I’m really glad you did this. And did it with the intention of really paying attention to the slight differences. Many times you simply state 99% of folks would love it.but for what you want and the rest of 1%. And so happy to to here about the underdrive something we talked about before I think great research.
A buddy & I just bought 2 of the new Holmes Hobby 050 motors. He got the 66t I got the 55t I have much more wheel speed than he does but he has way more torque. I drove his and it wasn’t often that I felt I needed wheel speed the torque was making up for it. I put the 55t in a new Deadbolt & I felt it was way better than stock or the same or better than the other 050’s that I have. Btw the 66t was running on v2. I moved the 55t to a Powerwagon build I working on which is based on a v2 JLU I want to see how it preforms there. Think I need to put my Injora Pro on one of my Momentum’s & see what it will do. Thanks Josh for all this useful information.
Heck yeah, thanks for sharing. The key is the underdrive for this motor, otherwise the startup is a little too high to be given this rating. It’s torquey af but without the slow speed control, it’s not my favorite. Kraig picked up two of the Holmes hobbies motors too. I’m running the cr 18 050 motor today and you’ll want to see this. I’ll see if I can get those motors from Kraig and give them a run as well. Thanks for being here! Hope you have a great one.
This motor series you’re doing is fire! Real interested seeing how this injora pro goes once It’s dialled in via the furitek app when I get it Texoma Style kicks ass!
It’s badass! Without the underdrive, though, the slow speed can be a little higher than I would like. That’s the trick. I have another video I’ll shoot today on the hobbyplus cr18 050 motor. It’s also very good and cheap. Super slow startup with decent torque on 2s. Thanks for hanging out! Hope you have a great day!
Most definitely Injora pro (purple can) 30% overdrive front and back. Mofo buzzsaw on stock gearing good too. All on 2s reliable. Enjoying the content from AZ.
Thus far the Injora Pro motor on V2 electronics has been my favorite brushed motor. The 66T Injora motor was a solid performer too (so smooth) but the Pro motor’s ability to power through stuff gives it the upper hand in my opinion. The Pro is also the only motor I’ve used that has survived overheating due to my negligent driving. Performance is slightly affected afterwards but I’ve yet to have any other motor survive and continue to run after being overheated. I thought this was maybe a lucky fluke but I’ve had 3 Pro motors continue to run after overheating and one has overheated multiple times. It’s also worth mentioning that the Pro motor handles heat better than any other motor I’ve used which is in part why I sometimes forget to monitor it’s temperature. Is it a built in feature? I don’t know but it’s impressive to say the least and much appreciated when I’m focused more on driving than my motor temp.
I'm using the torque beast 3.0, 5 with the furitek lizard pro and it's buttery smooth. It can go really slow almost like my furitek brushless system. Using the torque beast 3.0, 5 motor with my ax24 and lizard pro and I'm loving it.
Great frickin video again logo looks so good 👍🏻 My experience has been exactly the same. My uncle went micro komodo and switched back to the pro as well. It's just a no hassle no problem motor
I I love the purple 48t inJora pro. I’ve owned the torque beast I’ve owned the Meus 44t and I’ve tried 16:1 stock gear the 40:1 crawler gear and the Meus 25.8:1 My fav combo is the purple injora pro and the 25.8:1 gear. Tons of wheel speed even to cruise around but good crawl as well
What the heck. Are you kidding me did you go to film class yesterday. Cool new introduction. A little green screen action. Good times Josh. Progression.
Thanks bro but no green screen. I thought the same thing though when I first saw it. Just good lighting! Thanks for hangin, as always, my guy! Hope you have a great one!
Great video! I just put a pro in my JLU and was really not happy with it. However I swapped the electronics to V2 and it's now easily my favorite brushed setups. My only complaint is the lack of wheel speed. It's not a big deal as these are crawlers not bashers. It still doesn't come close to my brushless setup though. I haven't found any brushed setup that can match the slow crawl of a brushless setup. You have to be willing to pay up for that though so it's not always worth the cost increase.
If you have not tried the new lgrp brushless motor 13tooth steel pinion on loaded steel transmission I think it's way better than any brush system and I tried it all them little Motors I'll tell you another really good motor besides the purple one which is good is the makerfire really really good and then the Fury Tech also has a brushed motor that's really good really starting to figure this out if we need to spin the motor up the gear the tires down I still want to keep my wheels speed tho play right now I'm running to 1900 van with a 16 tooth pinion with overdrive to the front and rear just to get two wheels speed up but there for so I can keep the low super torque
Have you or anyone tried the hot racing 66t 050 vs the injora pro? Ive got the hr 66t on v2 stock gears and the slow crawl and torque seem to be great.
