Lost Mine found in the Superstition Mountains
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I found a cave here in flagstaff 8 years ago I’ve checked it periodically over the years my foot print is the only one I’ve ever seen in it once you get underground into the entrance it looks man made the walls are perfectly squared I can’t find anyone to check it out with me
I'll check it out with ya dude. I love cave exploration
@@clintonschearer3909 I really want to see what's down inside it shoots off towards the mountain
@@travislupum let's set a date and time. I'll roll with
@@travelingalaxies9282 I'm usually free on the weekends if your serious
Let's goo
Good of Larry to share this with the World while he was still able, otherwise no one would have known about this, or its history.
Could it be lost Dutchman mine with. Million in gold
That was a face on the side of that mntn
I said same thing my man
That’s awesome he lived long enough to make another trip since his first time in 58
Great video, I don't blame you for not going down into that hole. As Clint Eastwood once said: "A man's got to know his limitations."
You guys are animals! To make that trek at your ages, is outstanding.
Lol it's called off road all terrain quads , a good crew and it would not surprise me if a helicopter dropped them on the door step
very respectable for your age many respect sirs
You:
*“No one should try to come up here.”*
Me:
*“Sounds good, I’m on my way.”*
That is an open invitation !!!!
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Heck, I'm not in great shape and I'D want to go up there!
"challenge accepted."
@Still Awake nz apparently there are laws about what you can use for prospecting in the sups.
I remember hiking around those mountains with my grandfather when I was 11or 12 years old. That is some rough country..
Never tell anyone to NOT go somewhere, unless you want to guarantee that someone will!.
I hate leaving negative comments but, Man! I really was looking forward to them going down into that mine and recording their adventure! That whole video seems like it was working up to an exciting exploration of the mine! The build up in the beginning. The difficult climb through the brush and boulders! Then, there they were, standing at the entrance! They finally made it! They build up the story a bit more. They talk about the adventures in and near the mine. Tell us about the history of the area and mine; peaking our interests! And then! Just when we think it is time! They are finally going to go in! "well, thanks a lot folks! I hope you enjoyed our video. I'm never coming up here again". What? I mean, did you really invest all that time and effort making that video just to get to the entry and leave? With all due respect to the gentlemen and I did enjoy the story/narrative but, very disappointing video. I was so excited to get a look into a mine that probably hadn't been seen by human eyes in ages! It certainly looked like that's the way this video was going. What a complete let down. Oh, I still gave it a "thumbs up" out of principle but, I was expecting so much more out of this video. I'm bummed. Gonna go drink a beer...
He did go down that is all there was down there
I'm surprised that they held your attention that long. Typically, the words of the wise consist of much fewer words than that. Don't be so selfish with your time and boisterous with your opinion, unless of course you can do better
Didn't have a machete? I didn't see a jungle. Lol
@@millenials_best Why not? Any video of the Superstitions concerning a lost mine are pure BS anyway. Sensationalism. I enjoy watching them to see what kind of scam angle they are going to try this time.
I have a spot near Joshua Tree and 29 Palms to explore if you want an adventure. I found a deep pit, narrow vertical shaft, maybe an old air shaft in the copper mountains. Nothing down there but it is a fun exploration
What everyone seems to forget or just leave out, is the fact the lost Dutchman mine was still producing good gold and it was not fines either. It was chunky gold. So when and of that mine is ever found you would know it because you would still find really great chunky gold there. So if you have a mine in mind and it's not producing according to the stories. Then you have not found it. Logic dictates, your theories on the mine don't. Great find there and always amazing to be able to look back into the past to these old timers and pioneers of the day. True American heroes if you ask me.
THANKS guys especially Larry for showing us this. It's to bad that you weren't more prepared because after all that work to get there you don't go in and see what's going on. I know I wouldn't care how tired I was I would still be going inside. I wished that I lived closer. Now we will probably have to wait for some reality show
Absolutely beautiful!! Thank you gentlemen!! I love historical places like that absolutely amazing!!!
You said, "I'm advising people to NOT, NOT, NOT, to go up there." Honestly, because you protested so much, I want to go even more!
Lots of people die and go missing up there. Don't go alone, and bring something to protect yourself with.
yes me too but lots of bats down there but im there dude and we coming 25 deep lock and loaded bat hunting first then we geting the gold
I've been there and spent a total of months over 2 years . Several ore samples and seeing unmarked graves and whiskey bottles . There's probably more gold at a park in Chicago than the "stitions" .
