Helping Ukraine defeat Russia is the cost-effective path to peace, while allowing Russia to gain anything will be immensely expensive and increases the likelihood of a NATO-Russia war. This is the message Western political leaders, analysts, and media should be delivering.
I agree. This was the constant message from Jens Stoltenberg, and what political leaders (and the vast majority of everyone else) is promoting here in the Nordic countries as well as the Baltic countries.
Western commenters can't help thinking politically, as if Putin cares about popular opinion. Polls and elections show that the truncheon trumps dissatisfaction and has for two decades of rule. It's quite hilarious to hear talk about negotiating a home invasion robbery by holding back on some jewelry.
The obvious way to counter Russian intimidation is by telling the truth: allowing Russia to gain anything from this war will almost certainly lead to a shooting war between NATO and Russia within a few years. That’s what Westerners should fear-not the Kremlin’s endless, empty nuclear threats. Helping Ukraine defeat Russia, on the other hand, makes such a war far, far less likely. Not to mention, helping Ukraine defeat Russia is far cheaper than gearing up for a full-scale war with Russia, let alone dealing with the staggering costs of the war itself. Helping Ukraine defeat Russia is the cost-effective path to peace, while allowing Russia to gain anything will be immensely expensive and increases the likelihood of a NATO-Russia war. This is the message Western political leaders, analysts, and media should be delivering.
I don't bother waiting for the politicians to do something. I have supported Ukraine personally. It's not because of NATO or lies from the RT, Kremlin, RussIan bots, or anything other than being a human being who sees someone needing help.
Konigsberg was beautiful and Kaliningrad is ugly. Also those buildings in Mariupol are ugly the way they rebuilt. I don't like their sense of aesthetics. Meanwhile Canada, Australia and New Zealand were built beautifully.
@@chrismitchell4622 Funnily enough, Lithuania was once offered Kaliningrad, but they refused because they didn't want a million Russians within their borders.
Thanks to the two of you. Ukraine not at the meeting! Boy that would have a bunch of people to put the gloves on. lol. Gloves because it will probably be very cold outside.
I never understood that angel , how on earth can Nato be seen as a threat . Unless you are up to no good , if you dont threaten your nabors . Nato is like it dosnt exist , but if you are up to no good i can understand you dont want it as your nabor . And that is exactly why Russia is afraid of having it as nabor , they are always up to no good .
If you'll permit me go back to 1940 for a second, to this operational masterpiece known as the 'Manstien plan'. Once the Germans committed to this plan, they were stuck with it. Guderian's flanks were expanding faster than he could ever protect them. If the French knew as much about his plan as he knew about theirs, they could've cutoff Guderian's entire army, assuming they were competent and cohesive. Either way, the Germans were locked into this plan, risking the war itself perhaps if it failed. The French DID attack the flanks. But the Germans were quite prepared to throw the entire army through that breakthrough at Sedan if necessary. The significance of this front was paramount. Guderian pushed logistics to the absolute limit. Putin has setup WW3 whether the west wants to acknowledge it or not, and Putin's 'breakthrough at Sedan' is the internet and his misinformation/disinformation/propaganda campaign. It's being broadcast almost everywhere in the USA right now across right-wing christian radio on the AM band, and is ubiquitous in all social media. The only thing defending this highly prioritized flank, is the west's ignorance, and the mortal fear Putin can cultivate with his terrorist propaganda. He's allied and funded political parties across the globe. So surrender could never be easier, -a key element to any military action. There are things regarding war the public doesn't want to know. They simplify it into a binary decision they can put off. This is the front line. And Americans are running away from it. But it's the propaganda that is grooming them.
And no one attacked Russia when Soviet union fell. the evil west dropped its weapons and opened the borders.. strange behavior if they wanted to invade Russia 😂 it almost seems they wanted Russia to become like any other European country.
