Here are my honest thoughts on Acheron, a gameplay showcase, and some build advice. I hope you appreciate it. Maybe a full guide when she's released..? I am very excited for Acheron, to say the least. edit: fixed end looping by accident & sorry if LC part was repetitive, i wanted to be clear on that but will clean it up for my guide !
my late grandma (rip nico taylor, my granny) was seen as crazy. she told everyone "a diluc guide is coming soon." no one believed her. but here we are. this, ladies and gentlemen, is proof that we have to chase our dreams and wait patiently. thank you, Zy0x, for honoring my grandma's wish.
my grandma is a diluc main 💪💪 before she passes imma tell her to look for your granny in the afterlife so they can watch zyox's updated diluc guide together
@@herrscherofsillyracoons851 really? i think hes really powerful with xianyun, it's a silly team but his plunges are insane. i agree tho, outside of that I'm not sure if he would be all that useful.
@@bestieawesomeness i'm just kidding dhsbshshs, i havent touched genshin in months, almost an year, but ive heard about the plunge diluc, it looks fun.
what a humble guide maker, yesterday he saved me from a lion while I was getting groceries and left his diluc guide MID-EDIT just to save the life of his subscriber. Although my life was saved, he's laptop lost connection MID-EXPORT and he lost his progress. The Diluc guide will come very soon guys 🙏🏻
It's so that no one else can use his video and upload it to yt. The CC experience server contract states that any footage from that server cannot be re-uploaded, if that happens you may receive copyright strike.
Probably to avoid copyright. Apparently this test server can be played by only a handful of content creator and there is rules indicating that other content creator can't even react to this kind of video. That's why this private test server has started some drama among certain content creators.
Displaying her mastery over both fire and polearms, Xiangling sends a Pyronado whirling around her. The Pyronado will move with your character for the ability’s duration, dealing Pyro DMG to all opponents in its path.
yeah i ended up delaying it to explore an advanced combo to get more plunges faster but then ended up getting busy with other stuff and forgetting it even though it was 75% done :( my bad on that i'll try to still upload it at some point though but it feels so late now lmaooo
Here’s a quick guide. Use Fav if you don’t have enough energy. Even though his burst cost isn’t that high, it feels like you need at least 150-160 ER. Kaeya can be a very good option for a melt Gaming IF you have some cons and IF you can keep killing enemies to extend his burst duration. Bennet is basically his best support if you don’t have CR. Xingqui or Yelan can obviously be good hydro supports, but their single target hydro works against his small aoe pyro, that is why I like Kaeya. I don’t have Furina. His BiS artifacts is the crit rate when healed set. He gains full stacks with a single skill useage. You can get away with very little crit rate before the artifact effect takes effect.
Diluc Ragnvindr is a playable Pyro character in Genshin Impact. Born into the affluent Ragnvindr Clan, Diluc is the current owner of the Dawn Winery and a nobleman of high esteem in Mondstadt. While a past incident caused him to split ways with the Knights of Favonius, he continues to protect Mondstadt in his own way.
Anyone else feel the video was repetitive? Felt like I had Deja vu for several parts of this video. The light cone talk was repeated twice. There were also some jumps that felt were edited badly into the video.
even worse because kokomi has a perma debuff but if you try hard enough you can get more crit rate here she has absolutely no way to make er on her work
Mods, find his location, then-don't dox them, don't do that. Then go there, take their pillow right, remove the pillow case, put on a new one that's a bit less comfy and then make sure it's warm. Put a heater under the pillow, integrated into the pillow case, so that the pillow is always warmon both sides. Then take their phone charger, tangle it a little to where it only charges at a specific angle. Then plug that back into the wall in a loose way where it's gonna fall out when they plug their phone in and then they're gonna have to be inconvenienced because their phone won't actually work anymore, it won't charge. They think it'll charge but it won't charge properly, so their alarm won't go off next morning, they're gonna miss their flight, miss their ride to work, their boss is gonna be like "listen here, this is the SIXTH TIME you've been late". Fired, lose their job, all because-I don't remember what their message was, but they chose to make a joke.
Guys literally slandered the company. Mtashed called the company insults and so did tectone if this is their job they shouldn’t do that that’s unprofessional
@@RitinhaGEthey choose the cc who are known for making guide video and have have logical thought about the character, some local cc in my country already have permit to make video
Wrong. With E2, whenever it's Acheron's turn, she will gain one slashed dream automatically. So, in one turn, assuming you have her signature LC, she can give herself 3 slashed dreams.
Not if the harmony is sparkle (which is the best one for Acheron), who indirectly gives more stacks by making acheron much faster. Sparkle is actually so broken that it's already worth playing her with E0S1 Acheron + Pela if you can get 200 SPD (with the help of 4pc wind set and DDD if needed). Sparkle does so much by letting acheron build 0 SPD but effectively move at 200 SPD, a ton of crit dmg, some more dmg bonus and atk, and every acheron turn is +2 slashed dreams so you still get Acheron ult pretty fast. All of this makes her a good option even tho you're at 115% instead of 160% output, arguably the best option even in some cases, so having E2 acheron just makes it even crazier.