@@QuantumPyrite_88.9 i believe that if there was any gold its gone with the wind if i ever make it out there cuz i want to see that area i will bring fools gold and hide it out there lol and was any of those whiskey bottles you found were old or from people today
Keith Wilson - Go there and enjoy the scenery and history of the place . Whiskey bottles and shell casings - Many were well over 100 years old ... and this was in the 1980s' . If you go in warm weather , watch out for prairie rattlesnakes and the occasional but rare western diamond back . I still have a scar on my right ankle from a prairie rattler . ATB
Man Larry is one tough fella. They sure don't make like that any more, broke the mold. Thank you for sharing, looks like a amazing place.
Larry is the best to take us there it was hard on him.
Great Video / Thanks to all of you !!!
Great factual history of part of the Superstition Mountains. Thanks for the effort to show it to us !
Unsolved Mysteries brought me here... I need to enter this mine and continue the search.
Im down bud
For some reason the footage of these two gentlemen talking looks straight out of a mid 90s made for TV documentary. If it wasn't for the 16:9 aspect ratio I would have believed this was recorded in the 90s.
I don't even think they were there, all green screen. Look at his glasses at the end a computer monitor reflection and the dude keeps interrupting the elder with the story to share. Fml
@@StevenHanover "a green screen"? You dont know how they work.... at all, do you??
@@anonymousher0 your mothers a hero
You can see on his sunglasses not only the computer monitor but parts of the room in which they filmed this. I could send a small radio controlled drone into the area, map it then send the drone into the mine.
@@cameronmccreary7697 don't let the forest service find it they will blow it shut.
The mine collapsed in 1873 during an earthquake. The Dutchman said he died with all the gold he had when the mine collapsed. He found one of the 8 active mines the Peralta's had when they tried to abandon the Superstitions when they learned that the Apache Indians were going to attack them. 6 mines were clustered and there were two that were outliers from the clustered mines. It is funny because during hiking season, probably 20 to 30 people walk by the 6 clustered mines an hour and don't even know it is there.
How could the Dutchman have said he died with all the gold he had when the mine collapsed, if he was dead already?
Thanks for sharing & preserving some of the old history and legends; they're worth much more than gold. I lived in the Superstitions many years ago and have fond memories of our little creek that came down from the hills forming a waterfall, swimming hole, waterfall, swimming hole...
OTOH, It would be fun to check the mine with a GPZ 7000 and a little dry-washer!
Thats a helluva trip just to hike up to... Good Job Guys! Larry's a real Trooper!
Thank you for your service. My son made CPO a couple years ago. Stationed in San Diego.
@@chado3000 Thats great! My son is a CPO HT and is based at Camp Pendleton over at the LCAC Division and heads all the welding authority.. "Land Craft Air Cushion" Hovercrafts!
Much ado about nothing
If you knew exactly what they are show , how these structures were formed , you would be shocked and probably never see this world the same .
HUGE AND GIGANTIC
What a beautiful world awaits within those mountains
Wouldn't it be funny if this actually was the spot where Waltz found his gold, after we were told "No, this isn't the LDM"...
I found that mine when I was a kid. My dad and I went camping and when I went exploring by myself I saw all that. I remember the ladder too.
Didn’t go in tho cus it looked really dangerous. Very cool to see again after all these years
Also I found another mine entrance not too far. It was really hidden and had partially covered with wood and seemed like water near the entrance of the floor. Didn’t go in because it just looked scary like a roof could just cave it.
I remember finding it by seeing some rusty railway track things all bent in weird ways.
Never told my dad about the mine entrances cus I didn’t think it was a big deal and no one told me about mines ppl were looking for. Really wonder if I stumbled on something
Exploring Abandoned Mines Dude would be all over this. You should consider inviting him to explore this for you. Would be great episode.
Or the crazy Jeff Williams, he could tell you more about the geology of this place.
I have probably the best clues to where the Lost Dutchman Mine is located (exactly) . I’m originally from Mesa, Arizona and have always been fascinated with the Superstition Mountains . Now that I’m older I moved to a different state to work and am planning a visit to find and reveal to everyone where that mine is at!
Angel , any news? Can we get in contact ??? You got any social media ?? Let me know thanks !
Bs
So about that...?
drove out that way when we lived out in Phoenix area , but didn't do much hiking , now wishing we had ... but got a different 4x4 now , and will be heading west again very soon... nice presentation guys , tyvm
The Superstitions eat 4x4s for lunch.
One day i am going to film the inside of those drifts for yall
come on dude
What a lame ass display of stupidity and ignorance how about show going down inside the mines when I was a kid that’s exactly what we used to do never knew it became such a big bullshit item of just showing the outside go inside you took us that far
@@nickramirez8557 stfu ashhat
Lets do it
@@nickramirez8557 That was pretty much it. Doesnt look like it extends much further than they showed.
Thanks Again For Sharing Your Life
Always!
That's a lot of work and it built a lot of excitement and then.....yep, it's a hole and it's there time to go. Wait what??!!
What’s in the hole?
