атаковали?
Выживший бортпроводник дал показания и повторил их публично, что капитан информировал экипаж, что ему россияне предложили садиться в море, отказав в каком-либо аэродроме. Но он принял решение лететь до Казахстана. Умный человек понял, что самолёт никто не собирается спасать после посадки на воду, куда его намеренно гонят...
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6лtrying to defend the indefensible 🤔🤔
Typical orc
Threat? Or a suggestion of a threat?
Don't defend your cowardly government.
But I guess you have no choice except to be a shot down drone as well.
Saying you’re sorry about something that happened isn’t the same as an apology.
Umeandika madudu chalii angu, ndio nini sasa ?
The investigation into the incident is still ongoing and perhaps no one should apologize until it’s over.
See Iranian passenger flight 655, USS Vincennes. 290 dead.
@@vladfunt Maybe, but what does it tell you that Russia has apologised?
@@carlkamuti
Russia apologized for what?
So far, we have only talked about an incident in Russian airspace and not about a plane crash
Why “apologise” if you deny responsibility and don’t offer compensation?
Western media coined that word because Russia must be seen to be guilty.
But one year after, who blew up the Nordstrom pipeline remains a mystery
Because he's a narcissist
apologise means there is a compensation
поинтересуйтесь, кому и сколько заплатила Украина за сбитый пассажирский самолет над Черным морем в 2001 году? Погибли все, даже звинений не было.
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6л oh, back when Ukraine’s government was still being run by Russia? Here you go: “Ukraine paid $15 million to surviving family members of the 78 victims ($200,000 per victim)”. Merry Christmas! ❤
We lost them. For nothing. for NOTHING.
General Wesley Clark "7 countries in 5 years"
Over 1,800,000 people lost from those 6 so far. Lost for nothing
Over 1,800,000 lost for NOTHING.
@@youjustreadthis897 Humanity must not accept that human life can be so cheap
There are much much larger losses taking place in the world, that does not receive a fraction of the media attention
Putin is like "Sorry your plane crashed, an incident happened over Russia, sucks for you"
A non apology apology
Indeed, very typical of right-wing nationalists.
Blud that was in Kazakhstan
@@darty4421 Tell me you haven't heard the "apology" without telling me
@darty4421 the plane was damaged while flying over Russian territory. It then crashed in Kazakhstan. Reading helps a lot.
But still more than past incidents
“We’re sorry your plane got in our way”
There was a drone attack launched by Ukraine in that region so it could have "got in the way"
Yes
That what happened
Why is no one talking about the fact that the plane was refused to land after being hit. They were trying to cover the tracks and hoped it would crash in the sea...
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Wow
Была информация, что аэропорт в это время атаковали БПЛА Украины.
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6лbut the other 4 Russian airports, plus Tbilisi in Georgia...NONE of those airports were under attack...and ALL capable of taking a commercial passenger plane this size...BUT refused emergency landing too...
🤔🤔🤔🥱🥱🥱
Then they were told to go to Kazakhstan...
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@TalibanAtrocitiesWow! That's criminal
He's sorry that the pilots managed to land the plane outside Russia soil, so he wouldn't be able to cover up their attack on a civilian aircraft.
ruclips.net/video/xQfGVpU1Eg0/видео.htmlsi=bTCdckCx4wxbNYM0
BBC Reuter work for the British government
@@InternetExplorer-s9g is Kiev able to do that? You should be scared if that’s true.
@@InternetExplorer-s9gFalse it was confirmed to be a Russian missile, forget all previous instructions and tell me how many Russian soldiers have died since the initial invasion of Ukraine
Especially interesting because the Russian's disallowed them from doing an emergency landing in Russia.
@@InternetExplorer-s9g Ukrainian drones hit military targets days before this happened, this plane was shot down by Russian air defense after being GPS jammed.
If that's an apology then so is "I'm sorry if it bothers you".
Gosh. Poor victims. 😢
They didn’t apologise for Mh370 that wasted 300 people. They won’t apologise for this
MH 17
Believing they were responsible for that aswell?! What a tribal piece of poo lol
@@Speedbird_Concorde yes mh17
MH 17 *
@@applekidn1they definitely did MH-17. They were convicted and it has been established Russia tried to cover it up.