You can just use Welt sustain and a Harmony preferably Sparkle So team would be Acheron, Pela, Sparkle, Welt Might be a bit sweaty but Welt can apply debuff
As someone who started playing HSR this patch, this next patch is an unconditional win for because I either get Acheron, or I lose the 50/50 and get Jingliu. I have good f2p supports for both instances, it just comes down to who I get. On the matter of LCs, I have enough pulls to hit pity twice, so if I win the 50/50, I’ll throw the rest into her LC banner to either get her sig or hopefully several GNSW since it’s on rate up
Im not sure if I understand you correctly, but that is not how the banners work. The 50/50 is exclusive to their respective banners, meaning you can only get Acheron on her own banner, same with Jingliu. You lose your 50/50s to the standard 5* characters.
@@crispyliciouschicken244Oh, I just assumed Acheron and Jingliu where both in the first half, I misremembered. My fault :D Just looked it up, makes sense now yeah
The other Lightcones can be much worse, but Acheron is still a good character that can clear endgame content without the limited 5 star Lightcone. That's why the Lightcone is not needed, even if it's much better than the other options. Don't see a problem there.
to clarify a bit: -S1 is HUGE but there are still some options that are very strong like S5 GNSW & other limited 5-star LCs the dmg difference between her S1 & other options is big. and i want to illustrate that , but i don't believe it is "needed" to play the character -- only to maximize her value. My main problem is the lack of a strong consistent f2p option (outside of gnsw), though.
Wow, congrats on getting access. You deserve it definitely!! This also shows 2 things 1-the starrail CCs should have waited before starting drama 2-hoyo is annoying for rolling out access to people over time rather than at once to avoid drama
Specificially, the EN CCs lol Hoyo also release the same thing over CN,JP, SEA. All of CCs in these countries literally just congratulate each other when getting early access lol. Have some common sense and don't start baseless drama out of no evidence. That's all
This bs drama doesn't affect most of us overall, just drama baby need content because creating original content is too hard for his brain, this is a small problem and he make it more toxic. I think he should keep crying about GI and never touch hsr, i never want any of his stupid drama spread to hsr
holy god, you teased this video for so many days and said "tomorrow morning will be released" so many times I thought the diluc guide would release first! maybe next video will be the diluc 4.x guide?
A Diluc guide would be WORTHLESS. A GaMing guide would be USELESS. This Acheron guide is FOREIGN. We need more of the Guardian Yaksha Adeptus Xiao. Xiao is TALL therefore the most important character. LAMENT. Xiao conquers evil and slay demons. ZY0X WE NEED ANOTHER XIAO GUIDE!!
Did you know? HYV's CC server was actually set up so that Zy0x can make new characters guide beforehand and allow him to focus on other characters, now that Acheron is out of the way, I'm sure the awaited Diluc guide is on its way haha XD
i haven't watched one of your guides in a minute but i'm planning on pulling for acheron (f2p pray for me) and the last section where you run through your thought process in forgotten hall was so helpful bc i would've otherwise been spamming random bullshit go until i found a working team rhythm LMAOO so ty 🙏
Actually her E2 isn't cracked, you want as much debuff so she can ult so the more nihility the better, also her future best support will be nihility, the 2 nihility thing is a con because we don't have much options rn
thats not true at all . Even at E0 her best team is 1 nihility(pela) 1 harmony (sparkle or bronya) our harmonies are just that broken .and same goes to E2 you are actually getting 1 extra stack when her turn comes out so 3 stacks instead of 2 from her skill if we consider that you have the lightcone so it is broken .not only that you get the full nihility effect but you are getting ults quicker . @@Hhhh22222-w
e1 gunaifen with resolution applies 4 debuffs and has an aoe , idk how the stacking works but gunaifen might be super good with her, definitely planning on getting acheron and will try it out when i get her
I love your measured, unbiased, but still honest tone! Two things I wish you'd included are a showcase with some other light cone options (namely GNSW and then any f2p cone), to actually give an honest showcase, as well as mention that the large numbers you see during her ult are from her overkilling trash mobs, meaning her true damage is still very high but usually less than what you actually see on screen.
I witnessed a Chinese dude 0 cycling MoC 12 with E0S0 Acheron(GNSW)/Pela/SW/Gallagher on Billibilli. It was clutch but if you git gud like him, it's possible. Now considering this, for a casual 4 cycle should be a piece of cake with E0S0.
23:03 the last part of the video repeats and he doubles his outro lol, no hate or judgement, just was confused why the gameplay was being replayed until his outro started again
Hey man, havent really been watching you but i knew about your content. I recently got back to HSR and it's been really fun so far so thank you for those videos, they are really helpful as a retzurnee/beginner !
I did not expect the guide to come out before the update, thank you zyox i will now the information you taught me to prepare for losing my stellar jades.
I like that Black Swan works actually very well with her She doesn't just boost DOT dmg she also inflicts def reduction with her skill and plain dmg increase with her ult so she's actually an amazing debuffer and the DOT would be a good side dish in Acheron teams
I need some advice. Currently my only 5 stars are: dr. Datio, E1 Gepard, Yanqing, Bronya, Welt's light cone, Black Swan, Sparkle, and Jing Yuan. I'm currently trailblaze level 60 and my only level 80 character is Black Swan and idk who to pull next. I really like Acheron, but my only good debuffers are Pela and Black Swan, on top of that I'm in DESPERATE need of a great sustain unit. I know Loucha and Aventurine are coming up, but i don't like Loucha and don't really care for Aventurine. How I'm asking for your opinion: do I try to get Acheron ( I'm on 10 pity with 50/50 ) while her banner is live and then if I lose the 50/50 get Fu Xuan in 2.2, or save until Fu Xuan gets a rerun so i can guarantee her. I also need to take into consideration that I also need Kafka for my Black Swan, Ruan Mei for everyone, and Argenti for me cuz he'smy fav character. What do you think?
