Range Wrecks - Kirkudbright - The Search for Rare Tanks

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • Today’s video is going to look at my recent trip up top Kirkcudbright training area and the many tanks found on the range. Over a year of planning was needed to gain full access and we set out to find the lost tortoise tank as well as many other rare and unique vehicles that can be found on the ranges.
    This video is for those who just like old rusty wrecks, or maybe model makers who want to get some colour samples or diorama ideas.
    A big thanks to the MOD and the Kirkcudbright training area for the opportunity to have a look at these rare vehicles and to Peter Breakspear for getting this all organised!
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  • @martinrose2833
    @martinrose2833 2 года назад +24

    Most hated inhabitants in Scotland ? Got to be the midges

  • @davidhenry5112
    @davidhenry5112 9 месяцев назад

    I remember as a boy in the 1960's we used to go up to the ranges on the weekend and clamber all over those old tanks. Immense fun.The tanks were in much better condition back then.

  • @gorbalsboy
    @gorbalsboy 2 года назад +5

    Immediate cessation of sunshine,fantastic especially when combined with a military training area

    • @ronhall9394
      @ronhall9394 2 года назад +2

      If it aint raining - it aint training.
      I've done Kirkudbright with MLRS, however Otterburn/Redesdale was my main haunt (5.5's, L118, FH70)
      I miss the Ranges (yeah a bit sick I know) but once you become a 'normal' person you don't get the exposure (pun intended) to the elements that you get up there in the Lands of the Red Flag.

  • @pierz882
    @pierz882 2 года назад +16

    This was a really entertaining watch, looking forward to further episodes.

  • @Javaritto
    @Javaritto 2 года назад +36

    "It does mean using the world's most expensive and incompetent rail network to get there"
    Huh, I didn't know Amtrak had expanded to the UK.

    • @terik3312
      @terik3312 2 года назад +4

      Depends how many miles can you do for 200 quid in the US

    • @Javaritto
      @Javaritto 2 года назад +6

      @@terik3312 None, they wouldn't take quid. But joking aside, I took a look at train prices and the UK rail lines run about twice as expensive as Amtrak by mileage, which is shocking considering how expensive (and slow) Amtrak is compared to other means of transit in the US.

    • @m26a1pershing7
      @m26a1pershing7 2 года назад +1

      Hey at least Amtrak is servicing somebody

    • @armouredarchives8867
      @armouredarchives8867  2 года назад +6

      for the same price as this ticket i coudl cross the US or get a cheap flight to NY - we have horrficaly overpriced trains and they are often on strike as the drivers feel 80k a year is not enough

    • @m26a1pershing7
      @m26a1pershing7 2 года назад +1

      I live in Chicago, the literal railway capital of this country, and our Amtrak service is really only theoretical, since they basically sold off whatever they could to sustain their precious costal services. I hate to be rude, but maybe be grateful you can take the train at all.
      Also whats with ScotRail using DMUs on fully electrified lines, what kind of maniac invests in electrification only halfway?

  • @markcherriman6136
    @markcherriman6136 2 года назад

    Your narrative is exceptional . MORE PLEASE .

  • @shitheadmachin
    @shitheadmachin 2 года назад +2

    Oh damn I thought you was going to tell us about the 3 sisters! Can't wait for part 2

  • @neilmason1394
    @neilmason1394 2 года назад

    I was a trials officer there in the mid 80s, great days and I am returning for a visit next month

  • @ddegn
    @ddegn 2 года назад +3

    Those old tanks have a strange surreal beauty. I loved the video. Thank you.

  • @anselmdanker9519
    @anselmdanker9519 2 года назад +1

    Thanks heard about this place.every thing looks rather sad . Look forward to the next presentation.

  • @stevenbreach2561
    @stevenbreach2561 2 года назад +2

    Excellent presentation ,as ever.Toodle pip!

  • @benwilson6145
    @benwilson6145 2 года назад +1

    There used to be a Sherman hull on the Dreghorn Range in the Pentlands south of Edinburgh, that was 30 years ago.

  • @georgestemple3310
    @georgestemple3310 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video

  • @georgemcintyre4095
    @georgemcintyre4095 2 года назад +2

    Remember getting the job of photographing the scrap tanks for archive purposes.

  • @GARDENER42
    @GARDENER42 2 года назад +6

    You met the midges then? 😁

    • @armouredarchives8867
      @armouredarchives8867  2 года назад +3

      many of em :)

    • @andreww2098
      @andreww2098 2 года назад +1

      @@armouredarchives8867 To quote Sandi Toksvig "More Flying objects have landed on me than the Ark Royal when camping in Scotland!"

  • @CthulhuInc
    @CthulhuInc 2 года назад +3

    things i automatically do when i see a new vid from this channel: hit LIKE, then hit FULL SCREEN 😊

  • @derekp2674
    @derekp2674 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for sharing this. I visited the site twice in the early days of the railgun project but never got the chance to go exploring the rest of the ranges.