I miss the desert, been over 19 yrs and i feel those mountains call me
I been through that area. Trust what they say. It is very dangerous and NEVER go alone.
Why is it dangerous? (Other than too much heat in Summer, easy to get lost, and the possibility of becoming lunch for a cougar?)
Hundreds of deaths, hundreds of beheadings and very real and weird sightings. RUclips "i wont go into these mountains alone superstition mountains" and watch both videos. This is the most dangerous and deadly mountain range in all of the U.S.
Something sinister is happening here (here as in i live half hour away)
I read a book about this mine-published in the early 1950s-author verified that Waltz found all the gold, nothing was left. It was a small deposit. Waltz got evrything.
B.S.!
I found the mine many years ago, then I moved it to a secret location. Took most of the day to carry it.
I've lived in Utah now about 30 years. Up in the Uinta's there used to be (may still be?) "Spanish Cross's" cut in to trees supposedly left by the Spanish to find their mines up there. But they enslaved the Indians mining the gold such that when the Spaniards left, the Indians guarded those mines ever afterwards. A couple of shepherds, its said, found some gold nuggets out near Tooele, Utah and came to Brigham Young with it and wanted to go mining. Brigham told them he knew where to get "hat fulls of gold" if the church needed it, and to go back to sheep herding. He was trying to get the people of the church to rely upon each other, not gold. Meanwhile, I read that Brigham had a man who was friendly with some of the Indians who'd let him retrieve gold from the mines from time to time. I used to work with a man, whose brother apparently had one of those Spanish mines out in Nevada some place. But he hated being there because he said it was haunted. Something about all those dead Indians or some such! Fact is, gold and silver mining in the West goes back even further than the Spanish many hundreds of years. But that's a whole other story. Thank you for the post. Very interesting to see and hear. As for those who sound disappointed y'all didnt go further in to the mine itself, we didnt miss much. Just a dark hole in the ground! Lol!
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Have you thought about using drones to find lost minds instead of going through all those rocks physically. I would try a drone and then maybe get down to it after I found it
Broken:
I knew where it was and my colleagues wanted to see it in person. A drone cannot get into to cave where the pit is.
No ropes, no climbing equipment, few cuts on the arms. “It’s so dangerous lol, sounds like a normal day when I was 9!
I would love to see inside the mine.
Thank you for sharing this video sure memories from a long time ago
I lived out in that desert for several years...it hold amazing secrets and early white guys who went there had to avoid Apaches.
That mine was cleaned out a long time ago....All these treasure hunters are funny to watch chasing ghost stories
Considering a lot of people go there and vanish mysteriously and many many hundreds more have died and the area produces weird sightings i wouldnt doubt the ghost stories
In 1968 I went to work for the Oklahoma City private investigator, Glenn Magill. Soon after I started working for Glenn he showed me a book that had just been published on his exploits, The Killer Mountains by Curt Gentry. He had me read the book and then talked about it extensively. Up until then I'd never heard of the Lost Dutchman gold mine. After being filled in on everything he knew, Glenn wanted my input. He said that even though he'd told Gentry that everything he said was true and he knew exactly where the mine was, he still wasn't sure. One of the first things I learned about the whole thing was that there were a lot of dangerous people looking for that mine. (I quickly determined that Magill was probably the most dangerous of them all.) Magill believed the mine was on Bluff Springs Mountain on the slope facing the Old Military Trail. He said that it would take him several more years to actually prove that because he had to save up the money to finance each trip. I quit working for Magill in '70 and in '72 moved to Phoenix. I didn't do so just to look for the mine myself (by then I'd become a floor-covering installer and had heard there was plenty of work in Phoenix) but in '74 decided to check it out myself. Magill had said that he told everyone who worked for him about his findings and that if he ever caught any of his former employees in those mountains, he would kill them. I took that seriously and went in when I was quite sure he wouldn't be there. I never thought the mine was on Bluff Springs Mountain - never actually came to any personal conclusion about its location - but wanted to check it out anyway. I went to the location where Magill believed it was and became thoroughly convinced that there was no mine there and never had been. I think Magill died in 1993 or '94 and like so many others, wasted a lot of time and money on his quest but never found a thing.
Meerkat enjoys the episodes and the views of the beautiful scenery.
probably be a Wal-Mart there by the time I get ready to go !
This place will always be a sacred space! 🙂 The Great Spirit is definitely very mysterious...
That's funny Carvin Lambert
@@JB-tc5xu Blessèd be /|\
Oh my beer I'm gonna drive my blazer up per
Since this is in the Superstition Wilderness, which is within the Tonto National Forest you'll never find a Walmart there, thankfully. (And yes, I know you were joking.)
It looked as if the opening down there was still clear though. We'll never know until someone actually goes down and in there.
