Two roman Velites are getting ready for morning training and one says: "Do you know that there are people with dog heads in India?" "That is stupid, how could anyone belive such nonsence?" Says the other one while he puts on his helmet.
@Han Lockhart Velites were young recruits in the Roman Republic Era's military, during the manipular legion style of combat. They are famous for wearing skinned wolf heads as headdresses.
Couldn't they have simply been mountain bandits wearing the skins of Wolves' heads to appear more threatening? Since the women wouldn't indulge in bandritry they'd have no need to wear said wolf skin masks.
I think the writers would have been sophisticated enough to recognise a head covering. I wonder if these are people who deliberately mutilated their mouths though, like the African tribes that insert plates into their lips? Would it be possible to make your nose and mouth resemble that of a dog?
I was thinking a group that wears masks or does ritual body modification of some sort. Then it get filtered over time like the telephone exercise. That's how go could get primary and secondary/tertiary accounts. You see similar things with fossils if you look into hero bones or mythological creatures. If you read Herodotus and several other ancient writers (names escape me at the moment), they peg gryphons as originating from a specific area of what is now Afghanistan. They're roughly lion sized lion bodied, have bird heads, and wings, and protect their nests, which are made from gold. The relevant areas of Afghanistan do have gold deposits. They also have fossils of protoceratops, which is a smaller hornless precursor to triceratops. It's about the right size, quadrupedal body, has a beaked "bird head", the frills tend to disarticulate up and back ("wings"), and are often found in associations with fossilized nests.
@@christopherknorr2895 multiple accounts which describe how the dog headed men look act and think and even if they talk or not differently and calls their cultures different some records have the dog headed men unable to talk others have them able to talk even details of the dog's looks are different a legend is not this diverse in every single aspect about them
and of which these records go back to several ancient cultures ancient china india 4000 year old carvings of them found ancient egypt ancient greece and ancient israel and our earliest writing going back only a few 100 years
I had to google this, there were alot of accounts of this, and I'm just going to paste one of them:Why does St Christopher have a dog head? Saint Christopher He was reported to be of enormous size, with the head of a dog instead of a man, apparently a characteristic of the Marmaritae. This Byzantine depiction of St. Christopher as dog-headed resulted from their misinterpretation of the Latin term Cananeus (Canaanite) to read canineus, that is, "canine".
they were real thats why. Look at ancient egypt and the number of hybrid creatures. It was a real thing. Then the flood happened to wipe out the creation that mankind had made. This is all common knowledge no?
That's not a misinterpretation! St. Augustine of Hippo, who lived in 430, one of the most influential early christian fathers, spoke about the existence of the cynocephali and other peculiar races in his book The City of God, claiming that he personally preached them the Gospel. And through his accounts, they became recognized as "morally dumb, sometimes even demonic" - but nonetheless, "redeemable". St. Augustine, one of the most educated men of his time, would certainly not waste part of his time discussing the salvation or damnation of mere "mythological" creatures.
If he was from Canaan, he might have been a survivor. God ordered that living things be killed in that region several times over the biblical timeline. Just saying it kinda makes sense
@Katie Katt We? Bold of you to assume that the nation state is dissolved by then. I guess it's my fault. What I meant as humans was purely that, no implication of a unified human government in space, but rather extension of current nations or even new nations in space.
It referred to North Africa west of Egypt. Ethiopia was the Greek name for Sub-Saharan Africa. But you're right, east of Libya meant essentially east of Africa.
@@iggyzeta9755 I think it depended on the context. Herodotus was pretty clear that he thought there were three continents, Europe, Asia, and Libya (Africa). But when talking specifically about Africa, Libya was separate from Egypt and Ethiopia. I think it's kind of like how America usually refers to the U.S., but can also mean all of the New World.
I'm willing to bet it's actually a kind of body modification, perhaps shaping the jaw to protrude and using weights to create a form of jowels. This would explain why the women are "of surpassing beauty" while the men look like dogs - men altered their faces, women did not. If their culture for some reason venerated animals, it might also make sense that their speech changed to match, resulting in perhaps an incomprehensible version of Hindi. And because these changes are mostly exterior (except for the alleged jaw shaping), we wouldn't find any remains that could verify this. Just throwing that out there.
Bossked Or they just choose not to speak and bark instead in reverence to their dog god. I mean there are people in India who hold their arms in the air until they’ve shriveled. But also, I remember seeing a documentary about a set of twins from India or somewhere whose faces were completely covered in hair. Maybe there was a cast of folks at one time with that genetic mutation that was only expressed in the men...
My comment seems to be being yeeted so I'll hijack yours. There's an animal that begins with "ch" and rhymes with wimp (I may have been yeeted for referring to it, lol). I will now refer to that animal as wimp. Type in "wimp growth" into google. You will find an image of a child and an adult male wimp. The child's face is flat, whereas the adult's is very long (in the context of "dog men", almost snout-like). Now, I've also heard that women retain child-like features, thereby looking cute. It's entirely possible that the men simply grew long jaws in the same way that our shoulders broaden during puberty. When it comes to communication, it probably goes both ways. The "barking" is probably an exaggeration, in the same way that the Greeks heard foreign talk as "bar, bar, bar". Also, they wouldn't need to speak the other's language in common situations, body language and enunciating common words is probably enough.
@anthony hudson yes, but it's not the beautiful part that's the problem, it's the women part that's the problem :3 (find me one straight not-even-bi furry, I dare you)
@@bryceforsyth8521 I don't understand what you're trying to say there. Mind myself in what way? And what does "make a point of one's being" exactly mean? It sounds like you're saying that furries and/or non-straight people are damaged in some way. I don't agree with that assessment, we're just different and there's nothing wrong with being different as long as you can function in everyday life, earn your own money, pay your taxes and you're not hurting other people. Also English isn't my first language, so please try using less obscure wording.
@@alexander0x77 I believe those who flaunt their sexuality must have been damaged. I do not believe that furries or 'non-straight' people are damaged, necessarily.
There is a syndrome called Hypertrichosis (werewolf syndrome) which causes excessive hair growth. I believe it is a hereditary condition, so if there was a clan with this affliction and they were expelled from, let's say Indian society, their language could have devolved to a point where they were unable to speak. It's just a hypothesis though. The excessive hair growth does make the afflicted look a bit dog-ish. www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/7yzmgv/hypertrichosis_the_excessive_hair_growth_above/ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrichosis
the Gentleman Returned yeah this seems incredibly likely especially when you take into account the number of cases in India as well, its fairly common in comparison to the rest of the world. These cases are also typically in rural villages also where oftentimes these villages have dialects that are heavily “slanged” or “devolve” as you mention due to poor education in these areas
Yeah there are people who have that but if you go to the video titled : THREE HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS of DOG-HEADED MEN // Marco Polo ... scroll to the thread by RJ ... you will read my lengthy comment ; there's actually two of them but you will learn a lot and that to this day people do see dog men and talk about them and report it . The military know about them and supposedly a man in black told a soldier that " We need them " . Some believe they are actually protecting us from more dangerous entities that roam around out there
Unless you have a really poor immune system, there's no reason to be afraid of catching anything. Go out and do stuff. Of course, if you have old or young relatives that you're in contact with daily, then yes, I can see the argument for being careful.
@@alexander0x77 Didn't you hear? The wuhan flu isn't affecting children much at all, seems to mostly affect the elderly. Additionally even though it's not extremely deadly it's the most transmissible virus in history (that I could find using google, please prove me wrong).
"There doesn't appear to be any evidence that there is dog headed men." He says as he reads out multiple pieces of second, third and first hand encounters from respected travelers and scholars of their eras and respective civilizations.