  • @indigohammer5732
    @indigohammer5732 Год назад

    I'm surprised that the main armament was left in situ in some cases. Thank you for sharing your travels.

  • @adrianrutterford762
    @adrianrutterford762 2 года назад +1

    Wonderful stuff.
    Looking forward to the next video.

  • @majorbloodnok6659
    @majorbloodnok6659 2 года назад +1

    Thank you, very interesting, more please

  • @raywest3834
    @raywest3834 2 года назад +5

    Dorothy L. Sayers' period who-dun-it "Five Red Herrings" was set in Kirkcudbright, and the village and surrounding country remains largely as described in the book, making it a great place to explore for fans of Lord Peter Wimsey.

    • @CrusaderSports250
      @CrusaderSports250 7 месяцев назад

      Don't forget the Wickerman as the filming bounced between Plockton and Kirkcudbright (ker koo bree), they would turn a corner and be 150 miles away, such is the magic of film😊!.

  • @chromiumphotography5138
    @chromiumphotography5138 2 года назад +3

    This corrosion ... tanks and the Sisters of Mercy. Who could ask for more?

    • @thejacal2704
      @thejacal2704 2 года назад +2

      Hey now, hey now now now.....

    • @chromiumphotography5138
      @chromiumphotography5138 2 года назад +1

      @@thejacal2704 The question now has to be is Ed a secret member of the Sisters?

    • @thejacal2704
      @thejacal2704 2 года назад

      @@chromiumphotography5138
      He's really Patricia Morrison.

  • @michaelflude9334
    @michaelflude9334 2 месяца назад

    I served there 2 years 1970s c range . Kings bks townhead kirkcudbright 2 RTR

  • @CrusaderSports250
    @CrusaderSports250 7 месяцев назад

    I live not far from the range, but unfortunately wandering over there is not favourably looked on, even more so these days, so have never seen the tanks, as you stated it took you a year, it's great having something like these on my doorstep, but sucks that we can't view them, will try to find the part two, hopefully you did😊.

    • @tracycannon558
      @tracycannon558 5 месяцев назад

      Was just going to say where can I take my ww2 daft 8 year old to see these. I'm in Newton stewart so not far. But u guess getting onto the range is a no no

  • @chrispig7748
    @chrispig7748 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for that, love to see these old tanks

  • @ashleybevis9769
    @ashleybevis9769 2 года назад +1

    I used to live in a place called bordon in Hampshire they had a lot of tanks and lorrys on a big training ground where the reme used to be based and used to do recovery’s for training, as kids we used to climb all over these things hidden in the woods, I don’t no if the stuff is still there, but I thought I’d mention it in case u was interested,might be still some old relics.

    • @brianaberdeen5069
      @brianaberdeen5069 2 года назад

      All the vehicles were moved to lynham

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 2 года назад

      Might be some forgotten bits snd bobs still there though, as it wouldn't be the first time a Tank was lost in the undergrowth ;-)

  • @ashleysmith3106
    @ashleysmith3106 2 года назад

    "The Five Red Herrings" territory !

  • @michaelguerin56
    @michaelguerin56 2 года назад

    Thank you. Good pics and information on shell impacts.

  • @ianmaw66
    @ianmaw66 2 года назад +1

    Your photos would make a great book. Would you consider publishing such a book ? I would order a copy if you did.

    • @peterbreakspear1890
      @peterbreakspear1890 2 года назад +2

      Chieftain Down Range, British Armour Down Range and soon to be released Chieftain Down range II. All from Trackpad Publishing. 🙂

  • @matthewrowe9903
    @matthewrowe9903 2 года назад +2

    fantastic vid love the history of Hard targets have a sub

  • @simonallen6427
    @simonallen6427 2 года назад +1

    More please!

  • @cryohellinc
    @cryohellinc 2 года назад +2

    Shame that it's just rusting away. Great video

  • @WOTArtyNoobs
    @WOTArtyNoobs 2 года назад +2

    If I won the lottery, I would definitely go on the hunt for the elusive E 100. It might not be in the yard, but there are bound to be a few wrecks underneath the sand. Sadly the salt water may have corroded them.

  • @jamesburt3272
    @jamesburt3272 2 года назад

    Excellent!

  • @gitfoad8032
    @gitfoad8032 2 года назад

    Ahhh, reminds me of the good old days swanning 'round Catterick ranges, collecting LAW's that had missed. *Carl Gustav's were all practice, but the LAW's were live.

  • @Simon_Nonymous
    @Simon_Nonymous 2 года назад

    Very fascinating - and a part of the world we'd love to move to and live if we could 🙂

  • @lokischildren8714
    @lokischildren8714 2 года назад

    Ooo I know that military range well

  • @RobertEHunt-dv9sq
    @RobertEHunt-dv9sq 2 года назад +1

    Let’s get the Comet out of the bushes and into restoration. Who’s ready?

  • @guidor.4161
    @guidor.4161 2 года назад

    Very nice, more please...