I've run the hot racing 66t, and both injoras, of the 3 I like the injora pro the best. I will say that I switched from the red injora to the 50t pro at the same time as I went from 23% front OD to 20% rear UD (from mofo), and it could benefit from more wheelspeed. gonna try 3s next (not running the stock esc obviously)
@@basc5026 I’m pretty sure the ox is the barrage, which is also a bunch of other motors. Might even be the same as this cr18 motor that I have in now and will be filming later today. Great motor!More coming. Hope y’all have a great one!
Just got my injora installed it's not the pro but it's Hella torque and I can tell the difference from stock but I don't know if I have something to tight it doesn't sound like it used to it's a growling sound more then a wine do I have something to tight
Maybe? Wheels nuts are the first place to check. The spur gear can also be another friction point if you over tighten it. Let me know if you figure it out. Thanks for hanging out. Hope you have a great one!
What do you mean by "underdrive" ? I understand that they call it overdrive when a 13 or 14 front and a 16 rear makes the front turn faster but why do they call the 12 "underdrive" on the Injora website. And for the motor i will stay with the purple injora anyway because its the only thing i can get at a reasonable price here in europe.
I guess I didn’t submit my comment last night. Sorry! MOFO sells an underdrive gear for the rear end. It’s got more teeth. I don’t know if anyone else selling one yet. I don’t think I would overdrive a brushed motor, at this point, even though that’s what I did from the beginning. On the brushless setups, it’s fine. On the brushed, I’d rather have the dominant torque for all the time smooth driving and sacrifice a little on the wheel speed. If I need the speed, just drop a 3s pack and we rippin til we flip! Hope that helps. Holler if you have more questions. Hope you have a great day.
Dont know how or why, but the torque beast 50 3.0 almost completely ruined the hobby. It left some of the metal! Spur gear teeth bent/etched after I installed it and had a short run with it. After a remesh and a second opinion from an RC guy I know, still slips and cogs like crazy. Using all mod3 sizes. I thought maybe a loose or damaged transmission may be the culprit so i replaced it with a new one, but the issues persist and completely slips with any incline. Biggest regret and so many hours lost on what I'm guessing is just a bad motor. But at their price, its concerning. 2 other injoras work just fine, but they're in another vehicle. So I've decided to just go brushless on this one and pick up the Komodo kit, just need to save for the lizard pro/ultimate. My advice, definitely stay away from the torque beast! 😬
The injora pro is still the best slow crawling 050, in my opinion. If you can get it to go slow enough, the sammix is crazy! Thanks for sharing bro. Hope you have a great one.
So far as I know, the ox is basically the barrage which is also used in all kinds of stuff. Very good motor. My buddy is sending a car out pretty soon and he runs one, so we’ll show it off. Thanks for the suggestion. Hope you have a great one!
I love the micro. I haven’t had it out in a minute since it ate the spur. It’s probably the best motor available for these things. We’ll find out! If you haven’t run the pro with underdrive, you’re missing out. Lol. Thanks for the feedback. Hope you have a great evening.
@@lgrc6120 They are gear ratios that are changing. By decreasing the tooth count on the gear, the wheel speed goes up. MOFO sells a 50% underdrive that goes in the rear. I’m not sure how many teeth it is. You would want stock in the front and the underdrive in the rear.
@@texomarc thanks bro, I get all that I run Craig's treal13 tooth up front in one and a 13 tooth injora in another rig. But they now sell a 12 tooth underdrive and a 12 tooth over drive, the difference must be in the gear that joins the drive shaft
What’s up bro! Awesome video ! I need help on what editor to use I want use my iPhone or iPad! Like I can’t make any videos longer than 2 min! Haha I want try pump some videos out! Have comp tomorrow in southern West Virginia going take me 3half hours drive ,, but love film it make couple videos! I need name for my channel right now just Evin Tacy bro haha sucks I got it PNuts rc adventures!
ATENTION!!! to any one interested in this kind of 0.50 motors should take time to watch the following video! ruclips.net/video/157wLxSU4T8/видео.html and after watching this video ...injora RULEZ you want more modulation and torque ! go with the 50T pro if you want more speed and less modulation go with 66T ! the only con i saw in these 2 injora motors is that they draw a little bit of mhA but if you want balance between voltage and mhA check the video and keep your eyes on the KATANA motor!!!
Liked to buy plastic gears, too. But can only buy whole transmission and all upgrade transmissions do come with annoying loud metal gears. Totally agree with you with brushless vs. brushed, preach this for over a year now. Seems Americans all are crazy for the brushless Furitek because of this propaganda, propaganda, propaganda on RUclips. In Europe most drive brushed. Try the CR-18 motor (Asiatees)!