I have two theories. Either they had dog head headdresses/masks or they’re ugly as sin and they resemble some type of breed of dog. Having experienced a heavy night drinking and woken up the next morning with regret myself, who is to say that the one guy who thought their women were okay hadn’t been drinking when he met them? 🤔😬
@@christopherknorr2895 Or a primative culture practicing ritual mutilation on their faces tied to their beliefs systems. Consequently, would make them look inhuman and ugly.
No no ... there are stories of dog men that go back thousands of years and in fact Alexander the Great wanted to put them in his army but changed his mind because they were too fierce . To this day many people are telling their stories about seeing them or being tormented by them and if you want to know more just hit me up
I'd go more with MauLer. I do wish that Carl would create a channel devoted to completely destroying modern movies, but he'd be hard-pressed to dethrone our current fan-favorite, the Critical Drinker. But either way, it'll be fine.
Ibn Butatae: "they all wear nothing but loincloths, and the men have dog faces." "What about the women?" "Oh, they looked great." "But what were their faces like?" "Can't say I noticed."
Question: Historically how many unique indigenous populations have been deliberately wiped out or marginalized into extinction? The idea that there was at one time a "unique" tribe or species that is now extinct is something that has occurred many times. The concept of Dog-Headed men that are now extinct is not that far fetched.
@@IronCow8 Well, suppose it was a condition that was only superficial, like only skin deep? Like these theories involving cleft lips and werewolf syndrome. Barring mumification or preservation in a big, it would almost be impossible to differentiate.
@@TheZombiesReanimated True enough, there are tribes of pygmies who have gone extinct in living memory. To the uninitiated, in 300 years, their bones won't look much different from children with weird proportions, or maybe adults inflicted with a strange form of dwarfism. Unless one of them fell into a peat bog or something, any fleshy evidence of a "dog man" could just be classified as the bones of one of the greater ape species if you didn't keep a strong system of records
But they are not extinct to this day people are still seeing them and Reporting their stories about them . Please scroll up to the thread started by Signum Maxim and read the two lengthy replies I gave to him . Even Alexander the Great knew of the dogmen and wanted to have them in his army but changed his mind . There are many sightings of them nowadays and there are some that look like the classic style Hollywood werewolf from movies
this could have been a tribal thing where they shape the heads and faces of male infants like "dogs." It's sort of like the neck stretching rings or head elongation with rocks that other tribes have been proven to take part in. Therefore it makes sense the women didn't have it but the men did suggesting it's not evolutionarily passed. But a traveler wouldn't know of the custom and would thus think they must have been born that way. And if this tribe won't let you near their water, I doubt they're showing you the baby face stretching custom...
Except some accounts say the women also have these features, and if they were as common and numerous as stated why has there never been found any remains? As a devils advocate for this weird spot of history, I think if researchers came across the remains of "dog headed men" they would assume a weird coincidence or strange burial ceremony and throw out the notion of these being real creatures without another thought. But clear evidence of body malformation would be obviously present and not ignored if found. Also as to the water, the reason they disallow travellers to their water is territorial and plainly stated as such in the account: they don't want foreigners mucking about too much throughout their lands in fear they would take their women. The water and lands aren't secret themselves.
Jacob Blanton there could have been generational changes of customs. At one point it was popular for both genders, than only one. Things like that do happen rather often.
No no scroll up to the comment by Signum Magnum ... I wrote him 2 long comments and you might want to read them . And even Alexander the Great knew of dog men and wanted to have them in his army but changed his mind because they were just too fierce . To this day people are telling their stories of running into dog men and you can get more info about that from me
When I went to Japan about 25 years ago, small children in out-of-the-way towns and villages cried as soon as they saw me. And I'm not Casey Neistat or anything, so it was definitely the different phenotype causing it.
nice assumption, but these humanoids were real. even back in those times people were aware of all the different races in the world at the time. I hate it when people assume everyone in the past were ignorant, dumb, or naive. They WANT you to think that way.
To this day there are people telling their stories of running into dog men or being chased by them . Anybody here that wants to know more can hit me up . Dog man exist all over North America and the UK and Russia and Australia ... all over the globe . Native Americans have spoken about them for centuries . Alexander the Great spoke of them and how he wanted them in his army but changed his mind because they are just too Fierce I could go on and on if anybody's interested like I said just hit me up
It could be a group of people with a genetic predisposition towards hypertrichosis . If they had sort of puggish faces that were covered in hair, I could see them being called "dog-headed".
Aside from that there really are real dog men who are Fierce creatures with supernatural abilities and you can learn a lot more about that by scrolling up to the thread by Bossked . Once you read my comments there you will get more info and stories
I don't know how much you know about dog men but if you want to know more you can scroll up to the thread by Bossked and read my replies there ... I give some info that you might enjoy
I know people won’t believe me but August 3, 2021 at about 8 at night me and my daughter left the house and were going to pick up some stuff from her friends that lives like a mile away. Well, I saw a dog running across the road and as I looked at it I knew in my heart it was not a dog. It wasn’t anything like I had ever saw. I wasn’t afraid but my daughter was. As it disappeared beside this abandoned house, my daughter said “Mama, that wasn’t a dog..” I told her I know, I didn’t say anything because I didn’t want to frighten her. It’s arms and arm sockets looked human. It ran more awkwardly. It never looked at us. It was broad and tall. It ran with like the front paws hitting the ground and pushing off and the back legs pulling up right to the chest. Kinda like a cheeta or something like that. I personally think it was a demonic manifestation. It was black and looked completely solid. If it wasn’t for the arms and the size I would have honestly thought it was a dog. I just think it’s strange that we both knew immediately it wasn’t what it was supposed to be. I hope that’s what it was I have dogs and it scares me now to go outside at night to walk them because it was like a half of a mile or less away from where I live. If that was true I wonder what else is out there? What if this thing is in my woods? A long time ago about three o’clock in morning like at least a decade ago my dog backed into me in terror and kept barking out the window I mean for at least an hour. He never did that before or again. There was something outside he was afraid of. I wonder if it was that? Who knows? 🤷🏼♀️
Congenital generalized hypertrichosis has a dominant pattern of inheritance and has been linked to chromosome Xq24-27.1. ... Congenital generalized hypertrichosis terminalis is thought to be caused by genetic changes on chromosome 17 resulting in the addition or removal of millions of nucleotides (possible a group with a genetic disorder similar to this one segregated by society)
It's obviously a lost colony of Vargr, left in India by the Ancients, who were found and taken back to The Extents during the First Diaspora, probably sometime around -3000TI.
Everyone else: "hmmmm.... I don't know about these people" The one proto-Muslim guy: "Dude, what's wrong with your face? Ma'am, what's happened to your husb..... _heyyyy, how you doin'?_ "
The cynocephaly have been a side interest of mine. THEY KEEP COMING UP. Like, they pop up in several different time frames and many ancient historians speak of them. Its absolutely bizarre. Ancient writers that by all accounts seem to be legit and not likely to fabricate such things... they not only talk about the cynocephaly, but some even talk about having met them! And they don't seem to be describing people wearing dog fur and head dresses, no, they're actually talking about men with the actual heads of dogs. Its one of the weirdest pieces of niche history. I'm not saying I believe it, its just weirdly well reported by many different sources.
It's the same thing for me, except with pyramids. They keep coming up, and they're literally everywhere. Egypt, Central/South America, Indonesia, Shi Huang Di's tomb in China, the sunken site of Yonaguni off the coast of Japan, the New Grange Tombs in Ireland count as a pyramid structure-wise, even Serbia has gigantic dirt pyramids that for ages were mistaken to be mountains. Everyone else always goes towards Aliens or Atlantis, but I go towards Tower of Babel.
