i like boxbox a lot and would usually defend him / agree with him about his complaints, especially when they are just about TFT. but i do know (from what i see as a viewer) that when he is frustrated, he reacts more sensitively to what his chat says to him, and he can come across as condescending when he is telling a chatter they are wrong in that annoyed voice. but based on what this video shows, he really let his emotions get the best of him this time, and i think it clearly clouded his judgement on whether the chatter was really being aggressive. in any other workplace, not being able to control your feelings like this is only going to get you fired. i do feel bad saying that because it’s obvious from some of the talks he has had on stream that he feels burnt out but wants to try not to act upset or complain so much. but to call a chatter an asshole just because they disagreed with you and did not drop it when you said they are wrong??? that is just madness. yes it is chats job to be respectful and follow the chat rules, but not taking your opinion as law doesn’t make them an asshole.
Some backseaters dont realize that TFT is a game of variance. U cant apply all the basic rules in every single game u play, sometimes u have to play different according to your situations. And thats what differs an average player to a top player
funnily enough, he goes 6th avg for most of the time, so you can't really say that he's not doing anything wrong. Not only does he complain about the state of the game a lot no matter the set, he is also passively aggressive and would subtly talk you down. I'm not sure why he's posting this content in youtube when he himself already knows that his toxicity is unbearable to watch, but either it's the editors' choice, or he barely produces games with passable content.
@@scurrx but pointing out that he's being unnecessarily condescending and acting as if he's not an "elitist" when he's doing the opposite with every chance he gets is wrong? He can literally read the most emotionless text ever and claim that he's being attacked by the person who wrote it. Yes, some people can be stupid sometimes, but you can't tell me that he's not doing anything wrong when he himself admits it. And to add on to that, his playstyle doesn't go in line with the comps he likes to force.
For sure! But I think boxbox shouldn't have put this all "backsitting issue" into his YT content. It kinda makes him look like a clown for trying to seriously argue against random people in chat. Idk. I've never watched his live on twitch. Banning a guy for saying something like that? Sheesh 😂
Although true, I actually wouldn't call what happened in the video variance. Stabilizing trumping econ in certain stages is a basic rule in TFT. It's actually one of the most basic rules that many players don't understand. This was just an example of a backseater not understanding the basic rules of TFT.
What an absolute overreaction to that chatter's comments, he wasn't agressive at all. It really came across as BoxBox taking his frustration out on him after losing. Definitely lost the respect of quite a few people with how he handled that.
Yea, that chatter he banned wasn’t even being rude, and he goes off talking about him being aggressive and annoying. His streams have been rapidly going downhill lately in my opinion. Dude needs an ego check
I just started playing this set so I’m only platinum, I understand that I’m not great and I appreciate BoxBox because he explains why rolling down is important and it’s something that I find to be my biggest weakness
"Nothing on this item indicates that it scales" *glances at the grey text that reads 'Damage increases based on stage'* It might be missing the 180/240/300/360/420 notation but its definitely not 'nothing' indicating that. Not to say I blame BoxBox for missing that on a new item, lots of things to think about while a game is going on and chat is active
He usually skims the first couple lines of a tooltip, but doesn't read past that unless he stops, says "alright, what's this actually say" and reads it all aloud to chat, which can take a few months to get to doing. 😅
That random tangent about the 'incredibly aggressive' comment was just disappointing. Feels like Albert is just becoming more and more bitter and passive-aggressive? I've been noticing this after watching him for a few years.
Wait what did that guy do that was "aggressive"?! You timed him out for saying "you don't need to roll to 0". That's "incredibly aggressive" to you? Am I missing something?
What are you guys saying? Like yeah it wasn’t particularly aggressive but imagine you’re at the end of your work shift and for 8 hours straight people have been telling you how to do your job, also boxbox did give him an answer of why and then just timed him out it wasn’t a ban.
@@carlosrubio3380problem is, he doesn't say 'no backseating', he just tries to say that he doesn't mind questions/suggestions if they're polite. Issue is, everyone's definition of polite, the tone of their message, etc varies person to person.