I wouldn't mind taking the venture
Charlie did go down into the hole
Some day I will be there !!
Gold mining is life changing. All mining for that matter. I have been wanting to my whole life. Now that I have started there is no going back to regular life
Come on let’s go!
I'm going to camp with Elsita😎
Me invitas?? I love hiking I can b ur hike partner or life saver
@@jvm697 perv , lol 👍
Wow ! On many levels .
There's more information in this 14:59 video than what was in the History Channel click bait misinformation.
enjoyed it. Ive been through some areas near there and it is dangerous.
@@chazbaz4519 If you haven't the stamina, and you are experienced to avoid going in circles due to the terrain's challenges. Inexperienced persons will strand themselves after getting lost. Water and stocks necessary so when you do get lost, you can recharge yourself to get back out.
Why does the old guy sound like Mr. Haney on Green Acres with Eddie Albert and Eva Gabor....hee hee. You guys are real special and unlike most of us have found yer special purpose. My dad lives on the southwest side of the queen valley green. So when I inherit this mess I guess I will come wander aimlessly out their where dear old dad took his metal detector around the golf course anyway. Don't forget to stop and see Gene and Carolyn ....86 now
Love it...Thanks, David.
For 6 months I lived in a T-shaped cave just outside the boundaries of "The Lost Dutchman" State park. Kept my gear in there back in there booby trapped with tear gas attached to the shrub branches with a trip wire. I brought in the shrub to act as camouflage in front of my gear. If they persisted and went for the actual gear I had military grenade simulators rigged to the back pack and other gear by thier small cotton string. Pick up the pack then 15 seconds later "BOOM", lol. Fortunately no one ever went in there, of course when I was a way for extended periods I would ripen a dead skunk in the sun for a couple days and then toss it into the caves mouth a few feet. Always kept old dried rattle snake skins littered about too. Anyway I took a few trips back up into the Superstitions , to Weavers Needle, The Massacre Grounds "Peralta and men killed there". I had read where most people killed back in there were foolish and hiked out in the open, kept sky lining themselves, walk across the open valley floor, stay on trails etc. And were thereby easy prey for others back in there who did not want to come pout for new supplies etc. It was easy to watch people enter the area from vantage points and then ambush them for supplies and even their life. Quite a few were killed by beheading. It is said that higher up, the spires are called "People turned to Stone" and are sacred to the White Mountain Apaches even to this day. They were suspected of the beheadings. I was 09 years in the US Army 82nd Abn. and was not going to be foolish back in there. Always walked the military crest, stayed down is washes, stopped to listen for noises etc. When I got to the steep ascents to the spires I came across a skull and bones etched in black on the face of the rock wall with the word "Beware" then the date 1921. After that I had the safety on my HK91 switched off, round in the chamber and moved cautiously. I made camp about sunset, unpacked a few things. Once it was pretty dark I packed everything back up and moved perhaps an 1/8th mile to establish another camp. Just tried to be smart up in there. The next day, a peaceful Sunday morning perhaps about 6:30 standing up on the cliffs edge overlooking the valley floor I took the HK and cranked of 20 rounds of 308 as a great wake up call to all the people down below at the campgrounds and adjacent restaurant areas. LOL, it was pretty loud, then just echoed for a few more long seconds. Found mountain lion tracks about 30 feet from my camp, there is danger all over up there. From swarms of bees, snakes, Gila Monsters, scorpions, Black Widows, People. When I got back to my camp all was good except some joker shot the tires flat on my bicycle I had tucked up to and under a saguaro cactus. Suckers got me, but not my gear. 6 Months there waiting and waiting. Funny thing is a TV station came out there to use the cave for a Gold miner commercial. They brought some old furniture with them and when they were all done they said "Hey Rambo, you want us to leave you this here furniture? So hell, I had a furnished cave to chill in. It was all good excpet they had a large air cannon that they shot a bunch of popcorn from during the filming and I had mice for a couple weeks gorging on popcorn. Ah those were the days, no great pressure, now out here back in the game, fighting the daily fight, ugh. That was 1986 I lived out there. Went in the army at 17 in 73-83. City life and always chasing the dollar trying to keep on top of the bills, sometimes I so hate this mess of a life.
Dang!! Your comment reads like an adventure story! I got more involved in reading it than in watching the video, lol!
@@denisemayosky1955
Your comment is ruined by the "lol" at the end. Please stop doing this.
you’re a badass
Reminds me of a typical Gila County, AZ Coues Deer Hunt! I miss home!
That was Interesting though I wish that we could have seen the inside, Thank You for sharing all the same.
How badly do you wanna see inside? Badly enough to follow another channel?
Hell, I'm in stellar shape, born and raised in that area, would be easy for me with my background. =)
Maybe I should get together with a computer savvy person and make a channel?