I’ll mount it up tonight. It took awhile to sink in but thanks for the details you’ve painstakingly (maybe just tediously?) obtained and provided. I’m looking forward to comparing these brushless motors and then showing that compared to the brushed. Sure appreciate you man! Hope you have a great one!
I was thinking about this earlier and I’m pretty sure the cr-18 is the same gear. It does have a little extra space on the motor end. You’d end up with a bunch of extra gears but the hobbyplus gear set is cheap. Can’t remember how much.
@@texomarc I have a ton of Hobby Plus CR-18 and CR-24 and also RGT 1/24 gears here, super cheap (Asiatees, bought long time ago). Never tested on SCX24 so far. However, pinion is 12t (vs. 11t SCX24 and 10t EazyRC). Should probably try, too.
@@texomarc I do not think The CR-18 050 will be better, but as good and a lot cheaper. I paid about 5 bucks for the CR-18 motor, 13 bucks for the Injora Pro and 25 (or 30?) bucks for the Mofo Torquebeast. Big difference... But the Injora Pro is by far easiest to get, all around the world (Injora, Amazon Ali). (In fact I even paid only 4 bucks for the CR-18 motor, was on sale, about 2 years ago, 13 bucks for the Injora Pro on Injora website and only 22 for a pack of 2 here on Amazon, injora "deal" - motors are much more expensive actually than some months ago. But bought the Mofo Torquebeast for the "initial" quite expensive price (plus shipping, customs).
I’m really glad you did this. And did it with the intention of really paying attention to the slight differences. Many times you simply state 99% of folks would love it.but for what you want and the rest of 1%. And so happy to to here about the underdrive something we talked about before I think great research.
Great content
I run 2 purple injora motors. One motor has 9 tooth pinion, v1.
Another motor has 24 tooth pinion v2 in monster truck build.
A buddy & I just bought 2 of the new Holmes Hobby 050 motors. He got the 66t I got the 55t I have much more wheel speed than he does but he has way more torque. I drove his and it wasn’t often that I felt I needed wheel speed the torque was making up for it. I put the 55t in a new Deadbolt & I felt it was way better than stock or the same or better than the other 050’s that I have. Btw the 66t was running on v2. I moved the 55t to a Powerwagon build I working on which is based on a v2 JLU I want to see how it preforms there.
Think I need to put my Injora Pro on one of my Momentum’s & see what it will do. Thanks Josh for all this useful information.
Heck yeah, thanks for sharing. The key is the underdrive for this motor, otherwise the startup is a little too high to be given this rating. It’s torquey af but without the slow speed control, it’s not my favorite. Kraig picked up two of the Holmes hobbies motors too. I’m running the cr 18 050 motor today and you’ll want to see this. I’ll see if I can get those motors from Kraig and give them a run as well. Thanks for being here! Hope you have a great one.
This motor series you’re doing is fire! Real interested seeing how this injora pro goes once It’s dialled in via the furitek app when I get it
Texoma Style kicks ass!
It’s badass! Without the underdrive, though, the slow speed can be a little higher than I would like. That’s the trick. I have another video I’ll shoot today on the hobbyplus cr18 050 motor. It’s also very good and cheap. Super slow startup with decent torque on 2s. Thanks for hanging out! Hope you have a great day!
Love your honesty!
I'm running 66t holmes hobbies in a few rigs its a smooth crawling beast of a motor
Most definitely Injora pro (purple can)
30% overdrive front and back.
Mofo buzzsaw on stock gearing good too.
All on 2s reliable.
Enjoying the content from AZ.
Nice!!….I’m runnin the injora (red) it gets hot as hell but it hasn’t failed me yet 🤷🏼♂️ I’m diggin the brushed motors
I feel ya man. Playing is different from playing and filming and editing.
I have the Injora Pro with Furitek Iguana and 33% underdrive and she can slow crawl pretty damn good!
I love my injora pros as well. Does Dirk have your address? If so he has my info. I’ll send one of these samix to test on the furitek
Thus far the Injora Pro motor on V2 electronics has been my favorite brushed motor. The 66T Injora motor was a solid performer too (so smooth) but the Pro motor’s ability to power through stuff gives it the upper hand in my opinion. The Pro is also the only motor I’ve used that has survived overheating due to my negligent driving. Performance is slightly affected afterwards but I’ve yet to have any other motor survive and continue to run after being overheated. I thought this was maybe a lucky fluke but I’ve had 3 Pro motors continue to run after overheating and one has overheated multiple times. It’s also worth mentioning that the Pro motor handles heat better than any other motor I’ve used which is in part why I sometimes forget to monitor it’s temperature. Is it a built in feature? I don’t know but it’s impressive to say the least and much appreciated when I’m focused more on driving than my motor temp.
