Make Your Tracks PULSATE with Dub Echo
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- This video demonstrates the creative use of echo in dub techno, showing how it adds depth and movement to your tracks. Watch as I create a track using Live 12’s wavetable synthesizer, Mello-Fi, radical distortion, and more. Learn how to craft a solid kick, a textured bassline, and classic drum loops with spring reverb. See the impact of phasers, band-pass filters, and echo effects on the overall sound.
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This is the academic techno content we have all been waiting for. Would love some content that leans into video essay more than tutorial.
@@watchlearn303 I appreciate your feedback! To better understand your interest, could you please specify what kind of content you're referring to?
It would be great to get a typology of song form. Or, if not a cladistic approach, some way of understanding "common structures" or, like, functions the song structure has to achieve.
I can imagine a very long list of things I'd love to hear from an academic. Is there a literal debt that modern producers owe Jamaicans? What is the relationship of early techno to hip hop and house? How does queerness intersect with techno and dub techno? Formal musicology type topics like I suggested above, eg push and pull between harmony and timbre, role of density. Are there changes in the music specifically attributable to computers? How has capital (recording, promoting, venue business interests) impacted the music?
@@GeorgeLocke I’ve noted all of your ideas, and luckily, some of them have been my research subjects before. So, stay tuned for more content related to these topics soon 😎
I’ve been using tape delay and echo for years as a metal guitarist. Now creating electronic music again in my life, this is a much more needed tool. Excellent job on your tutorial!
Echo is a playground for your imagination. Explore its depths!
@@bahadirhankocer I agree. It definitely opens up endless possibilities.
Amazing visual presentation. It's interesting to see techno techniques being taught and presented in such a professional and visual way. Fantastic work
Thank you for your positive feedback! There's more to come.
Now THIS is what I call education. Masterfully presented, you have a deep understanding of this art. Thank you for sharing, I’ve been looking for a detailed break down of this for so long and I’m glad I got this recommended to me.
@@don_huzan That really means a lot-thank you! I'm thrilled that you found the breakdown helpful. Keep experimenting and challenging the limits of your sound. Glad you enjoyed it, and I’m happy this content found its way to you 🎵
oh mate, when I get some spare time............I'm going sit down and re-watch this again so I can try and make some Dub Techno. cheers!
@@seangray4512 Thanks so much for taking the time! Re-watching can definitely help unlock some new creative ideas. I’m here to inspire, and if it worked, I’m more than happy. Stay tuned for the next video-cheers!
Thank you for simply explaining stuff in a calm voice and actually getting to the point
@@eskalation1871 Thank YOU for your time. Glad you enjoyed it!
And just like that excellence is born.
@@VEC7ORlt Hey, thanks! Truly touched by your comment.
@@bahadirhankocer it always fascinated me how some ppl can just conjure great sound out of thin air, I can DJ and pull amazing tracks out of my sleeve, but creating music somehow eluded me, maybe its time to start trying...
@@VEC7ORlt To me, every musical endeavor begins with a story waiting to be told, and every moment is an opportunity to start creating ANY sound that makes you fulfilled 🙌🏻
This is good content. I listen to left field DNB mainly, but love dub techno. I find it refreshing for some reason. Can listen to it all day without feeling fatigued…
Subscribed 👍🏾
@@Strafuzz Welcome aboard! DNB is another ocean to ride the waves.
One of the best dub techno tutorials I've seen on RUclips, well done!
@@djpashtet Glad to hear it 🎉
oh man. i'm instantly subscribed. i would love for this channel to take off
@@jaime5649 Hey, thank you. Your feedback means a LOT 🙌🏻
I would love to see you do a deeper dive into the history and usage of the effect in dub music. I was hoping this video would go there, but it kind of jumped right into production and skipped the real world examples. What *were* they doing up there with these effects? I listen to King Tubby and every single time the snare drum is hit it sounds like a different instrument.