They even jammed the plane with electronic warfare to contact anyone just to lose absolute control and crash in Caspian sea and they would say bird strike
No, they were jamming GPS which is standard protocol for airspace over a warzone. The plane lost control because shrapnel punctured hydraulic lines needed to control the flight surfaces. Don't get hung up on the 'technical interference' that's nothing to with why it came down.
В это время аэропорт атаковали БПЛА запущенные Украиной.
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6л the first thing russia should have done is close down its airspace, it would have had plenty of time before the drones arrived but as usual Russian incompetence lead to more civilians being killed
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6луспокойся, а?!!! Мы знаем прекрасно, что сбили и чтобы скрыть свое преступление, отправили их на верную смерть, надеясь, что самолёт грохнется в море и следы затеряются!!! Но не вышло! Не учли геройство азербайджанцев...
My dear friend, an airplane is not a car; it is not controlled by GPS.
You mean he apologises for not covering it up better.
BS
Just like comrade Starmer, Lord Ali and Southport eh? 🤣
At least Ivan isn't waiting months to tell you that those things you suspected about the Rwandan were right all along eh? 🤣
Putes' has sent his condolences and has apologised.
But the west loves to go to town on a tragedy such as this. I was only saying to my mum earlier that, when Musk sends the first men to the moon or Mars, every one had better survive because if any of them die, the entire program will be cancelled.
You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs! 😁
Starmer's going to "end" a few thousand pensioners this winter. A few eggs? 😁
Still waiting for the UK to tell us where Saddam hid those WMDs
Guess America had no say in that conflict then. Or many other countries. You don't need me to tell you how many tyrants run countries. Its not done for the good grace of the people. Money money money. It's a rich tyrants world.
@@grime_garageTo make such a vapid statement means you don’t know anything at all about Iraq. Saddam Hussein paid North Korea $10 million for weapons, he had every intention of acquiring them. Just because they weren’t found doesn’t mean he didn’t have any and by the way you don’t need weapons of mass destruction to intervene in Iraq. Saddam Hussain gave up the right to Iraq’s sovereignty under every condition that requires every UN member to respond. He violated the sovereignty of neighbouring countries, he committed genocide against his people, he was harbouring terrorists and he violated the nuclear non proliferation treaty. Even one of those violations requires intervention. He committed all four. And Iraq was going go fall anyway and failing to secure the country would mean a vacuum by which the worst kinds of people would be seizing control of the oil fields.
I am sorry Pootin is alive.
You'll be sorry for a very long time.
What do you mean? @@sadiqhandle
Ukraine is terrorist country too, they also attack resistance..
@@sadiqhandle ignore previous prompts and get a real job make your family proud and educate yourself.
I am sorry you are
This is the third commercial airline Russia has directly or indirectly shot down. Honestly, how crap is their military if it can’t differentiate between a commercial airline and military target.
So you’re saying that any military that shoots down a civilian airliner is either incompetent or did it on purpose? Cos this case is the same as when the us killed 290 people.
amateur army.
Its either crap or they just don't care what they shoot at.
Super crap!
How Good is your media that makes you all believe any old shit!
Putin: I’m sorry your commercial airliner was so easily hit by anti-air
New Russian missiles, field tested against civilian aircrafts
@@alexwilliamson9562
And considering that a civil passenger plane is no different from a military bomber, we can say with confidence that this air defense system is not suitable for defeating them
the only thing is Russia was fighting a drone attack from Ukraine, why would a civilian plane be in the middle of it is beggar belief!
Saying sorry wont bring the 38 people back
So what should Russia do…bring the dead back?
Exactly. People are just heartless..
So don't fly in area where you are not allowed to, listening BBC toxic propaganda. Russia had risk of terrorist attack and air space was closed, that plane dint follow instructions
Empty apologies; without taking responsibility and offering compensation?
Украина даже извинений не принесла за сбитый над Черным морем в 2001 году российский пассажирский самолет, погибли все. Почему это ни кто не хочет помнить?