I believe it.. they've covered up so many real phenomena ,like giant bodies and skulls in Smithsonian,kinda like they don't want us to believe the Word of God in the bible.....Canaanite=canine
Have you ever listened to the Dogman encounters radio channel here on RUclips ? To this day people tell their stories of running into these creatures ... some of them are horrifying . Regrettably the more recent ones just are not that good , not very riveting and in fact some of these people did not actually see the dog man . The older stories are better and you might want to start with number 315 even though it gets off to a really slow start and he talks a lot of details once the story gets going you realize that by the end they could make a movie out of it . There's no way I think that guy made it up .. I definitely believe him . The man in black whom the military bought in to shut him up told him that " we need them " ... the Dogmen . Some believe they are here to protect us from more dangerous entities . People from all over call his show... many of them from North America but some from the UK . On average they seem to be 7 ft tall but there are so many stories of them being AT LEAST 10 FT TALL . Grown men ... military men , sheriffs , hunters so traumatized by their experience that it brings them to tears and gave many of them PTSD . I heard there's 6 different types where some of them just look like giant dogs walking on two legs and others that look exactly like the classic hollywood werewolf . The latter are known to be extremely smart . People always talk about the extreme fear that they felt being around Dogmen and many say they are pure evil . They are known to give off a vibe and a sound that can literally temporarily paralyze a person . Like skunks they can give off an odor as a form of defense/ offense that is said to be so unbearable and it smells like a combination of urine , garbage , and rotting meat . They are known to be telepathic and communicate with humans without using words in the typical way . There are stories of them following people home many many miles after a confrontation and even stalking people around their properties . The American natives have known about them forever but regrettably with all their great wisdom do not even talk to each other about them because they don't like to even say the name of any of the supernatural creatures . Some have more human like hands that still have claw like nails
Another channel that has some good dog man stories is Brenton Sawin Channel. One story is of a guy driving at night alone through the desert outside of Las Vegas when he sees 12 dogmen marching rank and file like soldiers . And that wasn't too far from a military base ... makes you wonder what's going on or if the dog man started mimicking the soldiers or maybe are actually being trained by them ... there are stories of the military having some kind of sonar device that can control and subdue them through pain which actually makes me sad . Someone in England saw them use this and that's in one of the stories on Dogman encounters channel . There is another story of a guy seeing a family of them walking down the road .... they pass him and then up the head a little while later an accident ... ambulances ... military men .
I just realized my two comments were long especially the first one and some channels will censor long comments so if you could at least tell me that you saw them that would be good I don't want to have to repeat all that info .
*EASTWICK MAN:* _"Teeth like a lion. Head like a bear. Claws that could tear a plank to kindling. They come in the night… in the mist; always in the darkest, like they could see in the black!"_ *BULIWYF:* _"Did they go on two legs or four?"_ *EASTWICK MAN:* _"…it seems they did both, like a thing that was both man _*_and_*_ bear …though, myself, I cannot tell… I saw the glowwyrm, though! Saw it clear! We all did, on the last night! Saw it come down out of the hills through the mist, slithering this way and that - long as a hundred ships! Spitting fire at us as it came! My father's father always warned of it: said it was a _*_hate_*_ from old times…"_
That's along the lines of what I was thinking. Some hybrid tribal people with a high admixture of DNA from another hominid species. Having extreme prognathism, and possibly unusual or modified dentation.
Most likely related to the Vedda or the negrito people of southeast asia. Effectively the first native people of india who were displaced or intermixed with the current indian population. Basically the tribe of humans that migrated to Australia and became the aboriginals past through india and left populations behind who would have been different in appearance and religion to the rest of the indian population who are descended from later migrations. A remnant population of these could have survived and a racist historian with bad eyesight may have thought that they resemble dogs. They would have spoken a completely different language and religion, they were largely hunter gatherers and low tech with would explain the lack of clothing and their simple dwellings. Cannibalism (largely ritualistic) has been recorded amongst the Papuans and the Australians so that also lends credence to those claims. Everything else is embellished but if they were based off of a real group then it would have been similar to those.
It's either like a really old meme like the knight-fighting snails, or historical accounts purporting to the possible origins of the first furry/ yiffer colonies.
I remember there being Dog-Heads in early Arthurian mythology that Arthur and the crew fought in the mountains of Scotland. Similarly, the Old English word for Outlaw was “Wulfes Heafod” (Wolf’s Head) because those criminals could hunted as if they were a wolf. Thus it saddens me that the story of King Arthur fighting wolf men was likely just about hunting some mountain bandits. Reality truly is boring. :(
No actually dog men are real and to this day people are still seeing them not just all over the world and in places like North America but believe it or not right in the UK . If you scroll up to the thread started by Bossked you can hear a lot more by reading my replies there .. and those by another person .
'they carry iron or steel targets before them which they do cover and defend their bodies from head to toe', sound familiar? It's not like pacific islanders would have their own steel production process, it would require way too much specialisation that would be required to get the right amount of (reasonably) pure carbon mixed in with the right amount of molten iron, and then beat ingots into body-shaped plates. Plus more than a few western heavy cavalry helms of the period have more than a passing resemblance to a 'dog head'.
Yes... I'm subscribed to the "Voices of the Past" channel too. Poor form to not shout them out when their video "Three Historical Accounts of the Dog-Headed Men" from *two* days ago clearly inspired this video. inb4 "coincidence!" - -Sarg- ..Carl has previously commented on thier videos.
I'd be willing to bet that whatever cave-dwelling tribes these explorers came across may have in some way venerated wild dogs, perhaps hunting them from the local area and wearing their heads like helmets or masks. (The best modern example I can think of would be Vulpes Inculta, a member of Caesar's Legion in Fallout: New Vegas.) They additionally could have just been very hairy, in line with the veneration of animals. I also wouldn't be surprised to hear about ancient Indians worshipping bovines, that's definitely a cultural trend in that region. As for cannibalism, that's going to vary a lot by region and general culture of that society, but if they were straight up cave dwelling tribals, I would not be surprised. Implying that every writer mentioned isn't just lying or were being lied to, it's likely this is a series of misunderstandings that eventually became popular enough to become local myth and spread from there.
No no ... dog men are real there are many stories of them going back thousands of years and even Alexander the Great spoke about them and to this day people are still telling stories about them. If you want to hear more just hit me up
"Dog-headed" means they behaved like dogs, not literal meaning. It's a common fixture of ancient Saturnic tribes, along with the filing of teeth, wearing of skins and masks, and eating raw meat/cannibalism.
The way I have understood it was that in the discussions of them after Augustine of Hippoc, the Cynocephaly were used to discuss the idea of conversation of something that wasn’t quite human, before the idea of something like an alien was a thing. Discussions like “say there was something out there that could communicate and think like a human, but wasn’t one, would it have a soul? Would it go to heaven or hell or neither?” That sort of thing.
How much do you know about the ancient temples of India? I'm currently doing a series on the nubbed architecture of India. I have over 30 temples that exhibit nubs. I have episode one up on my channel, working on episode two right now. Thanks Carl.
Could it be that they suffer from some form of hypertrichosis? As it's a rare genetic condition, that leaves people looking very different, it could well lead to these people being ostracised from regular society, finding solace and community amongst other sufferers...
There r numerous accounts by American soldiers finding dogmen in abandon buildings & having to battle these dogmen.Also there r sightings of dogmen all over the world
I would love to see you cover the Chinese' impression of Byzantium, they said some interesting things that shine a bit of a light on the relative conditions of each society.
Hey Carl Dogmen are still beening spotted. I dunno if you be interested ( I know you spoken of before enjoying conspiracy and ailen stuff). Anyway this channel is very good and the interviewer knowns how to ask a good and relevant good question. ruclips.net/user/DogmanEncountersfeatured
How will Carl react once he learns that these entities are real, and are pre-flood entities coming up from inner earth? Or that the Woodwose/Wildman(Green Man) of ancient Britain is no other than the Sasquatch.
