@@MoulderingMortal what kind of logic is that? it's the same logic cheaters use to hide their affairs. so whether she's innocent or not doesn't matter. it's that he has doubts and if she wants those doubts erased it's as simple as taking a paternity test.
@@MoulderingMortal like I said, she refused to check her sister immediately after she said what she said. Thats what caused the doubt. The fact that OP didnt address her right then & there.
00:43 "We've got two kids, Max, five months and Leila, three feet." 01:37 "Max, my little chatterbox, was running around telling anyone who would listen about his latest science project." WOW! Max must have been quite a prodigy. At five months, he's running around, talking, and doing a science project! Then there's Leila, THREE FEET! LOL LOL LOL
I think the post was (5M) and (3F) for reddit bullshit of male and female, and the bad ai tts turned into months and feet because it though it meant that or something.
Anxiety and fears can be completely irrational. Even if a man believes that a child is theirs, the moment someone says otherwise, it creates a seed of doubt. The anxiety can be irrational, but that doesn’t mean you can just “get over it”. People go to counseling for years to overcome fear and anxiety.
Imagine knowing a solution to your problem and just not doing it bc “I don’t want to, but you fix it”. That alone should’ve been a reason to leave imo.
Sounds real logical on paper, but nothing could be more stupid than to destroy a marriage on a malicious comment made by someone you don't even respect or like! Believe me, my 1st instinct would be to leave j/b of the doubt getting from the hubby! The insult is palpable, but you can be in the right, but to break up a longstanding marriage over it is insane once you think hard over a period of years as you look back "why did I do this?" ;-(
@@mimibee409 That's the emotional response which I understand, but you're probably giving what others want when you break up! You fell into their trap! ;-)
OP doesn't understand: Once a thought is in your head, you can't just will it to be erased. Her indignation that her husband would "dare" to have doubts is honestly just unrealistic expectation. Should she have had to prove herself? In an ideal world, no. In an ideal world, your spouse has complete blind faith with never a doubt. But in the real world, where spouses are betrayed on the regular, it's not unreasonable for a doubt to arise from a situation like this. And addressing those doubts before they fester is the better path, rather than letting things fester while nursing your indignation about having your faithfulness questioned. Trust sometimes needs to be verified.
I heard this story the other day but with OP being male and his wife tried to persuade him to take a paternity test to stop the rumour started by his sister. He kept refusing saying he didn't need a paternity test but it was causing his wife problems so in the end he had one. Personally I don't get the reluctance to get a paternity test, I have no problem with them, the question of trust is another issue but paternity tests should be a given. Frankly OP comes across as a perpetual liar for convenience. She lied to everyone and hid her true feelings, really healthy in a relationship
I don't agree with this.We should normalize paternity tests. I understand her point. But women have the advantage of knowing who their baby is because it comes out of them. Us men don't get that. I don't want to unpack my entire views on this. But most men nowadays are under the same consensus... normalize paternity tests. They should also be done before the child is born, and the man is asked to sign the birth certificate.
Nate is weak. One comment from a family member KNOWN to lie and cause drama, and he couldn't let that one comment go?? He up ended his relationship over blatant bs he could've checked on his but wanted a "confession" from OP/her blessing to go for the test. "What if she knows something we dont?" And what could she know that OP, the birth mom, wouldn't?? If it was sk serious for him, he could've gotten the test behind OPs back but wanted to be a bitch about it and make the whole house unhappy as he was allowing himself to be.
If there was actual *evidence* of cheating, it makes sense to verify your paternity. Taking the words of someone you don't like and trust and letting that cause you doubt is illogical. The simple explanation is that it hurts when you aren't trusted baselessly.