  • @deancorlett7288
    @deancorlett7288 2 года назад

    Awesome cheers bud

  • @HJDore
    @HJDore 2 года назад +1

    Peter breakspear is a great author and the tortoise that resides on this range, as well as Omani MBT’s and post war civilian owned AFV’s are covered in his well written and well laid out paperback book named Tanks.
    Any news on the video on vicker’s MBT-95 designs? Looking forward to it.

  • @simonwood5147
    @simonwood5147 2 года назад +2

    There is only one thing less welcome in Scotland than the midges and that's an English man! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 you were lucky to get out alive!! The things that you do in the pursuit of Tank History are an inspiration to all "Mankind"......

  • @Itsroosandwich
    @Itsroosandwich 5 месяцев назад +1

    Im not sure if it was true or my parents telling me tales. On their range there was a supposed mk5 tank. Not sure if it is real but if there was it would be amazing to find it again Im still on the hunt for it today. Ive also found i think the last nimrod plane near where my profile picture was taken.

  • @Rzymek85
    @Rzymek85 2 года назад

    awesome, thanks :)

  •  2 года назад

    Interesting Video 👍

  • @yereverluvinuncleber
    @yereverluvinuncleber 2 года назад +2

    But which one did you bring home?

  • @womble321
    @womble321 2 года назад +3

    They rebuild Spitfires and Hurricanes from a lot less

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 2 года назад

      Stukas' too.
      (one was recovered some years ago *from the bottom of the north sea* )

    • @CrusaderSports250
      @CrusaderSports250 7 месяцев назад

      They do weigh a little less though.

  • @davesherry5384
    @davesherry5384 2 года назад

    Oi! Mate! Commonwealth Tank crews are "Tankies" not the word that rhymes the Anchor. Jeex, mate. Loved the video though.

  • @chriswerb7482
    @chriswerb7482 2 года назад

    Congratulations on another wonderful video! Are you sure about the Cent being a Mk 5 as I think that might be a bit too recent for a "Z" number.

  • @JohnHughesChampigny
    @JohnHughesChampigny 2 года назад +1

    The idea of describing Kircudbright as "remote"...

    • @armouredarchives8867
      @armouredarchives8867  2 года назад

      Remote by english standards :P

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 2 года назад

      Remote by any standards XD
      Plenty of Middle of Nowhere places' down south too ~_^ .
      (and elsewhere... getting repeatedly lost in Wales in 2009 was a fun experiance, as was the random ice cream vans)

  • @jellin3607
    @jellin3607 7 месяцев назад +1

    Could the average Scottish resident go and see them or no? If so where do i even look?

  • @colbeausabre8842
    @colbeausabre8842 2 года назад +2

    You;ve obvious never tried to ride Amtrak

    • @terik3312
      @terik3312 2 года назад +1

      Per mile amtrack is cheaper than British rail.

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 2 года назад +1

      Cheaper in part due to less trains running on less track... as the US has been mostly Car & Air reliant, since the '60's.
      Most US rail lines are for Freight, while most UK lines are for Passengers.
      (Rail Freight having never fully recovered from punitive government red tape on the railways making road haulage cheaper by default [since the interwar era])

  • @Salamandra40k
    @Salamandra40k 2 года назад

    These videos are great and there's so much good info, but man, I almost cant hear a word you're saying. Some work on the audio levels might be in dire need. Just to hear what I usually do on other videos, I need to turn my laptop up from 30 to 80. Otherwise, keep the videos up!

  • @fredericksaxton3991
    @fredericksaxton3991 2 года назад +2

    It is easier to say "Miles" instead of "kilometres".

  • @andrewnoonan4044
    @andrewnoonan4044 2 года назад

    What would be the chances of the Tortoise being recovered given its rarity?

    • @armouredarchives8867
      @armouredarchives8867  2 года назад

      extremely little and very very expensive

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 2 года назад +1

      Tis an interesting engineering thought experiment, as it can't have been easy to place her there in the first place.
      (though she probably rolled fairly well under tow when new)
      If anyone did though, they'd need to own some seriously heavy duty equipment.
      (such as a AVRE, a tank transporter, and probably a mobile crane too)
      Probably would be more viable to take off all dismountable bits in-situ, and either attempt craning the hull onto a trailer of some sort, or getting real oldschool and using rotated logs underneath with an AVRE pulling to roll her onto firmer ground.

    • @CrusaderSports250
      @CrusaderSports250 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@jimtaylor294would be a great project to be involved with 😊.

  • @thhseeking
    @thhseeking 2 года назад +2

    "incompetent rail network" :P They can't even spell "CANCELLED" :D

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 2 года назад

      Crash rate is satisfyingly low though :D .
      (none in recent years, if ignoring level crossings, which are hardly the train's fault)
      Now Indian Railways... cheap, but terrifying...

  • @TheGrowler55
    @TheGrowler55 2 года назад +1

    British Rail......total shit, just saying from Glasgow 😁🇬🇧

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 2 года назад +1

      Far worse exists at least... quite a few railways in Africa come to mind, to say nothing of India... which are cheap to ride, but fantastically dangerous.