In City of God, Augustine tells us that it was Pythagoras who came up with the word “philosopher”. Prior to this it was customary practice to refer to men of great learning as “sages”. As sage is synonymous with wisdom, i.e., “sage advice”. Pythagoras, Augustine says, did not feel worthy or at least didn’t like the idea of being called wise and preferred to call himself a lover of knowledge.
We see the slow descent of that dog civilization. At first, the wore clothes, but grew progressively naked. Then they started taking brides from regular looking women and probably stoned their own dog-headed females. Until, eventually all their children inherited the human faces of their mothers.
That last account, because the Moroccan chap thought the women beautiful but the men dog-like, sounds like they were a tribe where the men were ritually scarified, tattooed or disfigured. Like the peoples with lip-plates or those women with the stretched necks. Something along those lines.
I ENCOUNTERED 2 DOGMEN IN A CORNFIELD IN ONTARIO CANADA OCT.2016. THEY WERE BOTH OVER 10 FEET TALL AND BLUFF CHARGED MY 3 BUDDIES AND ALL OVER THE CORNFIELD, FOR OVER AN HOUR. WORST NIGHT OF MY LIFE. THERE'S BOATLOADS OF EVIDENCE BESIDES THE EYE WITNESSES.
It's quite simple, a village or group of villages would use dog heads or wolf heads as headdresses. Just like Native americans, and others around the world. Very simple
I actually have a dog faced man. Like the medieval description he underpay language but can’t speak it. He is able to communicate w barks and gestures and he’ll do almost anything for bacon.
Random question, though very late. Is it selu-sid or selay-ou-sid? I've heard it pronounced both ways. Unlike Macedonia, in which c is pronounced as a hard K even though some mistakenly pronounce it with a soft c, I'm not sure.
My guess is that it started off with a mistranslation of a description of a foreign culture or tribe, from Greek, Indian, Persian, or some other language, and it was taken at face value and became a widespread Meme.
Possible explanations: 1) A tribe of people who wear preserved dogs heads like a headdress, possibly for ceremonial reasons. The "first-hand accounts" may have been from enough distance that this distinction could not be made. The rest is just the regurgitation of local folklore about the tribe by others in the area. 2) Genetic mutation due to severe inbreeding led to a tribe with severe facial deformities, possibly even deformities only affecting those with a Y-chromosome. If you don't believe this to be possible, look up the ostrich-foot people in Africa. Some people's feet look like ostrich feet - maybe some people's faces look like dog faces. 3) Some combination of 1) and 2). 4) Dog-headed people really exist.
Hey Carl. You might like my series on St-Christopher which I wrote quite a ways back, trying to explain what this means. If you are interested, it could be a subject to talk about on thinkspot as they have been pushing for collaborations there. Think about it.
We also have these in Southern Slavic mythology. We called them Psoglavi (literally Dogheads). They also had a single eye in the middle of their heads like Cyclopses
In Hungary the Tatars are referred to as the Dog Headed riders. I've heard Europeans often called anyone (especially steppe nomads) coming from the east Dog Headed (including pre-christian Hungarians). I always assumed, because the Tatars use a Dog/Wolves head in their flags and eastern European/Central Asian nomads generally use a lot of wolf related symbolism, that it kinda evolved from that association.
Dog-faced pony soldier crew, assemble.
Beat me too it!
Definitely Not Sargon needs to pin this comment.
Love it!
No Malarkey!
Somewhere Joe Biden saying ''Finally I am relevant''
Two roman Velites are getting ready for morning training and one says:
"Do you know that there are people with dog heads in India?"
"That is stupid, how could anyone belive such nonsence?" Says the other one while he puts on his helmet.
Baltazar Vok that is some pretty obscure humor.
I getttttt itttttttttt!
@Han Lockhart Velites were young recruits in the Roman Republic Era's military, during the manipular legion style of combat. They are famous for wearing skinned wolf heads as headdresses.
"They dragged us an everybody else into the center of town. And that asshole with a dog on his head, he starts talking about how we're bad people!"
Baltazar Vok Yes. How to frighten other people. Put on a headdress and act savage.
Traveling to the Americas, I saw women who could change themselves into men, and many great and wondrus things.
Having seen this comment first, I will now watch the video with it in mind
Thats fucking brilliant. Seriously, i haven't laughed that hard for a minute
I read this in a vague middle eastern accent.
@MARK JONES Hark! Spott'd the hole of his buttocks!
And let me assure you that this doesn't need to be proven my brother.
Couldn't they have simply been mountain bandits wearing the skins of Wolves' heads to appear more threatening?
Since the women wouldn't indulge in bandritry they'd have no need to wear said wolf skin masks.
Makes sense.🐺
I think the writers would have been sophisticated enough to recognise a head covering. I wonder if these are people who deliberately mutilated their mouths though, like the African tribes that insert plates into their lips? Would it be possible to make your nose and mouth resemble that of a dog?
I'd think not necessarily even bandits, but maybe wore dog masks Possibly just out of tradition or to frighten outsiders.
@@kevint1719 They could have been practice some kind of ritualistic scaring or deformation on the men to make them appear more fearsome.
So they were furries
This was the first written account of furries.
Well dog men are real they exist and people even nowadays are still telling stories about running into them
In my opinion its silk road legend that became a sort of meme shared between medieval and antiquity scholars
“Is this medieval 4chan?” was a thought that crossed my mind
I was thinking a group that wears masks or does ritual body modification of some sort. Then it get filtered over time like the telephone exercise. That's how go could get primary and secondary/tertiary accounts.
You see similar things with fossils if you look into hero bones or mythological creatures. If you read Herodotus and several other ancient writers (names escape me at the moment), they peg gryphons as originating from a specific area of what is now Afghanistan. They're roughly lion sized lion bodied, have bird heads, and wings, and protect their nests, which are made from gold. The relevant areas of Afghanistan do have gold deposits. They also have fossils of protoceratops, which is a smaller hornless precursor to triceratops. It's about the right size, quadrupedal body, has a beaked "bird head", the frills tend to disarticulate up and back ("wings"), and are often found in associations with fossilized nests.
It can't just be a meme, otherwise how do you explain multiple accounts?
@@christopherknorr2895 multiple accounts which describe how the dog headed men look act and think and even if they talk or not differently and calls their cultures different some records have the dog headed men unable to talk others have them able to talk even details of the dog's looks are different a legend is not this diverse in every single aspect about them
and of which these records go back to several ancient cultures ancient china india 4000 year old carvings of them found ancient egypt ancient greece and ancient israel and our earliest writing going back only a few 100 years
My dude, you were on trending as a "creator on the rise". Very nice.
Dark Dodgers
So they demonetize his entire channel, and then put him on trending? 😂😂😂
Shhhh, don't tell RUclips that!
I had to google this, there were alot of accounts of this, and I'm just going to paste one of them:Why does St Christopher have a dog head?
Saint Christopher
He was reported to be of enormous size, with the head of a dog instead of a man, apparently a characteristic of the Marmaritae. This Byzantine depiction of St. Christopher as dog-headed resulted from their misinterpretation of the Latin term Cananeus (Canaanite) to read canineus, that is, "canine".
Thats really interesting. Kinda funny that they actually believed he had the head of a dog.
boo abc company boo!
they were real thats why. Look at ancient egypt and the number of hybrid creatures. It was a real thing. Then the flood happened to wipe out the creation that mankind had made. This is all common knowledge no?
