Thanks for sharing this video. I am considering building beaching leg(s). The previous owners of my ketch have already installed locations to fasten the legs to the beam.
Panope is such a cool boat! This video shows the excellent visibility in the pilot house too. Enjoyed seeing this video and the Anchor Test series too. Fair Winds! Steady
Nice! I've contemplated just careening SV Barry Duckworth on one side to scrub the bottom, then doing it on the other side the next tide. We haven't started cruising yet, and we've only had the boat in the water for a couple of weeks. Right now we are in Lake Michigan, so no tides.
+SV Panope Nice. How much rocket science was involved in the design of the leg and its placement on the boat to keep it all from flopping over in the water?
Not much science. I just sized the leg to give about a 10 degree list. It is important that I aim the boat accurately so it ends up perpendicular to the beach. Not perpendicular will result in other than 10 degrees of list and potencial problems. I walk an anchor down the beach on the 'low side' and also swing the boom - all to prevent being squished and drowned in the event of a poorly timed earthquake.
+SV Panope Interesting. So, the keel is enough by itself to prevent longitudinal rocking or tipping apparently. Is that single bolt through the top of the leg the only thing holding the leg on, keeping it from acting like scissors and collapsing? Did you need to do anything to reinforce the sheer/gunwale so that it would support the leg? Does the leg have a wide foot of some kind to distribute the load and avoid sinking in the sand/mud?
+onesimpleidea Keel is long so no chance of boat pivoting. Leg is attached with a single (1 inch dia.) bolt. Leg us free to pivot. Underside of the 'foot' has verticle plates that penetrate the seabed and prevent movement. Gunwale is plenty strong being made of 3/16" aluminum. Also, bolt passes through an unused chainplate pad (boat was formerly a schooner). Once the tide goes out a little bit, the whole set-up becomes solid as a rock.
I'd love to do this, but would feel uncomfortable with my 47' Skookum. Full keel, but 6'4" of draft and 46K pounds. Seems like the shallow draft makes for a lower center of gravity and so is a bit safer? Thoughts?
Todd, There ARE a few pitfalls, but with proper preparation it should be no problem. I first used a leg "foot" of about 1 square foot. This was inadequate in softer mud so I increased the size of the foot to 2 square feet. For your larger boat I would use at least 3 square feet unless beaching in hard sand or gravel. I would be reluctant to do this with a boat that cannot lay over on its side without flooding.
Thanks for showing the nut and bolt at the end, would like to see the part that sites on the sand. cheers
Thanks for sharing this video. I am considering building beaching leg(s). The previous owners of my ketch have already installed locations to fasten the legs to the beam.
Panope is such a cool boat! This video shows the excellent visibility in the pilot house too. Enjoyed seeing this video and the Anchor Test series too. Fair Winds! Steady
Cleaning the bottom has been done like this for half a century at least. Nice job!
Nice! I've contemplated just careening SV Barry Duckworth on one side to scrub the bottom, then doing it on the other side the next tide. We haven't started cruising yet, and we've only had the boat in the water for a couple of weeks. Right now we are in Lake Michigan, so no tides.
Wow, first time I've seen such a thing. Impressed!
Hey Steve, Can I ask. what is your bottom paint?
Love all your ideas and videos!!!
great do you recommend leaving them on or removing each time when actively cruising?
obviously if you could just pivot it up while sailing?
I prefer to remove the leg when not in use.
My boat is the Same with lift keel 45ft....love the concept
The joys of a full keel :)
+SV Panope Nice. How much rocket science was involved in the design of the leg and its placement on the boat to keep it all from flopping over in the water?
Not much science. I just sized the leg to give about a 10 degree list. It is important that I aim the boat accurately so it ends up perpendicular to the beach. Not perpendicular will result in other than 10 degrees of list and potencial problems. I walk an anchor down the beach on the 'low side' and also swing the boom - all to prevent being squished and drowned in the event of a poorly timed earthquake.
+SV Panope Interesting. So, the keel is enough by itself to prevent longitudinal rocking or tipping apparently. Is that single bolt through the top of the leg the only thing holding the leg on, keeping it from acting like scissors and collapsing? Did you need to do anything to reinforce the sheer/gunwale so that it would support the leg? Does the leg have a wide foot of some kind to distribute the load and avoid sinking in the sand/mud?
+onesimpleidea
Keel is long so no chance of boat pivoting. Leg is attached with a single (1 inch dia.) bolt. Leg us free to pivot. Underside of the 'foot' has verticle plates that penetrate the seabed and prevent movement. Gunwale is plenty strong being made of 3/16" aluminum. Also, bolt passes through an unused chainplate pad (boat was formerly a schooner).
Once the tide goes out a little bit, the whole set-up becomes solid as a rock.
I'd love to do this, but would feel uncomfortable with my 47' Skookum. Full keel, but 6'4" of draft and 46K pounds. Seems like the shallow draft makes for a lower center of gravity and so is a bit safer? Thoughts?
Todd, There ARE a few pitfalls, but with proper preparation it should be no problem. I first used a leg "foot" of about 1 square foot. This was inadequate in softer mud so I increased the size of the foot to 2 square feet. For your larger boat I would use at least 3 square feet unless beaching in hard sand or gravel. I would be reluctant to do this with a boat that cannot lay over on its side without flooding.
How much does Panope weights? I’m planning on building a pair for my boat. Any tips?
Panope weighs about 15,000 pounds. Survey the beach ahead of time at low tide as debris or irregularities in the beach contour can cause problems.
So how often do you have to do that?
I choose to scrub every 2 months in summer, and 4 months in winter.
why don't you have anti-folding on your boat
It is poisonous
Why waste money at the marina just do it yourself good job
Awesome.