Jocko Podcast 77 with Roger Hayden: War Stories. Mental Toughness and Clever Tactics
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
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0:00:00 - Opening
0:06:25 - Training and Going to Vietnam
0:44:02 - Differences between Volunteers VS Draft guys.
0:45:26 - Wounded in a Fire Fight.
0:50:20 - More Deployments to Vietnam.
1:05:01 - Kilo Platoon Deployment to Vietnam.
1:22:28 - OP Tempo.
1:30:46 - Blue on Blue and Lessons.
1:38:07 - The Stay-Behind Ambush.
2:01:43 - The Fist Fight with a Big Dude.
2:04:33 - Becoming a Warrant Officer.
2:05:29 - Advice on Going into the SEAL Teams.
2:12:02 - Some details about the Boobie Traps in Vietnam.
2:17:19 - Support, Cool Onnit, JockoStore stuff, with Jocko White Tea and Psychological Warfare (on iTunes). Extreme Ownership (book), (Jocko's Kids' Book) Way of the Warrior Kid, and The Muster 003.
2:28:35 - Closing Gratitude.
I feel like I just eavesdropped on a convo I haven't earned the right to listen to. Very humbling.
That's good. I like that comment.
Good evening echo
welcome2myhėåd - good evening
Rk M word
Gary Weidemann i
"You can do everything right and you can still get killed. And you can do all kinds of things wrong and live."
But you really need to throw the frags right
right violence, Sounds about right to me. It's true when you think about it.
For Corpsmen and Medics this is the hardest pill to swallow. Sometimes you do everything right, you've got a patent airway, you've got the bleeding under control or stopped, you get the IV started (no problem), you've treated for shock you've called for a medevac and they still die. After that, a LOT of guys (Corpsmen/Medics) beat themselves up and wrack their brains thinking, "what didn't I do?". And after all the self reflection most times the answer is...."nothing......I did nothing wrong....I did everything right, and everything I could".
my grandpa was a SEAL in Vietnam. He only told me one story when we were drunk. Him and 3 other people were being extracted by swcc so they had to jump in a river to get to the boat and my grandfather was suppose to be the first one on the boat, but he had to fix his rifle to his back so his bestfriend went up first and right when he stood up his head blew up from a sniper right in front of my grandfather.
@@christopherlee4796 yes it does.
My dad was a Seabee two tours in Vietnam. He has dementia now, doesn't remember any one, Roger reminds me so much of my dad. Thank you so much for your service gentlemen, it's because of you all that we live in the greatest country in the world. We don't have to wake up and worry if a bomb is going to take out our home, or any of that. Thank you.
jamie lacerte Utmost respect to your Father.
If you think you don't have things like that to worry about then you're delisional. For example - Twin towers, mass shootings constantly...wake up lady
accradata I think you’re missing the point of what she’s saying.
accradata You can't live your life constantly worried about that shit.
@@accradata none of your examples involved "bombs" 🤣🤣🤣
“I’ll tell ya, I talked to a lot of guys in your platoon from Ramadi. They’d follow you to hell and back if they had to. They loved you.” May be the highest level of praise, to hear from someone that you idolize that the people you lead into combat had such a high level of praise for you.
If the lower enlisted men praise a field grade officer - an O4, that is truly how you know that officer is legit.
Rodger the Dodger is badass!!
One of my friends in college ben, his grandfather is a Vietnam Medal of Honor Recipient - Navy Seal & Nebraska's 35th U.S Senator Bob Kerry, Gaduated (BUD'S) class 42 in December 1967 served with Rodger Hayden in Vietnam when I had the GREAT HONOR to meet Bob, he chatted & talked with me and his grandson for hours about vietnam and he talked alot about a guy named Rodger, he talked about him like he was some sort of a superhero! He said he was one of the best soilders he ever served with and knew, which is an extremely impressive thing to have said about you by a Vietnam Medal of Honor recipient!!!
He also said I sure am glad he was on our side! Lol he said he use to call him Rodger the Dodger, because he was always dodging them bullets lol
I'm so stupid that I didn't realize until halfway into this podcast when Rodger talked about serving with buds class 40,41 & parts of 42 & 43 is when I realized that this was the rodger that my friends grandfather had been talking about all those years ago when he sat and told us all those stories. Lol
That's pretty fuckin wild! Thanks for sharing
Awesome story, thanks for sharing with everyone!
Good story, thanks.