No he should have left her for refusing to take the test, because her sister put them both on the spot and no sane person would respect him if she didn't take the test. In the UK till they banned it over 50% of the paternity DNA test was showing the kid wasn't the father's and in France it's even illegal for a guy to challenge it, this alone tells most guys if a woman don't take the test then most likely she fears the confrontation of it's results. Women should also want the test too, there is a documentary somewhere on youtube where this evil paternity ward nurse intentionally switched up people's children (her target was namely black people with twins) when the hospital found out they initially attempted to hide it till one of the parents sued and revealed it over the five years the nurse worked there with over 100+ victims. DNA test is insurance for any guy, cheating women are already immoral and have zero problems lying as long as someone else pays the bill, cut the middle man from the deal asap and have all children get tested asap (some can be done before birth) so creatures like this "Rachel" gets exposed and vanquish their lies immediately so they can't keep doing damage by immediately destroying her credibility.
OP really was like "fuck your feelings, what about mine?" Paternity doubt is a big fear for men. Also, if you have nothing to fear, then a test is nothing but reassurance of your faithfulness.
It's reassurance that he doesn't trust her. Sure, it's scary thinking your child could not be yours, not shouldn't that be based on evidence or the wife's actual behavior?
Honestly rather that. He did a 180 cuz of what known troublemaker said, he must've already been looking for a reason to dip when she did that and only stayed cuz he was guilty at being made to look stupid when the results came.
Women need to learn that its not about trusting you its about getting proof. Men need proof not this trust be bro attitude. Only a woman can be 100% sure the kid is hers, A man cant. Paternity test should be mandatory.
@@Maulis47 yes they can...they can sleep with a man then move out in the woods give birth to it and know its hers. a man can never know if someone else was between her legs only she can. The only way a man can be 100% sure is to force the woman to not meet a single man for like a whole year and that is just wrong.
You only need more proof when you aren't sure. If you trusted, you'd be sure. So, it is about trust. That being said, he could have handled this without hurting his wife's feelings. He could have just quietly done a paternity test, gotten the results, and never brought it up again.
This entire story is the epitome of “women heh *sips coffee*” Thing is, op’s revenge proves EXACTLY why op’s husband needed a paternity test to even let the accusation go, because op’s absurd refusal to even take one is effectively admitting that she’d cheated, insulting fine whatever if you know the truth then you have nothing to fear and nothing to hide, rub his nose in it fine but refusing to take a test at all only made op look guilty as hell
I'd be resistant, too. You want a paternity test based on what evidence? What reasonable suspicion should he have had? A comment from a person you say you don't trust with nothing to corroborate it shouldn't raise doubts. Also, he could have gotten the paternity test secretly since there was no logical reason to question paternity. He would have gotten his answer, and he wouldn't have hurt his wife.
That was always an option. There was no evidence of cheating, and once you verbalize that you doubt paternity, the mother will be hurt that you don't trust her. It would be a different story if there was actual evidence.
What about the fact that she was magically able to see chat history between her sister and Brandon without checking through either of their devices ? 🤭
First off she should of dna tested the kid's, then taken the results to her family and tear them up for tolerating her sisters bs and then cut off EVERYONE who enables the behavior with excuses. You women need to understand that at birth only mother knows shes the parent. The man doesn't know! Trust needs to be verified from time to time.
These past few months every recent vid began by saying ‘the channel is struggling-please sub.’ So I subscribed at that time. u had about 18k subs , now u have over 30k which made me wonder ‘why do they keep harping about it?’ But I don’t know the mysteries of u tube, so kept watching thinking he was being sincere. So Today when i began the vid to hear u plugging a new channel, I couldn’t help but wonder ‘What happened to the struggling? Is the new channel a replacement?’ How do u go from grovelling one day to having the resources for another channel?
I’m not overthinking, I’m displaying empathy. If someone is struggling & u can help out, u should at least try. I get that u don’t have the same opinion. No crime in that.
If she wanted to prove Rachel wrong, she'd do it right away. I don't blame Nate for thinking that. If you want his trust, should have listened lmfao. Female logic. 29:11 😂
"How can a child be 3 feet old?" Primitive text to speech that read _M_ and _F_ as _months_ and _feet_ instead of _male_ and _female._ They were probably five and three _years_ old.