I can see why they advised against going down there though it's it's there's a reason why a lot of people lost their life trying to Chase gold. Thank you for showing it to us sir
Thanks guys! 👍
I’ve been out that way. Just not up that far. I’d love to come up and mine it
I just want to tell a little history of what a very reliable source and also a very good friend that is a very knowledgeable and in all words a real mountain man that does not spook very easy untill he was near this exact mind or cave and he was with a few other men of the same caliber of my friend and I have known these men 25 plus years ,so I believe what they tell me they had all types of weird unexplainable things happen they all seen a creature that moved like a shadow and my one buddy said this thing screamed at him when he was approaching this very cave where Larry and the other men went to.They would hear people talking all through the night like they were walking up to there camp and there would not be a person to be found.They had a real good fire going the first night and they were seeing sillowets of men looking at them like 50',60 feet away' and they would focus there eyes and there would not be anything there.It was going to be a 3 day trip let's just say they were all home in there houses by noon the next day. This was 1991 when this all happen this trip changed my friends way of going on overnight trips and the way they prospect .
Ooooohh, sounds sooo skaaweee!
Awesome - thanks gents
Such a good mystery remember the show wish they would have brought it back thanks for the video
The main guy from the show continues a show still looking here on youtube
Did My Granddad find The Lost Dutchman Mine?
My granddad was a famous Southern California cowboy named Walt Whitlock. He was
born in 1885 and died in 1960.
In around 1905 to about 1910 He and his cousin, Steve Helm went on a hunting
expedition to the Colorado 4 corners area. They jerked all their meat and
were on their way to back to San Diego County when they encountered a sand
storm. They rode up into the Superstition Mountains, down the Salt River,
looking for shelter.
Around dark, on a narrow cliff-side trail, south of the river, they found
what they thought was a cave. It was barely large enough for them & their
horses. When it became light the next morning they realized that this wasn't
a cave, but a shallow, horizontal mine shaft, about 20 feet deep and 15, or
so, feet wide. by about 6 feet tall. In the back of the tunnel they could see
a vein of gold the width of the tunnel & 2 feet thick. They took their
hunting knives & dug out some of the gold. Then they drew a crude map of the
area with the idea of coming back later to stake a claim.
They actually went back several times, but weren't able to locate the mine.
They claimed the topography looked totally different. They even rode up the
river, & down the same canyon as they had that evening, they even found the
correct trail, but it stopped before they got to where they believed the mine
was located. In fact the last time they were there, they had to back their
horse up about 100 yards just to get back to the main trail, but the mine
wasn't to be found.
Sometime during the Great Depression my Granddad misplaced his "Dutchman" map.
After his death in 1960 I went through his belongings looking for it, but it
was just as lost as the Dutchman's mine.
About 15 years ago I took a interest in trying to figure out where this mine
was really at. so I began searching for it on the Internet, I download every
"Dutchman" map I could find, about 60 to be exact.
After pouring over all this information, as well as lots of old Dutchman
stories, I decided that the Dutchman had probably found an existing Spanish
mine, probably dug by the Peralta party, before they were massacred. I began
to compared all of these maps and discovered that all of the ones which were
of a good enough quality to be of any use, seemed to have a couple of features
in common, that being a triangle looking place at the conjuncture of 2 canyons,
just south of the Salt River.
When the Google satellite view came out, it made this task much easier, so I
began to search Google maps for these features, and I believe I've been
successful. I've found a place at the end of La Barge Canyon which seems to
match the listed topography, as well as my Granddads "Ghost Trail.
I appears to be in a large rock slide, which I believe is the reason Granddad
couldn't find it again. It appears the whole face of the cliff slide away in
one large slide, completely wiping out the trail for several hundred yards, &
covering part of the entrance. The entrance is still viable, but is now just
a slot, instead of the 6 foot tall, 15 foot wide rectangular opening my Granddad
described, it's now just a 15 foot by about 3 foot high slot, with the bottom
of the mine forming the top of the slide. The area in question is just above
the top of La Barge Canyon. It appears there is a trail up the top of the
ridge, above the mine. I believe this is what Granddad referred to as the "Main
Trail". It appears the trail to the mine actually crossed the main trail, but the
slide has wiped most of it out, for what looks like several hundred yard.
