The woman didn't want to carry the bomb. That's why she was crying and asking for her baby to saved. The Okinawans were considered to be inferior by the Japanese. Knowing that they were going to die for their Emperor the Japanese soldiers had no qualms about forcing the Okinawans to do so as well. In fact the Okinawans had been fed with so much propaganda about the cruelty of the Americans that the civilians would often commit suicide before the Americans could liberate them from the Japanese. You can see films of mothers leaping from cliffs with their children because they had been told that the Americans would eat their babies.
Okinawa may have had that happen, but I know for sure the woman that you usually see jumping off a cliff, and then it cuts to a child floating in the ocean was taken from Saipan. You are absolutely correct in that the Japanese were absolutely barbaric to the people in Okinawa!
This is a very good post and is historically accurate 💯. The Japanese empire was absolutely brutal. They committed awful atrocities across the Pacific as well vs the Chinese also. To make it worse, when the allies were drawing up invasion plans for Japan mainland, the Japanese were forcing little kids and women to train to kill Americans who would come ashore and simply needed to surrender as they had no chance to win the war at this stage. Their leaders would rather see their own women and children die than surrender. Hence why we decided to use the atom bomb twice, sadly, to break their will to continue and cost tens of thousands of more American lives to invade Japan. Difficult decision, but Truman went through with it to save American lives, which he was obligated to do obviously. It was just a brutal war overall in Europe and the Pacific, both with the death toll. Sadly, many civilians were caught in the middle of it all.
It wasn't just Okinawan jumping off cliffs. The same thing happened on Saipan. Suicide cliff is now a US national landmark. 27,000 Japanese soldiers died on Saipan and 15,000 civilians. Saipan was the turning point for the war in the Pacific. Talk about a brutal place. My dad was a marine there in WWII. and also on Tinian. Thousands of jap soldiers and civilians committed suicide there.
I grew up in the 1950s. My best friend's father fought in the Battle of Okinawa except he was on a cruiser manning an anti-aircraft gun. His ship was hit by a kamakzi. He carried sharpnel in his body until the day he died. Okinawa was brutal for all that fought there.
The Japanese of the 1930s-40s were nothing like the Japanese of today. The Empire of Japan did some pretty horrific things in WW2, it's hard to believe some of the things they did and used to think. The Pacific paints an over-sympathetic picture of them, but if you listen to something like Dan Carlin's 'Hardcore History' podcasts (the episodes called 'Supernova In The East') you can start to realise why the Empire of Japan was so hated for a lot of things they did. Also I would say that you're not seeing 'hate' in this episode, you're seeing the reality of all War. It's more a feeling of depression at discovering what humans under control are like. To understand it in the end you need to go deeper and look into all wars, and then look at the reasons for their existence: Governments.
Violent conflict predates organized states - states are simply, on average, far more efficient at organizing and applying force at scale than non-state actors. The common denominator is people, not governments as we understand them today.
We need to get you a history book about the Pacific War and what led up to it. We fought for our Country, they fought for their Emperor, big difference.
For some added context, the personal hatred the Marines felt towards the Japanese was based on their cruelty and vicious resistance, rather than just simply race. You have to understand that each Island Campaign was essentially a new D-Day each time, or in several cases much worse. The Pacific campaign was brutal and this tone of this series reflects that.
Oh i think you will find that race was a huge part of it, it was 1940's amercia after all a time where non whites were still regarded as sub human and in fact some white nationals were also seen as sub human .... do not try and white wash history .. remember this was a time where the US army kept white blood and black blood seperate so that white soldiers did not get "contaminated" with black blood when injured. Japanese Americans were interned whilst German and Italian Amercians were not, what was the difference between these peoples? Two are white and one is not!
Hate, I can't say that I understand what true hatred is, but I've seen it. My uncle survived the Bataan Death March and spent years as a prisoner of war, a POW, and a slave laborer - he had hatred of the Japanese until the day he died. I never knew what happened to him until I seen a documentary the local TV station did in the early 1980s called "Memories of Hell." I saw it as a kid and it changed the way I looked at him and other vets...
The Japanese were taught from an early age that their lives belonged to the emperor. That is why they refused to surrender. The last Japanese soldier to surrender gave up in 1972.😮
The way the Japanese fought this battle was one of the reasons why the US decided to drop the atomic bombs rather than attempt an invasion of the Japanese mainland. Here, the Japanese army knew they would lose, but were determined to kill as many Americans as they could beforehand. They were also very eager to use Okinawan civilians (who they saw as inferior to "true" Japanese) as suicide bombers or human shields. It's possible that the civilian loaded with explosives with her infant was forced or "coerced" into doing that. This was also the deadliest battle for the US Navy, as well, even though the Navy was only mentioned briefly. The Japanese air forces and navy were almost entirely committed to kamikaze attacks by this point in the war, as they'd lost most of their experienced pilots. They even attempted to use the largest battleship ever build (Yamato) in what was essentially a one way suicide charge into the island, where it could hopefully be used as a stationary gun position. The US Navy sank it before it could get to Okinawa. I forget the exact numbers, but I think the Navy lost as many sailors at sea in this battle as the Marines and Army lost on land. The hatred comes from nearly 4 years of brutal jungle and island fighting against an enemy that seemed like they would never quit. In Japan, they were already mobilizing every man, woman, and child on the home islands to fight in what they called "The Glorious Death of One Hundred Million." The war in Europe was already wrapping up, so many fighting in the Pacific (not to mention civilians in the US) were eager for the war to end. The fact that it looked like it would carry on until 1946, '47, or maybe even '48 with a prolonged, even more brutal invasion of the Japanese mainland really worked on the psyche.
Right. The Japanese were holding back planes, ships, and boats, to make any landings on the Japanese mainland costly. They were also training women and children to fight, some with grenades or just spears. The death toll on both sides would have been tremendous.
To not take a side on war... If we had not taken a side in that war, Romania and Germany would have been much different. To not feel hate for an enemy who has killed everything good inside of you as well as your friends is a nice ideal, but not reality. If those who start wars are not challenged, what would become of the world?
While I understand where you're coming from and I agree with the sentiment in general, the war was started as much by the Allies as it was by the Axis. WW2 had no good guys - although some were certainly worse than others (Germany, Japan and the Soviets mainly) - and by that I'm not talking about the men who fought them, who did what they could and then wrestled what they did and saw for the rest of their lives, but of the politicians and elites who pushed the world to the brink.
@@willl676you are literally forgetting that Japan attacked us bases and killed us civilians in Hawaii, the us wasn’t engaging in the war in either theaters until the us got attacked. There’s a difference.
@@willl676yeah it was the allies that invaded Poland after years of concession on the terms of the treaty of Versailles. The only country that is to blame for starting that world war is the one that decided to invade another country
My grandfather wrote a book about his time in a P.O.W. camp in the Philippines and then Japan. The hatred, at the time, was being returned in like manner.