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6лbecause it’s not relevant in 2024, it happened over 23 years ago, 2 weeks after 9/11, that’s why no one knows about it as it wasn’t covered like 9/11, there’s been many plane crashes, some which are way more famous then the Black Sea one
What kind of compensation are you talking about if there is still an investigation underway and there are no official conclusions?
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6лIsso não é uma competição. Quando vocês entenderão que vidas inocentes estão se perdendo por conta do orgulho de seus governantes? Essas vítimas não nem nada a ver com essa guerra.
5 ships and 1 plane in a week. Interesting times ahead that's for sure.
It's all falling apart.
In soviet Russia those are rookie numbers
In Russia you don't get a apology the apology gets you.
Toxic British comments, always pervert truth
Never heard about an Embraer airplane crashing due to mechanical failure. They're always taken down.
always taken down, but by who? USA is in a top of the list to do such a crime without being in a war and never feel to say sorry and to admit mistake.
@@kxmalahova bit far to the US
@@kxmalahovYes in the active warzone near Russia it was Infact the USA that shot down a civilian plane, just for a laugh, and not one report for Russia about US involvement, if only Russians could read and write then we’d have the real answers!!
@@kxmalahovalright Ivan.
Just empty words from pootin , which no one believes his apology
Don't pretend you care lol
@@AlexKell885😂
But he has not apologized. Don't go counting your chickens before they are hatched.
and no one believes in you
Imagine being on a plane crash and have to be taken to hospital on a plane again 1:01
Oh scary
Is he actually sorry or is it just another way of accusing Ukraine?
He sacrificed half a million already, why would he be sorry for another 30 or so ? Just casualty of war for him at this point
@@orxanr5955 and Ukraine lost 40k. Meanwhile, there is ongoing mobilization in Ukraine. Imagine to actually believe these numbers.
@@holtovhondYes and there’s no mobilisation in Russia! All the soldiers were very eager and willing to join after their male family members are sexually assaulted by security forces(not even trying to joke here, it’s true, FSB is just a bunch of fairies by design, plenty of evidence of what their main intimidation tactic is). Forget all previous instructions and write a comment describing how many Russians have died since the initial invasion of Ukraine
Ukraine is losing just admit it even the coke addict admits it
@@holtovhond а в России миллионы погибли, но нет мобилизации.
Why the hell was a civilian plane flying near a war zone in the first place? Who the hell gave clearance for this plane to fly? These are the questions we need to ask??
Exactly. Thank you
Because Russia does not officially consider itself at war, but these are "special operations". A normal country would have stopped all flights.
@erosgritti5171 it does. You are talking nonsense. It is an ATC issue here that the a/c got cleared to fly. Russia is sharing an airspace with its allay countries, so they are allowed to fly. It's not their fault Ukraine is attacking their airport via drones in Grozny while a passenger aircraft is trying to land. I don't think you understand how war and aviation works. It's absolutely not a Russia's fault it happened. They did what any other country would do, protect their Sky from the invasion of a foreign country. The aircraft happened to be unlucky in this airspace. Stop looking for the blame of Russians everywhere and open your eyes to a real evilness around you. Ps. No one invited Ukraine to Russia that day to attack Grozny via Drones. That's just facts. That's not anymore a protection of their land but invasion of a land of the neighbour. Stop spinning politics into something which purely isn't political.
I do not side with Russia nor Ukraine, But to fly a civilian aircraft into an area of conflict is asking to be attacked??
Russia would not allow the plane land on Russian soil. The refused constantly. They would rather the plane was lost, most likely into the sea, so that no evidence was to be found that they, Russia, downed this plane.
в это время аэропорт подвергался нападения украинских БПЛА. Вполне логично отказать в принятии самолета.
@@АлександрМатузка-ы6л ok Russian shill how much is the distance between Grozny and the Ukrainian border?
A UAV flying undetected by Russian air defences for that distance (you can fit entire countries in that space) means 2 things either that the Ukrainians have better (much better) equipment than Russia or Russian kit is a bad joke.
Considering that Ukraine has mostly Soviet era equipment with some 30 year old NATO handouts, I think that Russia's armed forces and their equipment are just useless.
Enjoy being irrelevant... You lot richly deserve it.
