Defunctland: The History of Coney Island
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- Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024
- In this fiery episode of Defunctland, Kevin tells five stories from New York's infamous playground of pleasure, Coney Island.
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ASPCA: You can’t hang the elephant, that’s too cruel!
Also ASPCA: *agrees to a plan that’s at least 10x worse*
I was thinking this. Wouldn't hanging an elephant kill it even faster than hanging a human because of how heavy they are?
It's got major PETA energy not gonna lie
@@jukes4499 the neck may be stronger though. A human neck breaks easily.
Ugh
You see the 10x, in their minds, It was only 10x
"Admissions to the burning ruins 10¢"
That's goals, right there
Dude is brilliant!
Most would see a disaster
he, however, saw an opportunity
The hustle never stops
CEO grindset
I want to sell sand to beachgoers
“Any touching was reserved for the home...”
Well that makes sense for the ti -
“...and the giant elephant brothel a few feet away.”
I’M SORRY WHAT
LOL
I had to pause the video from laughing too much
He said "the giant elephant brothel a few feet away"
Please make a Defunctland video of the elephant brothel.
Excuse me I have to go see the elephant
The fact that to this day Czech language calls all amusement parks "lunapark" just shows how much of an impact it had on culture worldwide.
Neat.
we do the same in Italy lol, when we don't call it 'parco divertimenti' (it means funs park basically)
Learn something new every day. 😄
same here in Hebrew land
We have this term in russia aswell,me and my dad used to call them that
"They got to touch... WOMAN SHOULDER. Or as it was known in 1897: third base." Absolute perfection. I wish I was that clever.
Fortunately, by the 1950's the base rules had loosened, by the '60's "freeball" was in general play... ;))
Ain’t nothing lewder than a female shoulder
16:32, btw
That's one of the most cliche jokes possible. If you're finding this 'clever' then I only feel pity
When I showed that to my dad, he burst out laughing. XD
"Or as it was known in 1897: third base." God Kevin's deadpan delivery is just absolutely perfect on jokes like that. I love this channel so much.
This channel is a treasure
When I showed this to my parents, my dad burst out laughing at that. XD If it makes my dad laugh, it's funny IMO.
assuming home base is the same, that's a big leap.
Yeah, you had to get your eroticism where you could back then. Guys would admire a "well turned ankle". Unless it's apocryphal, the custom of putting those paper ruffle things on roasted turkey legs, was because it made it more polite.
@@Boggarthh Whrn you’re married, You can touch her ankles!
“Moses had a complicated relationship with the lower class, in that he did not seem to like them very much, but definitely could not say that out loud”
Kevin, I love you
This is the most underrated quote of the episode
A true red-blooded American Lich that Moses...
Robert Moses would have loved the movie "Cars" because there were no people - just cars. Cars that built themselves, taught themselves to speak, laid down their own roads and drove themselves on the roads. He could have made that speech Judge Doom delivers in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", about his vision of endless highways where cars get on and cars get off, all day, all night.
@@planescaped And here I thought Brennan had made him up. Turns out he was a real life monster.
Damned [double-checks timeline] 1930s cancel culture, just out here ruining America.
"Bragg wanted him in the Brig, but Boynton began to brag on the suit. Bragg bought the brag and kept Boynton out of the Brig allowing him to attempt his stunt." God those are some great sentences
I think we can agree the only humane way to kill an elephant is to build a brothel inside of it. Like, gentlemen.
It resounds with the elephants in the room.
And then set said brothel on fire.
Tip of the hat. Sir
kill one life, make many lives
Brothels disgust me
Slaps roof of Coney island
This bad boy can fit so many fires in it
and interesting attractions
>California has entered the chat
"This thing can fit so much racism and animal corpses inside!"
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer sounds like something i'd hear a vegan say about the average republican
One of the most underrated aspects of Defunctland is seeing all the classic concept art and blue prints. Theres such a classic and interesting style in there thats great to see.
Yeah really. Kudos to Kevin for that shadow-picture animation. What program did you use for that?
andyjay729 Adobe After Effects for compositing, but I actually created and puppeteered the figures and filmed them.
@@Defunctland Just watched the episode, I have to say what really sets your channel aside from all the other amusement parks one is in how professional every episode really looks, and the individual theme you give each one in relationship to it's parks that you go over. Thanks for making excellent content.
@@Defunctland What!?!?! ..feels light headed.. Can I truly fall deeper in love with this channel any more than I have right now?? .......I want to thank YOU and all your patrons. All of you have my heart in your hands.
I love the concept art tremendously. Evoking imagination all around
The premature incubator thing is my favourite historical moment. They were free for the patients and there names weren't shown anywhere for privacy reasons. Not only did they have wet nurses but the wet nurses had special chef's so the babies had the best possible nutrition! They were there for decades and grown up patients would come back as adults and meet the parents of current patients.
I did not expect any of this. That's almost wholesome. Still creepy, but I would have expected _much_ worse from the Gilded Age.
Still sounds absolutely freaking insane for people to pay to see babies in incubators but we least it was mostly good.
It helped develop many techniques for premature which up till then was just good luck.
@@krunk28 Before they would literally just wait for the babies to die because they thought there was nothing that could be done. I watched another video on this topic and was blown away by how much these bizarre-sounding exhibitions actually helped advance the care for preemies.
ok that's good, I was a premature baby so when it got to that part I was really concerned but at least they cared for the babies they treated as exhibits! give credit where it's due I suppose, which isn't many places in this case
"Bragg wanted him in the brig, but Boyton began to brag on the suit. Bragg bought the brag and kept Boyton out of the brig."
I love this.
The real iteachvader! hope you're doing well with soundfonts, music, RUclipspoops and more!
@@stanley8006 I actually just released a new tune tonight! You can listen to it on my SoundCloud.