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I'm a really big fan of BoxBox (I follow him since he got high elo just playing Riven with a controller), but this time I agree with the chatter. He gets too salty with people just giving their opinion or doing an inoffensive backsitting, if you're going to ignore them there's a lot of ways to react, it's bad to get angry and ban them just for that. It's almost like a dictator behaviour: I don't like your opinion, it can make me look like I'm wrong, so I'm shutting you down. Still a fan but this is really his worst issue.
You still can get offered a champion that you technically had 3 star with. but the way tft champion shop works is the champion u had 3 starred is the rest of the count of that champ is still going or shuffling around all the players shops, thats why many must've thought that u can't get that champ anymore but in the real scenario, you getting that many champs casually reduces the number of that champ going around all the players which you nearly and could never come across at again . For example, you 3 starred an ashe in which case the ashe count is only 10 as well as all the 4 costs. 10-9 is 1, and that 1 ashe is still going around of all the players shop, but the chances of it appearing on anyone's shop (even yours) is very very slim just because it is contending over 200+ champs on that 6 shops slots.
@@Kzaitoo Nah nah, I mean thanks for that explanation nonetheless but I know how math and thinning out the pool works. I'm just 99% sure I heard from some streamer (probably even boxbox) that once you 3* game wouldn't let You have any more copies of it. Even with 3* kogmaw you shouldnt get him offered (which kinda makes sense if you think about it) :P
@@AzanexPL sometimes it just bugged out of nowhere. I'm pretty sure if u 3 star a unit it locks the unit out from the shop. But maybe because the malphite is not 3 starred the round before its counted as not being a 3 star that round and it appeared again in the shop.
Personal opinion: If you think the guy was being aggressive in what he said you maybe don't know what aggressive is. Sure he wasnt saying it in the nicest way possible like he claimed to have done but in no way was he being aggressive. Timing someone out so fast could be seen as aggressive behauvior by yourself aswell. Feel free to comment guys but dont expect a discussion about this. It's just my opinion you guys can have your own and thats fine.
Agreed. Mind boggling how he labeled what that guy said as "incredibly aggressive". I think he was probably just frustrated he got unlucky that game and took it out a chatter. Ideally he recognizes his mistake and admits it instead of justifying it like he did.
nah, you're right. He probably was upset after the loss and took out his frustration on the guy, very childish behavior imo but we area humans at the end of the day so it happens i guess
@@bitorange5549 can you explain to me why he was justifying and that was the wrong play, and what is your proposal for the solution? Just asking because it seems like you assumed Boxbox is in the wrong and the guy is right. If you flip the perspective for example, Boxbox is right and that guy is wrong, he is an annoying chatter who insisted on the wrong point eventhough Boxbox already explained why that was bad, and the video only show just 2 chat he sent, he probably was backseating the entire time and Boxbox couldn't see it because he was rolling, and I would say that is very aggressive.
@@coleman4178 oh you are misunderstanding me then. Doesn't matter who is right or wrong (if you must know, I would probably agree with BoxBox but I'm no TFT expert). This isn't a matter of the game though. It's a matter of being respectful. Unless there is context we are missing, the chatter had absolutely no disrespect to boxbox. Boxbox can just say "you are wrong, I had to roll to 0 because of x, y, and z" and leave it there. Instead, boxbox does that but then calls him an "asshole" and "incredibly aggressive" and supports his timeout/ban. Deep down I hope we are missing context cause I'd like to root for him but this is just a really bad look.
In all honesty, SAYING THIS AS A THOUGHT, its not so much about admitting you are wrong, because sometimes you can just lock your head and THINK you are 100% right but maybe you are not. Its not that you admit you are wrong or evaluate if you are wrong if someone else tells you you are, you evaluate or admit you are wrong when YOU yourself come to the conclusion, so its not like you really listen to chat to evaluate your decisions, you jaut highlight what they just corroborate about your thoughts. The most obvious way you feel this is when you get coached by someone you think is better than you, there you can really feel the difference when you truly evaluate what other people say.