Good reaction! The women who were strapped with explosives did not volunteer for that. They were forced to by the Japanese soldiers. And yes, the Japanese soldiers were proud to be Japanese. But the real reason why they attacked openly straight into enemy fire was because surrendering to the enemy was considered to be deeply dishonourable to the soldier and his family. And this is also why the Japanese armed forces treated prisoners of war who surrendered to them with contempt (through killing, torture, starvation, and general mistreatment).
This is where my Great uncle died, assaulting the Shuri line. The Japanese were heavily dug in and on ridge lost three full regiments in three assaults. Two of those ended with 10% or less uninjured and alive. One lost about 70%. This was our precursor to what it was going to be like invading the Japanese home islands and it scared most of the command structure. 500,000 purple hearts were struck in anticipation of the FIRST wave of wounded. We ended up using that one batch in all the following wars through Desert Storm. Wrap your mind around that idea of casualty rates. The estimates were we would lose up to 5 million men dead and the Japanese between 10 to 20 million dead. They also estimated up to 2 more years of fighting. This is ultimately why they used the bomb. You can justify it as actually saving millions of lives by nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Which, when you consider it, is actually the kinder thing to have done, given the choice? My father was just offshore on the Bunker Hill aircraft carrier. He was a corsair pilot in the Jolly Rodgers squadron. He had just returned from a search and destroy mission over Kyushu and rather than an immediate debrief as was normal they were allowed to grab some sack time first. One of the men stayed in the galley area where they were to debrief to write a letter to his wife when the ship was hit by the first of two kamikaze which tore right through the galley killing the pilot and roasting many men in the heat and flames. Over 900 men died due to the 2 strikes. As suicide bombing was forbidden by the Laws of War this was considered a terrorist act and the greatest one up until 9-11.
Also I think your mistaken for Eugene’s hatred this is a quote from him “ it’s become popular to say we hated the Japanese because we’re racist, wrong we hated the Japanese because they fought with the code of Bushido which means you have to kill every last one of them before you could get the hell off the island and he made that difficult because he didn’t wanna die”
I have to think I would feel the same way Eugene did if I saw a mother and her baby forced to be a human bomb. That would take a lot to get over, if you ever could.
The hate certainly wasn't one sided. The Japanese hated the US just like they hated them. The Japanese were cruel, I mean far crueler then the nazies. And the Americans knew it. The Japanese used to have races to see who could cut off more prisoners heads in a certain amount of time. The war in the pacific was absolutely vicious. Both sides were heavily invested in dehumanizing their opponents.
The Japanese were initially greeted as liberators in a lot of countries across the Pacific that had suffered under Western colonial rule. They proved to be so much more brutal and intent on exploiting the natives, the men as slave laborers, and the native women as "comfort women" than the colonialists ever did. Even the collaborationist military forces they setup to support their occupation, the people that had initially been the most enthusiastic in supporting the Japanese, turned against them. These native military forces, originally organized and armed by the Japanese, later became the basis of the armed struggle against the return of Western colonizers in places like Indonesia, Myanmar, and other areas of Asia. I remember one interview I saw, one of these collaboration soldiers said the Japanese forced all native soldiers to salute them. So a general would have to salute a private simply because the private was Japanese. The Japanese also had no hesitation in slapping native soldiers in the face, an extreme humiliation in both cases. These are not the actions of an occupation authority that is intent on winning hearts and minds when they treat even the people that supported them like that.
Okinawa was the most lethal battle in the history of the US armed forces (Late edit: Sorry, second most lethal after Battle of the Bulge). It convinced American authorities that the Japanese high command would never surrender without the nuke attacks. And they STILL almost didn't surrender (a group of military officers tried to stage a coup to stop it).
This is all fiction, and a well-documented fiction at that. Terms of surrender had been offered and discussed. It was a message to the Soviet Union, plain and simple.
Japan did not surrendered because of nukes, what's the difference between a nuke or 1000+ strategic bombers throwing tons of incendiary bombs? Almost all Japanese cities (including Tokyo) were already destroyed by conventional bombing but they did not surrender. The main reason why they did surrender is Soviet invasion of Manchuria: Japan lost all remaining industry and resources (they developed Manchuria specifically for military purpose), they basically lost Korea, all their armies in continental Asia now became isolated and Japan itself/Hokkaido was open to an invasion by Soviets (which was very unlikely, but Japanese elites were even more terrified of communists than of Americans)
@bdleo300 Why can't it be both the nukes and the Soviet invasion of Manchuria? Why does it have to be one singular reason? It's not a dick measuring contest. The revisionist take on the reason why Japan surrendered was thought up by Soviets during the Cold War, so no doubt that they tried to make it all about them.
@@bdleo300 Wrong. Read the Emperor's surrender speech. "... a new and most cruel bomb..." He says nothing about the Soviets. So what if the Soviets invade Manchuria? At this stage, Japan was concerned only with an invasion of their island, and the Soviets had no means to make an amphibious invasion. No aircraft carriers, no radar, no landing vessels... your revisionist crap is false.
Trauma changes people. A few are fine, most are changed forever, some lose it and some can regain a part of their humanity, but will be scarred for life.
Not sure if someone already mentioned this in previous comments, but all the events with Eugene are based on his book called "With The Old Breed" that he released decades later at the recommendation of his family. The book is much more graphic. His wife originally recommended that he write down his memories because of his nightmares. He originally wrote it for therapy, then made a few copies for posterity. (Read More) When his kids read what their Dad had seen and did, they really encouraged him to publish it as a book, as it offered a rare insight into what Marines and soldiers go through when stationed at the front lines. Eugene was originally against it, but after enough coaxing, he eventually put it up for publishing, and to his surprise, it became a bestseller. General James "Mad Dog" Maddox of the USMC made it part of the Commandant's Reading List for the United States Marine Corps, basically his way of saying, "You want to know what combat is like? Here it is right here." That pipe that Joseph Mazzello (the actor who played Eugene) smokes throughout the episodes is the real pipe Eugene carried with him. Eugene's family gifted it to him as a way of saying thanks for telling their Grandfather's story.
A little correction is that the Okinawan mother with baby that was strapped with explosives was forced to walk out there. The Japanese shot the explosives to detonate. The Okinawan natives were treated horribly by the Japanese. Because of their fascist doctrine, they considered Okinawan natives as expendable. Many civilians were also forced to commit suicide. The Japanese told the natives that the Americans were savages and would rape and torture them if they were caught.
The Mother was being forced to walk into the Marines and the bomb was set off by her being shot from behind. She was trying to save her baby's life. My Dad was a Corpsman during the Battle of Okinawa.
I had an uncle by marriage I never knew. He was a bomber pilot whose plane was hit "somewhere over the Pacific" He told his crew to bail out and held his burning plane steady even when he was literally burning up. 6 0f his crew parachuted to safety, but he went down with his plane, was decorated posthumously. No trace of him was ever found. I'm sure if you asked him, he would have argued that he was "just doing his job" and was no hero, even if the Army Air Force said differently. That was who they were. His wife, my aunt, never remarried, no kids and was an MD. She had a very lucrative private practice, but also worked for 40 years at Veteran's Administration hospitals. I can say with genuine pride that I knew a war hero.