@@puzzzl Thanks for the great idea! I'll definitely create a video on the history and usage of these effects in future. Stay tuned 🎵
Everything is amazing. Can you cover the mono compatibility part? That one is the most hardest for me. Using so much reverb and delay is tricky for mix. I feel that my track die when I do the mix because it can’t be so much wide because it won’t sound ok in the club. Thank you for your time to explain this things to us 🙏
Great question, Andrei! The profound aesthetics that dub techno brings to a listener can sometimes be diminished in a club environment, which I discussed in my book exploring the differences between listening to dub techno in clubs versus on headphones. But crafting a mono-compatible dub techno track that holds up well in that space is still possible. It’s all about balancing width and clarity. I’ve considered making tutorial videos on topics like this, but for now, I’m focusing more on the creative and "inspirational" side of electronic music. Maybe someday I'll cover more technical aspects like mono compatibility, as it’s important for club mixes. Thanks so much for the feedback, I really appreciate it!
@@bahadirhankocer Thank you so much! I'll buy the book.
sometimes you don't learn anything new but you feel very inspired...great one! 🖤
@@Audhentik It is pleasant to hear that! Inspiration, both giving and taking, is the only reason I create and consume content on RUclips.
Thanks for the demo
Thank YOU 🙌
Using pitch modulation on the echoes was used quite a bit in the early days of dub
I had a mono delay that you could modulate the pitch with
It was a Roland SDE
Could get really dirty with it 🔥
@@Reg-Edit Wow, a Roland SDE! Those things are legendary. Do you have any recordings you could share?
@@bahadirhankocer No man you had to go to a studio to make recordings when I had that LOL
Had lots of demos on tape & DAT though LOL
@@Reg-Edit Just wanted to take a chance :)
Hi, that’s huge! Pure gold
@@MichaelGaidamaka Hey Michael! Appreciated, thank you 🎵
Would love to see a Udemy course specifically on dub mixing techniques!
Hmm... Well, that's an interesting idea. Maybe, someday!
At 13:10 that "not baaad" sounded so much like Deadpool :) great video on a great topic btw!
Thank you for the feedback! Stay tuned for more.🙌
important that your first two images are MVO, and Phylyps Trak cover. im in the right place
Your comment made my day. Yes, you've found yourself in the lair of a true dub techno enthusiast! Always loved the work of MVO or Maurizio, Basic Channel, and Rhythm&Sound in general.
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Nice video! I liked the academic approach. I'm a massive reggae roots dub fan, but this is the first time I hear dub techno, interesting...
It's a pleasure to encounter a fellow enthusiast of reggae roots! Given that, I'm confident exploring the universe of dub techno will be a fascinating journey for you.
Hold on you’ve written a book on dub techno?! I need it immediately 🔊 📕
Enjoy the ride!
My book budget is all spent for now on 'Karate and Digestion' by Reed Tucker. I can also recommend 'Dentures, the Devil and the Great Cavity Cover Up' by Higginbottom.
Very nice to see how to use Ableton stock plugins to get sophisticated Dub Echos. Did you use anything from the character tab?
@@BulkySplash169 Hey! No, I didn't :)
Dub Machines by Surreal Machines!!
Ahh I love it! I love that you're approaching this with an academic musical background. I'm realizing from this video how the styles and genres of music that I love share such deep similarities and history with dub techno. Excited to watch more!
@@HeadUnderHeels Hi there! Thank you so much for your thoughtful comment. Appreciated! Dub Techno is indeed a very nuanced genre, and it's truly special to connect with others who appreciate its complex nature. I'm truly glad to hear that you enjoyed the perspective. Welcome to our community. There will definitely be more videos on dub techno in the future ❤️
Is there a better coupon or has the deal expired?
Good video, friend.
@@strangehermitage2299 Thanks, mate! Stay tuned for more 🙌🏻
i ve never bought a book so fast in my life.