As far as I know nothing has been official has been released about Fu Xuan being in 2.2. If going by leaks, please know that leaks are often wrong when predicting future banners, especially for reruns. Its possible that Huo Huo and Argenti will be in 2.2 or even Raun Mei. Lots of time its just guess work. So hope for, but dont count on it. It would suck if you just saved for her in 2.2 only to find out she isnt coming back until 2.4. Luocha for example was one of the 2nd character released, and is only now getting his rerun. Also just just black swan is fine, you dont NEED Kafka. I actually cleared the most recent MoC with Black Swan on one side and Kafka on the other. Obviously they synergize well and she definitely an upgrade, but both are good characters in their own right. I wouldnt worry about only having Black Swan and Pela right now. Eventually you are just going to roll into some other 4 star nihility unit, or losing a 50/50 for Welt. Also some people with the access to the creator server have said that Sparkle is good enough that she essentially can take the spot of one of the nihility characters. Dont expect to roll Acheron and clear MoC 12 as soon as you do. From what I gather, she is a good but not an earth shaking DPS without her lightcone, but becomes that top tier DPS with her light cone. So really the advice is this: Ask yourself 2 questions. How long do you think you can play and enjoy the game without a top tier sustain? If its 2-3 months, sure wait for Fu Xuan. Are you ok with the fantastic looking DPS that might not be top tier if she doesnt have her light cone? Sure go for Acheron, heck you might just consider picking up her Light cone in a few months once she comes back around on a rerun. Do know that as a DPS are more dependent on how much the MoC suits them. I have a Jingliu E0 with her sig lightcone and she has barely seen use in the last MoC due to lack of Ice weak enemies in the later stages, and even in the recent Pure Fiction, an under-invested Herta wearing all my Jingliu's gear out preformed her (though that Pure fiction is basically built for Herta and Himeko). If neither of those seem appealing, ask yourself "what do I think would I get the most enjoyment out of using"? Honestly, its a game, and you should be enjoying it (so feel free to ignore any advice as well). I personally love using Luocha, though I initially rolled on him only because I also felt like I needed a good sustain. His character did nothing for me since i never played Honkai Impact the 3rd. Im not going to say he is a must pull, but that I was surprised how effective he is. He went just made every other team much easier to play, which improved my enjoyment of the game. Not so much because I like him, but he made all the characters I do like so much easier to play. How I approached HSR as a day 1 player has worked for me: Step 1: get 2 good DPS to just help clear content. Step 2: Hoard as many good Supports/Sustains I feel like I have too many options (any support that opens up a new wrinkle in team building like Raun Mei's weakness break are extra desirable for me). Step 3: Grab 1 major DPS from every element and Ignore picking up same element DPS until I can have someone to carry every element. Try to find your own strategy and try to stick to that.
Pela and BS work with Acheron quite well, Gallagher should be a good 4th spot he'll be good enough for sustain, so you can run that and lynx will be free, her and a well built gepard is good combo, you also got sparkle who is Jing's best support rn, you don't really need Ruan Mei since sparkle will already cover your other team and for future characters you can save up for whoever you like, but look out for Jiaoqiu she will be Acheron's best support - Basically you can pull for Acheron if you like - you don't need Kafka unless you wanna run a dot team, - Ruan Mei similarly since you habe Sparkle - If I were you I'd save for HuoHuo over Fu Xuan, she works better with Argenti, then save for Argenti - Gallagher will be good enough for sustain on your Archer on team, Lynx will be a good alternative until you get HuoHuo Your account is well stacked, no worries
Why does the last 2-3 minutes repeat the same thing? Editing mistake? Hopefully the youtube editor is enough to fix it or are you gonna leave it is is. It will be pretty funny for few days at least.
all the comments lamenting over the absent diluc guide that went to get milk and never came back lmaoo from an acheron lover who desperately wants e0 s1, thank you for the early review mr socks !!!
In terms of the LC situation GNSW is one of the rate-ups on her LC banner so if your willing to try you could get it or copies of it if you don't get her signature
I have roughly 180+ pulls saved, if I were to win 50/50 on Acheron, would it be in my best interest to try for her lightcone? This has been a tough debate between myself, so anyone have a good opinion on this?
Light cone is a massive boost compared to the 4 star alternatives. It makes it so that every turn that Acheron has is +2 on her ult instead of +1 when you use her skill. It's also buffs the ult a fuck ton.
Just like how kafka users needed to wait for a 5-star DoT (black swan) and mono quantum users needed to wait for sparkle, acheron will probably be a similar situation where users will be waiting for a 5-star sustain that has a debuff-centric kit
Adventurine applies a debuff if I'm not mistaken, but I don't think it's really the focus of his kit. So for building Acheron's ultimate, he probably won't be the fastest.