That’s so awesome. Yes, thank you for sharing. These guys are just studs
Hey do us a solid and ask your friend to ask his grandfather to come onto Jocko's podcast as well as contact Jocko on social media to make it happen lol. PLEASE, SIR THANK YOU, That's how General Mukoyama got onto Jocko's podcast - his son reached out on Twitter
My pops was a door gunner in HA(L)-3 Seawolves in the delta...they flew these guys (SEAL) to ops and such. The stories I heard growing up. Rest in peace pops (retired Chief) and thx to all those who have served!!!
DOOR GUNNER?!
Jesus Christ man!!! That’s a rough time!
Mad respect for those guys, that shit is DANGEROUS.
Your Dad had balls of steal! Fuckin Door Gunner!!
Jesus you Americans are hard as a coffin nail. Respect from Ireland
The United States of America was baptized in the fires of war, it's been fighting ever since.
I’d say Ireland is pretty damn tough too knowing a little bit of the history!
adam morin hey man the French army is some puss but the French resistance during ww2. Holy shit they were bad
@@Memento--Mori Yeah.... Except for the fact that now you fight wars because you've spent the last 100 years pissing in everyone else's cornflakes and starting wars where there need not be any, and you guys are usually the ones to fire the first shots, which is not a virtuous action to say the least. The only enemies you guys have are the enemies that you manufactured yourself by pissing people off the world-over.
To add... America hasn't won a war in literally over 60 years. You guys are great at starting wars these days, it seems, but you are really bad at winning them. As you said, you guys have been fighting wars since your inception. You'd think you guys would have learned how to actually win a war, given all the "practice" you've had at it. As a nation, America needs to tread real fucking soft at this point, or else they're gonna find themselves in a real shit-fight that they no longer possess the capability to win, and they will lose *badly*.
I know not when, where or how the third World War will happen, but one thing I do know is that we (meaning members of NATO) will not come out on the winning side of it, if there even is a winning side at that point. Mutually-Assured-Destruction is still in the play-books at this point, keep in mind. In a true Peer-Force war, which America has not experienced since Korea, If things are going bad enough in "conventional operations" for one side or the other, with a war that big going on, it's almost inevitable that the "losing" side will go Nuclear. It's the logic of "if we go down, all of you go down too. All the way down."
So I must say.... Stop poking the bear you fools! You will not come out on the winning side if this new Cold War goes hot.
US Marine here, Irishmen are tough as nails
Dos Equis got the wrong spokesman.
The MEX-BEER..??
Lmfao i was thinking the same thing
Puro Dos Equis
The second guy only lasted 2 commercials. Guess he wasn't that interesting
Should be Tim Dillon next 😂
This is truly incredible to listen to. I don't know why exactly but I keep coming back to this podcast every year like a clockwork for 3 years now. Usually I listen to podcasts as I'm doing some other tasks, but few minutes into listening to Roger Hayden's stories and I just forget what I was doing and focus up because I don't want to miss a second of this riveting interview. Thanks Mr. Hayden and Jocko :) I'll keep coming back to it and others.
"We are the Gods of hell fire and we bring you fire".....that is the greatest story. Jocko was even laughing.
Well we learned from Charlie Plumb and Bill Reader, pilots have no sense of humor.
could be related to this
ruclips.net/video/FaHEusBG20c/видео.html
Stephen Partridge that has got to be one of the greatest combat lines I've ever heard or read. Priceless.
Believe that was taking from a song from iron butterfly
Ryan Lewis can you elaborate? Curious cause I’m from KY...you suggesting a dude named Dylan was a/the pilot?
This dude hasn’t just lived a movie, he’s lived a fucking 12 part mini series with an extended cut plus 5 hours of special bonus footage. Fucking insane
Swearing incessantly is a poor quality of a man
@@theimperialfistsspacemarin3050So is judging people
@@llq4ever309 advising is not
"We hit these two hooches and guys came out... It was like the OK Corral except we won."
~Roger Hayden, Body Stacker, 2017
Coop goddamn I read that as he said it what the fuck
Bruised Browneye same dude 😂
@@Homelessgrunt Same... WTF
Viewer: "Hey Jocko, got a first date coming up and was wondering if you got any tips for me?"
Jocko: "Fire and Maneuver"
Leap frog off that beach
you gotta stiffffle those emotions
Hugely underrated comment
First date? Good. Nervous? No factor, Get after it.
Start training Jujitsu.
When legends have legendary conversations about their legendary war stories
Same........
Break out the Stoners and 60s, Hayden is back.
Hayden brings the thunder!!!!
S S I don't think you know what the comment means...
He has no idea
Stoner 63 dude, look it up.
S S kinda like judging a work by it's prologue. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Hint... it's a gun. A big man gun.
Roger Hayden is one of my favorite guests. It's great to see Jocko with one of his heroes.
That is one humble warrior. Elite yet modest, that's what makes the best appealing.