Really? Appreciated, mate!
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@@bahadirhankocer just arrived today, sadly the book is in horrible condition which i understand is the fault of my local courier. Nevertheless i am very excited to read it!
I'm so sorry to hear that. It's a shame the book arrived in less-than-perfect condition. I hope you can still enjoy it despite that. I'm glad you're excited to dive in!
thanks for the cool video! i have a little feedback. i especially liked the first part of the video, and that bit at the end where you gave some advice about aiming for the echo to decay between notes. i would love to see more content that focuses on the theory side, the decision making, the 'why' questions - as cool as the track you made is, there are plenty of youtube channels already where you can watch someone walk through a loop and explain 'first i added this synth, next i added this effect, etc' and so the middle section of the video wasnt as interesting to me.
its just my opinion, but i think we will always need more content asking and analyzing questions like, 'why might an artist make this decision', versus making statements like 'so i made this decision and it sounds like this. good right?'.
@@willowevergreen7577 Wonderful feedback and thank you! "Why might an artist make this decision?" is a great question to keep in mind while creating new content. I'm working on a fresh video with several DSP tutorial sections inside. That should definitely help.
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@@Hreyhan12 Thanks and welcome aboard! Stay tuned for the upcoming one 🙌🏻
Interest concept! Thanks for making this 😊
Thanks for taking the time to engage with it 🎵
WELL DONE
Glad to hear!
thank you
@@PoorChoicesHost No, thank you.
Love this video, such great techniques explained beautifully
@@Benc2007 Thanks! Stay tuned for the next videos 🎵
lovely. subscribed.
Thanks for the sub!
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@@horseonthethirdfloor3643 So is your comment!
What type of video switcher or editing do you use to get such clean internet fidelity? I finding that the ATEM mini pro doesn't sound clear at all.
Uhm... This was not a live stream :)
my brother🙏i have been looking for this for sooooo long! thank you!!
I'm so happy to hear that! It's great to know it's been helpful for you.
Great job! Love this sounds. Thank you.
@@mikeporter1669 Glad to hear, thanks 🎵
New abo here 🥳👍🏽
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bu alanda üretmeye yeni başlamış biri olarak videoların bizim için gerçekten büyük bir şans, umarım sıkılmadan devam edersin. -pangu
Bu içten yorum için teşekkür ederim. Non-stop 🙌🏻
wow woww cảm ơn rất nhiều!!!
Thank you ❤
So the Patreon Multitrack is the Ableton project or just audio track stems?
Hey there! Just the stems but I'm planning to include the project files soon.
Good video. A little disappointed in all of the technical filters doing 80% of the work and not seeing how to do the essentials by hand
@@Nick1921945 Hey! If you could specify which essential elements you'd like to see, I can adjust future content accordingly.
I don't even make music but this was a very nice view into the dubby sound I love :)
Amazing to hear it vibes!
Quite impressive and inspiring.
Thank you
@@CRLFNKL Glad you get the muses!
love this so much
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the video ive been waiting for! subbed
@@ReeLowT Welcome aboard!
Awesome video, keep posting useful content like this one🖐
@@ivanbrankovic9965 Thanks! I'll definitely do 🙌🏻
Excellent work! Stoked to dig into your course and your book as well.
@@WillBradle Thanks and welcome aboard!
Great video, is there any way to buy your book for less than £47? I am a broke student
@@oscarcrocker5212 Thanks for the feedback! I know the broke student life well. It’s amazing how much you appreciate things when your situation improves. The book is on me. Just send me an email.
Size sormak istediğim birkaç soru var.
Müzikte PhD yapmış birisi olarak teknikal bilginiz benden daha üstündür eminim, peki siz, mixi ve prodüktörlüğü "roket bilimi" seviyesinde bir zorlukta görüyor musunuz?