Weird that most people aren't mentioning Fire Trailblazer with trend which to me seems like her bis sustain unit at the moment with how many stacks on her ultie she can build up with them
@@xenoemblem7Problem is that fire TB's shield kinda suck. Damage reduction on skill helps with TB survivability, but the team will die to aoe attacks. And that is with using skill every turn and hitting the taunt. If you don't, you only have a 33% chance to be attacked.
I wanted to watch a full acherron guide. Your guides are basically the only one i like. So im happy. Also for the love of god make a diluc guide the Poor souls in your comment section are at this point on their hands and knees.
Here are my honest thoughts on Acheron, a gameplay showcase, and some build advice. I hope you appreciate it.
Maybe a full guide when she's released..? I am very excited for Acheron, to say the least.
edit: fixed end looping by accident & sorry if LC part was repetitive, i wanted to be clear on that but will clean it up for my guide !
Bro is doing ANYTHING except uploading a diluc guide ⁉️⁉️⁉️
Bro got early access
MEI-SENPAIII!! 💕
smash
ABOBA
At this point, I swear to god if we get an Arlecchino guide before a Diluc guide, I will, eat my entire keyboard.
Please live stream it
get ur keyboard ready
@@Zy0x nah no way
@@Zy0x i will, dont worry, i dont stall XD
Do a mukbang video
my late grandma (rip nico taylor, my granny) was seen as crazy. she told everyone "a diluc guide is coming soon." no one believed her. but here we are. this, ladies and gentlemen, is proof that we have to chase our dreams and wait patiently. thank you, Zy0x, for honoring my grandma's wish.
Rest in Peace 🙏🙏🙏
oh no
@@jaesthminie thank you jaesthminie i will be telling her
Rest in plaza🔥💯🔥🔥💯🔥🗣️💯🔥🔥🗣️💯🗣️🗣️💯🔥🗣️🗣️
my grandma is a diluc main 💪💪 before she passes imma tell her to look for your granny in the afterlife so they can watch zyox's updated diluc guide together
Crazy how Zy0x uploads a review for an unreleased character instead of a diluc guide
Aware
Diluc's not even good so i get him.
@@herrscherofsillyracoons851 really? i think hes really powerful with xianyun, it's a silly team but his plunges are insane. i agree tho, outside of that I'm not sure if he would be all that useful.
@@bestieawesomeness i'm just kidding dhsbshshs, i havent touched genshin in months, almost an year, but ive heard about the plunge diluc, it looks fun.
LMAO
Diluc Ragnvindr is a playable Pyro character in Genshin Impact.
Pyronado is a-
Ragnvindr?
I hardly know ‘er
not edgy nor short enough for him to care
Dealing AoE pyro damage.
OPPA XL AGANE
what a humble guide maker, yesterday he saved me from a lion while I was getting groceries and left his diluc guide MID-EDIT just to save the life of his subscriber. Although my life was saved, he's laptop lost connection MID-EXPORT and he lost his progress. The Diluc guide will come very soon guys 🙏🏻
did u top up his resin to thank him?
@@AdrianCruz-tr8pkyeah I topped Zy0x
Lion? From r6? Did his ass move during lion scan and get scanned by drone? Is his ass in copper?
JOKING ASIDE, I'm so excited for Acheron! Good luck to everyone pulling for her and her lightcone!
WHAT IS THIS HUGE ZY0X WATERMARK ICANT😭😭
It's so that no one else can use his video and upload it to yt. The CC experience server contract states that any footage from that server cannot be re-uploaded, if that happens you may receive copyright strike.
He has to, in the contract
@@kenahn3551what contract?
Probably to avoid copyright. Apparently this test server can be played by only a handful of content creator and there is rules indicating that other content creator can't even react to this kind of video. That's why this private test server has started some drama among certain content creators.
He says the reason a few seconds into the video lmao
Displaying her mastery over both fire and polearms, Xiangling sends a Pyronado whirling around her. The Pyronado will move with your character for the ability’s duration, dealing Pyro DMG to all opponents in its path.
OPPA XL
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OPPA AGOUBA!
Bro had to put the bigass ZY0X watermark in the background 😭😭the Uncle Z arc begins
13:18 his mika voice came out☝️🤓
You know what else would be awesome? YOU FINALLY POSTING GAMING GUIDE AFTER 4 BILLION YEARS
yeah i ended up delaying it to explore an advanced combo to get more plunges faster but then ended up getting busy with other stuff and forgetting it even though it was 75% done :( my bad on that i'll try to still upload it at some point though but it feels so late now lmaooo
@@Zy0x nah, ur good, no matter how late it is, its still informational
@@Zy0xOmg you actually answered my call
I put my trust in you Zy0x I hope we'll see it in some time
@@Zy0x Surely Diluc guide will also be uploaded someday right? RIGHT?
Here’s a quick guide. Use Fav if you don’t have enough energy. Even though his burst cost isn’t that high, it feels like you need at least 150-160 ER. Kaeya can be a very good option for a melt Gaming IF you have some cons and IF you can keep killing enemies to extend his burst duration. Bennet is basically his best support if you don’t have CR. Xingqui or Yelan can obviously be good hydro supports, but their single target hydro works against his small aoe pyro, that is why I like Kaeya. I don’t have Furina. His BiS artifacts is the crit rate when healed set. He gains full stacks with a single skill useage. You can get away with very little crit rate before the artifact effect takes effect.