@leemisiak2955 nobody was threatening or attacking Russia. That's the point. Ukraine not being in NATO was what provoked Putin to start his unprovoked invasions
@ Ukraine broke rules that’s why the attack started….. Ukraine stabbed his brother in the back ….. do you know what Russia did for these losers? Ukraine we’re farmers before Russia came and helped
Russia (Putin and Kremlin) needs to decide what is more important to Russia. Is the invasion, occupation and annexation of the tiny parts of 5 Ukraine oblasts of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporitzia, Kherson and Crimea worth losing ALL of Russia for? If Russia continues on the current course their Geopolitical status will be extinguished, their military standing completely destroyed and their economy setback 50 years to the point of bankruptcy, from the sanctions most of the world have applied. And that's before you consider the internal strife, attempted coups and disappearance of high ranking generals, China's distancing and Ukraine's own SMO into Russia's Kursk Oblast. Is the break up of Russia worth Putins madness in Ukraine ? Militarily Russia is impotent and losing in Ukraine...... Syria is lost Georgia is revolting Chechnya persueing blood feuds Moldo voted for EU Uzbekistan leaving CTSO KURSK invaded Etc, Russia should leave Ukraine while they have something salvageable to go home to.
putin has tied russia to be at war for many years, probably decades. If they stop being at war, they'll collapse. And if they lose, they'll collapse. They expect the West to fall for this threat. They expect the West to back off, fall into disunity, so they can attack one piece of a time and win. But russia has an economy the size of Spain alone, and a production capacity not much larger. russia's economy is in free fall with no parachute, no matter the distance to the bottom. russia is losing russia.
UN Security Council had adopted a number of resolutions condemning DPRK for activities (launches, testing, & human rights) and had imposed sanctions. Responsibility to Protect was dealt a blow in Libya. The Vietnam War had the Pentagon take a hard look at how things were portrayed in conflicts and imaging became more controlled as the media was consolidated with removing the Fairness Doctrine. WWII might as well be the US Civil War in a weird way. 26 February 2019 "(I)n many ways Kim Jong-un has already achieved some level of sanctions relief by engaging in a year of summits with presidents Trump and Moon Jae-in." "The problem for President Trump is that North Korea may achieve enough sanctions relief by way of lax implementation to survive, while never giving up any key aspects of its nuclear programme in return. If the objective of sanctions is to commit North Korea to limit its nuclear aspirations, the current trajectory of negotiations is not conducive to that." - Sizing Up Sanctions in the Second Trump-Kim Jong-un Summit (Royal United Services Institute) 26 May 2022 S/2022/431 ... "was a draft resolution proposed by the US and vetoed by China and Russia that would have updated and strengthened the 1718 DPRK (S)anctions (Committee) regime." 28 March 2024 S/PV.9591 ... "is a record of the meeting at which Russia vetoed a draft resolution that would have extended the mandate of the Panel of Experts assisting the 1718 DPRK Sanctions Committee. "
The warsaw pact was a military alliance designed to keep Russian occupied territories under Russia's boot. A military alliance that even invaded itself. In strong contrast with NATO, where countries peacefully join NATO by choice
The operation in Libya was a U.N. operation. United Nations SC Resolution 1973 gave NATO a mandate to enforce a no-fly zone using "all necessary measures" to protect civilians. The operation was 7 months in 2011 and is the only NATO operation in Syria.
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Ukraine has over 100 countries around the world supporting Ukraine. The Ukranian military forces, civilians won't give up. It's this simple. If the US is so afraid, that says more than anything else. It's incumbent on the US to stand by their word, if they don't, other countries know the US cannot be trusted.
Then the USA would get into a big devastating war within 2-5 years. They procrastinated till the Pearl Harbor bombing to start fighting. Today they have a chance to relearn their lesson. But this time it might turn out not as happy for them as it was. Definitely, something is rotten in the state of America...
Thank you. If you plan of doing a one hour video with him I will shurely listen. Your guest seems very interresting.
Glory to Ukraine.
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Helping Ukraine defeat Russia is the cost-effective path to peace, while allowing Russia to gain anything will be immensely expensive and increases the likelihood of a NATO-Russia war.
This is the message Western political leaders, analysts, and media should be delivering.
I agree. This was the constant message from Jens Stoltenberg, and what political leaders (and the vast majority of everyone else) is promoting here in the Nordic countries as well as the Baltic countries.
Ruzzia is a 'house of cards' and Vlad the Terrible is holding the 'Deadman's hand'.
Thanks, UATV Englih version.
Western commenters can't help thinking politically, as if Putin cares about popular opinion. Polls and elections show that the truncheon trumps dissatisfaction and has for two decades of rule. It's quite hilarious to hear talk about negotiating a home invasion robbery by holding back on some jewelry.