6 dudes was so shook they accidentally hit the dislike button.
@Coke Dogg 194 now, damn commies.
Sooo... where have you been during the COVID19 outbreak Waldo?
Found ya
Lol
@@keithlaham7593 by io
You are an inspiration Jocko and I hope you keep making these videos. I suffer from depression and am working on my weight loss, started at 300 and am down to 288, working hard everyday and remembering what you said about setting lots of short term goals and keep trying to meet them. You are very strong mentally and it sure is nice to be able to get advice from someone like yourself. Thank you for your service in the military and god bless your heart. You are a wonderful human being and wish there were more people like you in this world. Thank you
JamieGoldFan2006 keep at it. We are here for you
Keep pushing, you should be extremely proud of that weight loss! Find those around you that can help push and motivate you, as well. Respect from this Marine.
JamieGoldFan2006 keep getting after it. I'm on a similar path. this is all I listen to at work.
Awesome job! I hope you stayed on path and wonder if you'll update us.
I hope it is still going great for you. Keep up the work. I am right there with you on the weight loss side.
Recently lost my high school JROTC instructor. Airborne Ranger, Vietnam vet., absolute fucking legend like so many others. I feel this podcast is sent by him from Beyond. RIP 1SG.
45:29 Just some shrapnel in my foot and leg, no big thing. Just got back up and kept shooting.
How did Vietnam have enough room for all the massive balls swinging around?
they split Vietnam in 2 LOL
@@Spiffy35 I know I'm a year late but even though they split it in half you've got badasses on both sides with massive pairs dude so the question still remains 🤣🤣
we are in the presence of great men, gentleman.
Amen
Jocko you are one of the most respectful individuals I’ve ever listened to. You have your own stories, your own battles, and you let this gentleman talk like you have never seen war. Thank you.
Please, more Vietnam SEALs if possible.
MORE HAYDEN NOW
Frogman not SEALs. An ancient powerful relic that resides in folk lores... 20th century Spartans
Santa jumped down Roger”s chimney, and was never seen again.
As a former member of the United States military I say thanks to unsung heroes like Roger Hayden.
Jocko bringing Jiu Jitsu mats to a war zone...priceless
I know this guest is a highly decorated badass and has seen some crazy stuff but he is the coolest older gent I've ever seen. The way he talks and tells stories can be super funny. Could listen to him all day. Awesome episode!
I love how he tells the craziest story but it’s just so laid back
My dad was a Vietnam vet that has now passed on so these stories are great to hear and helps paint a picture of what things were like. Thanks for having him on .
God bless
Thank god for people like Mr Janney
New drinking game Take a drink every time roger Hayden says " know what I mean " lolOne of my favorite guests on here, guy is a total badass
Stevie Ethridge lmao I was thinking the same thing. Complete badass though
i know what you mean hahahahaha
I have no idea what he means but I am DIALED IN. Guy is the MAN.
Or goddamn hahaha
Watching for the first time in 2023. I feel very lucky to live in a time where RUclips and podcasts exist. I learned a lot .
"Americans are Americans, we fight..." Yessir!
My pops was a Coms guy in Vietnam (Marines). Thank to all of you and anyone who served. In any theater.
Aye my dad carried a radio in the desert!
Mad Respect to your Dads
WE ARE THE GODS OF HELLFIRE AND WE BRING YOU FIRE
Song for those wondering: ruclips.net/video/FaHEusBG20c/видео.html Live performance: ruclips.net/video/en1uwIzI3SE/видео.html
FIRE 🔥
No big thing
Dude, it’s like a DND session. Idek if there’s any other response other that “WTF”
lmao im a fan of new zealanders
He's a quiet, unassuming bad ass. Another great podcast.
Thank you for the honor of letting us hear the story of an American hero such as Roger Hayden! Great chat!
Roger looks like that "old" dude that beat the hell out of that guy on a bus a few years ago hahaha. King Kong ain't got nothing on me! LOL! He looks like he's in pretty good shape for a guy his age. We should thank God for guys like him!
BayBeats831 Oh, hell ya I'm finding that! It's always entertaining to see a young pup getting put in his place for that level of disrespect. With Rocky Music... epic. HAHA!
BayBeats831 HAHAHA! Just checked it out. That was good lol!
LGZEE lol, he does a little bit doesn't he
Is that the one with the ambalamps?
HAHA I think so. There are a bunch of them, but the one I checked out was the one with some "lets get ready to rumble" clip in the middle. I've heard black dudes and white dudes talk crap back in forth and just think it's funny how the old dude says "o no you won't" and he wasn't kidding hahaha. I know guys that I worked with in a pack house that were just like him. Respect get respect.