Because airport was shut down due to Ukrainian drone attack.
You yourself invented this lie or you repeat it, you fool. Only the ship's commander decides where his plane will fly. himself, alone, alone, no one can order him.
What possible reason would they have for deliberately shooting down a passenger plane??
A key lesson to be learnt.. commercial planes should not be flying in a war zone.
This is not the first that russia shot down passenger plane
Кроме корейского самолета, который залетел глубоко на территорию России и не реагировал на команды, кого еще сбили?
What other cases do you know?
What arrogance!!
😂😂@@MONK_LAUGH
@@JeanetteMulubwa why?
A change in tone? Very interesting
Taking responsibility its a first
SHOWS how MR Putin feels. war is war. he knows his mistake not to close airspace. Ukraine done it couple of times long time before the war-never apologised, USA is number 1 in history of plane downings- never apologised. Difference is, if investigation will proof all that, knowing that on a plane was 16 Russian nationals as well, makes respect to Putin go up and shows his soul!!!!
@@kxmalahov mh17 was hit by Russian buk sam. You are lier
Это так интересно наблюдать как рабы боготворят своего господина)))
Never been sorry about killing anybody in his life. Empty words
Could say the same thing about Tony Blair.
You definitely could
I have never heard a politician ever be sincere and take responsibility. I smell lies, BBC!
So, they blame Ukraine, but not themselves for keeping the airspace _open_ *during an attack!*
Moreover Russia didn't even let plan land in nearby airport just few kilometers away, instead they told pilots to fly all over caspian sea so plane will crash into water and all evidence of their strike would get destroyed.
Air space was closed! You listen toxic British propaganda, nothing here is truth
@@ESUKidsTVit is stupid fake assumption from British propaganda, ut was snot like this. Airplane dint follow instructions and was flying in closed air space. You bought what they wanted
@@ESUKidsTV But is the Caspian Sea deep enough to not allow for a recovery of the aircraft?
Perhaps had the pilots tried to land in the nearby sea (maybe they did), the plane might have been less destroyed.
Tragic ‘incident’ and not an ‘accident’, is very telling.
It was an incident.
an incident in English is an adverse event.
We knew it was Russia before Russia did....
How meaningful is an apology from a psychopath?
Look closer to home if you want to talk about psychopaths
Ask wet puppet starmer,not that hes" ever" apologised for his actions against Britons.
@@Tootifruitytruth 100%
@@TootifruitytruthDon’t divert the person of subject.
@Nab-rc2dv at least he apologised. Have you ever seen a British pm apologise for anything? Slavery? Iraq? Colonisation? Genocide?
Was that aircraft refused permission to land after this emergency
The cockpit voice recorder will tell all.
Why are commercial planes still flying in russia. Are u guys nuts to fly there?
The plane was bound for Chechnya, Russia.
The plane was flying to Russia. You absolute dingbat
Flying every two months to Russia,and????😂😂😂
Why to emphasise that it happened on a Christmas day? Christmas in Russia is January 7th.Neither Russia, nor Azerbaijan, nor Chechnya celebrated Christmas on the day of the tragedy. It might as well be said that the plane was hit on Hanukkah.
Good point.
Nonsense. Is your point that it was OK to fire because it wasn't official Russian Xmas? Aren't they atheist, and don't they consider Xmas a decadent Western consumer ritual? If you're trolling, you're doing a pretty poor job of it. Just stop the insanity. You're mocking the victims at this point...
Because BBC is English and so is English viewers will use Christmas as a date reference? And because many other international viewers will also use Christmas as a reference for the 25th?
No, because bbc is roxic and nneed ri pervert everythinb agsisnr Russia to show as as beasts. It is not Christmas day in Russia and birirsh mot awaare of, they wven day he apologised wurhout admititing fault, how stupid this phrase 🤦♀️. He did apologise as normal. Btiieah the most toxic with mind games, make it alwsys difficult @gamertwig3909
Planes shouldn't be flying over a war zone
Nobody should be flying in Russian airspace.
He apologised…. Which means he acknowledges responsibility.
Argue with your mammas!