I love your comments. Please, never lose the way you think. You cannot justify hate. However, to understand the perspective of the American's, you should understand that the Japanese were not fighting for their country, but for their emperor who was considered a God. Anyone who was not Japanese was considered sub-human including the Okinawan people. There were American POW's who were severely mistreated and starved. When the Americans got close to liberating the island, the Japanese forced the POW's into dug outs and sealed them inside. Then they poured fuel into the dug outs and set them on fire burning the prisoners alive. They had set up machine guns to shoot anyone who tried to escape being burned. The Japanese now are completely different than those from WW II. The only problem is that Germany teaches their young people about the atrocities of the Holocaust so that it will not be repeated. Japan ignores the atrocities committed by their military, so their young people have no idea of the war crimes committed by the Japanese during WW II.
War is ugly. It's all bloody and horrible. But the pacific was a completely different war than the one in europe. Germans didn't just sacrifice their bodies on a whim like the Japanese. This war was more brutal if that is actually possible.
I'm sure a thousand people have mentioned it by now but _she_ (the mother with the baby) didn't do that. The japanese were using the Okinawans as shields and human bombs.
The Okinawa campaign is the same one Desmond Doss was in when his unit fought on Hacksaw Ridge. It is important to note that Imperial Japan did sign the Geneva Convention and therefore did not adhere to the rules of war. You saw this in the movie Hacksaw Ridge. Under the rules of war it was considered a war crime to: 1. kill wounded soldiers 2. shoot medics 3. display a white flag in order to attack your enemy. In this episode you see Japanese soldiers use civilians in battle in order to gain an advantage over the Americans. Using civilians in this way was and still is a war crime. The Japanese disregarded the welfare of civilians in all the territories they administered. They were taught that their race was the master race and destined to rule the world in much the same way as the Nazis. Unfortunately such ideology is still with us today except now it's a religion that is destined to rule the world.😢 ABSOLUTELY LOVE 💕 YOUR REACTIONS.
Which makes it all the more horrific when Americans, who were taught *they* were the master race (don't pretend this isn't true, manifest destiny and all that wonderful propaganda), and who viewed all Asians as inferior (again all too true), commit the same war crimes and worse, (firebombing of dozens of Japanese cities, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians in a matter of hours).... and yet their descendants have been groomed to *_refuse to acknowledge it_* and pretend they were the good guys.
Ur right about one thing. Ive humped most terrain and weather, all over the world. Jungle terrain, full heat and humidity, combined with rain ...sux so bad!
You have to realize that these men, the Marines and the Japanese had been fighting for 3 years at that point. They had seen their brothers drop for years on both sides. Hate is inevitable.
"in their story you're the villain" OHH Hell to the no... I'm from Singapore What did my grand uncle do to get executed by the Japanese at Changi Beach blindfolded and shot... Left to rot with countless other civilians on the sand? my great grand parents lost all 3 sons (my grand uncles) when Singapore fell and their last remaining child, my grandma survived the the occupation.. If things went sideways for her I won't even be typing this comment... You can Google up "sook ching, fall of Singapore" & "the gRape of Nanking" Definitely not the villains.. F that... When my grandma learned about the 2 atomic bombs she and her parents wept tears of joy and lamented that the Americans didn't drop more..
Were the Japanese on Okinawa the same individuals at Changi? If not, then the Okinawan individuals had their own stories filled with Imperial army propaganda which convinced Okinawans the invaders to their island were villains. Japanese war crimes elsewhere and during the battle of Okinawa doesn't change the perspectives of locals.
Sledgehammer didn't hold that woman. He walked away and another marine shot her. He ,did refuse to pull the trigger, but that was the best he could do. He was still full of hate. She was not likely Japanese either. Probably an older "comfort" woman.
Biss sometimes we have to fight because there is evil in the world and evil must be destroyed. You have a beautiful heart and I wish everyone had one like your's.❤😊
The Japanese looked down on Okinawans as inferior dogs, they used them as human shields and shot mothers with their babies that tried to flee the war zone. Same thing on Saipan Island, Japanese told the locals American would rape and torture them,. There's film clips showing mothers tossing their babies off of a cliff onto the rocks below before jumping themselves. So when you constantly refer to the excuse that both sides were just "fighting for their country", I would suggest you might want to immerse yourself a little bit deeper into WWII Pacific conflict from here on out, because you're comparing apples to oranges in your ignorance. By the way, after the war, the Government of Japan, up to the present, denied they ever did any atrocities during this time period, to counter that bald face lie, I would suggest reading a book "The Rape Of Nanking", photo evidence is readily available using a search engine.
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2:28 Okinawa was one of the worst parts of the pacific war if not the WWII.i currently live in Okinawa and I have to say I love living here for over 10 years. I can speak enough of language and it’s a gorgeous place to be. 3:35 Yes, it does rain a lot but they probably went during the rainy season which here in Okinawa it’s so dang much of it. 4:56 The locals or natives of Okinawa did not deserve what the Japanese did. Many of them were told to either fight with the Japanese or be used for human bombs or other things that’s very heartbreaking. 6:11 Depending on the order, it can be questioned by you must give a damn good reason or source on why it should be questioned. However, during this time of the war, they don’t question it but just go with what their leaders say. 7:05 As I mentioned, the Okinawans had no choice but to do whatever the Japanese military said. If it means you must be used as a human bomb with your baby, that’s what will happen. It’s very hard to watch. She didn’t have no choice. She was asking the Marines to please take her baby before she was blown up. 7:55 During battles, sometimes miscommunication can be made or if the intelligence says to go somewhere with our more detail, they will go. 8:36 When you’ve been out on the frontlines as the Marines have here, their mindsets change because they see the “people of that country” who is trying to kill them as if it’s everyone thinking the same. His mindset is changing. 9:46 I believe he is counting the days. 11:42 The hate here is showing already did consume him during that time. 14:02 At this point, he realizes how things are going and yes he regains his humanity because of the baby and the woman. Also, I believe this was the same house they told him to fire the bomb at. Hate is such a strong word to use on anyone or a group of people because of the actions of one person who belongs to that group of people. Still love watching your reactions!
FYI- The 4 lines with a diagonal line running through it is way to count a 5 day period time, everyday for 4 days in arow a mark a vertical line until you reach the fifth day you then draw diagonal line through the 4 vertical lines which then totals a 5 day period of time then you add up all the 5 day blocks of time to record the sum of days that passed by.
After watching the war moives, I know some good Australian moives that will put a smile on your face. Such as Muriel's Wedding and The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert and Strictly Ballroom. Red Dog is also very good to, and it's bound to make you smile. So if you had enough of war, then try these feel good moives and see if you like them. If do watch any of these moives, just be prepared for alot of Australian humour and slang.