The correct area is just about in the middle of this map.
www.google.com/maps/@33.5150089,-111.4253742,2403m/data=!3m1!1e3
Hi Dave! Quite a story. You could write a novel about it! Really though your a very open person but maybe shouldn't tell everything and find the old mine first, but maybe you're not in the top condition it takes to hike far into that country. I never imagined such a peaceful and beautiful looking place could have so many dangers, yet I'm from Minnesota where the only danger is getting lost in the northern woods, or trapped in cold, of falling through too thin of ice, but nothing like down in the southwest deserts. It seems those guys did somewhat of a spur of the moment hike as they were so cut up by the thorny desert flora. Maybe they went back dressed in protective clothes and brought safer climbing equipment to finally go down the shaft again. I've heard they even find gold in the tailings piles as they had cruder means of finding gold back then I guess. Just my amateur view. I met a guy briefly once in Wyoming and he said, "How'd you like to go and find some pay dirt?" I think of that now and then and wish I would have. Thanks for your video!
One little problem with your story, gold isn't found in a vein underground, it's always encapsulated within quartz and has to be chemically separated.
roguesquatcher you 100% sure about that???
What chemicals did they use in the 1800s to extract it?
@@joerob3449 Not always, depends on how it got there, volcanic activity can spit it out in a big chunk. I personally don't think what my Granddad found was the Dutchman, I think it was one of the Perolta 9(SP?) mines. That fits the maps.
I was born and raised in Tucson Arizona, if anyone ever wants a tour guide and think they can do it, I'm happy to lend my services as a Arizona cave spelunker.
Have done caving since I was a kid, I am in good enough shape to carry gear or lend a helping hand to those who may need it too!
I need help to get here
But no gold experience?!
I have hiked all over that place when I was younger with Pappy Flora and and the Syson clan, and we never found that place, beautiful area and always a treat to hike, God bless you guys!
Like we know who pappy flora is or your Klan lol. Sure...
Your. Dum
We went on a hike in the superstition mountains it was pretty rugged even on the marked trails. I can't imagine pushing my way into the cat's claws. That doesn't look like a cache. A cache is meant to be retreived. Even if you want to hide it, there would be zero reason to bury it that deep. That looks like it was an active mine at one point. Take a metal detector and some rope and go down there and see if there is anything there.
Greensiraldragon. Metal detectors were not very common in the 1950s and besides this “dig” was first discovered in 1915 if you listen to the story. The finder died in 1960, two years after showing it to me. His brother continued enlisting others for an unknown time period. How many people would surmise, as you did, that what was buried would be so shallow and just give up? The next volunteer, enthralled with tales of riches exclaims, “oh! It’s just another foot or two” and so it goes.
Very cool. Thank you for sharing!
I love the fake mud splatters and bandage. Means it’s really easy to get to, I mean if they’re pulling those rookie decoy Makeup
I've hiked most of these different areas, during my reccy class. I will tell you, it's more than dangerous. One wrong move, one slip, and you won't even have time to call for help. Your last words will be, "shi-" or a half scream. Puma, rattlers, bear, coywolves, javalina, and scorpions live there. Every plant wants to hurt you. The cliffs, are normally so unstable and deteriorating, that they can collapse and bury you alive. There's gas pockets, underground sinkholes, volcanic slyte(not slate, different rocks), and pyrocaulderic tubes(volcanic tubes from an extinct volcano). Going into these areas without proper equipment, is the same as attempting suicide. Not only were these TV folks underprepared, but the only reason why they're alive is simply because of experience, and common sense. This is definitely not something that you attempt as a greenhorn.
Hi guardsmanom134! I love wild country, but wow, nothing nearly as dangerous hiking the back country in northern Minnesota when I was in better condition. This beautiful country makes me want to move to Arizona to retire, but I imagine it's expensive, cost of living very high in Arizona, right? I'm pretty low budget. Why doesn't anyone keep mining that shaft? Are there regulations where you can't mine by hand for gold there? Does such a deep shaft mean they found a lot of gold there? All that country, up until 1845, was "New Spain", or depends when, was "Mexico" up until President Polk claimed "Manifest Destiny" and the Calvary took all the land, or actually it was the land of the native people. Maybe that mine goes back even before 1845. If they did an archaeological analysis they would know. Any input from anyone would be appreciated. Thanks for making the video!
@@mwj5368 Minnesota, that's mostly mountains and lakes right? One place I have yet to see. I have been more or less South of the mason dixon, for most of my outdoors experience. That being said, I used to go deer hunting with my dad up in Wyoming and Utah. High Uinta mountain range, and Huntsville. It's cold up there, and just as dangerous,and only different to Apache junction and surrounding areas in the fact that you're probably going to land on something soft if you fall. Water is pretty scarce, and both places are geared towards eating you alive. The gold in the area, it's not worth the price. There's no way to cash in if you're dead. And the hiking is only for those who are extremely experienced and well equipped to the task. It's not for greenhorns, as I said.