In my opnion he was being more agressive than the people in chat. When we are reading a coment online we don't actually know how the people are trying to say the message, like, their intencions, voice tone, etc... But when we can hear BoxBox, we can feel that he was a bit mad. And yeah, he got a bad day like he said before, but that's not an excuse to what he did on the poor viewer. What I felt watching the video was that he took out the frustration on that guy. Just like @theceejey i dont expect a discussion upon this coment, just my opinion
I get your point, it seems wrong. Yet I think the fewest of us can imagine how hard it can be to stay calm if you are confronted with people watching and commenting your gameplay like constantly all day during streaming. And even then, maybe BoxBox could take a break here and then to avoid that kind of frustration
I mean boxbox is known for losing to being a gambling addict and rolling when he is not supposed to, but he is totally right about the roll down to 0 thing 😅
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i like boxbox a lot and would usually defend him / agree with him about his complaints, especially when they are just about TFT. but i do know (from what i see as a viewer) that when he is frustrated, he reacts more sensitively to what his chat says to him, and he can come across as condescending when he is telling a chatter they are wrong in that annoyed voice.
but based on what this video shows, he really let his emotions get the best of him this time, and i think it clearly clouded his judgement on whether the chatter was really being aggressive. in any other workplace, not being able to control your feelings like this is only going to get you fired. i do feel bad saying that because it’s obvious from some of the talks he has had on stream that he feels burnt out but wants to try not to act upset or complain so much.
but to call a chatter an asshole just because they disagreed with you and did not drop it when you said they are wrong??? that is just madness. yes it is chats job to be respectful and follow the chat rules, but not taking your opinion as law doesn’t make them an asshole.
Ngl agree
Some backseaters dont realize that TFT is a game of variance. U cant apply all the basic rules in every single game u play, sometimes u have to play different according to your situations.
And thats what differs an average player to a top player
funnily enough, he goes 6th avg for most of the time, so you can't really say that he's not doing anything wrong. Not only does he complain about the state of the game a lot no matter the set, he is also passively aggressive and would subtly talk you down. I'm not sure why he's posting this content in youtube when he himself already knows that his toxicity is unbearable to watch, but either it's the editors' choice, or he barely produces games with passable content.
@@ladyloo5341 telling people they are stupid when they are acting stupid is toxic now?
gg
@@scurrx but pointing out that he's being unnecessarily condescending and acting as if he's not an "elitist" when he's doing the opposite with every chance he gets is wrong? He can literally read the most emotionless text ever and claim that he's being attacked by the person who wrote it.
Yes, some people can be stupid sometimes, but you can't tell me that he's not doing anything wrong when he himself admits it. And to add on to that, his playstyle doesn't go in line with the comps he likes to force.
For sure! But I think boxbox shouldn't have put this all "backsitting issue" into his YT content. It kinda makes him look like a clown for trying to seriously argue against random people in chat. Idk. I've never watched his live on twitch. Banning a guy for saying something like that? Sheesh 😂
Although true, I actually wouldn't call what happened in the video variance. Stabilizing trumping econ in certain stages is a basic rule in TFT. It's actually one of the most basic rules that many players don't understand. This was just an example of a backseater not understanding the basic rules of TFT.
What an absolute overreaction to that chatter's comments, he wasn't agressive at all. It really came across as BoxBox taking his frustration out on him after losing. Definitely lost the respect of quite a few people with how he handled that.
Ngl, that one chatter didnt come out as an asshole to me (none of his comments). It really seemed blown out of proportion.
Happy to see that most the comment section is thinking what I was about the “aggressive” viewer lol
You really timed that guy out FOR THAT!?
OH nah son. Thiis aint it lol.
Yea, that chatter he banned wasn’t even being rude, and he goes off talking about him being aggressive and annoying. His streams have been rapidly going downhill lately in my opinion. Dude needs an ego check
@@spencerl4913it’s ironic because the guy who got timed out had a very contempt tone himself lol
seeing everyone cook this guy in his own comments is kinda funny ngl
box box try not to complain all game challenge!
I just started playing this set so I’m only platinum, I understand that I’m not great and I appreciate BoxBox because he explains why rolling down is important and it’s something that I find to be my biggest weakness
He’s really good to learn from, I’ve learned everything from him. Mortdog is also good to watch cos he plays very different to boxbox.