The civillians got forced by the Japanese to wear booby traps and so on... Back then, the Japanese Imperial soldiers didnt think much of Okinawans, since they lived on a secluded island.. They looked at them as basically foreigners...
None of the islands they fought before had a major native population. Sadly Okinawans are still discriminated against by mainland Japanese. That mother was probably Okinawan, and forced by mainland Japanese to do that. Probably threaten the rest of her family. For a feel good palate cleanser, try "Mary Poppins" as a reaction.
The Japanese looked down on the Okinawa People as "no real Japanese" and used them as Slaves. They forced them to do really horrible Shit and they killed them whenever they feeled like doing it. And they still cared more for them then for Prisoners of War. So go figure.
I find this entire series a hard watch. This was such a brutal conflict between people of cultures that were so fundamentally different that it was hard to find any common ground at all. The worst part is that having read Sledge's book about his experience in the war (on which the series is partially based), I see that the tv series is actually toned down quite a lot.
Somę Okinowans were brainwashed and some were forced to be human shields for Japanese soldiers. For the Japanese of the day, they considered themselves the master race who was destined to rule the barbarians of the rest of the world... that's your and me... (the Japanese were brainwashed). Consequently, they saw Okinowans as sub-human and disposable. I certainly don't think the woman with the baby, that the Japanese strapped explosives to, wanted her baby to die: the Japanese soldiers behind her shot the explosives to set them off. This is why Sledge developed such hatred for the Japanese enemy: for the horrors they perpetrated on those innocent civilian women and children right before his eyes. How couldn't you want to kill every last Japanese soldier after seeing that? But the compassion and humanity Sledge showed to the dying Okinowan woman in the hut demonstrated that after all those horrors, he was still Eugene: he didn't have his soul torn out, like his father worried about.
Yeah, and Americans were totally -not- racists back then, read how US propaganda and generals described Japanese people... or how immediately after Pearl Harbor they arrested every Japanese civilian in the US, women, children, everyone, and sent them to concentration camps.
Biss....I'm not one of those ppl...unless it's super heavy and depressing, I can pretty much watch anything...which has come from watching some pretty horrific shit...😮
The Japanese were incredibly brutal soldiers. They treated almost everyone they came across as second class citizens, especially the Okinawans that inhabited the island. The woman with her child didn’t want to strap a bomb to herself to kill Americans. She was forced to by the Japanese. The baby was a trick to get a bunch of Americans to take the baby in and then they would’ve detonated the explosive.
`You have to realise that how you fight for your own country they are fighting for their country, so in their story you are the villain`. Great summary quote for this episode, keep up the good work
That being said the Japanese army was trained in a level of brutality that wasn't practiced in most western armies. It was standardized. Nazis probably had the worse ideology but there was general civiliity between prisoners on the western front. At the individual level I'm sure there were a lot of good japanese soldiers, but I don't think it's a complete moral equivalence.
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War is the worst thing oone person can do to another. I abhore it, but in this case it had to be done. The Japanese were set on making the whole of Asia their colonial empire. All other peoples there were less than human to them. The atrocities that the Japaanese committed on these people were horrendous. They had to be stopped. The native people of Okinawa were expendable to the Japanese and were brainwashed into believing the Americans would kill them in the most horrendous ways, so many committed suicide. Others like that woman were forced to become weapons and walk in among the Americans and blow themselves up. This woman was allowed to take her child with her to get some soldier to set up and take it and then someone would set off her explosives. This battle went on form months and was extremely brutal as was the whole war in the Pacific. Not even in Europe was it this brutal. The Americans were on the line the entire time. There was no taking them off the line to relax. In this kind of situation your humanity disappears and as you seek to live day after day, your soul melts away. The lessons of these battles caused changes in the way troops are treated today and they are now removed from direct combat to at least rest and recoup. The Japanese soldier too at this point started to realize they could not win the war and for the first time many hundreds did choose to surrender rather that fight to their death. The Japanese soldiers had been on these islandss for years awaiting a possible attack with no chance of being reinforced and resuplied. Those on islands not attacked by Americans were left to starve to death since there was no way off the islands and once the supplies were gone it was imposssible to feed thousands of them. It has been estimated that about a million Japanese soldiers died this way. This whole war was just a hell on earth for all and all the result of philosophies built on racial superiority and undying loyalty to the state. Sadly it seems that America might just be getting ready to take her turn at this political system with the idea that there is only one way to believe and think and religion that serves one individual who now speaks for all.
It is a magnificent series Miss Bisscute and a great reaction, you are rigth war Is Ugly and full of hate. To complete your experience and knowledge of the Second World War in the Pacific, I suggest you react to the films directed by Clint Eastwood: Flags of our Fathers (2006) and Letters from Iwo Jima (2006) as well as the film starring Nicholas Cage. Windtalkers (2002).
The Japanese army at the time didn't consider local Okinawans as true "Japanese" and often used them as human shields, convinced them to commit suicide (as an alternative to surrendering), or outright killed them. Approx 150,000 civilian died over the 3 month battle (30% of the island's native population). I went to a battlefield tour on the island and it's very sobering, especially the Peace Prayer Park at the southern part of the island. That is where the Japanese made their last stand, and thousands jumped off the cliffs to their deaths, including many civilians who were convinced it was a better alternative than what the Americans would do to them. The area is now a museum/memorial dedicated to peace.
The woman didn't want to carry the bomb. That's why she was crying and asking for her baby to saved. The Okinawans were considered to be inferior by the Japanese. Knowing that they were going to die for their Emperor the Japanese soldiers had no qualms about forcing the Okinawans to do so as well.
In fact the Okinawans had been fed with so much propaganda about the cruelty of the Americans that the civilians would often commit suicide before the Americans could liberate them from the Japanese.
You can see films of mothers leaping from cliffs with their children because they had been told that the Americans would eat their babies.
Yeah when I first learned about the mass cliff jumpers it was forever scorched into my memory. Tragic
Okinawa may have had that happen, but I know for sure the woman that you usually see jumping off a cliff, and then it cuts to a child floating in the ocean was taken from Saipan. You are absolutely correct in that the Japanese were absolutely barbaric to the people in Okinawa!
This is a very good post and is historically accurate 💯. The Japanese empire was absolutely brutal. They committed awful atrocities across the Pacific as well vs the Chinese also. To make it worse, when the allies were drawing up invasion plans for Japan mainland, the Japanese were forcing little kids and women to train to kill Americans who would come ashore and simply needed to surrender as they had no chance to win the war at this stage. Their leaders would rather see their own women and children die than surrender. Hence why we decided to use the atom bomb twice, sadly, to break their will to continue and cost tens of thousands of more American lives to invade Japan. Difficult decision, but Truman went through with it to save American lives, which he was obligated to do obviously. It was just a brutal war overall in Europe and the Pacific, both with the death toll. Sadly, many civilians were caught in the middle of it all.