Çok iyi mikslere sahip değilim lâkin 3-4 saat gibi bir süre verdiğimde tatmin edici mixler ortaya koyabiliyorum, tabii bi projeden projeye değişiyor. Lâkin müzik yapan ve bu işlerle ilgilenen çoğu kişi özellikle mix yapmanın bu işin en zor noktası olduğunu söylüyor.
Benim görüşüm bundan biraz daha farklı, "mix" dediğimiz şey şarkının elementlerini birbiri içinde bir ahenge sokabilmek ve eseri bir bütün hâline getirmektir kanımca. Bunu yaparken de deneysel davranmak bana hep daha mantıklı gelmiştir. Teknikal tabular yerine insanların mix yaparken efektlerle eksperimental şekilde etkileşime girip kulaklarına doğru geleni yapmaları daha sağlıklı olmaz mı? 1960-70'lerdeki çoğu görece underground prodüktörün ne şu an bizim elimizdeki DAWlar kadar detaylı ekipmanları vardı ne de aşırı üst düzey teknik bilgileri, lâkin çok iyi ve akılda kalıcı mixler ortaya koydular.
@@resinlawn Merhaba! Bu uzun yorumu cevaplamak için doğru zamanı bekledim. Derin bir soru. Miksin bir felsefesi var, bu aşikar.
Miksi mühendislik ve kreasyon olmak üzere iki temel kategoride ele almak benim fikrimce en makul düşünce yolu. Böyle düşününce, ulaşmak istediğimiz "ideal" sonucu zıt kutupların kurduğu bir denge hali gibi ele alabiliriz. Bu sebeple mühendislik, bu zeminde gerçekleşecek tüm kreatif eylemlere deneysel şekilde geçebilmek için bilimsel bir zemin hazırlıyor.
Sorduğunuz soruyu bu iki kutuptan hangisine ağırlık verileceği meselesi gibi düşününce, bu benim gözümde kişinin kendisiyle alakalı bir zorunlu tercih gibi. Örneğin Rick Rubin gibi isimlerin yarattığı bir anti-entelektüel, rekreasyonel miks furyası var. Bu ilham verici olsa da bazı müzik türleri için geçersiz bir düşünce. Yine de bu temelli o bakış açısını geçersiz yapmıyor. Yalnızca, ilk bakışta ne kadar öyle görünse de, miks gibi bir evrende tek bir gerçek yok. Dolayısıyla bu sorunun hem kişinin mizacıyla, hem müziğe bakışıyla, hem estetik algısıyla, hem aradığı tatmin hissinin nerede olduğuyla (ve daha onlarca şeyle) birlikte göz önüne alınması gerekiyor. Bunun tek bir cevabı yok diyebiliriz.
Abbey Road stüdyosunda kaydedilmiş müthiş kurallı ve kayıt süreci bakımından son derece titiz bir klasik orkestra eserini mikslemek ile bu videoda basitçe örneklediğim cinsten bir işi mikslemek arasındaki devasa farkı yaratan şey, deneysel yaratıcılığın DSP ile gerçek bir tepe noktasına erişmiş olması. Her iki örneği de mikslerken çok derin bir metot farklılığı söz konusu olacağı için, bunun miks sürecine nasıl bir anlam yüklendiğiyle alakası var. Bir de arzu edilen SONUÇLA. Herhalde en hayati unsur, sonucu hayal etmek, ve ona erişmek. Bazen hayal gücünüzü kullanmanız gerekmez, formül zaten bellidir. Bazen de hayal gücünüz olmadan miks yapamayacağınız işlere rastlayabilirsiniz.
Günün sonunda "bitti" dediğinizde o miks bitmiştir. Standartlara uygunluk aranıyorsa bu başarılı bir miks olarak kabul edilir. Fakat aranan şey çılgın bir DSP kullanımı ise o zaman standartlar da o kadar belirgin olmayacağı için deneysel sularda yüzmenin güzel bedelini ödemek gerekebilir: az dinleyici. İlhan Mimaroğlu da "thank you for not listening" derken bu dinleyici tipini övüyordu.