-OP is so self centred, like it's always what she felt, how she's sad, how she's tired. -She could've easily agreed to the test if she was "soooo" sure he's the father -Hand shaking while opening the envelope ?? Definitely not a sign of sleeping around right?
I don't understand why women get a defensive about paternity tests ??? If a man asks for a paternity test, you do it, no questions asked OP loves to avoid situation until they get out of hand
I would normally agree, but given this only came after taking the word of family member KNOWN to cause drama and only said what they said cuz their kid in particular was on her sh*t list that day and chose to be nasty as usual, he upended his relationship for it. If it was THAT serious, he could've gotten the test done behind her back, but chose to drag his feet in hopes of a "confession/ blessing" to get the test from OP. He didn't even properly apologize for his antics just to be told what everyone already knew but he had doubts for whatever reason. Only AFTER being made to look stupid was he 'sorry'.
I would have handed him the results without opening it and then walked off for a while. Tell him I need space to figure out how to have a marriage with zero trust
25:13 "Such a jealous Baa- HAWK TUAH" had me rolling 😂😂😂
Another reason paternity test should be mandatory for every birth
Exactly. That way fathers know for sure if the kid is theirs and there is no doubt about the husband's trust since it is not his decision anyway.
Exactly having it be mandatory would keep humiliating circumstances like this from happening.
I say genetic, that way diseases could be found, and treatment begun earlier. Seen too many kids suffer from things a quick test finds.
@Lonelysoul02 definitely. That's just as important as it could save a childs life
"Another reason paternity (...) for every birth"
As well as a _maternity_ test.
Whole story could’ve been avoided if OP took the test & checked her sister.
Exactly, the indignation just made her look suspicious
Yes. I would do it straight away and organisea family dinner then tell her it😆’s her turn lol next time
He trusted Rachel more than he trusted her, that's the point. She shouldn't have to get a test, she was being punished for nothing.
@@MoulderingMortal what kind of logic is that? it's the same logic cheaters use to hide their affairs. so whether she's innocent or not doesn't matter. it's that he has doubts and if she wants those doubts erased it's as simple as taking a paternity test.
@@MoulderingMortal like I said, she refused to check her sister immediately after she said what she said. Thats what caused the doubt. The fact that OP didnt address her right then & there.
00:43 "We've got two kids, Max, five months and Leila, three feet."
01:37 "Max, my little chatterbox, was running around telling anyone who would listen about his latest science project."
WOW! Max must have been quite a prodigy. At five months, he's running around, talking, and doing a science project!
Then there's Leila, THREE FEET!
LOL LOL LOL
I think the post was (5M) and (3F) for reddit bullshit of male and female, and the bad ai tts turned into months and feet because it though it meant that or something.
@@dilsoncamacho4100 I love the 5 Million one
The test should be her initiative.
She is a jerk to think that making the damn test is a negative thing
Anxiety and fears can be completely irrational. Even if a man believes that a child is theirs, the moment someone says otherwise, it creates a seed of doubt. The anxiety can be irrational, but that doesn’t mean you can just “get over it”. People go to counseling for years to overcome fear and anxiety.
Imagine knowing a solution to your problem and just not doing it bc “I don’t want to, but you fix it”. That alone should’ve been a reason to leave imo.
Sounds real logical on paper, but nothing could be more stupid than to destroy a marriage on a malicious comment made by someone you don't even respect or like! Believe me, my 1st instinct would be to leave j/b of the doubt getting from the hubby! The insult is palpable, but you can be in the right, but to break up a longstanding marriage over it is insane once you think hard over a period of years as you look back "why did I do this?" ;-(
That's true but why not get the test? What is so abhorrent with getting the test done?
@@BlackKoiRecords There a principle behind not allowing someone to blackmail you into testing paternity! ;-)
And when the paternity test came back, OP should have left. The trust was gone imo
@@mimibee409 That's the emotional response which I understand, but you're probably giving what others want when you break up! You fell into their trap! ;-)
"You're such a jealous byyyyyye!!" @ 25:12
🤣😂🤣😆😄
OP doesn't understand: Once a thought is in your head, you can't just will it to be erased.