女性が爆弾をつけられているシーンは、Eugene氏の著作にはなくて
ドラマのオリジナルです
私は沖縄に住んでいましたが、当時のに日本が沖縄を蔑視していたという説は、
日本の共産主義者(Communism)が広めた誇張或いは虚偽であることを知っています
1972年に沖縄はアメリカの統治を離れて日本に戻りましたが
当時の沖縄の人々は大喜びしました
しかし哀しい事に、日本からAnpo protestsに失敗したCommunism達が
沖縄に活動の場所を移して、教育界やマスメディア界を占領し
嘘のプロパガンダをやりはじめ沖縄の人々を洗脳して
日本が沖縄を蔑視していたと信じる人が増えてしまいました
沖縄の老人で当時の日本や日本軍が好きだったと証言する人々が
多いのを私は実際に知っています
現在、伝わっている沖縄への大日本帝国の悪行というものは、
Communismのpropagandaの嘘や誇張が多いのは注意が必要です
It wasn't just Okinawan jumping off cliffs. The same thing happened on Saipan. Suicide cliff is now a US national landmark. 27,000 Japanese soldiers died on Saipan and 15,000 civilians. Saipan was the turning point for the war in the Pacific. Talk about a brutal place. My dad was a marine there in WWII. and also on Tinian. Thousands of jap soldiers and civilians committed suicide there.
I grew up in the 1950s. My best friend's father fought in the Battle of Okinawa except he was on a cruiser manning an anti-aircraft gun. His ship was hit by a kamakzi. He carried sharpnel in his body until the day he died. Okinawa was brutal for all that fought there.
More brutal for the Okinawans That had to deal with the Japanese that used them as human shields.
The Japanese of the 1930s-40s were nothing like the Japanese of today. The Empire of Japan did some pretty horrific things in WW2, it's hard to believe some of the things they did and used to think. The Pacific paints an over-sympathetic picture of them, but if you listen to something like Dan Carlin's 'Hardcore History' podcasts (the episodes called 'Supernova In The East') you can start to realise why the Empire of Japan was so hated for a lot of things they did.
Also I would say that you're not seeing 'hate' in this episode, you're seeing the reality of all War. It's more a feeling of depression at discovering what humans under control are like. To understand it in the end you need to go deeper and look into all wars, and then look at the reasons for their existence: Governments.
Violent conflict predates organized states - states are simply, on average, far more efficient at organizing and applying force at scale than non-state actors. The common denominator is people, not governments as we understand them today.
@@QuantumFerret , in what world?blah blah blah
We need to get you a history book about the Pacific War and what led up to it. We fought for our Country, they fought for their Emperor, big difference.
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For some added context, the personal hatred the Marines felt towards the Japanese was based on their cruelty and vicious resistance, rather than just simply race. You have to understand that each Island Campaign was essentially a new D-Day each time, or in several cases much worse. The Pacific campaign was brutal and this tone of this series reflects that.
Oh i think you will find that race was a huge part of it, it was 1940's amercia after all a time where non whites were still regarded as sub human and in fact some white nationals were also seen as sub human .... do not try and white wash history .. remember this was a time where the US army kept white blood and black blood seperate so that white soldiers did not get "contaminated" with black blood when injured. Japanese Americans were interned whilst German and Italian Amercians were not, what was the difference between these peoples? Two are white and one is not!
You should read about the virgin cliffs where hundreds of school girls jumped off a cliff bc they were told to do it or the marines would eat them.
Might do that someday ❤️
Hate, I can't say that I understand what true hatred is, but I've seen it. My uncle survived the Bataan Death March and spent years as a prisoner of war, a POW, and a slave laborer - he had hatred of the Japanese until the day he died. I never knew what happened to him until I seen a documentary the local TV station did in the early 1980s called "Memories of Hell." I saw it as a kid and it changed the way I looked at him and other vets...
The Japanese were taught from an early age that their lives belonged to the emperor. That is why they refused to surrender. The last Japanese soldier to surrender gave up in 1972.😮
The way the Japanese fought this battle was one of the reasons why the US decided to drop the atomic bombs rather than attempt an invasion of the Japanese mainland. Here, the Japanese army knew they would lose, but were determined to kill as many Americans as they could beforehand. They were also very eager to use Okinawan civilians (who they saw as inferior to "true" Japanese) as suicide bombers or human shields. It's possible that the civilian loaded with explosives with her infant was forced or "coerced" into doing that.
This was also the deadliest battle for the US Navy, as well, even though the Navy was only mentioned briefly. The Japanese air forces and navy were almost entirely committed to kamikaze attacks by this point in the war, as they'd lost most of their experienced pilots. They even attempted to use the largest battleship ever build (Yamato) in what was essentially a one way suicide charge into the island, where it could hopefully be used as a stationary gun position. The US Navy sank it before it could get to Okinawa. I forget the exact numbers, but I think the Navy lost as many sailors at sea in this battle as the Marines and Army lost on land.
The hatred comes from nearly 4 years of brutal jungle and island fighting against an enemy that seemed like they would never quit. In Japan, they were already mobilizing every man, woman, and child on the home islands to fight in what they called "The Glorious Death of One Hundred Million." The war in Europe was already wrapping up, so many fighting in the Pacific (not to mention civilians in the US) were eager for the war to end. The fact that it looked like it would carry on until 1946, '47, or maybe even '48 with a prolonged, even more brutal invasion of the Japanese mainland really worked on the psyche.
Right. The Japanese were holding back planes, ships, and boats, to make any landings on the Japanese mainland costly. They were also training women and children to fight, some with grenades or just spears. The death toll on both sides would have been tremendous.
To not take a side on war... If we had not taken a side in that war, Romania and Germany would have been much different. To not feel hate for an enemy who has killed everything good inside of you as well as your friends is a nice ideal, but not reality. If those who start wars are not challenged, what would become of the world?
While I understand where you're coming from and I agree with the sentiment in general, the war was started as much by the Allies as it was by the Axis. WW2 had no good guys - although some were certainly worse than others (Germany, Japan and the Soviets mainly) - and by that I'm not talking about the men who fought them, who did what they could and then wrestled what they did and saw for the rest of their lives, but of the politicians and elites who pushed the world to the brink.
@@willl676you are literally forgetting that Japan attacked us bases and killed us civilians in Hawaii, the us wasn’t engaging in the war in either theaters until the us got attacked. There’s a difference.
@@willl676yeah it was the allies that invaded Poland after years of concession on the terms of the treaty of Versailles. The only country that is to blame for starting that world war is the one that decided to invade another country
@@willl676Moral imbecility.
My grandfather wrote a book about his time in a P.O.W. camp in the Philippines and then Japan. The hatred, at the time, was being returned in like manner.
Good reaction! The women who were strapped with explosives did not volunteer for that. They were forced to by the Japanese soldiers. And yes, the Japanese soldiers were proud to be Japanese. But the real reason why they attacked openly straight into enemy fire was because surrendering to the enemy was considered to be deeply dishonourable to the soldier and his family. And this is also why the Japanese armed forces treated prisoners of war who surrendered to them with contempt (through killing, torture, starvation, and general mistreatment).