@@iteachvader wow that was a fast reply! definitely checking it out, thanks
It was slightly confusing, I must say
Tongue twister indeed could make a song out of that
"He had a complicated relationship with the lower class, in that he did not seem to like them very much but definitely could not say that out loud."
There are so many amazing lines in this one; you have outdone yourself, for the record.
he is such a monster
cute pic
"While Culver and Sea Beach were busy measuring their docks"
Honestly, the script for this video is an art piece in and of itself.
100%
"He could sell sand to beach-goes. Which he did when he was 14." Love it.
"Admission to the ashes... 10c"
Dude was a hustler
"piece of Bullshcript Artwork," to be Precise.
lol I came here to make some comment about a "dock measuring contest", and found it done for me. Cheers.
"...and taken to the ship's skipper, Captain Bragg. Bragg wanted him in the brig, but Boynton began to brag on the suit. Bragg bought the brag and kept Boynton out of the brig."
Poor Topsy. I read about her. She was actually innocent and a perpetual victim of human cruelty. The human she "killed" was an abusive "Trailer" who fed her lit cigarettes mixed with her peanuts just because he liked her terrified and pained reaction.
my heart is broken, it’s so soulless
Nah she killed a spectator. She attacked biut didn't kill a trainer before that.
@@theonevertigo9334 ok? Why kill her though
@@akiraeatsguitarpicks491 Literally just because the owners couldn't be asked to continue finding trainers or looking after her, and saw the concept of an public elephant execution as a final way to make profit from her.
I knew about this from the Bob’s Burgers episode.
“Personal contact was something expected to remain at the home... or the elephant brothel down the road”
I never thought I’d hear that phrase
One of the best lines from the video Tbh
Or eventually Japanese love hotels, something Nintendo briefly ran during the mid 1900s while transitioning from cards to toys.
@@DoswarePictures which later became motels. Man, it's a weird world we live in...
How you gonna tell me that the first amusement park was created down the street from an elephant brothel? Good Times? Check. A Theme? Check. Nah, I think the Boynton's park was the second park built down the street from the first.
Red Ram Suddenly Moulin Rouge makes much more sense,
Love how it wasn’t okay for people to hold hands, but there was an entire elephant brothel lol
As long as it was inside. Touching a shoulder would warrant you to 3rd base.
What happens in the elephant, stays in the elephant.
Brothels were specifically a place where social norms didn't apply back then. You paid to indulge in your lust with women who had no social standing and where no one knew you. If your visits were to be made public knowledge it would of course be terribly embarrassing, but usually it was just not talked about, even if others knew where you were going on the weekends.
@@troodon1096 the elephant never forgets tho...
@@Stingraysquad backwards mentality that's delusional western society have a wife at home but seek out lustful paid for services. Why even act like monogamy is the ideal if can't even follow the "standard"
"Topsy must die. She is a bad elephant and is getting worse," are not sentences I expected to read.
They really all had a vendetta against this one elephant.
@Nob the Knave And film it
Topsy was the real mastermind behind the cascade that was to cause the world wars.
You thought Bob’s Burgers was lying? Nah dude
Remember Dumbo when Dumbo’s mother was locked up and kept from her baby? That traumatized me as a child.
Though I already knew about Topsy, I couldn’t bear watching that section of this episode and skipped it. I’ve seen pictures of her hung. I sure won’t watch her being killed. It wasn’t just cruel, it was a showcase. We’ve come a long way in criminalizing animal abuse, but we have so far to go. Please help fund your local animal rescue organizations. And please spay and neuter your pets! Among other benefits, it will help prevent shelters from becoming overcrowded and having to put down innocent animals. Even no-kill shelters will wind up making room by shuffling animals to shelters that do kill. And that’s just referring to household pets.
Tiger King sickened me. Abuse of exotic animals is rampant in the US - there’s even a black market for parrots who are smuggled in cruel conditions. And then these animals are often not cared for properly. I’m personally involved in dog rescue, but there’s other ways to help all animals. I’m sure the ASPCA has come a long way since the tragic (and uneccesaey and cruel) execution of Topsy, but there are also smaller groups for protecting performing or exotic animals like elephants and tigers, etc. Just look into them first to see their track record and standing before you get involved or donate. Please help any wise way you can!
i love kevin defunctland because sometimes he'll just say shit like how a dude "died by a polar bear" and then move on with the video like it's totally normal
The polar bear speaks for itself
Or "while they were measuring their docks" lol
dude casually mentioning an attraction where you can view premature babies in incubators and moving on like it's nothing
Classic New York
It was the guy that already lost an arm training a Lion. I think most of us could put 2 & 2 together to get 4.
Coney Island’s history could almost have its own miniseries, this was interesting.
yes, and this video had far to much information cramped into it. You need to let it breathe more, this was material for at least 2 hours of documentary, not 40 minutes. (but hey, that at least showed the effort on display here so there is that ^^)
I had no idea all the parks closed in the first place
I agree. I need more. Much, much more. I have always been fascinated by the park even as a little boy.
Ralph Bakshi wanted to make a film about Coney Island, but has struggled ever since Cool World bombed.
Yeah, I was actually thinking the same thing while watching this.
The sheer straight faced humor of this episode lmao
That’s just how Kevin is
King of deadpan
So good. I’m eating it all up.
"While Culver and Seabeach were busy measuring their docks" Laughed way too hard at that.....
Legotruck82 came to the comments to say it but I figured someone already caught it 😂
“Measuring their docks” hilarious
still a lot of dock measuring going on.
The dock has to be at least 20 feet for me to park my boat on it
Damn i literally went to the comments to make this joke hahahah
Was he trying to say dick or cock
@@carlrygwelski586 dock
The dichotomy between this being one of the funniest defunctland episodes and all the animal deaths is insane
Never forget Topsy. Mistreated, ill-used, then cruelly slaughtered. I've seen Edison's film and it'll haunt me forever.
But didn’t you hear?