Great interview 👏
The obvious way to counter Russian intimidation is by telling the truth: allowing Russia to gain anything from this war will almost certainly lead to a shooting war between NATO and Russia within a few years. That’s what Westerners should fear-not the Kremlin’s endless, empty nuclear threats. Helping Ukraine defeat Russia, on the other hand, makes such a war far, far less likely. Not to mention, helping Ukraine defeat Russia is far cheaper than gearing up for a full-scale war with Russia, let alone dealing with the staggering costs of the war itself.
Helping Ukraine defeat Russia is the cost-effective path to peace, while allowing Russia to gain anything will be immensely expensive and increases the likelihood of a NATO-Russia war.
This is the message Western political leaders, analysts, and media should be delivering.
YES! Exactly!
I don't bother waiting for the politicians to do something. I have supported Ukraine personally. It's not because of NATO or lies from the RT, Kremlin, RussIan bots, or anything other than being a human being who sees someone needing help.
Konigsberg was beautiful and Kaliningrad is ugly. Also those buildings in Mariupol are ugly the way they rebuilt. I don't like their sense of aesthetics. Meanwhile Canada, Australia and New Zealand were built beautifully.
Time for support so Lithuania can take back its territory!
@@chrismitchell4622 Funnily enough, Lithuania was once offered Kaliningrad, but they refused because they didn't want a million Russians within their borders.
18:30 The leaders from the West never learned from their own history. Sad but true😢
Thanks to the two of you. Ukraine not at the meeting! Boy that would have a bunch of people to put the gloves on. lol. Gloves because it will probably be very cold outside.
I never understood that angel , how on earth can Nato be seen as a threat . Unless you are up to no good , if you dont threaten your nabors . Nato is like it dosnt exist , but if you are up to no good i can understand you dont want it as your nabor . And that is exactly why Russia is afraid of having it as nabor , they are always up to no good .
If you'll permit me go back to 1940 for a second, to this operational masterpiece known as the 'Manstien plan'. Once the Germans committed to this plan, they were stuck with it.
Guderian's flanks were expanding faster than he could ever protect them. If the French knew as much about his plan as he knew about theirs, they could've cutoff Guderian's entire army, assuming they were competent and cohesive.
Either way, the Germans were locked into this plan, risking the war itself perhaps if it failed. The French DID attack the flanks. But the Germans were quite prepared to throw the entire army through that breakthrough at Sedan if necessary. The significance of this front was paramount. Guderian pushed logistics to the absolute limit.
Putin has setup WW3 whether the west wants to acknowledge it or not, and Putin's 'breakthrough at Sedan' is the internet and his misinformation/disinformation/propaganda campaign. It's being broadcast almost everywhere in the USA right now across right-wing christian radio on the AM band, and is ubiquitous in all social media.
The only thing defending this highly prioritized flank, is the west's ignorance, and the mortal fear Putin can cultivate with his terrorist propaganda. He's allied and funded political parties across the globe. So surrender could never be easier, -a key element to any military action.
There are things regarding war the public doesn't want to know. They simplify it into a binary decision they can put off. This is the front line. And Americans are running away from it. But it's the propaganda that is grooming them.
20:07 Oh dear. When someone can't pronounce "nuclear," it's like licking one's knife at the dinner table.
@@AstroGremlinAmerican LOL.
This!
Trump needs Zelensky rather than visa versa.
Poland from 1999 and Baltics from 2004 in NATO and nobody attacked russia.
Let’s attack you? Lol why you wanna attack Russia
Correct, dainagrn. Meanwhile, russia is openly attacking its neighbours, and attacking us in comment sections incl. here.
And no one attacked Russia when Soviet union fell. the evil west dropped its weapons and opened the borders.. strange behavior if they wanted to invade Russia 😂 it almost seems they wanted Russia to become like any other European country.
@leemisiak2955 nobody was threatening or attacking Russia. That's the point. Ukraine not being in NATO was what provoked Putin to start his unprovoked invasions
@ Ukraine broke rules that’s why the attack started….. Ukraine stabbed his brother in the back ….. do you know what Russia did for these losers? Ukraine we’re farmers before Russia came and helped
Russia (Putin and Kremlin) needs to decide what is more important to Russia.
Is the invasion, occupation and annexation of the tiny parts of 5 Ukraine oblasts of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporitzia, Kherson and Crimea worth losing ALL of Russia for?
If Russia continues on the current course their Geopolitical status will be extinguished, their military standing completely destroyed and their economy setback 50 years to the point of bankruptcy, from the sanctions most of the world have applied.
And that's before you consider the internal strife, attempted coups and disappearance of high ranking generals, China's distancing and Ukraine's own SMO into Russia's Kursk Oblast.