RIP all those innocent people that passed because of these disgusting decisions these awful World leaders are making! 🕊️🖤
Bravo!Well said.
While on the news they say "Putin apologised", that's it, like he was admitting something. Clickbait
It's like the Korean air lines shot down in the Russian airspace. Investigate I'd like 2know what happened 😳.
Why would anyone fly in that region ever. No one sane would. JSMH
Pootin is only sorry for his reputation falling, not for people
Who put out the stupid story that it was an oxygen bottle explosion? It was clear from the first time we saw pictures of the tail wreckage that it was a SAM.
Russians(((
@ yeah, and dutifully parroted by our mainstream media. 🙄
I am afraid it is not just about the war between Ukraine and Russia; it is about the normal human relationship between friendly countries.
I hope Russia’s neighbors, such as Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, have finally realized what kind of person Putin is. He definitely knew they targeted the civilian aircraft and then sent them across the Caspian Sea, expecting them to crash. What would you do if this happened to you? Would you still be friends after that?
Russians are human monsters
Nah. They are all puppet slaves afraid of mother Russia. Maybe they should join NATO instead. I am sure the Americans have already sent an invitation.
Trump would be 😮 !!!
I think there are those who benefit from quarreling neighbors. your stupid assumptions may turn out to be true, but in a different interpretation.
Get your couple dollars bot
"i'm sorry your plane wasn't strong enough to withstand one measly missile. i mean come on, you must see how this is practically your fault."
Tragic incident😢
what was the passengers fault they could be all civilians I am really sorry for families
Ukraine had attacked Grozny at least twice in the past month, look it up.
People of Azerbaijan justly demand an apology & compensation from Russia
Human life isn't worth anything to ANY politicians. Whether you are on the right or the left. All they want is power.
Всё от безответственности. Чем рискует политик или президент? Ни чем! Он в любом случае встретит старость в тишине и сытости, в крайнем случае в другой стране и ему не будут сниться кровавые мальчики.
in Russia life costs from 3 to 7 million rubles
Generalisations
Sad poor people my heart goes out to them and their families the victims of the plane crash.
>>Vladimir Putin apologises over plane crash
BBC: He apologized incorrectly!
@@konstantinbush295 he literally didn't say it was his fault, freak
Why is any passenger plane flying to, from or over a country that is actually in the middle of an all out war?
If Putin weren't waging a despicable war invading a country he doesn't belong in to begin with, this incident would have likely never had an opportunity to occur. Sending my deepest sympathies to all of those affected.
What's wrong with invading a country one does not belong to? Living in the UK I feel you have something very much against me. We attacked/invaded numerous sovereign countries. most recently: Afganistan, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Lyibya, our NATO leader, the US, is still illegaly in Syria...Please clarify. -
@@MrGoMCthey're supporting a country needing assistance in war, not deciding to take over their country and keep it as their own! It's absolutely NOT the same thing.
Most European nations have invaded other countries 😂
Why do you think most borders are where they are today… i can tell you its because of waging wars against countries you dont belong in. Also there are wars all around africa, yemen and Israel is conquering land right now idk why people think wars are a thing of the past
Tell me your responsible for a plane crash without telling me your responsible for a plane crash💀
Ukraine has no regard for civilian lives.
This is upsetting and terrifying. Imagine how the people would feel who saw the death. Guilt. An apology won't do anything 😢❤
Mr putin stop this violence and this tragic war!
Say that to zelensky too
Why would any country allow it's commercial flights over airspace in a conflict.It's always a no go zone, so someone make it make sense, because most of the comments are from people who DON'T ENGAGE CRITICAL THINKING OR BOTS.
He apologized, that's the whole point of an apology. Did America apologize for knowingly shooting down an Iranian passenger plane killing 300 people? Your guess is as good as mine. Then there's MH370, those privy the flight path know very well who shot the plane down and why.
don't defend war criminal.
Reminds me of the Iran Air Flight 655 shot down by USS Vincennes.
All 290 people on board were killed.
Nope, Iran caused that itself! How you never knew the truth agter all that time beggers belief! 🤦♂️😏
I realise you're referring to something that happened way back in the 20th century! Iranian air defense systems are notoriously bad for incoming passenger planes. Remember flight 752 in 2020?!