She’s a BAD ELEPHANT!
just consider, if they wanted to cruelly hang her, how did they treat her when she was alive? she probably killed trainers out of distress, the poor thing
@@sambradley9091 Burned on the trunk by some drunk with a cigar, who wouldn't go a little nuts?
Sadly, because building an area for her to just be a regular elephant, like a zoo, for the visitor to glare at her while she is eating leaves and peanuts had been considered very boring for an amusement park.
Good ole Ed. Huge p.o.s that was filled with jealousy towards anyone who also was creative and intelligent. He also has no qualms stealing other people's ideas
I find Luna park the saddest. It seemed that the two men had a real passion for creating fun for their visitors. When one of them died, the other was clearly distressed and couldn't do it on his own.
I think of it a bit like Disneyland if Roy had died before Walt. I don't believe Disney parks would have survived that. Walt was the creator and dreamer, Roy was the money guy.
"Admission to the burning ruins 10 cents."
Dang these people were smart businessmen!
Business Level: Ferengi
He needed money to pay for the rebuild somehow. Fire proof steel wasnt cheap back then
Undrave lol it would be enough to probably convince Picard
Oh, Victorian-era capitalism
I guess that's how we'll pay off the national debt: charge admission to see the burning ruins. :-(
Why am I even surprised that the villain is once again Robert Moses.
The Michael Eisner of New York City
It all comes back to Robert fucking Moses.
He was such a demonic genuis
Guy basically destroy NY and it's effect the city a century later
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
brooo literally when he brought up robert moses i was like it ALL CAME FULL CIRCLE TO ROBERT FUCKING MOSES literally what i said to myself this dude is a menace
I love this episode so much, it has so many powerful lines like "lady shoulders, or as it was called: second base" and "boobs are ok if for bible reasons" and everything about poor Topsy
Come on, they weren't THAT prudish, it was third base! 16:32
Lmao topsy was gold, rip
“…busy measuring their decks…”
@@remy.martian docks
This is one of the best Defunctland scripts yet. The jokes were just flying by.
Can we just stop and appreciate the truly artistic visuals of this entire episode? I cannot believe this production quality, wow.
God, How Kevin evolved from a simple teller of history to making Defunctland an incredibly unique storyteller of ride history is amazing. I’m glad it’s still growing.
Yeah I did it all.
I have one hand with three fingers. It took me 2hrs and 57 minutes. I got paid in coneys which is the money that was made for the video
Fascinating documentary.
Incredible archival film footage as well
It made me turn my adblock off, I was like I shouldnt be watching this for free
"This was yet another example of Coney Island finding the perfect overlap between conservative families and local perverts." Dude, who ever wrote the narration for this, that line was Priceless! Had me lmao!
Oh!!! The baby incubators! I heard about those on the sawbones podcast. Those were really cool actually. The funds from the attraction were used for to pay for nurses, upkeep of the incubators, and the needs of the infants! This revolutionized care of premature babies. Parents willingly had their babies in that show because, no joke, the infants wouldn’t have survived otherwise! There wasn’t anyone else doing premature baby care as successfully as that show!
Ayyyyy fellow sawbones listener
"a fire started in the Dragon's Gorge attraction, because of course it did."
Thanks for making me spit coffee all over my monitor
Did they ever eliminate the dragon as the cause of the blaze? Did he escape the burning attraction? Enquiring minds want to know. I want to know. ;)
@@ssbohio, you must be the same age as me, because no one else on here was around in the 80s to get that commercial reference.
"Boobs are ok, if for bible reasons." I'm going to quote that forever.
Hey man, the Bible has hentai, it's called "The Song of Solomon", if you think im joking, read it yourself, I'm surprised it hasn't been adapted into an anime yet.
The Bible is a book of contradictions. If it’s the New Testament then breasts are for delivering nourishment to baby Jesus. if it’s the Old Testament then titties are there solely to appeal to man’s depravity and act as an essential aid in achieving tumult in preparation for coitus vaginitus ...or even coitus rectumus. Thankyou
@@drinkwater319 Vaginitis is an inflammation of the vagina that can result in discharge, itching and pain. I bet it stinks too.
"busy measuring their docks" caught my ear! (while talking about the 2 developers vying to build the longest pier).
@matt fahringer I'm fairly sure that the narrator had to re-edit that docks part a few times. I'm not really sure I could have not giggled at THAT obvious metaphor
Men! Size has ALWAYS been an issue even THEN. But if the.motion of the ocean isn't right (hurricane, high rides etc), the size of that dock won't mean a thing. Fellas let THAT metaphor sink in for ya woman.😁 ladies ya welcome!! 😉
“All our cast of. Characters died. Most sickness and disease, one by polar bear.” Wait what?!?
Yeah I'm gonna need some explanation
-“This guy died from pneumonia, the next guy from a disease, the one after from pneumonia, the following one from a disease and the last guy...”
-Let me guess: pneumonia?
-“No, polar bear attack.”
-Huh?
Yeah, I need to know more about that.
I had the same reaction and had to go look it up. According to an archived newspaper article I found, he was training the polar bear when it attacked him. Which makes sense, given his profession, but leaves me vaguely disappointed. I'd half-envisioned him wrestling them in the wild or something.
The one-armed lion tamer was out of arms for the bear, and the bear was not pleased.
I grew up in Brooklyn, and my Mother and Grandparents lived on Coney Island for most of their lives. My grandfather even worked at Steeplechase Pier and Luna Park as a kid. So I've been told SO many stories.
My Great Grandfather was an orthodox Jewish man who would commonly use a local bathhouse on the boardwalk (it was the Great Depression, and public bathouses were generally cheaper, especially when raising 8 children).
One day, while he was out, they learned that there was a fire and the bathhouse burned down, and were relieved when he came home safe. But he refused to talk about it. In reality, he was there when the fire broke out. He desperately helped people get out of the building, but needed to quickly cover himself before exiting. The only thing on-hand, was a woman's dress he found.