No way he made a guide for a character not even released yet before the Diluc guide kekw
Zyox may not be able to get pregnant, but he never fails to deliver
you're just not trying hard enough.
@ future zyox's partner don't let it stop you
@@jeremydavis1284It's so hard to get pregnant ;0;
I will impregnate zyonix
This is misinformation. I might've done something to Mr.Zyox
23:03 video should end, but there is additional ~1:30 min copy of the last part, pls trim it mr guide maker KEKL
wait wtf HAHAHA how did that happen ill cut it out in YT editor but idk how long that'll take
@@Zy0x You're cursed until Diluc guide.
Uncle Z back at it again with another guide
Thank you Uncle Z
zyox is probably the only one who doesn't overhype and gives it to you straight up
Diluc Ragnvindr is a playable Pyro character in Genshin Impact.
Born into the affluent Ragnvindr Clan, Diluc is the current owner of the Dawn Winery and a nobleman of high esteem in Mondstadt. While a past incident caused him to split ways with the Knights of Favonius, he continues to protect Mondstadt in his own way.
OMG IS THAT THE MOST WAITED DILUC GUIDE OMG I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS
Anyone else feel the video was repetitive? Felt like I had Deja vu for several parts of this video. The light cone talk was repeated twice. There were also some jumps that felt were edited badly into the video.
i realized he repeated the lightcone options way too much lol
Zyox is always pregnant but never delivers ❤️
He hides it well 🔥🔥
I get that she's good in a National team, but can you explain how she's supposed to work with Beidou?
So putting energy regeneration rate is the equivalent of putting crit rate/dmg on kokomi
even worse because kokomi has a perma debuff but if you try hard enough you can get more crit rate here she has absolutely no way to make er on her work
More like putting geo dmg bonus on raiden
Can't wait for Gacha smacks 1 hour reaction to this ! 😂
Mods, find his location, then-don't dox them, don't do that. Then go there, take their pillow right, remove the pillow case, put on a new one that's a bit less comfy and then make sure it's warm. Put a heater under the pillow, integrated into the pillow case, so that the pillow is always warmon both sides. Then take their phone charger, tangle it a little to where it only charges at a specific angle. Then plug that back into the wall in a loose way where it's gonna fall out when they plug their phone in and then they're gonna have to be inconvenienced because their phone won't actually work anymore, it won't charge. They think it'll charge but it won't charge properly, so their alarm won't go off next morning, they're gonna miss their flight, miss their ride to work, their boss is gonna be like "listen here, this is the SIXTH TIME you've been late". Fired, lose their job, all because-I don't remember what their message was, but they chose to make a joke.
5/6 behaviour
i have a feeling were getting a dottore guide before diluc guide
Zyox joins the battle 😂
There should have never been a battle. Those guys making drama are crying babies who don't know how companies work lol
@@chihaotran1568 true bro
The cc are just doing their job
They should not be getting any shit
Guys literally slandered the company. Mtashed called the company insults and so did tectone if this is their job they shouldn’t do that that’s unprofessional
@@RitinhaGEthey choose the cc who are known for making guide video and have have logical thought about the character, some local cc in my country already have permit to make video
@@RitinhaGEand i think hoyoverse know that these 2 will make some misunderstanding and bias take about the character so they don't invite them
The thing about E2 is replacing that nihility with a harmony will also result in slower ult uptime since harmony does not have debuffs.
Correct
Wrong. With E2, whenever it's Acheron's turn, she will gain one slashed dream automatically. So, in one turn, assuming you have her signature LC, she can give herself 3 slashed dreams.
Not if the harmony is sparkle (which is the best one for Acheron), who indirectly gives more stacks by making acheron much faster.
Sparkle is actually so broken that it's already worth playing her with E0S1 Acheron + Pela if you can get 200 SPD (with the help of 4pc wind set and DDD if needed).
Sparkle does so much by letting acheron build 0 SPD but effectively move at 200 SPD, a ton of crit dmg, some more dmg bonus and atk, and every acheron turn is +2 slashed dreams so you still get Acheron ult pretty fast.
All of this makes her a good option even tho you're at 115% instead of 160% output, arguably the best option even in some cases, so having E2 acheron just makes it even crazier.
You can just use Welt sustain and a Harmony preferably Sparkle
So team would be Acheron, Pela, Sparkle, Welt
Might be a bit sweaty but Welt can apply debuff
As someone who started playing HSR this patch, this next patch is an unconditional win for because I either get Acheron, or I lose the 50/50 and get Jingliu. I have good f2p supports for both instances, it just comes down to who I get.
On the matter of LCs, I have enough pulls to hit pity twice, so if I win the 50/50, I’ll throw the rest into her LC banner to either get her sig or hopefully several GNSW since it’s on rate up
Well that is if you 180 pulls
Im not sure if I understand you correctly, but that is not how the banners work. The 50/50 is exclusive to their respective banners, meaning you can only get Acheron on her own banner, same with Jingliu.
You lose your 50/50s to the standard 5* characters.
@@Fruchti I think they saying that if they lost Acheron 50/50, they would just use their guarantee on Jing Liu lol.