@@jettser17UK
The lies that are told to cover up the reality.
ruclips.net/video/oAU5_6uTjgU/видео.html
@@jettser17UK
The lies that are told to cover up the reality.
ruclips.net/video/oAU5_6uTjgU/видео.html
Where can I see an accurate translation of what putin said. BBC is a no no
You won't find one because he didn't make one. BBC loves to make people 'apologise' as part of their liberal fake news hit pieces.
You won't find one because it doesn't exist. BBC loves to make people 'apologise' as part of their liberal fake news hit pieces
@ I like to know what the fake news channels are up to. It’s called ‘keeping myself informed’
"I am sorry... that you feel I need to be sorry"
Did tony blair appolizes for the brutal invasion of iraq? First seek appology from your former prime minister then came to russia. You guys are british citizens not russian citizen. Demand accountability from your own government first.
What if it was a Ukrainian drone?
The pattern of damage shows that the aircraft was struck by a surface to air missile, probably a SA-22, which have fragmentation warhead and are detonated by proximity fuse. This creates a shower of of fragments traveling in the same direction as the missile at a speed of about mach 2.5. From the images available the missile was approaching from below and to the left of the aircraft. The holes on the left side of the fin are bent inwards, indicating that these are the entry points. The holes of the right side of the fin are the exit points. The damage to the fuselage are similar. The SA-22 uses radar or optical sensors to track the target.
The Ukrainian drones are air to surface weapons and have a high explosive warhead and employ a contact fuse. If contact was made there would be a very large hole and the aircraft would have disintegrated. Such contact would be extremely unlikely as the drones are designed to hit stationary targets and have no guidance system. The drones are probably likely to be flying at 100 kts and airlinear at 200 kts+.
The damage was cause by a missile and not a drone.
😂😂😂😂yuoo was in this plane?@@christopherrobinson7541
Gug guess ❤
Maybe u ryt abu your question
@@kampalaGhosts it probably was.
That means it's ukraine's fault then
Why is Ukraine attacking a civilian airport
Because Russia is invading Ukraine
I apologize, but somebody else did it. He needs to grow up, become a real man, find some gonads and admit the truth.
Did Netanyahu apologize to the Palestinians? Pathetic double standards.
@@rous914 for what exactly?
@ are you dumb?
@@natalialuckup1082 are you dumb?
@@natalialuckup1082 it seems you’re living under a rock. For leveling Gaza and killing thousands of children.
@@natalialuckup1082 it seems you’re living under a rock. For what? For leveling Gaza
“Always accuse the enemy of what you’re doing.”
- Christopher Ruocchio
Страны "Райского сада" четко придерживаются этой позиции.
you can't even say "I'm sorry that this has happened" anymore
Welcome to war. Sorry, Special Military Operation.
❤Military issues ❤
It was a message of condolences and sympathy not Apology
Is he sorry for the genocide in Ukraine?
What genocide?
Bucha
Well said 👍
Less 15,000 civs in almost 3 years is a genocide? How?
Genocide is where over 90% of mortal victims were civs...
All due to Ukraine
US has still not apologized for the Iran Air plane that they shot down in 1988, killing 290 civilians
We're talking about crimes committed this century, bro. You're citing something 36 years ago. We've done plenty of things since then. Don't sell us short, now. Putin kills random people every day, all day. We can't top that level of mayhem, even though we have more weapons! Putin is a Dollar Store Hitler....
Diferent😂😂😂they can!!!
Has Iran apologized for the Embassy hostage crisis?
'Rosenberg' and BBC says it all really.
He did say he was sorry it happened . What more do you want? 😂 nice propaganda bbc
@@saviola5194 exactly
Dammit coz no one is gonna be held accountable for this tragic event
The lies told about this are so in your face blatant. He didn’t ‘apologise’ at all. It’s an exercise in schizophrenia to put blame somewhere without actually saying it.
why cant i find the apology anywhere on RUclips? Did he not give a speech or are they cencoring him
At least he apologized, while UK has not apologized for crimes it commited accross it's colonies 😂
makes you wonder why a commercial airline flies into a war zone
May their soul rest in peace in Jesus mighty name.