That's not a misinterpretation! St. Augustine of Hippo, who lived in 430, one of the most influential early christian fathers, spoke about the existence of the cynocephali and other peculiar races in his book The City of God, claiming that he personally preached them the Gospel. And through his accounts, they became recognized as "morally dumb, sometimes even demonic" - but nonetheless, "redeemable". St. Augustine, one of the most educated men of his time, would certainly not waste part of his time discussing the salvation or damnation of mere "mythological" creatures.
If he was from Canaan, he might have been a survivor.
God ordered that living things be killed in that region several times over the biblical timeline.
Just saying it kinda makes sense
Priests: Can they stand on their two hind legs?
Person: Yes
Priests: They need Jesus
Wait till they find out about kangaroos
@Katie Katt Humans should dominate the universe
@Katie Katt We? Bold of you to assume that the nation state is dissolved by then. I guess it's my fault. What I meant as humans was purely that, no implication of a unified human government in space, but rather extension of current nations or even new nations in space.
Good priest
@@JHMninja89
God dominates the universe.
Libya refered to Africa, not the modern country of Libya.
It referred to North Africa west of Egypt. Ethiopia was the Greek name for Sub-Saharan Africa. But you're right, east of Libya meant essentially east of Africa.
@@iggyzeta9755 I think it depended on the context. Herodotus was pretty clear that he thought there were three continents, Europe, Asia, and Libya (Africa). But when talking specifically about Africa, Libya was separate from Egypt and Ethiopia. I think it's kind of like how America usually refers to the U.S., but can also mean all of the New World.
thats still a lot of land
I'm willing to bet it's actually a kind of body modification, perhaps shaping the jaw to protrude and using weights to create a form of jowels. This would explain why the women are "of surpassing beauty" while the men look like dogs - men altered their faces, women did not. If their culture for some reason venerated animals, it might also make sense that their speech changed to match, resulting in perhaps an incomprehensible version of Hindi. And because these changes are mostly exterior (except for the alleged jaw shaping), we wouldn't find any remains that could verify this.
Just throwing that out there.
Bossked Or they just choose not to speak and bark instead in reverence to their dog god. I mean there are people in India who hold their arms in the air until they’ve shriveled. But also, I remember seeing a documentary about a set of twins from India or somewhere whose faces were completely covered in hair. Maybe there was a cast of folks at one time with that genetic mutation that was only expressed in the men...
This is exactly what I was thinking!
My comment seems to be being yeeted so I'll hijack yours.
There's an animal that begins with "ch" and rhymes with wimp (I may have been yeeted for referring to it, lol). I will now refer to that animal as wimp. Type in "wimp growth" into google. You will find an image of a child and an adult male wimp. The child's face is flat, whereas the adult's is very long (in the context of "dog men", almost snout-like). Now, I've also heard that women retain child-like features, thereby looking cute. It's entirely possible that the men simply grew long jaws in the same way that our shoulders broaden during puberty.
When it comes to communication, it probably goes both ways. The "barking" is probably an exaggeration, in the same way that the Greeks heard foreign talk as "bar, bar, bar". Also, they wouldn't need to speak the other's language in common situations, body language and enunciating common words is probably enough.
Im willing to take that bet
Would be my guess also.
Being from India I have never heard any story or legends of the dogman of India. This is something completely new to me
What if “dog headed men” was an insult/racial slur?
no lots of explorers described them looking as such.
Cant be bro these were real race
It most likely was one because ancient Indians famously stereotyped people based in their appearances.
And they are still around us, being in control of everything
what if it wasnt 😻
Literally ancient furries.
Rag's ancestors.
@anthony hudson yes, but it's not the beautiful part that's the problem, it's the women part that's the problem :3
(find me one straight not-even-bi furry, I dare you)
@@alexander0x77 Mind yourself, only the damaged make a point of their being.
Do you think that Rag''''s ancestor, Rag, might have come from there?
@@bryceforsyth8521 I don't understand what you're trying to say there. Mind myself in what way? And what does "make a point of one's being" exactly mean? It sounds like you're saying that furries and/or non-straight people are damaged in some way. I don't agree with that assessment, we're just different and there's nothing wrong with being different as long as you can function in everyday life, earn your own money, pay your taxes and you're not hurting other people. Also English isn't my first language, so please try using less obscure wording.
@@alexander0x77 I believe those who flaunt their sexuality must have been damaged. I do not believe that furries or 'non-straight' people are damaged, necessarily.
There is a syndrome called Hypertrichosis (werewolf syndrome) which causes excessive hair growth. I believe it is a hereditary condition, so if there was a clan with this affliction and they were expelled from, let's say Indian society, their language could have devolved to a point where they were unable to speak. It's just a hypothesis though. The excessive hair growth does make the afflicted look a bit dog-ish.
www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/7yzmgv/hypertrichosis_the_excessive_hair_growth_above/
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrichosis
Nah my money's on people with split lips.
the Gentleman Returned yeah this seems incredibly likely especially when you take into account the number of cases in India as well, its fairly common in comparison to the rest of the world. These cases are also typically in rural villages also where oftentimes these villages have dialects that are heavily “slanged” or “devolve” as you mention due to poor education in these areas
If a blue family is possible then that's a good hypothesis
historycollection.co/the-fugate-family-of-kentucky-had-blue-skin-for-generations/2/
Or dogman are real
Yeah there are people who have that but if you go to the video titled : THREE HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS of DOG-HEADED MEN // Marco Polo ...
scroll to the thread by RJ ... you will read my lengthy comment ; there's actually two of them but you will learn a lot and that to this day people do see dog men and talk about them and report it .
The military know about them and supposedly a man in black told a soldier that " We need them " .
Some believe they are actually protecting us from more dangerous entities that roam around out there
Thank you Sargon for giving us semi-quarantined people something intelligent to ponder while trapped in our own homes. Seriously, thanks.
Who is sargon? Our great host is Carl. No relation the the Carl that hosts sargon of akkad, that is a demonetization magnet.
Unless you have a really poor immune system, there's no reason to be afraid of catching anything. Go out and do stuff. Of course, if you have old or young relatives that you're in contact with daily, then yes, I can see the argument for being careful.
@@alexander0x77 I agree, unfortunately I have the normal flu. So I am stuck anyway.
@@ThePolishPlatypus Aw man, get well soon then
@@alexander0x77 Didn't you hear? The wuhan flu isn't affecting children much at all, seems to mostly affect the elderly. Additionally even though it's not extremely deadly it's the most transmissible virus in history (that I could find using google, please prove me wrong).
What's next Sargon?? MANBEARPIG??
Cereal?
@@kylerhatigan *SUPER* Cereal!
Hey he's working on he's weight.
No, Manbearpig is super cereal, his existence isn't in question.
All I know for sure is: they are good at poker.
bigolbear the jammy dodger: lmao
OwO
this most be right up your alley.
He hath been summoned
@@tord4336 he wants it to be right up his alley uwu
btw found your e6**, you have good tastes, my friend :>
fyi , people are saying that these are your ancestors
"There doesn't appear to be any evidence that there is dog headed men." He says as he reads out multiple pieces of second, third and first hand encounters from respected travelers and scholars of their eras and respective civilizations.
Funny but second and third are not proper evidence.
@Pecu Alex ..? I stand corrected and feeling like a fool.
@Pecu Alex As well as the Bible.
Who's to say that wasn't the medievil equivalent of furry fanfic?
@@jackhazardous4008 Your pic with comment. XD
I have two theories. Either they had dog head headdresses/masks or they’re ugly as sin and they resemble some type of breed of dog. Having experienced a heavy night drinking and woken up the next morning with regret myself, who is to say that the one guy who thought their women were okay hadn’t been drinking when he met them? 🤔😬
Batuta was a devout Muslim.
I'd believe that too if there weren't multiple accounts spanning centuries
@@christopherknorr2895 Or a primative culture practicing ritual mutilation on their faces tied to their beliefs systems. Consequently, would make them look inhuman and ugly.