What a great podcast. It's a real privilege to hear Hayden reflect back on his experiences from "BACK IN THE DAY!!!"
I could listen to hayden tell stories all day
Good evening.. Decided to go with the Canadian Forces instead of being a cop.. I guess you could say this podcast was one of the things that helped that decision..
Jay lol been seriously considering the reserves because of this podcast. I mean it probably won't go beyond the research point but.. can't help but wanna get after it when listening to jocko
Robert Leduc yeah, I was teetering on the edge between LE and the Infantry and decided who the hell am I kidding? I'm going with the Army..
Jay decided to join the infantry instead of becoming a cop as well
That is pretty awesome. Crush it!
@@06livefast hey my friend , I just watched the video , I was wondering if you did get in the CAF ? and how'd it go ! - I was in the CAF myself for 9 months(infantry) and going back in 3 months !
Roger looks like he could still do some damage...
Rgr that
I bet he holds a 45 like a god still
I know a sf sniper whose 81 and I wouldn't fuck with him
Roger in a covid zombie apocalypse is Bill from Left 4 Dead.
Seems like a presence in a room... Then you realize who he is and that all the things you know he did are shadowed by the shit he did still marked classified. Lol
Reminds me of my Dad who's was a Marine in Vietnam from 67 to 73. I was in the Army 06 through 10 but I never saw real action but these guys they have and I give them all my love in respect
This podcast is, part 1 and 2, my personal favorites so far! This man is so casual and funny telling the op stories that, it's obvious that this is his element along with his team. Vietnam was the war where alot of my friends had served and some returned and others not. They deserve the respect and thanks for their Warrior spirits and for doing what nobody else would do.
I could listen to this gentleman and his life experiences for weeks and never get bored. Much respect and appreciation for you and the men like you, for what you have done in the service for this country.
2nd time listening btw lol
mr. Hayden is back, today is a good day
Thank you Mr Hayden for coming on with Jocko and Echo. A real BTF, never did ANY media. Luckily for us, a bad ass retired seal is producing podcasts to bring out the legends like Mr Hayden. Thank you!
Damn, this guy has an impeccable memory. Respect.
So much stories lost in history, it's useful and nice to have these stories tell and shared
I hope this guy's grandkids and great grandkids will appreciate that he did this interview
This man is STILL a Warrior, make no mistake about that! And he’s only “touched” on a few simple questions of what he’s experienced as a SEAL and Wartime. I salute you my friend, you’re a rare breed who deserves all our Military has to offer. Thanks Jocko....
The respect jocko has for this man is vast as hell. He could talk to him all day everyday.
You know this old Seal is a legend when you can tell Jocko is humbled to be in front of him .
Mr Hayden is easily one of my favorite episodes. Would love to see him come back. God bless.
He passed
I've listened to all the podcasts, and Roger Hayden has been one of the most captivating guests. I watched podcast 77 twice consecutively and hope for a third appearance.
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Roger is such a man. Notice when he breaks down just for a second..then quickly recovers. I hope to be strong like him someday.
This was awesome! Guests like Hayden make the podcasts that much better. I wish Jocko would bring in more military guys from different branches: tankers, electronic warfare guys and even some cold war era spy dudes.
cold war spies? how many of those do u know😂
@@king1k463 lmao right? Even if he did know them, they ain't coming on any podcast. Tradecraft ain't military.
Thank You for not letting these stories be lost in the sands of time
Every time I listen to this I hear him say “I think I told you” and in my head I’m just no please tell me more. Thank you for interviewing these real American Heroes.
Man I just love how we just goes from story to story not stopping. Seems like he’s reliving great memories.
Jocko is the best at talking to these guys
That PT gear story just helped so many kids sneak back into their house in the morning lol
I'm not a soldier. Not a fighter by any means or measure. Yet... I can listen to this all day.
FIRSTLY, I want to thank Warrant Officer Hayden!! What a Salty Stud! Very very VERYYYYYYYYY Humble and loved thank you so so soooooooo much.
I can tell Jocko is just enthralled and lost by this Frogmans stories and speeches.
Fu*k I love this man. We are so lucky to be blessed with his presence.
Everyone that's listening to this podcast are unbelievably fortunate to listen to this man.
this is so important...the golden nuggets he interjects into the stories. He is one of one make sure to follow and remember him and his words.
Damn listen to how us men should be, grow the fu*k up!!
Stop whining and be a role model. Thank you so very much!!!!!!
Thanks for posting these interviews, these dudes are national treasures!
I love it.
Damn. Men like roger here are the reason America is so great. Humble. Honest. Funny. Total badass. Great show.