So you can imagine the family's face when a local paper arrived the next day to show my Orthodox Jewish Great Grandfather running out of a bathhouse in a woman's dress on the front page.
(Been looking for a copy of it for years, but it seems to be lost to time, unfortunately)
HELP SDDSFCFVHDTG
Check out library archives they typically have old newspapers preserved. I know for a fact if you live in NYC the NYC public library has archived decades of public newspapers going back to the 1800s I believe so you might be able to find a copy there if you ask a librarian
What a great story. Thanks for sharing!
Kevin: There were still things inside that needed to be saved, namely the caged animals...
Me: Oh no, the lions
kevin: And the babies
Me: OH GOD, THE BABIES!
I had the same reaction, I had already forgotten about the babies 😶
I find it strange the babies seemed to have permanent residence there. I thought for sure it was a "special event" type attraction that only lasted a few days or weeks so they could take them back to, you know, an _actual medical facility._
I was prematurely born by a month, and even with almost a 100 years of medical advancement I still had to be treated for breathing problems and kept in an incubator tank for a few weeks. How the hell did an amusement park manage to keep any of those premature new borns alive and stable?
@@rockinrootbeer1795 HEY, so it's actually a really cool story I highly recommend looking into; the man who brought the incubators to dreamland was a doctor himself and incubators were brand new tech. He brought incubators over from Europe and tried to get them into hospitals but none of the hospitals wanted them, convinced that he was full of it. So the man instead brought the incubators to convey island, staffed the attraction with doctors and nurses, and made it completely sanitary and hygienic, more so than a lot of hospitals at the time, saving the lives of HUNDREDS of premature babies.
@@9206156175 wonder if any of them were called conney babies.
@@9206156175
Fascinating stuff, that is.
Thanks for the info!
"Breasts are okay, if they're for bible reasons."
Quote of the year
Only this channel
Holy Hooters!
@@panzerabwerkanone -batman!!
Between this and "touching each other is reserved for the home or the giant elephant brothel a few yards away", I am once again wondering for just how long the straights have not been alright.
@@MuddBstrd *tale as old as time*
You can't just skip over a guy getting killed by a polar bear.
He can't keep getting away with this
What would you do for a Klondike bar?
Contrary to popular depictions, that is what happens when you try to hug a polar bear.
The guy was ahead of his time. :)
Dude was a lion tamer who already lost an arm to a lion.
Doesn't take much to imagine what happened, really.
He lived like a madlad and he died like a madlad.
Grew up in Coney, Its heartbreaking to see how much renovating it has gone through now. Moses' plan of making Coney less of an area for low income families has finally gone through fruition, I had to move out because of gentrification. I would have loved to see Coney Island back in its hayday
brooo sameeeeee
coney island? more like baloney island 👎
rich people ruin everything. They're a cancer in every society.
I've lived in South Brooklyn all my life, originally in Manhattan Beach and now in the neighborhood of Sheepshead Bay. I have vague memories of the last few years of Astroland before the new Luna Part was built (I even worked their it's inaugural season). Unfortunately, all of the adjacent neighborhoods (sans Brighton Beach), Sheepshead especially, have been getting gentrified for the last 15 years at least, but at the very least, Coney is hell bent on staying an amusement park, thanks in large part to the preservation efforts of Coney Island USA, of which my mom is a regular ally. Right now, they're trying to stave off the development of a casino.
Stop being poor.
JESUS they done poor Topsy dirty. Poisoned, strangled, AND electrocuted?! For the entertainment of the masses?
"Now available on home video!"
Topsy was killed because she was dangerous. The death was recorded for the masses.
@@Xer0sama Or they could've, you know, put her back into the wild? I shouldn't expect good things from these times though.
@@jordyngalvan8558 Yeah, then she can go around killing people who happen to stumble across her without realizing! Great idea, Jordyn! :DDDDDD
Dangerous animals are put down for a reason, and it's not because humans are Captain Planet villains who just want to kill or abuse animals.
I assure you the death was very humane
For the time
“Topsy was poisoned, electrocuted and choked to death”
A bit overkill eh?
Best part was the ASPCA's declaration that it was deemed humane. Yeah, good going, guys.
I've seen that fotage of that poor animal being put down. It's so hartbreaking and infuriating at the same time. 😭🤬
I don't see how they can see that is humane they could have given it a huge dose of sleeping aid and either let it die that way or while I was asleep just put a large bullet in his head instantly killing it I don't see how that's humane even for the time
@manuel hernandez just like the video said it probably was the most humane method of putting down an animal that size they had seen even if it was horrendous. An injectable method of putting an animal of an elephants size to sleep hadn't even been invented yet and hanging was still acceptable method of killing people so they saw no problem with that. I'm not even sure if firearms capable of piercing an elephants skull were available yet.
Thank you Thomas Edison for filming that piece of animal abuse.
"he even brought an axe, in case of shark attack"
as one does
Axes are famously very easy to use in the water.
They didn’t have shark repellent back in those days.
Lol yeah, I would love to see how the "guy in rubber suit w axe vs shark" battle would play out. Sorry dude, I respect your chutzpah but my money's on the shark.
@@JLittleBass maybe it would work if he jus had the axe head? The handle would slow the swings down a LOT underwater so best bet mite b 2 try n punch tha shark in the face as one does but with an axe in ur fist.
@@JLittleBass best case, Shark A gets hacked to death, but between, you know, a swinging axe and a shark mouth full of shark teeth render his rubber inflatable less and less inflated, he slowly sinks into the water where all of Shark A's blood is attracting every other shark within the region.
Sharks always win. Don't mess around with apex predators that evolution has not really changed in a very long time. As a Florida man who fishes the Everglades and the Atlantic, I wouldn't be around without a healthy fear of sharks and alligators.