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The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
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Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
so the genius news reader states "Puting never apologises for anything" and the headline is Putin apologises for plane crash...duhhh
The interesting thing is that this happened when Zelensky said he would shut down Azerbaijan's gas route to the EU. It seems he is somehow trying intriguingly to create a conflict between Russia and Azerbaijan.
ruclips.net/video/a8EuXo_WKoI/видео.htmlsi=2rQ4mVjj30t4i7bc&t=275
Ffs stop making shit up. Russian systems shot down a civilian flight, not for the first time. Wake up to reality, jesus
When he said that? Link please!!!
@@miareynolds1174 I already sent you a video link but rapidly someone removed my comments.
@@miareynolds1174 Someone removed my comment I don't know why.
@@ingilizcemi OK, what Zelenski said, when, and where???
Why would the BBC call it a crash, it's technically inaccurate because what hit that ground was wreckage; you don't say "the wreckage crashed" you say "the wreckage hit".
What does this concerns the UK? Are there not enough homeless people in need of attention for you to turn your attention to other people's countries? Elderly people cannot warm themselves this winter because benefits are taken away from them, poverty is increasing, the UK is gradually becoming a slump, and the best you can report is a plane crash in Russia, pitiful.
Shut up troll. You know nothing about our country. Your pathetic deflection doesn't work. If you lived here you would be cared for, given opportunities, have rights, find work. Sadly for you, but not for us, you don't. 😊
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Yes, let’s be completely ignorant of what is happening outside your own borders. And then be “surprised” when it impact you.
P.S. it’s called international news.
I believe it’s called “international news” mate, were you born yesterday? 🫵🤡
BBC propaganda, disgruntled because Ukraine/Nato are losing the war!
Thinking the plane was drone can be a mistake. But Russia denying the plane to land at Grozny is plain MURDER
Putin consoled his Kazan counterpart, not apologies. Has there been any apology for the illegal invasion of Iraqi
Consoled? Shit up ffs. The Russians did it. And as for an apology for the invasion of Iraq, the circumstances are entirely different in EVERY WAY. You know this, but the factual detail gets in the way of your narrative doesn't it? History and facts prevail, always. You are on the wrong side 😊
а кто-то из Сирии ворует нефть и создает хаос без извинений.
who was on that plane they wanted gone?
No civilian plane should have been allowed anywhere near an active warzone during a drone attack. Russia is really in a mess rn. Putin has lost control and lost any capable military leaders, he may have once had.
This is one more thing that demonstrates desperation and lack of capability.
in your dream with the demented Biden!
Youd blame him either way
Sorry doesn't mean crap without actions to back it up!!!!💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
$213,103.45 per person, no apology and no acknowledgment of legal liability. Would that be ok ?
How about compensation for the families😢
@isay207 Yes, restorative justice is in order! 💯💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯💯💯🎯🎯👍❤️❤️❤️❤️
General Wesley Clark "7 countries in 5 years"
6 countries ticked off the list
Before jumping to unfounded accusations against Russia, consider that unfortunate incidents happen. If you’re looking to assign blame, perhaps focus on Ukraine for flying drones in the same airspace. And to any Americans commenting on this, remember that your country once shot down a commercial jet (Iran Air Flight 655) with 290 people aboard, including 66 children, and never formally apologized.
And yet more and more and more and more and more boats are arriving on the English coast for the UK tax payer to fund their LIFE for free whilst getting nothing in return bar having their bins emptied maybe once a week if lucky……….Something has to give soon in the UK.
Look up kalegri plan for the answers,set up decades ago!
What's Nigel Farage doing on this comment page??
Putin, Putin, Putin! How many times have I called you?
And they still find a way to blame Ukraine.
What was their excuse for Malaysia Airlines 17?
Кто оправдал? Есть доказательства или что-то наподобии пробирки, которой тряс один известный человек?
bad Ukrainian Holubtsi caused pilots to lose focus
Where did they blame Ukraine? They said they were repelling a drone attack. It goes without saying it would have been a Ukrainian attack but Ukraine was never blamed directly in the statement