@@crispyliciouschicken244Oh, I just assumed Acheron and Jingliu where both in the first half, I misremembered. My fault :D Just looked it up, makes sense now yeah
@@Fruchti I’m fully aware, I meant if I lose the 50/50 for acheron, I’ll use the guaranteed on Jingliu, I just worded it weirdly
still no Gepard, Clara and Himeko ICANT
True! keep the yanking and bailu dups cumming~ pepeW
"Her lightcone is broken and the other options are much worse"
a few minutes later.
"Her light cone is really good, but not needed."
wut?
The other Lightcones can be much worse, but Acheron is still a good character that can clear endgame content without the limited 5 star Lightcone. That's why the Lightcone is not needed, even if it's much better than the other options.
Don't see a problem there.
to clarify a bit:
-S1 is HUGE
but there are still some options that are very strong like S5 GNSW & other limited 5-star LCs
the dmg difference between her S1 & other options is big. and i want to illustrate that , but i don't believe it is "needed" to play the character -- only to maximize her value.
My main problem is the lack of a strong consistent f2p option (outside of gnsw), though.
@@kuro9476 Maybe it’s just the wording or the way I perceived it.
Mtashed already made a video on this. She needs her LC period.
@Sapphic288 So does that mean Acheron cannot clear endgame content unless you have her limited Lightcone or why does she "need her LC period"?
Great video, as always!I like how you uploaded your way later compared to Brax and IWTL Gaming, even though you had early access.
Wow, congrats on getting access. You deserve it definitely!!
This also shows 2 things
1-the starrail CCs should have waited before starting drama
2-hoyo is annoying for rolling out access to people over time rather than at once to avoid drama
Specificially, the EN CCs lol
Hoyo also release the same thing over CN,JP, SEA. All of CCs in these countries literally just congratulate each other when getting early access lol.
Have some common sense and don't start baseless drama out of no evidence. That's all
@@chihaotran1568 Mainly Tectone started it as always...
This bs drama doesn't affect most of us overall, just drama baby need content because creating original content is too hard for his brain, this is a small problem and he make it more toxic. I think he should keep crying about GI and never touch hsr, i never want any of his stupid drama spread to hsr
@@tranduclong4642You...
I respect you 💝
They roll over time, this way each CC gets their time to shine
The double outro at the end gave me deja vu
holy god, you teased this video for so many days and said "tomorrow morning will be released" so many times I thought the diluc guide would release first!
maybe next video will be the diluc 4.x guide?
Truly a Zy0x moment. Optimizing the outro by having it play two times!
A Diluc guide would be WORTHLESS. A GaMing guide would be USELESS. This Acheron guide is FOREIGN. We need more of the Guardian Yaksha Adeptus Xiao. Xiao is TALL therefore the most important character. LAMENT. Xiao conquers evil and slay demons. ZY0X WE NEED ANOTHER XIAO GUIDE!!
Mr Socks, can you delay the DIluc guide until Natlan? Maybe the pyro archon (not Bennett) might work well with him
Finally someone who does not immediately shout "TR@SH WITHOUT HER LC!" while admitting that it is really good.
Title should be E0S1
okay but where is diluc guide
still cant believe hanya burden doesnt count as a debuff... what a droped ball from hoyo she couldve been acherons tingyun 💀💀
bro used the same file at the end 💀
Ahhh he's using the team im planning too, Pela-Welt-RM team, happy to see it works‼️
Did you know? HYV's CC server was actually set up so that Zy0x can make new characters guide beforehand and allow him to focus on other characters, now that Acheron is out of the way, I'm sure the awaited Diluc guide is on its way haha XD
wow diluc sure looks different here
i haven't watched one of your guides in a minute but i'm planning on pulling for acheron (f2p pray for me) and the last section where you run through your thought process in forgotten hall was so helpful bc i would've otherwise been spamming random bullshit go until i found a working team rhythm LMAOO so ty 🙏
I'm sticking with zy0x. He's the only guy that doesn't involve in Hoyoverse drama. I love his content in every game.
STAND WITH ZY0X 😤
He kinda kickstarted shit with the duality post but its good he just ate popcorn
Bro, he kickstarted the whole CC drama.
raiden shogun: cracked at c2
acheron: cracked at e2
hmmmmmmmm
It's in the bloodline😂
@@Chris22167It's basically a canon event at this point
Actually her E2 isn't cracked, you want as much debuff so she can ult so the more nihility the better, also her future best support will be nihility, the 2 nihility thing is a con because we don't have much options rn
thats not true at all . Even at E0 her best team is 1 nihility(pela) 1 harmony (sparkle or bronya) our harmonies are just that broken .and same goes to E2 you are actually getting 1 extra stack when her turn comes out so 3 stacks instead of 2 from her skill if we consider that you have the lightcone so it is broken .not only that you get the full nihility effect but you are getting ults quicker . @@Hhhh22222-w
@@Hhhh22222-wWith E2, assuming you have her signature LC, she gets 3 slashed dreams instead of 2 when it's her turn.
e1 gunaifen with resolution applies 4 debuffs and has an aoe , idk how the stacking works but gunaifen might be super good with her, definitely planning on getting acheron and will try it out when i get her
bro actually made a guide for an unreleased character before the diluc guide ICANT
i bet the diluc guide is comming on april 1st , where he uploads a year old guide and finally recemends using burgeon , ignoring xianyuns existence
22:34 Loved this moment
I love your measured, unbiased, but still honest tone! Two things I wish you'd included are a showcase with some other light cone options (namely GNSW and then any f2p cone), to actually give an honest showcase, as well as mention that the large numbers you see during her ult are from her overkilling trash mobs, meaning her true damage is still very high but usually less than what you actually see on screen.