@@guardsmanom134 Hi! I have to laugh as no mountains in Minnesota, plenty of lakes. They call some mountains along the north shore of Lake Superior, the "Sawtooth Mountain Range". I don't really think of them as mountains, but I guess you could think of them that way. It's all beautiful country though. I couldn't at the time, now over 10 yrs ago, lift a canoe as I have a bad back due to a lot of manual labor jobs in my life, so I used a frame pack and hiked the trails in the "Boundary Waters Canoe Area" on the border to Ontario Canada. I hiked 5 days and saw one person as I hiked early in the season, and sometimes very late when it fringes on snowing. I'd love to go to Utah and Wyoming. When my back was better I backpacked in the "Cloud Mountain Wilderness" in northern Wyoming. I was alone and got into major snowfall. I was above the tree line at about 12,000 and started to get a headache and kept low for a couple days, then hiked back down. Too much to write, but never did I realize Arizona and Superstition Mountains being dangerous in so many ways. Thanks for your insights! I bet it gets very hot there. A guy I know tried to live in Slab City and had a terrible time, his pet cat disappeared there too. He now lives in a small mining town near the Canadian border. So you settled in Arizona as your favorite place?
Yes, I've never been there, but from what I've seen on Google maps, it looks like a very dangerous place.
guardsmanom134 Huntsville..there's water everywhere.rivers springs..in the uintas there's water all around..as for falling on soft.
Nope!
I lived in Huntsville and Eden.
You don't know what your talking about
The rocks alone have mystery too
No they don't.
Yes they do mudfossils.
Thousands of mines in Arizona. Abandoned
An off road trip like this one requires gloves & long sleeve shirt & good boots and a good rescue rope if you slip down the hole. You guys are a danger to your self with out gear. Great adventure - good hunting
Yes, judging by the state of their arms I wondered why they weren't dressed more appropriately. Especially as Larry had been in there twice before. Ok, Larry did say the brush growth was a lot worse this time.
That was pretty cool. Sounds like it was a great place to hide things.
5 hours to get there, don't explore the mine. I'm too spoiled for this.
I FOUND THE SPOT, and ya it definitely is hard to get to. Took me 4 trys, totally worth it.
Nice!
bring a gun with you also, lots of nut jobs still looking for Jacobs Waltz gold
@Nardo yeah, they still run around there looking for it!
I'm pretty dumb about this, but does that shaft look like a place that would have gold to mine? Seems like kind of an odd place to start digging.
When I was a young man, we camped out there for a few days. I thought the whole place was kind of creepy.
There are a lot of stories about lost gold and silver out there. Out of all that we hiked to, Wolf Creek Pass Colorado was the best. From my old research, I believe the treasure has been found there, but I love the natural not springs in the area.
All of these places are exceptionally dangerous. I was with 2 other people that had been there before, and we were all experienced explorers. The interesting part was going with a geologist, and finding layers in the mountains and have him go through everything that happened. While he made his money working claims for different kinds of crystals, back then we were all broke, and dreamed of finding bars and bars of gold or silver.
Thank you for posting.
It was a cache, not a dig.
What was creepy about it, would you say?
Don't be snooping around. The land is leased or owned and shortly you will be looking down some sort of firearm 20 years ago. I know of many mines in that area. The Swedes would buried their entrances with up to a foot of dirt over wooden doors back in the 60s. I knew a few of these miners myself. I can tell you where to look but it would take about a week to get a thimble of gold and I assure you you will not make it out without someone challenging you. Some of the old equipment was still there in 2000. Gold fell out of the sloosh box and the ones I saw were 10 to 15 feet long. Some of the mine shafts were 200 or more feet deep that I saw. More stories if anyone is interested. I was not a miner nor do I have any claims.
D. Cantrell lmfao people are still going to go there.
After 2 years of being all over that place on foot , by mule , trucks and quad runners -> There is nothing there worth a damn . Samples taken from small tailing piles - Samples taken from 60 different areas . The only things of interest are unmarked graves and old whiskey bottles from countless drunks who wanted to hit it big and died drunk or getting shot in the back .
The stories get better if you keep buying an old drunk guy beer who "knows all about them stitions " . Like one old prospector told me - "They should have named those mountains The Mountains of Lies and Broken Dreams" .
That last line got a good laugh out of me! Better luck in your future endeavours!
SAR TRACKING yeah old az family boy here ... My family has been here for 140 years and connected there is no lost Dutch mine he worked the mines out west and stole he then would Rob and kill Mexican miner's he did have a stash but a mine no and it was taken shortly after his death.its all a lie to keep people paying in to it.enjoy the sups. It s a amazing place it's not a cursed mountain or a scary place it's 120 in the summer there is no water hall the plants are deadly poison and cell phones are hit and miss oh and we have killer bees and 🐍 sssss. Basically if your from out of town don't go in with out someone that knows it ..and for you out of town ppl .....it's like saying let's walk in to the Wyoming mountain or plans when it's 20- below with a long time shit and sneakers ......now dose it make sense???? Of course that will kill you .if it's over 85 in the day time out here and your not a local in excellent health well you just killed your self. Seriously if your not from here and it's past April lasting till October one mile top. Once you are in trouble out there it's to late
@@Nova-ne1il I live in San Diego and was just planning on doing some camping out there, but now I'm not so sure
@@Nova-ne1il Like those 3 old guys from Utah several years ago who hiked in in July, leaving their maps & water in the car. Took months to find their bodies. Being as respectful as I can these guys were total idiots. One of them had even been rescued from the Supes just the previous summer.