No no ... there are stories of dog men that go back thousands of years and in fact Alexander the Great wanted to put them in his army but changed his mind because they were too fierce .
To this day many people are telling their stories about seeing them or being tormented by them and if you want to know more just hit me up
You have been spending too much time with Rags & Mauler.
I'd go more with MauLer. I do wish that Carl would create a channel devoted to completely destroying modern movies, but he'd be hard-pressed to dethrone our current fan-favorite, the Critical Drinker. But either way, it'll be fine.
he hasn't spent enough time with Rags & Mauler imho :3
One of the strangest accounts I’ve heard.
Hey, just want to let you know, I really enjoy and appreciate your channel.
If you want to know more about the dog man you can get a lot of information by scrolling up to the thread by Bossked and reading my replies there
Those alchemists must have been brewing quite the hell of a potion...
Ibn Butatae: "they all wear nothing but loincloths, and the men have dog faces." "What about the women?" "Oh, they looked great." "But what were their faces like?" "Can't say I noticed."
Question: Historically how many unique indigenous populations have been deliberately wiped out or marginalized into extinction? The idea that there was at one time a "unique" tribe or species that is now extinct is something that has occurred many times. The concept of Dog-Headed men that are now extinct is not that far fetched.
Yea but you would think they would keep a skull or something as a trophy, or perhaps we would find some evidence ourselves
@@IronCow8 Well, suppose it was a condition that was only superficial, like only skin deep? Like these theories involving cleft lips and werewolf syndrome. Barring mumification or preservation in a big, it would almost be impossible to differentiate.
@@TheZombiesReanimated True enough, there are tribes of pygmies who have gone extinct in living memory. To the uninitiated, in 300 years, their bones won't look much different from children with weird proportions, or maybe adults inflicted with a strange form of dwarfism. Unless one of them fell into a peat bog or something, any fleshy evidence of a "dog man" could just be classified as the bones of one of the greater ape species if you didn't keep a strong system of records
But they are not extinct to this day people are still seeing them and Reporting their stories about them .
Please scroll up to the thread started by Signum Maxim and read the two lengthy replies I gave to him .
Even Alexander the Great knew of the dogmen and wanted to have them in his army but changed his mind .
There are many sightings of them nowadays and there are some that look like the classic style Hollywood werewolf from movies
Maybe the dogmen were adivasi tribals
Maybe not all the trials were dogmen, but maybe all the dogmen were tribals
this could have been a tribal thing where they shape the heads and faces of male infants like "dogs." It's sort of like the neck stretching rings or head elongation with rocks that other tribes have been proven to take part in. Therefore it makes sense the women didn't have it but the men did suggesting it's not evolutionarily passed. But a traveler wouldn't know of the custom and would thus think they must have been born that way. And if this tribe won't let you near their water, I doubt they're showing you the baby face stretching custom...
Except some accounts say the women also have these features, and if they were as common and numerous as stated why has there never been found any remains? As a devils advocate for this weird spot of history, I think if researchers came across the remains of "dog headed men" they would assume a weird coincidence or strange burial ceremony and throw out the notion of these being real creatures without another thought. But clear evidence of body malformation would be obviously present and not ignored if found.
Also as to the water, the reason they disallow travellers to their water is territorial and plainly stated as such in the account: they don't want foreigners mucking about too much throughout their lands in fear they would take their women. The water and lands aren't secret themselves.
Perhaps a genetic abnormality due to inbreeding that mostly affects males.
Jacob Blanton there could have been generational changes of customs. At one point it was popular for both genders, than only one. Things like that do happen rather often.
your explanation is even more impossible than actual dog humans.
No no scroll up to the comment by Signum Magnum ... I wrote him 2 long comments and you might want to read them .
And even Alexander the Great knew of dog men and wanted to have them in his army but changed his mind because they were just too fierce .
To this day people are telling their stories of running into dog men and you can get more info about that from me
What about the dog faced pony soldiers?
When I went to Japan about 25 years ago, small children in out-of-the-way towns and villages cried as soon as they saw me. And I'm not Casey Neistat or anything, so it was definitely the different phenotype causing it.
nice assumption, but these humanoids were real. even back in those times people were aware of all the different races in the world at the time. I hate it when people assume everyone in the past were ignorant, dumb, or naive. They WANT you to think that way.
I would cry if I seen your face also.
You're leaving out the part where you were naked and following them.
To this day there are people telling their stories of running into dog men or being chased by them .
Anybody here that wants to know more can hit me up .
Dog man exist all over North America and the UK and Russia and Australia ... all over the globe .
Native Americans have spoken about them for centuries .
Alexander the Great spoke of them and how he wanted them in his army but changed his mind because they are just too Fierce I could go on and on if anybody's interested like I said just hit me up
It could be a group of people with a genetic predisposition towards hypertrichosis
. If they had sort of puggish faces that were covered in hair, I could see them being called "dog-headed".
Aside from that there really are real dog men who are Fierce creatures with supernatural abilities and you can learn a lot more about that by scrolling up to the thread by Bossked .
Once you read my comments there you will get more info and stories
Fun fact: I wrote an essay on this for my degree.
It bored me.
Anything interesting carl left out?
@BillyFreeTX lmfao
I'm interested, send it out dog.
Yeah, it's a no from me dawg
I just saw the title and I already have to comment how happy I am that someone is talking about the dog-headed people of travelers' tales~!
I don't know how much you know about dog men but if you want to know more you can scroll up to the thread by Bossked and read my replies there ... I give some info that you might enjoy
I know people won’t believe me but August 3, 2021 at about 8 at night me and my daughter left the house and were going to pick up some stuff from her friends that lives like a mile away. Well, I saw a dog running across the road and as I looked at it I knew in my heart it was not a dog. It wasn’t anything like I had ever saw. I wasn’t afraid but my daughter was. As it disappeared beside this abandoned house, my daughter said “Mama, that wasn’t a dog..” I told her I know, I didn’t say anything because I didn’t want to frighten her. It’s arms and arm sockets looked human. It ran more awkwardly. It never looked at us. It was broad and tall. It ran with like the front paws hitting the ground and pushing off and the back legs pulling up right to the chest. Kinda like a cheeta or something like that. I personally think it was a demonic manifestation. It was black and looked completely solid. If it wasn’t for the arms and the size I would have honestly thought it was a dog. I just think it’s strange that we both knew immediately it wasn’t what it was supposed to be. I hope that’s what it was I have dogs and it scares me now to go outside at night to walk them because it was like a half of a mile or less away from where I live. If that was true I wonder what else is out there? What if this thing is in my woods? A long time ago about three o’clock in morning like at least a decade ago my dog backed into me in terror and kept barking out the window I mean for at least an hour. He never did that before or again. There was something outside he was afraid of. I wonder if it was that? Who knows? 🤷🏼♀️
Try tosearch RUclips channel dogman encounters
Sounds like trolling goes back centuries
Be careful Carl, I think all the Dogman/Bigfoot type channels on RUclips got demonetized ages ago!
Clef lip/pallet and hirsutism are common in india.
I think you cracked the code. It makes the most sense.
Indians confirmed as eastern Mexicans?
Isolated tribe where such conditions took over due to lack of genetic diversity. Like that tribe of ostrich-footed people.
*wookie noises*
Mims Zanadunstedt grrrrrrrraaaaaah
Congenital generalized hypertrichosis has a dominant pattern of inheritance and has been linked to chromosome Xq24-27.1. ... Congenital generalized hypertrichosis terminalis is thought to be caused by genetic changes on chromosome 17 resulting in the addition or removal of millions of nucleotides (possible a group with a genetic disorder similar to this one segregated by society)
Funny. This channel was featured as “Creator on the Rise” on my RUclips homepage. Yet, it’s demonetized. 🤔
It's obviously a lost colony of Vargr, left in India by the Ancients, who were found and taken back to The Extents during the First Diaspora, probably sometime around -3000TI.