When is she coming😢
Are we getting rerun?
HES ONE OF THE CHOSEN
Is the ending repeating part of the video or am I lagging?
I witnessed a Chinese dude 0 cycling MoC 12 with E0S0 Acheron(GNSW)/Pela/SW/Gallagher on Billibilli.
It was clutch but if you git gud like him, it's possible. Now considering this, for a casual 4 cycle should be a piece of cake with E0S0.
23:03 the last part of the video repeats and he doubles his outro lol, no hate or judgement, just was confused why the gameplay was being replayed until his outro started again
Hey man, havent really been watching you but i knew about your content. I recently got back to HSR and it's been really fun so far so thank you for those videos, they are really helpful as a retzurnee/beginner !
no way we got Archeon guide before her release while Diluc guide has been benched since 3.0 om
Omg zyox already have a guide, ngl that was unexpected but still really great
Good thing is GNSW is coming out on the lc banner so people have a higher chance of getting it
Pre-Release guides before Diluc I can't.
Holy, the sheer awesomeness radiating from this lady's black, red, and white backgroud drop makes me tremble
Hi im stupid for this ik but shes not out yet? How did zyox get esrly access
Did you even watch the video? He explains it
verified content creator get exclusive early access private server
@@PykeTyson77 ibr im at work so I haven't watched it😭😭but thank you ig ill know soon
mr zyox i think the end clip repeats itself
Suske Uncle Z
Congratulations on getting the early access Mr. Socks!!!!
I did not expect the guide to come out before the update, thank you zyox i will now the information you taught me to prepare for losing my stellar jades.
yayyy happy to see mr socks able to discuss early access
I like that Black Swan works actually very well with her
She doesn't just boost DOT dmg she also inflicts def reduction with her skill and plain dmg increase with her ult so she's actually an amazing debuffer and the DOT would be a good side dish in Acheron teams
duality of acheron reviews
19:15 you missed the talent
ooo this was a fun review guide thing! still debating on getting her thouuu as im saving for aventurine
im so happy u have u the pre access to chars, cuz I only trust ur guides blindly lmao. Thank u for such an amazing video :)
I need some advice. Currently my only 5 stars are: dr. Datio, E1 Gepard, Yanqing, Bronya, Welt's light cone, Black Swan, Sparkle, and Jing Yuan. I'm currently trailblaze level 60 and my only level 80 character is Black Swan and idk who to pull next. I really like Acheron, but my only good debuffers are Pela and Black Swan, on top of that I'm in DESPERATE need of a great sustain unit. I know Loucha and Aventurine are coming up, but i don't like Loucha and don't really care for Aventurine. How I'm asking for your opinion: do I try to get Acheron ( I'm on 10 pity with 50/50 ) while her banner is live and then if I lose the 50/50 get Fu Xuan in 2.2, or save until Fu Xuan gets a rerun so i can guarantee her. I also need to take into consideration that I also need Kafka for my Black Swan, Ruan Mei for everyone, and Argenti for me cuz he'smy fav character. What do you think?
As far as I know nothing has been official has been released about Fu Xuan being in 2.2. If going by leaks, please know that leaks are often wrong when predicting future banners, especially for reruns. Its possible that Huo Huo and Argenti will be in 2.2 or even Raun Mei. Lots of time its just guess work. So hope for, but dont count on it. It would suck if you just saved for her in 2.2 only to find out she isnt coming back until 2.4. Luocha for example was one of the 2nd character released, and is only now getting his rerun.
Also just just black swan is fine, you dont NEED Kafka. I actually cleared the most recent MoC with Black Swan on one side and Kafka on the other. Obviously they synergize well and she definitely an upgrade, but both are good characters in their own right.
I wouldnt worry about only having Black Swan and Pela right now. Eventually you are just going to roll into some other 4 star nihility unit, or losing a 50/50 for Welt. Also some people with the access to the creator server have said that Sparkle is good enough that she essentially can take the spot of one of the nihility characters.
Dont expect to roll Acheron and clear MoC 12 as soon as you do. From what I gather, she is a good but not an earth shaking DPS without her lightcone, but becomes that top tier DPS with her light cone.
So really the advice is this: Ask yourself 2 questions.
How long do you think you can play and enjoy the game without a top tier sustain? If its 2-3 months, sure wait for Fu Xuan.
Are you ok with the fantastic looking DPS that might not be top tier if she doesnt have her light cone? Sure go for Acheron, heck you might just consider picking up her Light cone in a few months once she comes back around on a rerun. Do know that as a DPS are more dependent on how much the MoC suits them. I have a Jingliu E0 with her sig lightcone and she has barely seen use in the last MoC due to lack of Ice weak enemies in the later stages, and even in the recent Pure Fiction, an under-invested Herta wearing all my Jingliu's gear out preformed her (though that Pure fiction is basically built for Herta and Himeko).
If neither of those seem appealing, ask yourself "what do I think would I get the most enjoyment out of using"? Honestly, its a game, and you should be enjoying it (so feel free to ignore any advice as well).