From someone who couldn't really care less about theme parks. You make an incredible documentary. I have been stuck watching for days
"Don't Fail to Visit Inside of the Elephant" is a sentence with a very threatening aura
well it did turn into a brothel
Okay, that whole part about Topsy had me laughing out loud. The subtle comedic timing of the pause before "...by hanging her from the neck in front of a paying audience." Then the newspaper text "...must die. She is a bad elephant." Then the ASPCA being happy about electrocution, and there being demand to film it...
The past really is a different country.
Different time, not country. Just wait until we are skeletons in the ground and future generations judge us with hindsight. We all can see the failings of our parents, and in your end shall not be different.
The ASPCA hasn't gotten much better. Look at that their involvement with the removal of wild horses from the West. They helped craft terrible legislation about 3 years ago.
@@hiitscourt the ASPCA is zealous bureaucracy and little pro-animal activism. PETA is zealous pro-animal activism and nothing else.
If those two merge, maybe we'd get one decent organisation
@@boooster101 Peta kills what, 95% of animals?
@@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 you're the guy who skips the whole movie and then complains that the ending didn't make sense.
That's what you did here. Otherwise your comment would be superfluous
Between "measuring their docks" and "as it was known in 1897, third base" I think they had too much fun writing this episode.
Also that line about finding a crossover between religious conservatives & local perverts.
"Bragg wanted him in the brig, but Boyton began to brag on the suit. Bragg bought the brag and kept Boyton out of the brig."
@@dimethylhexane Sounds like one of those tongue-twister rhymes.
The Dreamland fire sounds like the most amazing and intense film that hasn't been made.
That's For The Dumbo Movie
"Admission to the burning ruins, ten cents."
I heard that mic-drop. On paper.
Honestly if I saw that sign I would feel almost obligated to pay ten cents and visit the burning ruins.
I feel like this man was the truest embodiment of America there will ever been. A truly poetic, reflection on life, the loss of legacy, and the hope of creating something anew..... now gimme money.
i scrolled into the comments section to say this.
and you beat me to it.
good show sir i take my hat off to you.
in the hopes you'll drop a coin into it.
Dude had his park burn down TWICE and still outlasted all his competitors. What a legend.
I doubt he even did it to be cool, it was just the way he was. Which makes it even better.
“Our final story involves a man named Robert Moses”
New Yorkers: awww shit here it goes
I’ve always been of the opinion that alongside the Trump family, Robert Moses was NYC’s own personal anti-Christ.
@@patrickcross1571 lmao
@@patrickcross1571 I feel like if you dig deep enough, every single state has their own anti-christ. I'm still digging to find Georgia's.
@@potahtwah9591 Would probably depend on the politics. I know for the woodchucks around there it'd probably be Sherman for that little... 'incident' during the Civil War. Dunno who it'd be for the other crowds though.
Awww hell - Marie Tillhue (daughter of George) finally closed Steeplechase Park in 1964 while Robert Moses was still visible and had had by then built the 1964 Worlds Fair (as well as Adventure Park, both in nearby Queens). So who did Marie Tillhue sell Steeplechase Park to in 1964?
Why FRED TRUMP Sr., of course!!
My grandfather always used to complain when people left the lights on by saying "this place is lit up like luna park" and now I finally understand it?!?
And having all of the lights on increases the electricity bill
My grandfather's line (now my dad's) was "I don't own stock in ConEdison!"
Damn how old is your grandfather LMFAO😭😭
A few years ago, a 3D printer guy on Coney Island recreated Luna Park in miniature and populated it with 3D scanned figures of people who came to his booth.
"Why are there so many poor people around here?"
"Well, sir, I believe you'll find that the pay rates available to rank-and-file workers are--"
"I KNOW! The city is too ugly!"
I really wasn’t expecting Steeple Chase to last the longest out of the 3. What an underdog.
I'm old enough that I can remember when Steeplechase closed. End of an era.
@@jamesseaman2950 The steeplechase that was built for Coney Island ended it's life at Pirate's World in Dania, FL in 1972, along with several NY World's Fair rides. I got to ride it once during a Grateful Dead concert in '70.
It was the only time I ever saw the ride working. Today, only one horse remains, it's in a Coney Is Museum. I'll always wonder if it's the one I rode...
Probably because the Pavillion of fun was built to be fireproof
@@crankychris2 Go find out then
@@TheOnlyHollywood1 I don't remember much about the 'horse' I rode. I sure remember a lot of good times at Pirate's World, though!
Green cheese, weird elephant stuff, AND woman shoulders? Sign me up.
Hell yeah
And Choking, poisoning and electrocuting an elephant? With Tom Edison's company filming it? And with everyone being alright with this??
*Bring me to This time period!*
What an origin story! I've heard of Coney Island before but I never would have guessed its background to consist of things like "pleasure island" and constant, park destroying fires.
We are living in an age in which the preservation of history is absolutely essential. You my friend, make an excellent and important chronicler.
In what age was the preservation of history not essential?
@@Swagaito_Gai okay guy
@@seele_verloren and how do you know they can't write? Have you ever spoken to one and asked it? I didn't think so. 😋
@@Swagaito_Gai In today's age it seems much more easy to erase history and write down whatever the hell you feel like. I was a little overdramatic there, perhaps not erase but, it is easier to spread misinformation especially since people don't really go to libraries that much anymore.
Thompson & Dunby: "This elephant is losing us money, we gotta put her down"
ASPCA: "Ok"
T&D: "...by hanging her in front of a shitload of people"
ASPCA: "Woah there you can't do that that's cruel as hell"
T&D: "...but what if we poisoned her?"
ASPCA: "That's fine."
T&D: "...or electrocuted her?"
ASPCA: "That's also fine."
T&D: "...or strangled her using a giant mechanical arm?"
ASPCA: "I see no problems."
T&D: "..."
ASPCA: "..."
T&D: "...can we do all three?"
ASPCA: "You guys are fucking geniuses, get Edison on this."
Best comment.
And of course Edison got in on it and used AC because he was really really pissed that Tesla and Westinghouse were kicking DC's ass. So he was trying to show how horribly dangerous AC was... The elephant comes up in the history of the currents too.