Hes truly an American Hero, "you know what i mean".
Thank you Gentlemen for all the great knowledge and experience passing down. Its incredible to hear what was going with all those that came before me.
I just gotta say and start off with thank you to every service man and women who serve, served, or sacrificed everything and to their families aswell!
Also Jocko, Echo, and all others on the podcast i thank you guys for helping me stay focused and keepimg me in the game at work cause its a shitty environment but i get a serious feeling of success knowing everyday is a glorious day because I'm free and able to keep trying to make myself better every single day, and for the laughs i get every now and then listening to these great podcast and the historical knowledge i learn aswell!!
You guys are awesome and always will be my moral boosters and mentors to me to keep going and that discipline and success comes from my own heart and my own battles and soon i too will be right there where i want to be soon!!
Unfortunately for me i have a medical disability that recruiter's turn me away Immediately, but i promise to keepup the fight here at home the best i can and i will never quit until the bitter end, thank you for the lessons and the moral boost!!
Hayden , Meyers , The Frenchman and Dick Thomason ... legendary 👍🏻and epic 👏
So awesome to hear this man, literally no bullshit. Just a straight shooter all around.
This probably the most humbling thing I have ever listened to. Normally I just do stuff and listen to the podcast on the background. But this podcast, after 30 minutes, has me saving it for a cool night and a good whiskey. I just can't believe some of this stuff actually happened
I could listen to this guy tell war stories all day. I hope you get him back on again
bang bang people dieing bullets flying,,,,,,,Mr.Hayden say's " It was a pretty good op"
“No big thing”
Jake M just like dick Thompson. “Just another day in SOG.
"Just don't bore me"
AWESOME! This Podcast is so damn addicting... best thing to happen to RUclips since cat videos.
Thank you all for your service!
Hitting dislike on a Jocko podcast should be considered Treason!
There’s 364 treasonous fuckers as of 12/10
@@teddysalad8227 367 as of 12/23
WTF?? HOW'S THAT?
Over 500.. all isis members
@@queasyislander0274 6/20/21 623 treasonous fuckers
he says "know what I mean" like a brother.
Im so fired up to cut my yard right now, its unbelievable ! Peace !
Get after it!
GET IT
Drop that shit
Mow em down! Lol
Don't get too excited and chase down the neighbor on your mower lol.
"Yeah, I was just out for a run."
You da man, Jocko! :D
I love this old guy's personality. Aggressive as fuck. Sharp as a tack. Total go-getter. Really enjoyed this episode.
Very very humbling to listen to these guys who have laid their lives on the line for the red white n blue. All my respects and gratitude 🙏🙌
Beware of an old man in a profession where young men die.
Haha thats good
“Dang it” Man.
Did you make that up yourself? I like it! I’m going to steal that from you if you don’t mind? Haha
@@brandonmartin1361 I forgot where I heard it but it's not original.
That's a humbling quote
Thank you for your service
This man is a stud among studs. Nothing but respect. Thank You sir.
Without people like these guys America would be in ruins. We need guys like them
we need a marine raider on the show!
Thank you for doing this podcast. Hearing the stories of our brave service members is amazing. God bless America and our service members
I think its crazy that guys like echo Charles and mike tyson have such polite unassuming voices
I loved that story of Roger Hayden eating in the Chief's Mess. Roger eats where Roger wants to eat. Very cool.
This was a great podcast. You know what I mean
Absolutely. It was another outstanding podcast from Jocko and I love hearing stories from the Vietnam veterans. Roger Hayden is one badass dude.
I could listen to this all day. So facinating, so much respect for these men.
Thank god for these interviews. They will last for eternity.
What a treat to have him back. Another fantastic guest Jocko.
Jocko get Devon Larratt on! Canadian special forces deployed to Iraq like 7 times, one of the arguably greatest arm wrestler of all time and now he is about to box Thor after Eddie hall got hurt would love to hear his stories
Wow that was incredible thanks to all of you for the free video, shared knowledge and of course your service! AWESOME podcast!
I love listening to these stories man really makes you humble and appreciative as well.
I Love the story of Roger fighting the boxer who just got out of jail . Wild hahaha
This was the best podcast I’ve ever heard. I’m going through all of your most viewed podcasts and this one was my favorite. Why does it not have more views?
Who gives a crap. This is gold.
Man I love Echo on these podcasts, some of it is his kind of civvy take on a lot of things but also on a cast like this where he just sits back and listens to a couple legends shoot the shit. Every now and then you hear him laugh but he doesn't cut in or anything.
Man, two and half hours isn't enough. You guys could tell stories for five hours and I would listen to the whole thing. Great stuff!