Her indignation that her husband would "dare" to have doubts is honestly just unrealistic expectation.
Should she have had to prove herself? In an ideal world, no. In an ideal world, your spouse has complete blind faith with never a doubt.
But in the real world, where spouses are betrayed on the regular, it's not unreasonable for a doubt to arise from a situation like this. And addressing those doubts before they fester is the better path, rather than letting things fester while nursing your indignation about having your faithfulness questioned.
Trust sometimes needs to be verified.
I heard this story the other day but with OP being male and his wife tried to persuade him to take a paternity test to stop the rumour started by his sister. He kept refusing saying he didn't need a paternity test but it was causing his wife problems so in the end he had one. Personally I don't get the reluctance to get a paternity test, I have no problem with them, the question of trust is another issue but paternity tests should be a given. Frankly OP comes across as a perpetual liar for convenience. She lied to everyone and hid her true feelings, really healthy in a relationship
Um why was her hands shaking while opening the paternity test? That says a ton
Sleeping around a little😂
Definitely, if I didn't rip the package open in a live feed, proud how loyal i am
Exactly what I thought too 🤦🏻♀️
Why didn’t Nate just take a test if he wanted. He is Max parent, does he need her OK? He could have done it without telling her.
OP suffered because of her pride and lack of empathy for her husband.
Women just take the test
I don't agree with this.We should normalize paternity tests. I understand her point. But women have the advantage of knowing who their baby is because it comes out of them. Us men don't get that. I don't want to unpack my entire views on this. But most men nowadays are under the same consensus... normalize paternity tests. They should also be done before the child is born, and the man is asked to sign the birth certificate.
I laughed hysterically at Lila's "Age" 😂
Nate is weak.
One comment from a family member KNOWN to lie and cause drama, and he couldn't let that one comment go?? He up ended his relationship over blatant bs he could've checked on his but wanted a "confession" from OP/her blessing to go for the test.
"What if she knows something we dont?" And what could she know that OP, the birth mom, wouldn't?? If it was sk serious for him, he could've gotten the test behind OPs back but wanted to be a bitch about it and make the whole house unhappy as he was allowing himself to be.
The rest would be between Nate and the kid no reason to swab her
Unless he doubted she was the mother.
Babies accidentally switched at birth happens from time to time.
It's a test to guarantee parentage. Red flag for sure. Why were her hands shaking if she was so sure?
it's weird that the wife could have easily let a paternity test happen but didn't because "you should just trust"
It's stupid.
because woman
I know right, if she was this reluctant her husband doubt is justified 🤷🏻♀️
If there was actual *evidence* of cheating, it makes sense to verify your paternity. Taking the words of someone you don't like and trust and letting that cause you doubt is illogical. The simple explanation is that it hurts when you aren't trusted baselessly.
She can always be certain the child came from her. Men without the test lack that absolute certainty.
She would have had me thinking he wasn’t mine either if she kept fighting that hard for something that could have been solved in a few days
I would have left if your husband can't trust you then there is no point in staying in the marriage
No he should have left her for refusing to take the test, because her sister put them both on the spot and no sane person would respect him if she didn't take the test. In the UK till they banned it over 50% of the paternity DNA test was showing the kid wasn't the father's and in France it's even illegal for a guy to challenge it, this alone tells most guys if a woman don't take the test then most likely she fears the confrontation of it's results.
Women should also want the test too, there is a documentary somewhere on youtube where this evil paternity ward nurse intentionally switched up people's children (her target was namely black people with twins) when the hospital found out they initially attempted to hide it till one of the parents sued and revealed it over the five years the nurse worked there with over 100+ victims.