There’s a bobs burgers episode on the elephant
@@filanfyretracker
Edison had nothing to do with the elephant’s death. That’s a complete fabrication (popularized by the bob’s burgers episode) stemming from the fact that the company the filmed the execution was founded by Edison. But he was no longer working in it (and didn’t own it) when it happened.
The listing of how everyone died killed me.
"Pneumonia, brights disease, pneumonia, heart disease, polar bear."
Just from 0 to 100 right there.
Time stamp?
@@torezcoasters6043 33:13
The Virgin Pneumonia vs The Chad Polar Bear
It *killed* you, you say? ....*adds to list* "pneumonia, brights disease, pneumonia, heart disease, polar bear, *this very list* "
I died right along with these folks....🤣🤣🤣
Merci beaucoup pour l'histoire de Coney Island in New York❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Millions of blessings,
Esther St Juste
"Another dream land attraction was the baby incubators"
Why of course
But thats how the doctor got people's attention to that medical issue. I think the money may have helped to pay for care, though I'll have to do my research on that. Plus lives were saved.
Briana Runo IIRC the babies in the public incubators were taken care of free of charge, and since many doctors didn’t think that incubators were a viable option, the public incubators showed them that they were.
R B tbh, babies are kind of adorable, so if I could pay like $2 to see really cute babies and essentially donate to their medical costs, I’d do it
Incubators were a new invention not in most hospitals..if any. So parents would be turned away from hospitals and told to just wait for their kids to die (it didn't help that the prevailing theory on preemies was "if they're too weak to live, than they should just die. Better for the population" (eugenics was very much a prevailing theory in the US in the early 20th century)). In desperation, they gave them to this guy, who used the money from admission to pay the nurses that worked there and for other expenses.
Guy wasn't a doctor, just an inventor, but the survival rates in his exhibit were VERY high, and he saved an insane amount of lives doing this. There's some very good articles written on this, well worth the google. He's basically the one responsible for convincing hospitals to use incubators.
@@JP2GiannaT There is also a very good 99% Percent Invisible episode about this.
They'll say "Aw, Topsy!"
At my autopsy
And no one could be
More shocked than me
But I never noticed, the curve of her trunk...
And I never noticed his electric junk
They say Thomas Edison, hes the
Man to get us in to this
Century
And that man is me
Magical.
this is perfect.
'They got to touch woman shoulders'
What a cursed sentence.
How **scandalous**
THIRD BASE.
wait till you hear about the time you could see a lady's ankles!
My my, count me perturbed, how dare one be so lewd in the eyes of *GOD!*
Not to brag or anything, but back in my day I was known as the "Third-base Terror of Coney Island"
another amazing episode, Kevin Perjurer! :)....and I love the anecdote about Robert Moses where after snapping at a reporter, one of his assistants quipped sardonically, "you'll have to excuse his behavior; he adores the public, he just hates people"....
This is by far the most quotable episode of Defunctland
Jesus, it's only a matter of time before Kevin's next video is a feature length animated film - may this channel never go defunct!
I owe my very existence to Coney Island. My grandparents met there in it's heyday, They married in 1925.
very fascinating, must have been wild learning bout your history.
You might not exist if not for tumble rides and dark tunnels o_O
Let's just hope it wasn't in the Elephant Brothel.
@@KeWDu whysoever not? It's tasteful... ish.. for westerners... at the time-- yeah it was probably a shitshow (hopefully not literally; not to kinkshame but there are more private venues for such things).
@@thecartoonistchick6539 Its in the video.
Come to Coney Island, take a ride on the cyclone. I miss you
The production quality is off the chart this season.
Coney Island : Has segregation, human zoos, and blackface
Also Coney Island : We're not racist, one of our ride creators is black!
Based
Don’t forget to visit the b a b y t a n k
I think a prominent Black middle class section of the city was bulldozed to build Central Park too.
DominateEye yup
@Martin Beberman yeah they are
Humans aren't being displayed publicly in zoos
And we dont gather to watch a man boil to death inside a hollow bronze bull
Topsy: Poisoned, strangled, and electrocuted
ASPCA: It's the most humane death we've ever seen
Geeze poor Topsy :(
Sadly it probably was at the time.
Janabug Yeah! Talk about overkill!
R.I.P. Topsy... 🐘
Lets be thankful nobody suggested firing her out of a cannon :(
you can find the video online still too!
I felt so sick hearing all of that :(
"Topsy Must Die" has the same energy as "A Powerful Rat Named Charles Entertainment Cheese" . . . and it wasn't even invented for this show!
*The several fires that occurred on Coney Island:*
“How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?”
You can certainly imagine the tough guys in suits. "It's a nice amusement park you got here - it would be a shame if anything bad happened to it!"
It's pretty cathartic how many times it happened and how they were the final blow essentially.
I sure do love these young people.
Fire: "these parks are a testament to Man's arrogance"
“Admission to the burning ashes: 10c”
Never miss an opportunity.
A man after Andrew Ryan's heart.
The balls on this man.
I respect that level of sarcasm and self deprecation in such harrowing circumstances
This was back when a smoldering hunk of ash was considered a safe, fun attraction.
I remember going to Coney Island as a kid, it always felt dirty and had this weird eerie vibe about it. I didn’t know the hells gate attraction burned down way before I was born. I don’t know if they remade it or something but I CLEARLY remember this big red winged devil on top on a building with a ride. I was always so scared to even look at it. Also I didn’t know that big tower was for a parachute ride, I always thought it was for bungee jumping.
Okay, how has there not been a gritty prime time Coney Island series yet? This story has everything.
One factor would be the difficulties and cost of doing a period piece, especially one that would have to have animals and long-gone amusement rides. Altho with the price of quality TV CGI having presumably come down and the maturation of 3D-printing, it'd certainly be more feasible now.