I personally love using Luocha, though I initially rolled on him only because I also felt like I needed a good sustain. His character did nothing for me since i never played Honkai Impact the 3rd. Im not going to say he is a must pull, but that I was surprised how effective he is. He went just made every other team much easier to play, which improved my enjoyment of the game. Not so much because I like him, but he made all the characters I do like so much easier to play.
How I approached HSR as a day 1 player has worked for me: Step 1: get 2 good DPS to just help clear content. Step 2: Hoard as many good Supports/Sustains I feel like I have too many options (any support that opens up a new wrinkle in team building like Raun Mei's weakness break are extra desirable for me). Step 3: Grab 1 major DPS from every element and Ignore picking up same element DPS until I can have someone to carry every element. Try to find your own strategy and try to stick to that.
Pela and BS work with Acheron quite well, Gallagher should be a good 4th spot he'll be good enough for sustain, so you can run that and lynx will be free, her and a well built gepard is good combo, you also got sparkle who is Jing's best support rn, you don't really need Ruan Mei since sparkle will already cover your other team and for future characters you can save up for whoever you like, but look out for Jiaoqiu she will be Acheron's best support
- Basically you can pull for Acheron if you like
- you don't need Kafka unless you wanna run a dot team,
- Ruan Mei similarly since you habe Sparkle
- If I were you I'd save for HuoHuo over Fu Xuan, she works better with Argenti, then save for Argenti
- Gallagher will be good enough for sustain on your Archer on team, Lynx will be a good alternative until you get HuoHuo
Your account is well stacked, no worries
23:01 im so confused what happened here, why the video repeating and not end?
Lil bro realeased an unreleased character guide before the long awaited diluc guide
Why does the last 2-3 minutes repeat the same thing? Editing mistake? Hopefully the youtube editor is enough to fix it or are you gonna leave it is is. It will be pretty funny for few days at least.
They really want to sell her SO FKIN BAD WITH HER LC
Why does it play the ending segment 2 times mr socks? 22:38 and then the rest is a repeat past that.
all the comments lamenting over the absent diluc guide that went to get milk and never came back lmaoo
from an acheron lover who desperately wants e0 s1, thank you for the early review mr socks !!!
In terms of the LC situation GNSW is one of the rate-ups on her LC banner so if your willing to try you could get it or copies of it if you don't get her signature
this is how you make a video without getting cancelled
Hwy zyox what do you think? Will diluc be brought back to meta in natlan
23:03 bro just replayed it i was like am i tripping or what😭 had me confused as hell
Acheron is such a powerful nihility dps that if you can, you should pull her, because it will be worth it!
If lose 50/50 theres jingliu next banner
nah I'd skip
We have a huge watermark before an updated Diluc guide ICANT
I have roughly 180+ pulls saved, if I were to win 50/50 on Acheron, would it be in my best interest to try for her lightcone?
This has been a tough debate between myself, so anyone have a good opinion on this?
Yeah go for it. Anyways, who are you gonna save for after that? Aventurine? 😂
Imo she gonna be a beast if you have some nihility characters with you no matter how you build her after that light cone
Light cone is a massive boost compared to the 4 star alternatives. It makes it so that every turn that Acheron has is +2 on her ult instead of +1 when you use her skill. It's also buffs the ult a fuck ton.
Did the last few minutes repeat ? I thought I was insane until I remembered I can rewind the video.
Just like how kafka users needed to wait for a 5-star DoT (black swan) and mono quantum users needed to wait for sparkle, acheron will probably be a similar situation where users will be waiting for a 5-star sustain that has a debuff-centric kit
Adventurine applies a debuff if I'm not mistaken, but I don't think it's really the focus of his kit. So for building Acheron's ultimate, he probably won't be the fastest.
@@bromegaman5962he's her best sustain tho, the only other confirmed support for her is Jiaoqiu
@@bromegaman5962 yeah his ult applies a debuff that increases crit dmg of your allies
*cough cough* jiaoqiu *cough cough*
The Zy0x on the showcase part is trying so hard not to make random noises he would make on stream 😂
No watermark? This is my best guide yet 🙏🙏
The huge Zy0x in the middle of the screen in question
Weird that most people aren't mentioning Fire Trailblazer with trend which to me seems like her bis sustain unit at the moment with how many stacks on her ultie she can build up with them
We have galagher that can proc debuff aswell. In terms of comfort and sp gepard is better to use than MC need to skill other turn.
@@saltyismymiddlename97I mean if you're going to use Pela, she doesn't need to skill often so I think fire TB is pretty good
@@xenoemblem7Problem is that fire TB's shield kinda suck. Damage reduction on skill helps with TB survivability, but the team will die to aoe attacks. And that is with using skill every turn and hitting the taunt. If you don't, you only have a 33% chance to be attacked.
@@saltyismymiddlename97no mention of aventurine is wild ngl. He powercreeps both of those units HARD
@@bepo1702 I mention ones that more accessible. If the commenter want to pulls aventurine why bother using fire MC in the first place
Why's chat spamming diluc?
Love you Zy0x ❤
I wanted to watch a full acherron guide. Your guides are basically the only one i like. So im happy. Also for the love of god make a diluc guide the Poor souls in your comment section are at this point on their hands and knees.
Bro did an outro twice ICANT
buddy did you make an editing mistake at the end?