@@Eszkay those are my 2 go to’s it gives a great variety of play styles
Stop adding the complaining at the start of the video, instead show some fun moments
-avid yt watcher
I was like: "What's OMANA?" for a sec
"Nothing on this item indicates that it scales"
*glances at the grey text that reads 'Damage increases based on stage'*
It might be missing the 180/240/300/360/420 notation but its definitely not 'nothing' indicating that. Not to say I blame BoxBox for missing that on a new item, lots of things to think about while a game is going on and chat is active
He usually skims the first couple lines of a tooltip, but doesn't read past that unless he stops, says "alright, what's this actually say" and reads it all aloud to chat, which can take a few months to get to doing. 😅
That random tangent about the 'incredibly aggressive' comment was just disappointing. Feels like Albert is just becoming more and more bitter and passive-aggressive? I've been noticing this after watching him for a few years.
Wait what did that guy do that was "aggressive"?! You timed him out for saying "you don't need to roll to 0". That's "incredibly aggressive" to you? Am I missing something?
idk this is probably why mr. streamer clown has fallen off lol
You're not lol, definitely overstepped for no good reason. Had to stir up some drama for content x.x
What are you guys saying? Like yeah it wasn’t particularly aggressive but imagine you’re at the end of your work shift and for 8 hours straight people have been telling you how to do your job, also boxbox did give him an answer of why and then just timed him out it wasn’t a ban.
@@carlosrubio3380problem is, he doesn't say 'no backseating', he just tries to say that he doesn't mind questions/suggestions if they're polite. Issue is, everyone's definition of polite, the tone of their message, etc varies person to person.
@@carlosrubio3380 they banned him after, i was in the chat lol
26:16 When I thought I was used to boxbox’s humor… 🤯🥴
it's a normal expression
Your video editing is top notch. The little animations, using chats quotes, the flash back sequences... All amazing. I am seeing the new asmongold being born.
I aggressively backseat gamed years ago, still banned. I apologize Papa. Won't happen again
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How did that malphite show up in your shop on 3-2 after you already 3* malph
it wasn't combining yet so it was 3 2* malph instead of 3* malph
@@rafisyw3082 weird. Looks like it combined. Boxbox had to pick his augments, then the shop refreshed. But that's the only reasonable explanation
@@Psyduc18352 the shop probably refreshes first, and after that the unit combines.
I'm a really big fan of BoxBox (I follow him since he got high elo just playing Riven with a controller), but this time I agree with the chatter. He gets too salty with people just giving their opinion or doing an inoffensive backsitting, if you're going to ignore them there's a lot of ways to react, it's bad to get angry and ban them just for that. It's almost like a dictator behaviour: I don't like your opinion, it can make me look like I'm wrong, so I'm shutting you down.
Still a fan but this is really his worst issue.
9:39
I thought you can't get offered a champion that you had already 3*?
Or did you technically get it before completing 3* unit?
You still can get offered a champion that you technically had 3 star with. but the way tft champion shop works is the champion u had 3 starred is the rest of the count of that champ is still going or shuffling around all the players shops, thats why many must've thought that u can't get that champ anymore but in the real scenario, you getting that many champs casually reduces the number of that champ going around all the players which you nearly and could never come across at again . For example, you 3 starred an ashe in which case the ashe count is only 10 as well as all the 4 costs. 10-9 is 1, and that 1 ashe is still going around of all the players shop, but the chances of it appearing on anyone's shop (even yours) is very very slim just because it is contending over 200+ champs on that 6 shops slots.
@@Kzaitoo Nah nah, I mean thanks for that explanation nonetheless but I know how math and thinning out the pool works. I'm just 99% sure I heard from some streamer (probably even boxbox) that once you 3* game wouldn't let You have any more copies of it. Even with 3* kogmaw you shouldnt get him offered (which kinda makes sense if you think about it) :P
@@AzanexPL sometimes it just bugged out of nowhere. I'm pretty sure if u 3 star a unit it locks the unit out from the shop. But maybe because the malphite is not 3 starred the round before its counted as not being a 3 star that round and it appeared again in the shop.
you can make back the money, you can't regen HP.