Bu çağrışımsal cevap umarım bir şeylere isabet etmiştir 🙌🏻
@@bahadirhankocer Cevabınız için teşekkürler.
Yazınızın tamamına katılmakla beraber son kısma ayrıca katılıyorum, deneysel işler o dönem gerçekten su altında kalabiliyor ve göz ardı ediliyor. Lâkin zaman geçtikçe büyük bir patlama da yapabiliyor. Örneğin The Stooges'un Raw Power'ı ya da The Velvet Underground'un debut albümü gibi. Döneminde pek değer görmemiş, lâkin sonradan epey ün kazanmış kayıtlar. Mixlerinin harika olduğu söylenemez lâkin Andy Warhol'un ve Iggy Pop'ın mix bilgisinde teknik anlamda pek bir yeterliliği olmadığı âşikâr. Sanırım yapılacak en doğru şey teknikle yaratıcılığı birleştirmek. Yaratıcılıktan uzak, tamamen tekniğe dayalı mixler bazen dinlediğimiz projeyi sıkıcı hâle getirebiliyor :) John Cale'de bu konu hakkında benzer bir şey söylemişti.
The Ableton Echo plugin effect is dope. Thanks for the video
It is indeed! Also, remember the motto: it is not the gear, it is the ear.
This was just utterly fantastic. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very Cool! Thanks!
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VO sounds different from older videos...?
great video tho!
I used Elevenlabs for a bit of backup on this video to test the results, but it's still 80% my own voice!
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😮Dub techno bass? How do you synthesize that? What do you sample? Whats the effect rack like? Lets get to it for real 😂!!!!!
There is no sample. It's sound modulation. The whole nature of dub techno is technical work. If you do it the easy way, most people will get tired of it real fast.
@Nick1921945 I mean to say whats the core sound you have to modulate to het to the characteristic dub techno stabs? Do you "sample" a sine? A square or saw? A piano chord? Is it reverb and delay? My ears dont seem to be able to fully understand the sound and when you get to the good and long dub techno tracks that same sound can modulate throughout the whole song keeping itself entertaining with its variations within the same "theme", its crazy i cant even imagine the automations that must be involved.. and in the end i dont even know how the core sound is synthesized
its crazy how good the dub techno can get, with a kick and a hihat those "stabs" can engulf almost all frequencies available
@@pkliskiki1800Wavetable synthesis is ideal for both bass and stabs. For stabs, employ a sawtooth waveform as a foundation, applying subtractive synthesis techniques to achieve a dub techno aesthetic. Experiment with waveform blending. Bass synthesis is simpler: a pure sine wave with subtle noise addition suffices. However, dub techno heavily relies on processing, a subjective aspect. In-depth synthesis and processing explanations are provided in my book.
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I like your explanation of the historical context behind the technology. And the video editing is fantastic. Otherwise I am a bit sad I wasted my time.
@@chrisjames3272 Thanks! Sometimes it happens depending on your expectations and you need to look up for a better inspirational temple. Hope you find a better way to invest your time 🎵
❤ Nice, great video well put together. Ordered the book! Might be your first amazon reviewer soon ;)
That's awesome! Glad you enjoyed the video and found it compelling enough to order the book. Happy reading
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Sorry but I don't see a discount on udemy?
Thanks for catching that! I missed adding the 30% discount code to the description. You can find the code there now.
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Why not put the Echo on a Send/Return?
Hey there! Using echo as an insert on your provides more space for tweaking the sound exactly how you want. You get more control over the effect itself, how it blends with the original sound, and even where it sits in your whole signal chain. More control makes more creative workflow. Also, when I analysed several producers mixing workflow and multitrack, I observed it as a common point. That being said, sends are great for putting the same echo on multiple instruments or adding some space to your whole mix. This is a matter of perspective. Experiment and see what sounds best for your track!