I'm using the torque beast 3.0, 5 with the furitek lizard pro and it's buttery smooth. It can go really slow almost like my furitek brushless system. Using the torque beast 3.0, 5 motor with my ax24 and lizard pro and I'm loving it.
Great frickin video again logo looks so good 👍🏻
My experience has been exactly the same. My uncle went micro komodo and switched back to the pro as well. It's just a no hassle no problem motor
I I love the purple 48t inJora pro. I’ve owned the torque beast I’ve owned the Meus 44t and
I’ve tried 16:1 stock gear the 40:1 crawler gear and the Meus 25.8:1
My fav combo is the purple injora pro and the 25.8:1 gear. Tons of wheel speed even to cruise around but good crawl as well
Love it! Love ur vids like I’ve said so many times. Best channel for scx24s always love it bruh
What the heck. Are you kidding me did you go to film class yesterday. Cool new introduction. A little green screen action. Good times Josh. Progression.
Thanks bro but no green screen. I thought the same thing though when I first saw it. Just good lighting! Thanks for hangin, as always, my guy! Hope you have a great one!
Great video! I just put a pro in my JLU and was really not happy with it. However I swapped the electronics to V2 and it's now easily my favorite brushed setups. My only complaint is the lack of wheel speed. It's not a big deal as these are crawlers not bashers. It still doesn't come close to my brushless setup though. I haven't found any brushed setup that can match the slow crawl of a brushless setup. You have to be willing to pay up for that though so it's not always worth the cost increase.
If you have not tried the new lgrp brushless motor 13tooth steel pinion on loaded steel transmission I think it's way better than any brush system and I tried it all them little Motors I'll tell you another really good motor besides the purple one which is good is the makerfire really really good and then the Fury Tech also has a brushed motor that's really good really starting to figure this out if we need to spin the motor up the gear the tires down I still want to keep my wheels speed tho play right now I'm running to 1900 van with a 16 tooth pinion with overdrive to the front and rear just to get two wheels speed up but there for so I can keep the low super torque
Have you or anyone tried the hot racing 66t 050 vs the injora pro? Ive got the hr 66t on v2 stock gears and the slow crawl and torque seem to be great.
I've run the hot racing 66t, and both injoras, of the 3 I like the injora pro the best.
I will say that I switched from the red injora to the 50t pro at the same time as I went from 23% front OD to 20% rear UD (from mofo), and it could benefit from more wheelspeed. gonna try 3s next (not running the stock esc obviously)
I’m team injora! For the money it’s the way to go. Great vid Tex
The only other brushed motor I’d like you to try out is the ox motor from eBay
Yeah I heard 2FM RC say good things about that motor
@@basc5026
I’m pretty sure the ox is the barrage, which is also a bunch of other motors. Might even be the same as this cr18 motor that I have in now and will be filming later today. Great motor!More coming. Hope y’all have a great one!
Which Torque Beast is this? the 30 or the 50?
Just got my injora installed it's not the pro but it's Hella torque and I can tell the difference from stock but I don't know if I have something to tight it doesn't sound like it used to it's a growling sound more then a wine do I have something to tight
Maybe? Wheels nuts are the first place to check. The spur gear can also be another friction point if you over tighten it. Let me know if you figure it out. Thanks for hanging out. Hope you have a great one!
The mesh of the spur and pinion may be too tight? If the motor is all the way up in the slots, it may be too tight.
What do you mean by "underdrive" ? I understand that they call it overdrive when a 13 or 14 front and a 16 rear makes the front turn faster but why do they call the 12 "underdrive" on the Injora website. And for the motor i will stay with the purple injora anyway because its the only thing i can get at a reasonable price here in europe.
I guess I didn’t submit my comment last night. Sorry! MOFO sells an underdrive gear for the rear end. It’s got more teeth. I don’t know if anyone else selling one yet. I don’t think I would overdrive a brushed motor, at this point, even though that’s what I did from the beginning. On the brushless setups, it’s fine. On the brushed, I’d rather have the dominant torque for all the time smooth driving and sacrifice a little on the wheel speed. If I need the speed, just drop a 3s pack and we rippin til we flip! Hope that helps. Holler if you have more questions. Hope you have a great day.
Dont know how or why, but the torque beast 50 3.0 almost completely ruined the hobby.
It left some of the metal! Spur gear teeth bent/etched after I installed it and had a short run with it. After a remesh and a second opinion from an RC guy I know, still slips and cogs like crazy. Using all mod3 sizes.