DNA test is insurance for any guy, cheating women are already immoral and have zero problems lying as long as someone else pays the bill, cut the middle man from the deal asap and have all children get tested asap (some can be done before birth) so creatures like this "Rachel" gets exposed and vanquish their lies immediately so they can't keep doing damage by immediately destroying her credibility.
@@MrWirelesscaller "DNA test is insurance for any guy"
I'd rather call it "assurance".
The husband should divorce her, she obviously doesn't care about her husbands feelings
When in the Story the Grandma said the baby doesn't look like Jake, I was expecting someone to say the baby was Black...
We don't know the race of these redditors and you'd actually be surprised at how many black folk have white-sounding names
OP really was like "fuck your feelings, what about mine?" Paternity doubt is a big fear for men. Also, if you have nothing to fear, then a test is nothing but reassurance of your faithfulness.
It's reassurance that he doesn't trust her.
Sure, it's scary thinking your child could not be yours, not shouldn't that be based on evidence or the wife's actual behavior?
Dont try to ruin someones life with a lie, when yours can be ruined with the truth.
If nate doesn't believe kid isn't his. Op divorce him take 100% custody and loads of child support from nate with only supervised visitations
Every man doesn't know for sure the kid is his ... get the test ... stop being a suint about it
happy that you brought back the minecraft gameplay, i couldn't stand the subway surfers. thanks!
14:46 Yes, "yell at him"; not at the person who was at fault. That's entirely logical and reasonable.
for a sec. I thought OP will take the paternity test but also divorced her husband too...
Honestly rather that. He did a 180 cuz of what known troublemaker said, he must've already been looking for a reason to dip when she did that and only stayed cuz he was guilty at being made to look stupid when the results came.
it did not help she is in a group that gives cheating advice💀
Women need to learn that its not about trusting you its about getting proof. Men need proof not this trust be bro attitude. Only a woman can be 100% sure the kid is hers, A man cant.
Paternity test should be mandatory.
Even a woman can't be 100% sure a child is hers.
@@Maulis47 yes they can...they can sleep with a man then move out in the woods give birth to it and know its hers. a man can never know if someone else was between her legs only she can.
The only way a man can be 100% sure is to force the woman to not meet a single man for like a whole year
and that is just wrong.
"Paternity test should be mandatory."
Maternity test as well.
You only need more proof when you aren't sure. If you trusted, you'd be sure. So, it is about trust.
That being said, he could have handled this without hurting his wife's feelings. He could have just quietly done a paternity test, gotten the results, and never brought it up again.
@@smilesnluvd6526 Yes but that's even worse, going behind someone back show that you don't even trust them to tell the truth at all.
If i was Nate I would have done it in secret she didn’t have to know he had second thoughts
The main character likes drama just like her sister.
This entire story is the epitome of “women heh *sips coffee*”
Thing is, op’s revenge proves EXACTLY why op’s husband needed a paternity test to even let the accusation go, because op’s absurd refusal to even take one is effectively admitting that she’d cheated, insulting fine whatever if you know the truth then you have nothing to fear and nothing to hide, rub his nose in it fine but refusing to take a test at all only made op look guilty as hell
I'd be resistant, too. You want a paternity test based on what evidence? What reasonable suspicion should he have had? A comment from a person you say you don't trust with nothing to corroborate it shouldn't raise doubts.
Also, he could have gotten the paternity test secretly since there was no logical reason to question paternity. He would have gotten his answer, and he wouldn't have hurt his wife.
Gah op’s pride is dragging this story out
Quick question. How does one insinuate a paternity test?
Maybe op did cheat, that ego destroyed her marriage when just a test would fix
I would have done without even asking my wife the next day. And no, I will not be sorry.
That was always an option.
There was no evidence of cheating, and once you verbalize that you doubt paternity, the mother will be hurt that you don't trust her. It would be a different story if there was actual evidence.
Her husbandis right to make paternity test to prove Rachel is wrong.