Is the break up of Russia worth Putins madness in Ukraine ?
Militarily Russia is impotent and losing in Ukraine......
Syria is lost
Georgia is revolting
Chechnya persueing blood feuds
Moldo voted for EU
Uzbekistan leaving CTSO
KURSK invaded
Etc,
Russia should leave Ukraine while they have something salvageable to go home to.
putin has tied russia to be at war for many years, probably decades. If they stop being at war, they'll collapse. And if they lose, they'll collapse. They expect the West to fall for this threat. They expect the West to back off, fall into disunity, so they can attack one piece of a time and win. But russia has an economy the size of Spain alone, and a production capacity not much larger. russia's economy is in free fall with no parachute, no matter the distance to the bottom. russia is losing russia.
I wouldn't even say threat. More like an inconvenience
What a lieing dream 😈. It's not a threat
UN Security Council had adopted a number of resolutions condemning DPRK for activities (launches, testing, & human rights) and had imposed sanctions.
Responsibility to Protect was dealt a blow in Libya. The Vietnam War had the Pentagon take a hard look at how things were portrayed in conflicts and imaging became more controlled as the media was consolidated with removing the Fairness Doctrine. WWII might as well be the US Civil War in a weird way.
26 February 2019
"(I)n many ways Kim Jong-un has already achieved some level of sanctions relief by engaging in a year of summits with presidents Trump and Moon Jae-in."
"The problem for President Trump is that North Korea may achieve enough sanctions relief by way of lax implementation to survive, while never giving up any key aspects of its nuclear programme in return. If the objective of sanctions is to commit North Korea to limit its nuclear aspirations, the current trajectory of negotiations is not conducive to that."
- Sizing Up Sanctions in the Second Trump-Kim Jong-un Summit (Royal United Services Institute)
26 May 2022 S/2022/431 ... "was a draft resolution proposed by the US and vetoed by China and Russia that would have updated and strengthened the 1718 DPRK (S)anctions (Committee) regime."
28 March 2024 S/PV.9591 ... "is a record of the meeting at which Russia vetoed a draft resolution that would have extended the mandate of the Panel of Experts assisting the 1718 DPRK Sanctions Committee. "
Imagine, AFTER NATO stops to exist, if the Warsaw pact had THREE ROUNDS of expansion Westward.
The warsaw pact was a military alliance designed to keep Russian occupied territories under Russia's boot. A military alliance that even invaded itself.
In strong contrast with NATO, where countries peacefully join NATO by choice
Has NATO ever invaded one of its members to keep them in the alliance?
"nATo iS A deFenSivE alLiance!"
Where they Defensive in Libya and other country's they invaded? You bias hypocrites
I guess Libya and other country's they invaded is called Defensive?
@@emmaizu4406yes they were defending. Go back to RTV IVAN😊
@@emmaizu4406 But was not that intervention decide by the UN Security Council?
The operation in Libya was a U.N. operation. United Nations SC Resolution 1973 gave NATO a mandate to enforce a no-fly zone using "all necessary measures" to protect civilians. The operation was 7 months in 2011 and is the only NATO operation in Syria.
You think so,nato is weak.the war much not start in the beginng anny way??
11 (KAT) Rejoice, heavens, rejoice, earth; let the sea roar and what fills it, 12 (KAT) let the field and everything that is in it rejoice. And all the trees of the forest grow bright 13 (KAT) before the face of the Lord, that he is coming, that he is coming to judge the earth. He will justly judge the earth and the nations according to his truth.
Not a journalist a propagandists O Yes
Rubbish excuses
If the USA decides to stop arming and funding Ukraine then what?
Ukraine has over 100 countries around the world supporting Ukraine.
The Ukranian military forces, civilians won't give up. It's this simple.
If the US is so afraid, that says more than anything else. It's incumbent on the US to stand by their word, if they don't, other countries know the US cannot be trusted.
Europe needs to stand up. Not only for that, but in general.
Then the USA would get into a big devastating war within 2-5 years. They procrastinated till the Pearl Harbor bombing to start fighting. Today they have a chance to relearn their lesson. But this time it might turn out not as happy for them as it was. Definitely, something is rotten in the state of America...
Why is NATO so weak?
NATO is a defensive organization they are not war mongers! With less centralized government like Dicktater Putin they do not invade others!
I blame you.
Why weak?
Russia is weak
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