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This is where my Great uncle died, assaulting the Shuri line. The Japanese were heavily dug in and on ridge lost three full regiments in three assaults. Two of those ended with 10% or less uninjured and alive. One lost about 70%. This was our precursor to what it was going to be like invading the Japanese home islands and it scared most of the command structure. 500,000 purple hearts were struck in anticipation of the FIRST wave of wounded. We ended up using that one batch in all the following wars through Desert Storm. Wrap your mind around that idea of casualty rates. The estimates were we would lose up to 5 million men dead and the Japanese between 10 to 20 million dead. They also estimated up to 2 more years of fighting. This is ultimately why they used the bomb. You can justify it as actually saving millions of lives by nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Which, when you consider it, is actually the kinder thing to have done, given the choice?
My father was just offshore on the Bunker Hill aircraft carrier. He was a corsair pilot in the Jolly Rodgers squadron. He had just returned from a search and destroy mission over Kyushu and rather than an immediate debrief as was normal they were allowed to grab some sack time first. One of the men stayed in the galley area where they were to debrief to write a letter to his wife when the ship was hit by the first of two kamikaze which tore right through the galley killing the pilot and roasting many men in the heat and flames. Over 900 men died due to the 2 strikes. As suicide bombing was forbidden by the Laws of War this was considered a terrorist act and the greatest one up until 9-11.
Also I think your mistaken for Eugene’s hatred this is a quote from him
“ it’s become popular to say we hated the Japanese because we’re racist, wrong we hated the Japanese because they fought with the code of Bushido which means you have to kill every last one of them before you could get the hell off the island and he made that difficult because he didn’t wanna die”
I have to think I would feel the same way Eugene did if I saw a mother and her baby forced to be a human bomb. That would take a lot to get over, if you ever could.
The hate certainly wasn't one sided. The Japanese hated the US just like they hated them. The Japanese were cruel, I mean far crueler then the nazies. And the Americans knew it. The Japanese used to have races to see who could cut off more prisoners heads in a certain amount of time. The war in the pacific was absolutely vicious. Both sides were heavily invested in dehumanizing their opponents.
The Japanese were initially greeted as liberators in a lot of countries across the Pacific that had suffered under Western colonial rule. They proved to be so much more brutal and intent on exploiting the natives, the men as slave laborers, and the native women as "comfort women" than the colonialists ever did. Even the collaborationist military forces they setup to support their occupation, the people that had initially been the most enthusiastic in supporting the Japanese, turned against them. These native military forces, originally organized and armed by the Japanese, later became the basis of the armed struggle against the return of Western colonizers in places like Indonesia, Myanmar, and other areas of Asia.
I remember one interview I saw, one of these collaboration soldiers said the Japanese forced all native soldiers to salute them. So a general would have to salute a private simply because the private was Japanese. The Japanese also had no hesitation in slapping native soldiers in the face, an extreme humiliation in both cases. These are not the actions of an occupation authority that is intent on winning hearts and minds when they treat even the people that supported them like that.
Okinawa was the most lethal battle in the history of the US armed forces (Late edit: Sorry, second most lethal after Battle of the Bulge). It convinced American authorities that the Japanese high command would never surrender without the nuke attacks. And they STILL almost didn't surrender (a group of military officers tried to stage a coup to stop it).
This is all fiction, and a well-documented fiction at that. Terms of surrender had been offered and discussed. It was a message to the Soviet Union, plain and simple.
Japan did not surrendered because of nukes, what's the difference between a nuke or 1000+ strategic bombers throwing tons of incendiary bombs? Almost all Japanese cities (including Tokyo) were already destroyed by conventional bombing but they did not surrender. The main reason why they did surrender is Soviet invasion of Manchuria: Japan lost all remaining industry and resources (they developed Manchuria specifically for military purpose), they basically lost Korea, all their armies in continental Asia now became isolated and Japan itself/Hokkaido was open to an invasion by Soviets (which was very unlikely, but Japanese elites were even more terrified of communists than of Americans)
@@bdleo300 The difference is emotional. Which is the difference they were going for with the kamikaze attacks. It wasn't an accounting ledger, buddy.
@bdleo300 Why can't it be both the nukes and the Soviet invasion of Manchuria? Why does it have to be one singular reason? It's not a dick measuring contest. The revisionist take on the reason why Japan surrendered was thought up by Soviets during the Cold War, so no doubt that they tried to make it all about them.
@@bdleo300 Wrong. Read the Emperor's surrender speech. "... a new and most cruel bomb..." He says nothing about the Soviets. So what if the Soviets invade Manchuria? At this stage, Japan was concerned only with an invasion of their island, and the Soviets had no means to make an amphibious invasion. No aircraft carriers, no radar, no landing vessels... your revisionist crap is false.
Trauma changes people. A few are fine, most are changed forever, some lose it and some can regain a part of their humanity, but will be scarred for life.
Not sure if someone already mentioned this in previous comments, but all the events with Eugene are based on his book called "With The Old Breed" that he released decades later at the recommendation of his family. The book is much more graphic.
His wife originally recommended that he write down his memories because of his nightmares. He originally wrote it for therapy, then made a few copies for posterity. (Read More)
When his kids read what their Dad had seen and did, they really encouraged him to publish it as a book, as it offered a rare insight into what Marines and soldiers go through when stationed at the front lines. Eugene was originally against it, but after enough coaxing, he eventually put it up for publishing, and to his surprise, it became a bestseller.
General James "Mad Dog" Maddox of the USMC made it part of the Commandant's Reading List for the United States Marine Corps, basically his way of saying, "You want to know what combat is like? Here it is right here."
That pipe that Joseph Mazzello (the actor who played Eugene) smokes throughout the episodes is the real pipe Eugene carried with him. Eugene's family gifted it to him as a way of saying thanks for telling their Grandfather's story.
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@@BissFlix Hey, thanks for the reactions. It's always fun to watch your channel.
A little correction is that the Okinawan mother with baby that was strapped with explosives was forced to walk out there. The Japanese shot the explosives to detonate. The Okinawan natives were treated horribly by the Japanese. Because of their fascist doctrine, they considered Okinawan natives as expendable. Many civilians were also forced to commit suicide. The Japanese told the natives that the Americans were savages and would rape and torture them if they were caught.
The Mother was being forced to walk into the Marines and the bomb was set off by her being shot from behind. She was trying to save her baby's life.
My Dad was a Corpsman during the Battle of Okinawa.
I had an uncle by marriage I never knew. He was a bomber pilot whose plane was hit "somewhere over the Pacific" He told his crew to bail out and held his burning plane steady even when he was literally burning up. 6 0f his crew parachuted to safety, but he went down with his plane, was decorated posthumously. No trace of him was ever found. I'm sure if you asked him, he would have argued that he was "just doing his job" and was no hero, even if the Army Air Force said differently. That was who they were. His wife, my aunt, never remarried, no kids and was an MD. She had a very lucrative private practice, but also worked for 40 years at Veteran's Administration hospitals. I can say with genuine pride that I knew a war hero.
