I love Svelte. I hate that people somehow expect it to behave how React behaves. That doesn't make any sense. It's not React why are you expecting to behave like React. It's Svelte. That's the whole point. Whenever I see comparison videos it's always React does this but Svelte doesn't. Well why should it. 😂 The whole point of creating a different framework is to do something different. The whole point of Svelte is to not be React
People who say that are probably very comfortable with React, and they hit walls in Svelte and are frustrated that their React knowledge does not translate. Been there, cramming new stuff in your brain isn't always easy.
I just switch from ReactJS to Svelte for a very simple experience, in Svelte, I see what I do but in ReactJS, I cannot, it just add more complex thing into well basic HTML code.
I did several projects with native php, plain js, lesscss. (Pretty old..), I wished to be able to rewrite my code to JS frameworks such Reactjs, Vuejs, Laravel, but never did. When I saw this.. Svelte... wow, very interesting! looks suitable for an old-school programmer like me.
My guess is you come from a React background. In React, every library needs a wrapper to work, because React isn't really javascript, it does its on thing. As the other comment pointed out, Svelte is just javascript. You can use any vanilla javascript library in Svelte no problem. The fact that React needs a wrapper for libraries tells you how bad of an abstraction it is.
For me vue is the best, I like writing html and bring some js when I need, and compared to svelte I don't even have to do that ejs kind of looping, doesn't make sense to me.
@@RaZziaN1 it’s still the most popular web framework tho. And even if svelte is the “most beloved” on stack overflow , that doesn’t show or translate actual jobs. React is still the framework to learn if one wants to get a job fast
From what I've seen it's bigger in the independent dev communities not so much the industry engineers. I use it for all my freelance web jobs. I love it!
@@Kats0unam1 Exactly! If you want a job, learn React. If you want to build your own software use whatever framework you enjoy. The simplicity of Svekltekit is a lot of fun to use and is quick to build with! The biggest gripe people usually have with it / other frameworks is there is a lot less open source components and tools to use compared to React but I think that's just a matter of time.
There is no question that, today, React is king when it comes to getting a job. That will slowly change. But, if you and I are startups creating similar product offerings, please, I wish you to use React.
I love Svelte. I hate that people somehow expect it to behave how React behaves. That doesn't make any sense. It's not React why are you expecting to behave like React. It's Svelte. That's the whole point. Whenever I see comparison videos it's always React does this but Svelte doesn't. Well why should it. 😂 The whole point of creating a different framework is to do something different. The whole point of Svelte is to not be React
People who say that are probably very comfortable with React, and they hit walls in Svelte and are frustrated that their React knowledge does not translate. Been there, cramming new stuff in your brain isn't always easy.
This was a wonderful overview. I love the clarity of the syntax. And I can’t believe how much was done with so little code. Wow!
Glad you enjoyed it!
He’s so clam. I have a feeling he’s a master in meditation 🧘♂️
Nothing like being clam!
Very clam
I just switch from ReactJS to Svelte for a very simple experience, in Svelte, I see what I do but in ReactJS, I cannot, it just add more complex thing into well basic HTML code.
I did several projects with native php, plain js, lesscss. (Pretty old..), I wished to be able to rewrite my code to JS frameworks such Reactjs, Vuejs, Laravel, but never did. When I saw this.. Svelte... wow, very interesting! looks suitable for an old-school programmer like me.
because if you ever touch Svelte, maintaining projects that using other "framework" feels like pain
Lack of libraries is one problem for Svelte at the moment
My guess is you come from a React background. In React, every library needs a wrapper to work, because React isn't really javascript, it does its on thing.
As the other comment pointed out, Svelte is just javascript. You can use any vanilla javascript library in Svelte no problem.
The fact that React needs a wrapper for libraries tells you how bad of an abstraction it is.
This was a great convo! Would looooove svelte slice machine support! 😄
Hmm, it doesn’t have it right now?
Vite is fast this did not age well, now even Vite conf saying Vite is slow :D
That laugh at c#
Can Svelte use packages from npm?
How about micro python & pip? My dream
Yes, it can use packages from npm. It itself is installed as a npm package
My personal framework is pure javascript and it doesn't require compiler and runs 200% faster and 10% smaller than svelte even in Localhost,
Earlier I worked with React & Next.Js.. But now feel comfortable with Svelte and Sveltekit
For me vue is the best, I like writing html and bring some js when I need, and compared to svelte I don't even have to do that ejs kind of looping, doesn't make sense to me.
Great 👍
Is it tho ? It seems everyone is still talking about React.
It's not, react was popular 3 years ago and its not so hot topic anymore. It's just clickbait in both cases.
@@RaZziaN1 it’s still the most popular web framework tho. And even if svelte is the “most beloved” on stack overflow , that doesn’t show or translate actual jobs. React is still the framework to learn if one wants to get a job fast
From what I've seen it's bigger in the independent dev communities not so much the industry engineers. I use it for all my freelance web jobs. I love it!
@@Kats0unam1 Exactly! If you want a job, learn React. If you want to build your own software use whatever framework you enjoy. The simplicity of Svekltekit is a lot of fun to use and is quick to build with! The biggest gripe people usually have with it / other frameworks is there is a lot less open source components and tools to use compared to React but I think that's just a matter of time.
There is no question that, today, React is king when it comes to getting a job. That will slowly change. But, if you and I are startups creating similar product offerings, please, I wish you to use React.