>I need you to test my kid to prove I’m the father
the father could test the kid anytime he wants without the mother’s consent. low-quality content
You better hope the wife never finds out! lol! ;-)
That law has only changed recently, used to be you needed the mother's consent to get paternity test
What about the fact that she was magically able to see chat history between her sister and Brandon without checking through either of their devices ? 🤭
That's illegal in some places around the world.
First off she should of dna tested the kid's, then taken the results to her family and tear them up for tolerating her sisters bs and then cut off EVERYONE who enables the behavior with excuses. You women need to understand that at birth only mother knows shes the parent. The man doesn't know! Trust needs to be verified from time to time.
"First off she should of dna tested the kid's"
Your grammar is horrible.
These past few months every recent vid began by saying ‘the channel is struggling-please sub.’ So I subscribed at that time. u had about 18k subs , now u have over 30k which made me wonder ‘why do they keep harping about it?’ But I don’t know the mysteries of u tube, so kept watching thinking he was being sincere. So Today when i began the vid to hear u plugging a new channel, I couldn’t help but wonder ‘What happened to the struggling? Is the new channel a replacement?’ How do u go from grovelling one day to having the resources for another channel?
Don’t overthink it bro😂😂😂😂😂 Just enjoy the content.
I’m not overthinking, I’m displaying empathy. If someone is struggling & u can help out, u should at least try. I get that u don’t have the same opinion. No crime in that.
How can you read messages between two people?
Soooo she hacked the accounts for the msgs? And BAAAAAAAA... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This story is so annoying. She’s acting like OMG what can I do? I can’t think of a solution… Just take the damn test.
If she wanted to prove Rachel wrong, she'd do it right away. I don't blame Nate for thinking that. If you want his trust, should have listened lmfao. Female logic.
29:11 😂
Why not just take the test this whole thing is stupid and could have been avoided if you just got the test
All this and many other problems could be fixed my mandatory paternity tests at birth
Take the test and divorce him
How can a child be 3 feet old?
"How can a child be 3 feet old?"
Primitive text to speech that read _M_ and _F_ as _months_ and _feet_ instead of _male_ and _female._ They were probably five and three _years_ old.
What a waste of time.
Lila is 3 feet year old
what happened to the daughter with three feet?
Insinuate or instigate?
Lila 3 feet??
under an hr
Might have been easier to vary the background on this channel than start a new one. This one has gotten so irritating. 😐
If there was no doubt, why were her hands shaking?
That's like asking why some people laugh at funerals or at bad news. Anxiety and stress express itself in many ways.
-OP is so self centred, like it's always what she felt, how she's sad, how she's tired.
-She could've easily agreed to the test if she was "soooo" sure he's the father
-Hand shaking while opening the envelope ?? Definitely not a sign of sleeping around right?
I don't agree with her take the text
AI slop.
I don't understand why women get a defensive about paternity tests ??? If a man asks for a paternity test, you do it, no questions asked
OP loves to avoid situation until they get out of hand
I would normally agree, but given this only came after taking the word of family member KNOWN to cause drama and only said what they said cuz their kid in particular was on her sh*t list that day and chose to be nasty as usual, he upended his relationship for it.
If it was THAT serious, he could've gotten the test done behind her back, but chose to drag his feet in hopes of a "confession/ blessing" to get the test from OP.
He didn't even properly apologize for his antics just to be told what everyone already knew but he had doubts for whatever reason. Only AFTER being made to look stupid was he 'sorry'.
@@CG-yb6zjgetting without the mother's consent is illegal in some states in the US as well as other countries
Under 10 mins
Make a bet about it, if she is the mother proven by the test, Nate has to pay OP $10,000.
Nate could have tested the boy at any time. He wanted her to do all the work
There are countries, where it is illegal for the father to just test.
Take the test. And then hand him the divorce petition.
I would have handed him the results without opening it and then walked off for a while. Tell him I need space to figure out how to have a marriage with zero trust
Op your husband betrayed you n didn't believe in you at all until you took a test but you wanna stay with him?
"Op your husband betrayed you"
What was the betrayal?