I love your comments. Please, never lose the way you think. You cannot justify hate. However, to understand the perspective of the American's, you should understand that the Japanese were not fighting for their country, but for their emperor who was considered a God. Anyone who was not Japanese was considered sub-human including the Okinawan people. There were American POW's who were severely mistreated and starved. When the Americans got close to liberating the island, the Japanese forced the POW's into dug outs and sealed them inside. Then they poured fuel into the dug outs and set them on fire burning the prisoners alive. They had set up machine guns to shoot anyone who tried to escape being burned. The Japanese now are completely different than those from WW II. The only problem is that Germany teaches their young people about the atrocities of the Holocaust so that it will not be repeated. Japan ignores the atrocities committed by their military, so their young people have no idea of the war crimes committed by the Japanese during WW II.
War is ugly. It's all bloody and horrible. But the pacific was a completely different war than the one in europe. Germans didn't just sacrifice their bodies on a whim like the Japanese.
This war was more brutal if that is actually possible.
Congrats! You made it. Your reward is coming for all the horrors you had to watch throughout the series: Episode 10.
I'm sure a thousand people have mentioned it by now but _she_ (the mother with the baby) didn't do that. The japanese were using the Okinawans as shields and human bombs.
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The Okinawa campaign is the same one Desmond Doss was in when his unit fought on Hacksaw Ridge. It is important to note that Imperial Japan did sign the Geneva Convention and therefore did not adhere to the rules of war. You saw this in the movie Hacksaw Ridge. Under the rules of war it was considered a war crime to: 1. kill wounded soldiers 2. shoot medics 3. display a white flag in order to attack your enemy. In this episode you see Japanese soldiers use civilians in battle in order to gain an advantage over the Americans. Using civilians in this way was and still is a war crime. The Japanese disregarded the welfare of civilians in all the territories they administered. They were taught that their race was the master race and destined to rule the world in much the same way as the Nazis. Unfortunately such ideology is still with us today except now it's a religion that is destined to rule the world.😢 ABSOLUTELY LOVE 💕 YOUR REACTIONS.
Which makes it all the more horrific when Americans, who were taught *they* were the master race (don't pretend this isn't true, manifest destiny and all that wonderful propaganda), and who viewed all Asians as inferior (again all too true), commit the same war crimes and worse, (firebombing of dozens of Japanese cities, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians in a matter of hours).... and yet their descendants have been groomed to *_refuse to acknowledge it_* and pretend they were the good guys.
The first casuality of war is always your humanity
Ur right about one thing. Ive humped most terrain and weather, all over the world. Jungle terrain, full heat and humidity, combined with rain ...sux so bad!
I believe that
You have to realize that these men, the Marines and the Japanese had been fighting for 3 years at that point. They had seen their brothers drop for years on both sides. Hate is inevitable.
"in their story you're the villain"
OHH Hell to the no... I'm from Singapore
What did my grand uncle do to get executed by the Japanese at Changi Beach blindfolded and shot... Left to rot with countless other civilians on the sand? my great grand parents lost all 3 sons (my grand uncles) when Singapore fell and their last remaining child, my grandma survived the the occupation.. If things went sideways for her I won't even be typing this comment... You can Google up "sook ching, fall of Singapore" &
"the gRape of Nanking"
Definitely not the villains.. F that... When my grandma learned about the 2 atomic bombs she and her parents wept tears of joy and lamented that the Americans didn't drop more..
Were the Japanese on Okinawa the same individuals at Changi? If not, then the Okinawan individuals had their own stories filled with Imperial army propaganda which convinced Okinawans the invaders to their island were villains. Japanese war crimes elsewhere and during the battle of Okinawa doesn't change the perspectives of locals.
Sledgehammer didn't hold that woman. He walked away and another marine shot her. He ,did refuse to pull the trigger, but that was the best he could do. He was still full of hate. She was not likely Japanese either. Probably an older "comfort" woman.
Biss sometimes we have to fight because there is evil in the world and evil must be destroyed. You have a beautiful heart and I wish everyone had one like your's.❤😊
This episode protray the battle of Okinawa, which is the battle depicted in Hacksaw Ridge !
"The best kept secret of WW2 are the atrocities commited by the Japanese"
-Eugene Sledge
He was excellent in the Queen biopic! Japanese people were told American soldiers were bloodthirsty crazy insane cannibals, all kinds of crap.
Awesome reaction of my favorite episode of Echo!!!!😊😊😊😊😊
The Japanese looked down on Okinawans as inferior dogs, they used them as human shields and shot mothers with their babies that tried to flee the war zone. Same thing on Saipan Island, Japanese told the locals American would rape and torture them,. There's film clips showing mothers tossing their babies off of a cliff onto the rocks below before jumping themselves. So when you constantly refer to the excuse that both sides were just "fighting for their country", I would suggest you might want to immerse yourself a little bit deeper into WWII Pacific conflict from here on out, because you're comparing apples to oranges in your ignorance.
By the way, after the war, the Government of Japan, up to the present, denied they ever did any atrocities during this time period, to counter that bald face lie, I would suggest reading a book "The Rape Of Nanking", photo evidence is readily available using a search engine.
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You get to have a perspective that soldiers aren't afforded
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The mother was forced to wear TNT.
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yes, Hildago would be great for her to react to, good recommendation!
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Okinawa was one of the worst parts of the pacific war if not the WWII.i currently live in Okinawa and I have to say I love living here for over 10 years. I can speak enough of language and it’s a gorgeous place to be.
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Yes, it does rain a lot but they probably went during the rainy season which here in Okinawa it’s so dang much of it.
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The locals or natives of Okinawa did not deserve what the Japanese did. Many of them were told to either fight with the Japanese or be used for human bombs or other things that’s very heartbreaking.
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Depending on the order, it can be questioned by you must give a damn good reason or source on why it should be questioned. However, during this time of the war, they don’t question it but just go with what their leaders say.
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As I mentioned, the Okinawans had no choice but to do whatever the Japanese military said. If it means you must be used as a human bomb with your baby, that’s what will happen. It’s very hard to watch. She didn’t have no choice. She was asking the Marines to please take her baby before she was blown up.
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During battles, sometimes miscommunication can be made or if the intelligence says to go somewhere with our more detail, they will go.
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When you’ve been out on the frontlines as the Marines have here, their mindsets change because they see the “people of that country” who is trying to kill them as if it’s everyone thinking the same. His mindset is changing.
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I believe he is counting the days.
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The hate here is showing already did consume him during that time.
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At this point, he realizes how things are going and yes he regains his humanity because of the baby and the woman. Also, I believe this was the same house they told him to fire the bomb at.
Hate is such a strong word to use on anyone or a group of people because of the actions of one person who belongs to that group of people. Still love watching your reactions!
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My dad's neighbor was a Marine in this battle. It ruined his life and turned him into an alcoholic.