I thought maybe a loose or damaged transmission may be the culprit so i replaced it with a new one, but the issues persist and completely slips with any incline. Biggest regret and so many hours lost on what I'm guessing is just a bad motor. But at their price, its concerning.
2 other injoras work just fine, but they're in another vehicle. So I've decided to just go brushless on this one and pick up the Komodo kit, just need to save for the lizard pro/ultimate.
My advice, definitely stay away from the torque beast! 😬
The injora pro is still the best slow crawling 050, in my opinion. If you can get it to go slow enough, the sammix is crazy! Thanks for sharing bro. Hope you have a great one.
@@texomarc Hey thanks for the recommendations, and appreciate l the content you post, too!
try OX motor.
So far as I know, the ox is basically the barrage which is also used in all kinds of stuff. Very good motor. My buddy is sending a car out pretty soon and he runs one, so we’ll show it off. Thanks for the suggestion. Hope you have a great one!
You hurt my feelings 🤣🤣🤣
I run 2 purple injora's but my micro Komodo is King
I love the micro. I haven’t had it out in a minute since it ate the spur. It’s probably the best motor available for these things. We’ll find out! If you haven’t run the pro with underdrive, you’re missing out. Lol. Thanks for the feedback. Hope you have a great evening.
@@texomarc yes under drives untried is that injora 12 tooth underdrive ok and I don't get it 12 is less than 16?
@@lgrc6120
They are gear ratios that are changing. By decreasing the tooth count on the gear, the wheel speed goes up. MOFO sells a 50% underdrive that goes in the rear. I’m not sure how many teeth it is. You would want stock in the front and the underdrive in the rear.
@@texomarc thanks bro, I get all that I run Craig's treal13 tooth up front in one and a 13 tooth injora in another rig. But they now sell a 12 tooth underdrive and a 12 tooth over drive, the difference must be in the gear that joins the drive shaft
What’s up bro! Awesome video ! I need help on what editor to use I want use my iPhone or iPad! Like I can’t make any videos longer than 2 min! Haha I want try pump some videos out! Have comp tomorrow in southern West Virginia going take me 3half hours drive ,, but love film it make couple videos! I need name for my channel right now just Evin Tacy bro haha sucks I got it PNuts rc adventures!
ATENTION!!! to any one interested in this kind of 0.50 motors should take time to watch the following video!
ruclips.net/video/157wLxSU4T8/видео.html
and after watching this video ...injora RULEZ you want more modulation and torque ! go with the 50T pro if you want more speed and less modulation go with 66T ! the only con i saw in these 2 injora motors is that they draw a little bit of mhA but if you want balance between voltage and mhA check the video and keep your eyes on the KATANA motor!!!
Liked to buy plastic gears, too. But can only buy whole transmission and all upgrade transmissions do come with annoying loud metal gears. Totally agree with you with brushless vs. brushed, preach this for over a year now. Seems Americans all are crazy for the brushless Furitek because of this propaganda, propaganda, propaganda on RUclips. In Europe most drive brushed. Try the CR-18 motor (Asiatees)!
I’ll mount it up tonight. It took awhile to sink in but thanks for the details you’ve painstakingly (maybe just tediously?) obtained and provided. I’m looking forward to comparing these brushless motors and then showing that compared to the brushed. Sure appreciate you man! Hope you have a great one!
I was thinking about this earlier and I’m pretty sure the cr-18 is the same gear. It does have a little extra space on the motor end. You’d end up with a bunch of extra gears but the hobbyplus gear set is cheap. Can’t remember how much.
New video coming soon featuring the cr-18 motor. I gotta drive it some more. It definitely isn’t a let down!
@@texomarc I have a ton of Hobby Plus CR-18 and CR-24 and also RGT 1/24 gears here, super cheap (Asiatees, bought long time ago). Never tested on SCX24 so far. However, pinion is 12t (vs. 11t SCX24 and 10t EazyRC). Should probably try, too.
@@texomarc I do not think The CR-18 050 will be better, but as good and a lot cheaper.
I paid about 5 bucks for the CR-18 motor, 13 bucks for the Injora Pro and 25 (or 30?) bucks for the Mofo Torquebeast. Big difference...
But the Injora Pro is by far easiest to get, all around the world (Injora, Amazon Ali).
(In fact I even paid only 4 bucks for the CR-18 motor, was on sale, about 2 years ago, 13 bucks for the Injora Pro on Injora website and only 22 for a pack of 2 here on Amazon, injora "deal" - motors are much more expensive actually than some months ago. But bought the Mofo Torquebeast for the "initial" quite expensive price (plus shipping, customs).