Chad Ellis it's great for camping but if it's summer not below 7000 feet and if it's the supers you want just go in February .
Clearly a drone is the way to explore this area, at least for the first few visits.
Have you seen the show?
Illegal to fly there now.
@@scottp7587 I'm not surprised. Flying drones over difficult terrain instead of requiring people crawl over boulders in rough terrain infested with rattlesnakes makes much more sense. Don't you agree?
@@spikey2740 Nobody is going to find any lost gold flying drones much less on the ground that place has been picked over with a fine tooth comb , and as for flying the drones I disagree and it should be legal , being told you cant fly here cant fly there is pure BS as long as its not near an airport its BS .
Get a drone to go in the mine these videos aren't just videos ther history lessons great channel thank you
I don't know about you. but I came that far, I'm pretty sure I'd have rope. I would have went to the bottom I want to see exactly what that drift look like. Too much work not to see the reward....
Terry Morrison I felt the same way, so I did go to the bottom using the ladder.
AND!!!!
Daniel Storts nada
I'm afraid you'd use a rope and when scaling or repelling off the side of the pit that's very vertical and a loose kind of soil, that digging your boots into the side while climbing up or descending as opposed to using a ladder, that you might cause a collapse. Maybe you could estimate the depth and each carry a section of aluminum extension ladder, get in there that way. Do metal detectors work finding gold deposits? It must be pretty amazing living out west.
Which makes me skeptical...
If you ever visit there, go visit Goldfield Mine Camp. It is right next door to where they are standing.
The Superstition Mts. were once a distance, but clear, view from my backdoor and porch. Loved it.
Very deceiving trek. The cave is really interesting. alot of history and stories hidden away.
This exact mine is shown in a series done by History Channel.
@Hank Sheffer Well, he said he didn't think anyone had been in there since he last went in. Probably not true.
Please take me there im ready to explore it.
what really gets me is that's not one of the 7 mines or the 18 mines or even the 31 mines ...lol it is a pit that's about it ! ....lol great find.... great video ...
The irony of that being the actual opening to the dutchman that they covered up would be great! The reason they left the wheel barrow after 30 ft!!??
I have hunted in this country many many years, its rough and hard to manage country.
Fast forward to 12:33 There is a single shot of a huge quartzite deposit, oh and by the way I once saw a picture of an 80lb ingot of gold supposedly found at the lost Dutchman mine, way back in 1979. ( Hard to believe today, but back then it was worth 240k).
Many thanks for the video. It is interesting, and a great mystery. Leave it that way.
You bet
Best episode ever. Go back and drop a camera down the hole. Do it for Charlie.
Charlie did go into the hole
The mine was abandoned--not lost. (Not complaining; just pointing it out as a matter of interest.)
Yeah.
Or....
The miners were killed or scared off by the Apaches and it is a LOST mine.
@@secretsquirrel6718 Good imagination...
@@stretchsmith5232 you dont know
@@secretsquirrel6718 I stomped around the Superstitions for 40 years, have you, Alfalfa?
@@stretchsmith5232 like I said.
You dont know.
Thats why yoi point things out as amatter if interest and not a matter of fact.
Cool I would explore 😊
looked like guy was pretty close to going down the ladder
He did a very short climb
I can relate to the hike. I've been backpacking for 20+ years, I've done similar hikes in similar terrain cross-country (no trails) in Joshua Tree N.P. ... pretty gnarly stuff. It isn't as easy as it looks.
Did you ever get way back where the dirt road gets very rough? A lot of mining went on there, extremely interesting area, but watch for toxic gas pockets in the mining area. Be careful if you go through.
Great video! I just did an episode over there its such an incredible place!
What was the video for, Monica?
Charlie LeSueur
An onlyfans video
Oh my gosh I know exactly where this is at 😂
Gly, from "Abandoned and forgotten places" would do it, he has been checking out, documenting Old mines for quite a while now.
Nice
Wow great show could you please make a drawing of the wheel barrel so wee coul see it thank you sir for sharing some of your child hood memories
WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PLACE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY ASHES SCATTERED WHEN I DIE IT WOULD BE PEACEFUL
Amazing!!