Personal opinion:
If you think the guy was being aggressive in what he said you maybe don't know what aggressive is. Sure he wasnt saying it in the nicest way possible like he claimed to have done but in no way was he being aggressive. Timing someone out so fast could be seen as aggressive behauvior by yourself aswell.
Feel free to comment guys but dont expect a discussion about this. It's just my opinion you guys can have your own and thats fine.
Agreed. Mind boggling how he labeled what that guy said as "incredibly aggressive". I think he was probably just frustrated he got unlucky that game and took it out a chatter. Ideally he recognizes his mistake and admits it instead of justifying it like he did.
nah, you're right. He probably was upset after the loss and took out his frustration on the guy, very childish behavior imo but we area humans at the end of the day so it happens i guess
@@bitorange5549 can you explain to me why he was justifying and that was the wrong play, and what is your proposal for the solution? Just asking because it seems like you assumed Boxbox is in the wrong and the guy is right. If you flip the perspective for example, Boxbox is right and that guy is wrong, he is an annoying chatter who insisted on the wrong point eventhough Boxbox already explained why that was bad, and the video only show just 2 chat he sent, he probably was backseating the entire time and Boxbox couldn't see it because he was rolling, and I would say that is very aggressive.
you're right dude i think he was in his feels a little bit and took it out on a viewer lol
@@coleman4178 oh you are misunderstanding me then. Doesn't matter who is right or wrong (if you must know, I would probably agree with BoxBox but I'm no TFT expert). This isn't a matter of the game though. It's a matter of being respectful. Unless there is context we are missing, the chatter had absolutely no disrespect to boxbox. Boxbox can just say "you are wrong, I had to roll to 0 because of x, y, and z" and leave it there. Instead, boxbox does that but then calls him an "asshole" and "incredibly aggressive" and supports his timeout/ban. Deep down I hope we are missing context cause I'd like to root for him but this is just a really bad look.
In all honesty, SAYING THIS AS A THOUGHT, its not so much about admitting you are wrong, because sometimes you can just lock your head and THINK you are 100% right but maybe you are not. Its not that you admit you are wrong or evaluate if you are wrong if someone else tells you you are, you evaluate or admit you are wrong when YOU yourself come to the conclusion, so its not like you really listen to chat to evaluate your decisions, you jaut highlight what they just corroborate about your thoughts. The most obvious way you feel this is when you get coached by someone you think is better than you, there you can really feel the difference when you truly evaluate what other people say.
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In my opnion he was being more agressive than the people in chat. When we are reading a coment online we don't actually know how the people are trying to say the message, like, their intencions, voice tone, etc... But when we can hear BoxBox, we can feel that he was a bit mad. And yeah, he got a bad day like he said before, but that's not an excuse to what he did on the poor viewer. What I felt watching the video was that he took out the frustration on that guy.
Just like @theceejey i dont expect a discussion upon this coment, just my opinion
Still not an excuse to be an asshole.
Yeah box was way over reacting to “you don’t have to go to 0 xd”
I get your point, it seems wrong.
Yet I think the fewest of us can imagine how hard it can be to stay calm if you are confronted with people watching and commenting your gameplay like constantly all day during streaming.
And even then, maybe BoxBox could take a break here and then to avoid that kind of frustration
another boxbox 🤡🤡🤡🤡 moment
The bots are real bad today
why the kog auto three times after the first cast
i’ve also noticed this with teemo, seems to almost always be that after their first cast they don’t gain mana from first auto
this dude yaps a lot
İf you dont play something else than kogmaw i will touch you, i am serious.
I mean boxbox is known for losing to being a gambling addict and rolling when he is not supposed to, but he is totally right about the roll down to 0 thing 😅
Leveling to next level with 5 gold to roll is another thing. The chatter is not crazy
@@Cali_wow_HC I totally missed that detail... welp Mr box loves to talk in absolutes when he is tilted so I guess all theres left to say is o7 chatter
why even post this thinking people would side with you for banning that guy? what is wrong with you albert?
Letting those keyboard warriors get to ya.
4thh!!
1st :D
theses chatter seem to forgot that this is boxbox stream not theirs XD
And streamers sometimes forget that they chose to have an audience. If you don't want a crowd to watch and judge you play, don't stream?
that why he ban the guy :)
So soft