Bragg wanted him in the brig, but Boynton began to brag on the suit
Bragg bought the brag and kept Boynton out of the brig
allowing him to attempt his stunt.
Boy, that's a tongue twister.
Lmao. This narration seemed right out of Arrested Development. Good stuff Kevin!
Unfortunately there seems to be no historical film footage of Paul Boyton. He was a Freemason, and his Merriman suit became somewhat famous as the ancestor of the caoutchouc suit worn by occultists to reach altered states of mind.
Time to finally find out what Mario meant by "King Koopa's Coney Island Disco Palace".
Glad I am not the only one who keeps saying that.
Like they say in Brooklyn, early to bed, early to catch the worm. Or is it the bagel?
😂
YOSHEEE HUNGWEE
ruclips.net/video/BI831FaAJtI/видео.html
Captain Paul Boyton was my great great great grandfather on my grandmothers side. Man was a visionary
Unfortunately there seems to be no historical film footage of Paul Boyton. He was a Freemason, and his Merriman suit became somewhat famous as the ancestor of the caoutchouc suit worn by occultists to reach altered states of mind.
Over 120 years ago Graham Bell experimented with latex balloons - initially as a tactile hearing aid for the deaf. Since himself was a spiritualist, his work soon found its way into the community, where it developed into what later got known as latex trance and resonator meditation. There was a great rivalry about interdimensional communication between Edison and Bell, who was first with his idea of creating the spirit phone. Acoustic discoveries of Bell labs found their way through newspapers and newsletters to spiritualists, those created own variants of those research instruments for own experimentation. So the whole concept of vibration transmission through technical means was basically derived from Bell. It is unknown if Bell's friend Thomas A. Watson himself had actually brought a Merriman suit into his laboratory to examine its sonic properties.
Never the less, apparently based on this rubber garment the first inflatable trance suits were developed, those were used for calming traumatized 1st world war patients, for meditation and later for transcommunication with the spirit realm. Latex conducts consciousness by its interaction with subtle cosmic vibrations and energy exchange with the universe. Around the end of 1980th more complex versions of these suits with integrated mindmachine with sonic chakra stimulation were made (employing a complex electro-acoustic feedback mechanism) and sold in small quantities under the Orgonera brand. The technology is not well documented and fell into oblivion. But in 1990th it inspired the construction of the first teledildonic suits, when the whole concept of psychedelic latex equipment got conquered and misappropriated by the erotic industry.
"another popular attraction was the baby incubators, with real premature infants people could pay to see" excuse me, what?
if you're into that you should check out the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry .they are the collection of preserved fetuses ranging from a cluster of cells too a full-term stillborn 25 or 30 of them at all
Plus there are a few really good videos on those babies on RUclips if you look them up
You should read about side shows. They would fabricate fake monsters for display, real egyptian mummies, looted from tombs, and show off live people with deformities. People around the turn of the century were both kinda sick and also really starved for entertainment.
It was a real thing, but it actually helped popularize incubators. The inventor couldn't get the public and medical community to take it seriously, so he made it an attraction. It worked and it saved a lot of babies.
Having been a preemie who was incubated myself, that part pissed me off so much. Like, at least the infamous side shows with grown-up performers had people in them who, in most cases, could understand and consent to being a part of the show (even if that line of work wasn't obviously their first livelihood choice). Infants can't give consent. And what the fuck were the parents thinking? Having your child be born early, with their fate so uncertain, is one of the most terrifying things any parent, especially the mother, can go through. Even now, 32 years later, after everything turned out okay (I was predicted to not live at all or, if I did, to have a laundry list of disabilities, and I just ended up with a visual impairment), my mom says she still can remember the exact feelings of fear and sorrow she went through during my birth and subsequent four-month hospital stay. Why any mother would magnify that by tenfold via putting her infant on display is beyond me.
EDIT: Since people won't stop replying with smart aleck "You know you're alive because of that previous technology/displays, right?", let me make myself clear. I wrote my above post initially as a knee-jerk reaction because the story brought up, for me, painful memories of my own medical trauma. I've since been better educated on the time period in question and the specific attraction itself. I jumped to conclusions based on side show stereotypes and my own anger about, "See? Preemies/people with disabilities have always been seen as freaks," and I shouldn't have done that. Thanks to the people in replies down below who actually took the time to talk to me as a person and teach me new things.
“Breasts are ok, if they’re for bible reasons.”
“Biblical”
I await the Porn version 9f the King James Bible. And the Hentai version.
@@JeffreyPiatt Well, there is the R. Crumb version of Genesis, but it's very straightforward.
For the unaware, R. Crumb is an old and notorious pervert responsible for many works in the Underground Comix scene of the 70's.
Best thing I've heard all day.
Have you seen the Sistine Chapel? Nude figures of biblical characters is actually very common.
*takes drink of water*
"While they were measuring their docks......"
*starts coughing with laughter*
docking is the way of life
follow your dreams
@@chuckiegravesfield3170 Symmetrical docking is the best, tho.
yeah i caught that one
Size matters!
Yeah you wouldn't expect a subtle joke like that in this kind of video.
You were not the only one who had the misfortune of drinking something when hearing that line.
"Hello sir, could you point me to the, ah, brothel?"
"Sure, son. Ya see that seven-story elephant?"
"Ah, I should have known that was it. Thanks, mister!"
"The new steeplechase park featured a dwarf in a clown suit who would spank mens backsides with a electric prod.." uhhhhhh excuse me?
Victorians were weird man...
@@kingofthings7929 They were a very... repressed bunch. They had to get their fun somehow.
@Sam Bacon I'm pretty sure he's not that racist.
Midgets with prods brilliant idea
"New York's hottest new club is 'Steeplechase Park'; this place has everything..."
"Black Prince, a famous lion, was able to make it out"
"Oh well that's good at lea-"
"-but was then promptly shot by the police."
"Oh...nevermind..."