That’s sad to hear, thanks for watching ❤️
FYI- The 4 lines with a diagonal line running through it is way to count a 5 day period time, everyday for 4 days in arow a mark a vertical line until you reach the fifth day you then draw diagonal line through the 4 vertical lines which then totals a 5 day period of time then you add up all the 5 day blocks of time to record the sum of days that passed by.
After watching the war moives, I know some good Australian moives that will put a smile on your face. Such as Muriel's Wedding and The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert and Strictly Ballroom. Red Dog is also very good to, and it's bound to make you smile. So if you had enough of war, then try these feel good moives and see if you like them. If do watch any of these moives, just be prepared for alot of Australian humour and slang.
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i think the biggest difference between band of brothers and pacific was the narration in band of brothers each episode was nice
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Thank you Biss.
The civillians got forced by the Japanese to wear booby traps and so on... Back then, the Japanese Imperial soldiers didnt think much of Okinawans, since they lived on a secluded island.. They looked at them as basically foreigners...
Hiroshima : August 6
Nagazaki : August 9
None of the islands they fought before had a major native population. Sadly Okinawans are still discriminated against by mainland Japanese. That mother was probably Okinawan, and forced by mainland Japanese to do that. Probably threaten the rest of her family.
For a feel good palate cleanser, try "Mary Poppins" as a reaction.
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i hate how band of brothers and the pacific is just war porn for some people. and biss totally misunderstood this episode.
The Japanese looked down on the Okinawa People as "no real Japanese" and used them as Slaves. They forced them to do really horrible Shit and they killed them whenever they feeled like doing it. And they still cared more for them then for Prisoners of War. So go figure.
“Japanese people are very proud to be Japanese.” Yeah, and the Germans were very proud to be German. What’s the difference?
Yeah, shallow.
Oh Kung Fu Panda is a lot of fun!
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I find this entire series a hard watch. This was such a brutal conflict between people of cultures that were so fundamentally different that it was hard to find any common ground at all.
The worst part is that having read Sledge's book about his experience in the war (on which the series is partially based), I see that the tv series is actually toned down quite a lot.
Somę Okinowans were brainwashed and some were forced to be human shields for Japanese soldiers. For the Japanese of the day, they considered themselves the master race who was destined to rule the barbarians of the rest of the world... that's your and me... (the Japanese were brainwashed). Consequently, they saw Okinowans as sub-human and disposable. I certainly don't think the woman with the baby, that the Japanese strapped explosives to, wanted her baby to die: the Japanese soldiers behind her shot the explosives to set them off. This is why Sledge developed such hatred for the Japanese enemy: for the horrors they perpetrated on those innocent civilian women and children right before his eyes. How couldn't you want to kill every last Japanese soldier after seeing that? But the compassion and humanity Sledge showed to the dying Okinowan woman in the hut demonstrated that after all those horrors, he was still Eugene: he didn't have his soul torn out, like his father worried about.
Yeah, and Americans were totally -not- racists back then, read how US propaganda and generals described Japanese people... or how immediately after Pearl Harbor they arrested every Japanese civilian in the US, women, children, everyone, and sent them to concentration camps.
The Japanese like any defending country became more fanatical the closer the U.S. got to their homeland.
Oh man...your take on them hating everything is so far off...
Very shallow take.
Generation Kill next.
Biss....I'm not one of those ppl...unless it's super heavy and depressing, I can pretty much watch anything...which has come from watching some pretty horrific shit...😮
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Bravo.
Nice reaction and opinions.
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She was forced to do that
Don’t worry, episode 10 is a nice ending
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The Japanese were incredibly brutal soldiers. They treated almost everyone they came across as second class citizens, especially the Okinawans that inhabited the island.
The woman with her child didn’t want to strap a bomb to herself to kill Americans. She was forced to by the Japanese. The baby was a trick to get a bunch of Americans to take the baby in and then they would’ve detonated the explosive.
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@@BissFlix thank you so much 😊
ep 10 is my favorite. ups and downs. hope you will have enjoyed the series. semper fi
`You have to realise that how you fight for your own country they are fighting for their country, so in their story you are the villain`. Great summary quote for this episode, keep up the good work
That being said the Japanese army was trained in a level of brutality that wasn't practiced in most western armies. It was standardized. Nazis probably had the worse ideology but there was general civiliity between prisoners on the western front.
At the individual level I'm sure there were a lot of good japanese soldiers, but I don't think it's a complete moral equivalence.
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Greetings, I am a fan of your channel, could you react to the movie King Arthur starring Clive Owen, the story is exciting about warriors as brave as the knights of Rome who lived and died with honor and greatness
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War is the worst thing oone person can do to another. I abhore it, but in this case it had to be done. The Japanese were set on making the whole of Asia their colonial empire. All other peoples there were less than human to them. The atrocities that the Japaanese committed on these people were horrendous. They had to be stopped. The native people of Okinawa were expendable to the Japanese and were brainwashed into believing the Americans would kill them in the most horrendous ways, so many committed suicide. Others like that woman were forced to become weapons and walk in among the Americans and blow themselves up. This woman was allowed to take her child with her to get some soldier to set up and take it and then someone would set off her explosives. This battle went on form months and was extremely brutal as was the whole war in the Pacific. Not even in Europe was it this brutal. The Americans were on the line the entire time. There was no taking them off the line to relax. In this kind of situation your humanity disappears and as you seek to live day after day, your soul melts away. The lessons of these battles caused changes in the way troops are treated today and they are now removed from direct combat to at least rest and recoup. The Japanese soldier too at this point started to realize they could not win the war and for the first time many hundreds did choose to surrender rather that fight to their death. The Japanese soldiers had been on these islandss for years awaiting a possible attack with no chance of being reinforced and resuplied. Those on islands not attacked by Americans were left to starve to death since there was no way off the islands and once the supplies were gone it was imposssible to feed thousands of them. It has been estimated that about a million Japanese soldiers died this way. This whole war was just a hell on earth for all and all the result of philosophies built on racial superiority and undying loyalty to the state. Sadly it seems that America might just be getting ready to take her turn at this political system with the idea that there is only one way to believe and think and religion that serves one individual who now speaks for all.
It is a magnificent series Miss Bisscute and a great reaction, you are rigth war Is Ugly and full of hate. To complete your experience and knowledge of the Second World War in the Pacific, I suggest you react to the films directed by Clint Eastwood: Flags of our Fathers (2006) and Letters from Iwo Jima (2006) as well as the film starring Nicholas Cage. Windtalkers (2002).
The Japanese army at the time didn't consider local Okinawans as true "Japanese" and often used them as human shields, convinced them to commit suicide (as an alternative to surrendering), or outright killed them. Approx 150,000 civilian died over the 3 month battle (30% of the island's native population).
I went to a battlefield tour on the island and it's very sobering, especially the Peace Prayer Park at the southern part of the island. That is where the Japanese made their last stand, and thousands jumped off the cliffs to their deaths, including many civilians who were convinced it was a better alternative than what the Americans would do to them. The area is now a museum/memorial dedicated to peace.
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