Sargon was recommended me by RUclips... Wow... Im impressed!
Wouldn't what type of dogs the traveler's are familiar with be a factor here? Are they used to seeing Afghan hounds or Bulldogs, for example?
"ancient furries"
-ancient aliens guy
👽 "I am not saying it's definitely aliens. But it has gotta be aliens."
👽George Tsoukslos meme
The original furries
Everyone else: "hmmmm.... I don't know about these people"
The one proto-Muslim guy: "Dude, what's wrong with your face? Ma'am, what's happened to your husb..... _heyyyy, how you doin'?_ "
proto muslims?
@@enterurnamehere27 it basically just means the earliest or first version
@@decwow so, "early muslims"? okay then
The cynocephaly have been a side interest of mine. THEY KEEP COMING UP. Like, they pop up in several different time frames and many ancient historians speak of them. Its absolutely bizarre. Ancient writers that by all accounts seem to be legit and not likely to fabricate such things... they not only talk about the cynocephaly, but some even talk about having met them! And they don't seem to be describing people wearing dog fur and head dresses, no, they're actually talking about men with the actual heads of dogs. Its one of the weirdest pieces of niche history. I'm not saying I believe it, its just weirdly well reported by many different sources.
It's the same thing for me, except with pyramids. They keep coming up, and they're literally everywhere. Egypt, Central/South America, Indonesia, Shi Huang Di's tomb in China, the sunken site of Yonaguni off the coast of Japan, the New Grange Tombs in Ireland count as a pyramid structure-wise, even Serbia has gigantic dirt pyramids that for ages were mistaken to be mountains.
Everyone else always goes towards Aliens or Atlantis, but I go towards Tower of Babel.
I believe it.. they've covered up so many real phenomena ,like giant bodies and skulls in Smithsonian,kinda like they don't want us to believe the Word of God in the bible.....Canaanite=canine
Have you ever listened to the Dogman encounters radio channel here on RUclips ?
To this day people tell their stories of running into these creatures ... some of them are horrifying .
Regrettably the more recent ones just are not that good , not very riveting and in fact some of these people did not actually see the dog man .
The older stories are better and you might want to start with number 315 even though it gets off to a really slow start and he talks a lot of details once the story gets going you realize that by the end they could make a movie out of it .
There's no way I think that guy made it up .. I definitely believe him .
The man in black whom the military bought in to shut him up told him that " we need them " ... the Dogmen .
Some believe they are here to protect us from more dangerous entities .
People from all over call his show... many of them from North America but some from the UK .
On average they seem to be 7 ft tall but there are so many stories of them being AT LEAST 10 FT TALL .
Grown men ... military men , sheriffs , hunters so traumatized by their experience that it brings them to tears and gave many of them PTSD .
I heard there's 6 different types where some of them just look like giant dogs walking on two legs and others that look exactly like the classic hollywood werewolf .
The latter are known to be extremely smart .
People always talk about the extreme fear that they felt being around Dogmen and many say they are pure evil .
They are known to give off a vibe and a sound that can literally temporarily paralyze a person .
Like skunks they can give off an odor as a form of defense/ offense that is said to be so unbearable and it smells like a combination of urine , garbage , and rotting meat .
They are known to be telepathic and communicate with humans without using words in the typical way .
There are stories of them following people home many many miles after a confrontation and even stalking people around their properties .
The American natives have known about them forever but regrettably with all their great wisdom do not even talk to each other about them because they don't like to even say the name of any of the supernatural creatures .
Some have more human like hands that still have claw like nails
Another channel that has some good dog man stories is Brenton Sawin Channel.
One story is of a guy driving at night alone through the desert outside of Las Vegas when he sees 12 dogmen marching rank and file like soldiers .
And that wasn't too far from a military base ... makes you wonder what's going on or if the dog man started mimicking the soldiers or maybe are actually being trained by them ... there are stories of the military having some kind of sonar device that can control and subdue them through pain which actually makes me sad .
Someone in England saw them use this and that's in one of the stories on Dogman encounters channel .
There is another story of a guy seeing a family of them walking down the road .... they pass him and then up the head a little while later an accident ... ambulances ... military men .
I just realized my two comments were long especially the first one and some channels will censor long comments so if you could at least tell me that you saw them that would be good I don't want to have to repeat all that info .
Man I love this channel
Late surviving Neanderthals or similar subspecies maybe? That would make sense of both the appearance and the difficulty with human language.
Yes it's a well known fact Neanderthals had dog faces.
Mason Bryant I can see how someone could look at the broad, heavy, jowl-beset face of a Neanderthal and say “That guy looks like a fucking mastiff!”
*EASTWICK MAN:* _"Teeth like a lion. Head like a bear. Claws that could tear a plank to kindling. They come in the night… in the mist; always in the darkest, like they could see in the black!"_
*BULIWYF:* _"Did they go on two legs or four?"_
*EASTWICK MAN:* _"…it seems they did both, like a thing that was both man _*_and_*_ bear …though, myself, I cannot tell… I saw the glowwyrm, though! Saw it clear! We all did, on the last night! Saw it come down out of the hills through the mist, slithering this way and that - long as a hundred ships! Spitting fire at us as it came! My father's father always warned of it: said it was a _*_hate_*_ from old times…"_
That's along the lines of what I was thinking. Some hybrid tribal people with a high admixture of DNA from another hominid species. Having extreme prognathism, and possibly unusual or modified dentation.
Most likely related to the Vedda or the negrito people of southeast asia. Effectively the first native people of india who were displaced or intermixed with the current indian population. Basically the tribe of humans that migrated to Australia and became the aboriginals past through india and left populations behind who would have been different in appearance and religion to the rest of the indian population who are descended from later migrations.
A remnant population of these could have survived and a racist historian with bad eyesight may have thought that they resemble dogs. They would have spoken a completely different language and religion, they were largely hunter gatherers and low tech with would explain the lack of clothing and their simple dwellings. Cannibalism (largely ritualistic) has been recorded amongst the Papuans and the Australians so that also lends credence to those claims.
Everything else is embellished but if they were based off of a real group then it would have been similar to those.
Goes to show you how long people have been trolling.
It's either like a really old meme like the knight-fighting snails, or historical accounts purporting to the possible origins of the first furry/ yiffer colonies.
This is what I'm watching on a Sunday!😂👍🇬🇧
My comment goes into the history books
Random fact: Your nose and ears never stop growing.
I’ve woke up after a heavy night on the brew with a dog headed lady in my bed.
They exist.
And I can confirm they have very bad breath.
Why did you go to bed with a dog person, you've possibly created a nephilim
I remember there being Dog-Heads in early Arthurian mythology that Arthur and the crew fought in the mountains of Scotland. Similarly, the Old English word for Outlaw was “Wulfes Heafod” (Wolf’s Head) because those criminals could hunted as if they were a wolf.
Thus it saddens me that the story of King Arthur fighting wolf men was likely just about hunting some mountain bandits. Reality truly is boring. :(
If it makes you feel any better king Arthur wasn't real either
@@SFTaYZa
He actually was
No actually dog men are real and to this day people are still seeing them not just all over the world and in places like North America but believe it or not right in the UK .
If you scroll up to the thread started by Bossked you can hear a lot more by reading my replies there .. and those by another person .
Dog headed men or dog faced pony soldiers? You decide.
Now Jess Phillips makes sense!
First time I've heard someone utter "Pliny the Elder" and they weren't talking about the beer.
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Body modification, scarification ?