One advantage of using a return is being able to kill the original signal and then modulate the delay on its own. A key part of creating dub mixes. Great video and book btw!!!
Great tutorial! Cool dub techno vibe) Thanks!
@@Epic6Mepic Thanks! More to come. Stay tuned 🎵🙌🏻
Nice! Straight and to the point. No waffle.👍🥇⭐️(just bought the ebook)
@@paullee3660 Thanks a bunch! Your purchase directly supports my work, I really appreciate it. Enjoy 🙌🏻
think you mightve been using meld dawg
Oh! Could be a great option. Let's keep it to the next video.
5 mins into this video i already signed up to the udemy course. Really looking forward to it!
@@lostmeridian Thanks a lot! Welcome aboard and stay tuned for the next videos, mate 🙌🏻
£50 for your book is a bit much. When are you planning to release a reasonably priced digital version?
@@chriszanf Thanks for your input! Kindle is an available option.
90's Orb is back
And then you bounce it to an Akai S series sampler, send it through an old desk and record it to a worn out reel to reel tape. After the third blunt.
You might need to mute the happy pads or lp filter them with an envelope/lfo as the original dub techno mirrors something profoundly sad about Jamaican dub and life in general. IMO
"Profoundly sad about Jamaican dub and life in general", well said! I'll keep the comment about the blunt for myself for now, though 🍒
Why is your book so expensive?
£42 for a soft back...
Amazon's POD service provides a minimum and maximum range for pricing, considering printing and distribution costs. Since there was multiple critical feedback about the price, we've set the paperback version to the minimum. The book has been updated to the most suitable point within this range, but I'm not sure how this will reflect on the end user. I recommend checking again 24 hours later.
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This is not dub
@@philip6252 Yes, it's not.
Folks, every idiot knows how to make great dub techno. It's not science, it's super simple and easy. Don't get fooled by someone who's advertising his book after 40 seconds and who just want you to buy his "course". He's a SALESMAN and he's doing what everyone is doing on YT today: Making science out of something that isn't science at all, to make it look like a SENSATION, to make MONEY. I was a major dub techno producer in the 90s, and I recommend you to stay away from such channels. If you want to make dub techno, just get a real tape delay or, if you can't afford it, get Valhalla Delay. It's the best sounding virtual delay out there. Then get Valhalla Vintage Verb, and play around with chords. Keep the chords simple and cut the highs, to make them more dark and awesome. That's it. Enjoy making music!
Creating content and sharing knowledge is how I make a living. There’s no deceit in that. I find joy in teaching and promoting my work. This isn’t a scam-this is my profession.
Stop trashing good work just appreciate the effort or move on get a job... Enough boomers on YT these days LOL 😂
"Don't get fooled by someone who's advertising his book after 40 seconds." - Projection much? Seems like someone's a little bitter about their own failed sales pitch 😆
before making this video, you could have learned that dub chords are always played on the weak beat.
Normally, I embrace every comment, but this one is highly problematic and crude. Therefore, I will provide you with a thorough correction, so others can also understand. No, there is no such rule. Dub techno has a universal feel that can be achieved with various elements. My thesis, based on interviews with over 30 producers, shows that the sound of dub techno has evolved with very diverse variations over the past 30 years, and even Moritz von Oswald himself never dared to confine this genre within an aesthetic paradigm. This is because the genre is mainly based on texture and reverberation. Emphasis on the off-beats? Not crucial. Anyways, thanks for the comment!
@@bahadirhankocer I am very glad for you that you are studying dub techno, and one can only envy you, because you have a lot of interesting things ahead of you to learn in this direction, especially the fact that the keyword dub, oddly enough, indicates first of all the rhythmic feature of chords, which has its roots in reggae music. And I consider it blasphemous to create videos missing this basic concept of this genre, and ignorant to refer to musicians who allowed diversity as an exception.