Well that's racist har har low blow joke go brrrrrrr
@@holykonchu7250what?
I was still processing the trainers' escapes and what a shit show that was and then im like, ok, the lion survived. Then 😶
The original Harambe
Like a bag of crushed animal crackers. Just chaos and sadness.
the fact that the attractions where the fires started involved hell and a dragon can NOT be a coincidence
That was Brilliantly done. Chapeau. The fact that they were claiming to be "morally, and physically clean" while The "Elephant" was still "In the room"...
I am one of George Tilyou’s great great grandsons. I live near Orlando and have always been interested in amusement parks it wasn’t until I was about 12 that my mother let me know we have deep roots in amusement parks. Now when I see Tilly’s face I know that’s my history.
@Jacqueline my mother was never really close with her family. She raised me a single mother living in the swamps of Florida. She wasn’t flashy like the Tilyou side of the family. I don’t know just more humble and wanting your own identity.
That’s so crazy cool. 😱 I mean, minus the dead elephant issue.
So in this one video we got: An elephant being tortured """"humanely"""" to death, About 3-8 big fires, possible insurance fraud, several counts of animal abuse, casual racism, institutional racism, bureacratic takeovers, and exactly all of the debauchery available at the time.
I said it before and I'll say it again: Times were different back then. Especially in the worst ways.
Absolutely fantastic video, Kevin, you never disappoint. 💙
Don't forget all those people standing less than 2 meters away from each other... What a filthy, filthy place...
You forgot the elephant brothels
@@GenkiGanbare it was just a regular brothel shaped like an elephant though, nothing that crazy.
don’t forget the guy who died by polar bear
Undrave And renting unwashed bathing suits
Dang, I was waiting for the “and that man was Michael Eisner” twist
BUT IT WAS DIO!!!
It would’ve been fuckin hilarious if it just shot a photo of just Michael Eisner and there would be no audio, but just text saying
“You know who this guy is.”
Still, at least you could play "6 Degrees Of Eisner"
I was too...
Though the “And that man was Donald Trump’s dad” twist was pretty wild.
I had no idea how vast the history of coney Island is. Fantastic video.
dude sameeeeeeee
I love how the parks deliberately made it so men and women 'accidentally' touch each other.
@Super Succubi
I support the return of "accidental touches" parks around the world.
@@blastermaster5039 I don't
@@blastermaster5039 try forming real connections with other human beings! then you can do it 1. for free 2. with consent
@@blastermaster5039 ok weirdo
@@blastermaster5039I sure hope you don't take subways or buses anywhere
The storytelling aspect of Defuctland has always been top notch and brings me back for every episode, and Coney Island's was no different!
When the Defunctland team had said the video's delay was due to the scale of research that had to be done, it shows! And it didn't dissapoint! From visuals to narration, this episode has me at the edge of my seat. Kevin's narration, which has always been a credit to the channel, was the perfect structure for every story explored in the making of Coney Island's hay day and beyond. The ending, although tragic, is hopeful for revitalizing the old amusement parks and preserving what didn't get caught in a fire.
This cliffhanger has me eagerly awaiting the next installment! Thank you Defulctland team!
I want to praise you on this documentary. I've worked in the television and film industry for years before switching careers and I can tell you, this documentary is fantastic. You do absolutely everything correctly, from research and writing, to pacing and structure, and even the still frames and videos you choose. I've seen a lot of bad documentaries but I've seen a lot of good ones too, and you sir have a rare talent. I highly encourage you to keep at it and even go bigger. Pick a topic you care about deeply that almost no one knows about, get a pitch together and go to some producers to secure funding. I guarantee you, if you show them this, and your other works, as part of a demo reel, they will be impressed enough to bankroll whatever project your looking to do. A talent like yours is rare in this industry. Make this your full time job if it isn't already and go as big as you can. You know what you are doing and you know how to tell a story. I encourage you to get an agent if you don't have one and try to get a bigger budget documentary film in production. I know the industry and I promise you, if your pitch has energy, a producer will bankroll a full budget documentary based on your talent. Keep up the fantastic work and good luck my friend! Keep us updated as to when your next feature film is released.
I forgot to add, you might be interested in the book, The Devil in the White City. It's a story about that Chicago World's Fair and H. H. Holmes, a serial killer that prayed on the women who went to the exhibition. It's a great book and it has some of the same players in it that you've talked about in this and previous videos.
PREACH. This man is phenomenal. I love History and dove into countless RUclips channels over the years but his is special in the depth of research. The length never matters because all the info is important to the overall story and paired with tremendous imagery. This one most impressive - like how the hell did he get all this shit!
Keep killing it Kevin. 👊🏻
AMEN! I second that idea!
Amazing to see there was a "20,000 Leagues" ride decades before the one in Disneyland. Dorney Park in Allentown PA had a low-rent version called "Journey to the Center of the Earth", which I always loved.
Disney created Disneyland, because (according to an interview) he considered Coney Island too dangerous and immoral for families and so wanted to build his own childproof safe-space version of it.
The baby incubator thing is actually an absolutely incredible story, Dr Couny saved thousands of premature babies! I would love to see an episode exploring his story more in-depth!
There's a medical history podcast called Sawbones that did an episode on this topic, if you haven't listened to it already: maximumfun.org/episodes/sawbones/sawbones-baby-show/
@J Hemphill look at this eugenics movement loser over here
My husband was extremely premature in 1978. He survived due to the incubator. Thanks to what was considered a freak show, he and countless others were able to survive and lead productive lives!
Literally just said “let’s relax and check out a defunct land video.” Looking forward to watching and enjoying another great episode.
I love how the puppetry turned out! It looks really good!
I'm glad that the trainers attempted to move the animals. I was tearing up when you said 60 died. And then got whiplash when the guy died by polar bear.
Summer’s here! Let’s go to Coney Island, boys!
Meet you there! I'll bring the matches!
I wanna touch some women shoulders!!!