'they carry iron or steel targets before them which they do cover and defend their bodies from head to toe', sound familiar? It's not like pacific islanders would have their own steel production process, it would require way too much specialisation that would be required to get the right amount of (reasonably) pure carbon mixed in with the right amount of molten iron, and then beat ingots into body-shaped plates. Plus more than a few western heavy cavalry helms of the period have more than a passing resemblance to a 'dog head'.
Yes... I'm subscribed to the "Voices of the Past" channel too. Poor form to not shout them out when their video "Three Historical Accounts of the Dog-Headed Men" from *two* days ago clearly inspired this video.
inb4 "coincidence!" - -Sarg- ..Carl has previously commented on thier videos.
kay
Could have been a isolated culture with a particularly odd fashion sense, like the “Eaters of the Dead”
I'd be willing to bet that whatever cave-dwelling tribes these explorers came across may have in some way venerated wild dogs, perhaps hunting them from the local area and wearing their heads like helmets or masks. (The best modern example I can think of would be Vulpes Inculta, a member of Caesar's Legion in Fallout: New Vegas.) They additionally could have just been very hairy, in line with the veneration of animals. I also wouldn't be surprised to hear about ancient Indians worshipping bovines, that's definitely a cultural trend in that region. As for cannibalism, that's going to vary a lot by region and general culture of that society, but if they were straight up cave dwelling tribals, I would not be surprised.
Implying that every writer mentioned isn't just lying or were being lied to, it's likely this is a series of misunderstandings that eventually became popular enough to become local myth and spread from there.
No no ... dog men are real there are many stories of them going back thousands of years and even Alexander the Great spoke about them and to this day people are still telling stories about them.
If you want to hear more just hit me up
Absolute schizo
Nice vid Carl, I love where you're going with this channel.
"Dog-headed" means they behaved like dogs, not literal meaning. It's a common fixture of ancient Saturnic tribes, along with the filing of teeth, wearing of skins and masks, and eating raw meat/cannibalism.
The way I have understood it was that in the discussions of them after Augustine of Hippoc, the Cynocephaly were used to discuss the idea of conversation of something that wasn’t quite human, before the idea of something like an alien was a thing. Discussions like “say there was something out there that could communicate and think like a human, but wasn’t one, would it have a soul? Would it go to heaven or hell or neither?” That sort of thing.
These accounts sound barking mad.
How much do you know about the ancient temples of India? I'm currently doing a series on the nubbed architecture of India. I have over 30 temples that exhibit nubs. I have episode one up on my channel, working on episode two right now. Thanks Carl.
Could it be that they suffer from some form of hypertrichosis? As it's a rare genetic condition, that leaves people looking very different, it could well lead to these people being ostracised from regular society, finding solace and community amongst other sufferers...
Exactly
There r numerous accounts by American soldiers finding dogmen in abandon buildings & having to battle these dogmen.Also there r sightings of dogmen all over the world
You can preach anything but when you preach Jesus Christ the demons always come out.
You should make a video about Ibn Battuta. I read a book about him and he's basically like a Middle-Eastern Marco Polo. Very interesting guy.
Someone has been following Voices of the Past :D
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*_Voices of the Past_* is a nice channel.
You mean a 14th Century Franciscan Liar.
I would love to see you cover the Chinese' impression of Byzantium, they said some interesting things that shine a bit of a light on the relative conditions of each society.
Hey Carl Dogmen are still beening spotted. I dunno if you be interested ( I know you spoken of before enjoying conspiracy and ailen stuff). Anyway this channel is very good and the interviewer knowns how to ask a good and relevant good question. ruclips.net/user/DogmanEncountersfeatured
How will Carl react once he learns that these entities are real, and are pre-flood entities coming up from inner earth?
Or that the Woodwose/Wildman(Green Man) of ancient Britain is no other than the Sasquatch.
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This was an expression of racism from that era.
In City of God, Augustine tells us that it was Pythagoras who came up with the word “philosopher”. Prior to this it was customary practice to refer to men of great learning as “sages”. As sage is synonymous with wisdom, i.e., “sage advice”. Pythagoras, Augustine says, did not feel worthy or at least didn’t like the idea of being called wise and preferred to call himself a lover of knowledge.
We see the slow descent of that dog civilization. At first, the wore clothes, but grew progressively naked. Then they started taking brides from regular looking women and probably stoned their own dog-headed females. Until, eventually all their children inherited the human faces of their mothers.
I'm reminded of the early American encounters with European ships with the natives seeing them as "clouds" or "floating islands"
That last account, because the Moroccan chap thought the women beautiful but the men dog-like, sounds like they were a tribe where the men were ritually scarified, tattooed or disfigured. Like the peoples with lip-plates or those women with the stretched necks. Something along those lines.
There were folkloric mythologies of dog people in Europe including the U.K. also during the early/mid medieval period
Carl?!?!?!?! Why is there a dead guy on the floor?!?!??!?!
Joke's on them. It was Rags time travelling.
I ENCOUNTERED 2 DOGMEN IN A CORNFIELD IN ONTARIO CANADA OCT.2016. THEY WERE BOTH OVER 10 FEET TALL AND BLUFF CHARGED MY 3 BUDDIES AND ALL OVER THE CORNFIELD, FOR OVER AN HOUR.
WORST NIGHT OF MY LIFE.
THERE'S BOATLOADS OF EVIDENCE BESIDES THE EYE WITNESSES.
It's quite simple, a village or group of villages would use dog heads or wolf heads as headdresses. Just like Native americans, and others around the world.
Very simple
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These sound like accounts of people who saw “Eyes Wide Shut” parties being held by islanders and didn’t think twice about it
I actually have a dog faced man. Like the medieval description he underpay language but can’t speak it. He is able to communicate w barks and gestures and he’ll do almost anything for bacon.
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Random question, though very late. Is it selu-sid or selay-ou-sid? I've heard it pronounced both ways. Unlike Macedonia, in which c is pronounced as a hard K even though some mistakenly pronounce it with a soft c, I'm not sure.
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Who is this sargon you all speak of? The historical king?
My guess is that it started off with a mistranslation of a description of a foreign culture or tribe, from Greek, Indian, Persian, or some other language, and it was taken at face value and became a widespread Meme.
WOOF,,, now I want to play some D&D.
No bro for real the dog headed men lived and still do.
Good day Carl, hope ya well. There is a guy called robert zephyr. he does similer info like you do hear. He also covers dog headed men. good stuff :)
Possible explanations:
1) A tribe of people who wear preserved dogs heads like a headdress, possibly for ceremonial reasons. The "first-hand accounts" may have been from enough distance that this distinction could not be made. The rest is just the regurgitation of local folklore about the tribe by others in the area.
2) Genetic mutation due to severe inbreeding led to a tribe with severe facial deformities, possibly even deformities only affecting those with a Y-chromosome. If you don't believe this to be possible, look up the ostrich-foot people in Africa. Some people's feet look like ostrich feet - maybe some people's faces look like dog faces.
3) Some combination of 1) and 2).
4) Dog-headed people really exist.
Hey Carl. You might like my series on St-Christopher which I wrote quite a ways back, trying to explain what this means. If you are interested, it could be a subject to talk about on thinkspot as they have been pushing for collaborations there. Think about it.
We also have these in Southern Slavic mythology. We called them Psoglavi (literally Dogheads). They also had a single eye in the middle of their heads like Cyclopses
In Hungary the Tatars are referred to as the Dog Headed riders.
I've heard Europeans often called anyone (especially steppe nomads) coming from the east Dog Headed (including pre-christian Hungarians).
I always assumed, because the Tatars use a Dog/Wolves head in their flags and eastern European/Central Asian nomads generally use a lot of wolf related symbolism, that it kinda evolved from that association.