-forgot to add this, my b. mentioned in another comment, Bennet actually does buff more than c0r0 kazuha for atk scalers by like a 1-3%ish with fav bennet vs 950 kazu from my testing. and as we saw how shred actually does get diminishing returns after we hit negative shred, bennet + kazu/xilo may be better that kazu + xilo in certain cases. just keep ^^ in mind 🙂 -for Geo, i totally forgot Yelan existed. she 100% can be put in for bennet and probs is the better option too. -You can also double crystalize if using the the benny XQ trick for ur pyro dps, but it wont work for hydro dps’ like childe cuz ur not using yelan/XQ - another viewer mentioned how Geo/ crystalize” has a “Team wide icd of 1 shard per second.” this means this setup while possible will require u to do a rotation like edit- xingqiu eq, benny eq, xilo skill(pyro crystalize), wait, basic basic( hydro crystalize) -mentioned in a comment, c0 plunge hutao is 1 cost cheaper than say a c1 hutao + xilonen (impacting cost and comfort) so keep that in mind 👍
You can not double crystallize and get 40% DMG bonus for both element. Crystallize has a reaction ICD, you need to use the burst to apply 2 1U geo and that means you can't weave Xq/Yelan because u have to use Q during E to get the full bonus. As a general thing, full double Scroll is not happening because of crystallize ICD, geo inaptitude to remove 1U aura (u have to somehow deplete it before) and u have to EQN2 to get 2 apps DURING Nightsoul state
Just saw the edit, Xilo EN2Q is not doing anything. The XQ weave from N1 is removing pyro but not applying, and Q outside of E state would be 12% for 15s if u somehow manage to get hydro anyway (with cope orbitals 🔥). Just get pyro double crystallize is not a thing here.
@@nicobiche It is possible :) I just did it using ninguang and actually just did 2 basic attacks which was actually enough to get both a pryo and hydro shard. Just did the basic xingqiu ult bennet burst skill then basic basic. Just gotta be careful of not touching the enemy with the rainswords or else pyro aura disappears.(much easier with yelan i assume). I recorded it just in case you would like proof. ur right on how we shouldnt be burst at the end. unfortunatly we dont have the gauge for the burst so idk if we can do skill, burst, basic basic for it to work as well. also, the basic which causes crystalize + the rainswords should override pyro and apply hydro 👍
Yeah I am looking to get her for my Neuvillette Kaz Funrina team…. If she is really gonna make the team even better, I’m all in. My Baizhu can go to another team 😅
@@Akash11898 i think it will be, but her could benefit more from hydro aplication in supports as Yelan or Xinqiu, and Benett buff.... maybe Furina, Xilonen, Yun Jin, Arlechino will do the job whatever you try to clear.
xilonen will be an upgrade in definitive mualani teams, neuv teams, and thats about it. Not even joking, most teams want kazuha more often at c0r0 due to already haveing a usable healer and wanting grouping, having kazuhas damage equal 15% of overall team damage and more.
itll really depend on the team and situation id say. but the main draw of her imo is how she can replace the heal slot and buff, which most of our healers dont buff dmg currently
for ayaka's freeze/cryo teams, i do wonder how the loss of the second cryo unit would impact energy. of course you can run xilo on fav, but ayaka already tends to have 120-135 er needs with the cryo battery, so her higher er needs in those teams might lower the difference between the older options and xilo
super true. I currently use 116 er ganyu, furina, kazu, fav charlotte. i dont have any issues currently so moving to fav xilo i think wouldnt be an issue for me. BUT, if ur saying that ayaka still needs that much ER with a cryo support, that indeed may decrease the dmg increase by a lil bit
Im a c6 dehya main since her release and doing the furina bennett kazuha team has been quite a pain getting the pyro swirl from kazuha e while his burst is hydro infused. Unfortunately i dont think xilonen will fix that replacing kazuha for her since I'd lose hydro application even tho the res shred is more consistent... but maybe I'd be able to run an attack goblet and drop bennett but then I'd still be missing a LOT of atk since her base atk isnt super high. Maybe I'd also have to swap from hp to atk sands but at the end of the day I'll just throw it in genshin optimizer and find out lol
im planning to build dehya finally cuz why the hek not. but yah, the furina benny kazu team can be such a pain. when doing what i call the “short” rotation, i just only do bennet e burst, kazuha skill, and furina skill burst. i find it much more consistent, so while i dont get as high of a ceiling with cuz no c2 kazu, it is still a gud set up for my arle. and honestly, screw hydro application from kazu burst anyway 😞
@@yun3_ well the thing is i need kazu burst for hydro or else dehya burst starts to out apply furinas E. So eventually by the end of my dehya burst I'm playing vape furina instead of reverse vape dehya which isn't what i want. So kazuha hydro infused burst solves that issue
@@DaiPai1777 ah ok. i generally expect me missing forward vapes on this team when using arle but i understand if you’d want to not miss vapes for her burst. im satisfied with the dmg bonus generally so dont mind too much if i miss a vape or two
@@yun3_ yeah like its not the biggest deal and its funny to see furina doing like 100k+ vapes here and there. But i want my 100k+'s to be from dehya haha. She's always been the very first character i make sure i clear abyss with every reset and now imaginarium theater as the final team used on the last stage. Mualani might be part 2 of that so xilonen probably going with her
I'm very grateful for this video. Reading about her kit I understood that her support capabilities were amazing but I've been spektical about putting her in my teams. In the best way she's giving sidegrade.
I was thinking about using her with yunjin and furina for a weird wet rock team for my ayato lol I know he's not the best dps out there, but I really like playing with him
@@ashuelette yes she would :) so the two geos on the team would be xilonen and chiori. as long as the last slot is PHEC element, which siegwinne falls under, u should be fine
Bro Xilonen can res shred multi wave enemies but kazuha can only res shred those enemies he swirl so you don't have to worry about losing cc with kazuha Also kazuha is basically useless when fighting with aura enemies but xilonen can res sherd and heal (I think xilonen might be better than kazuha with every scenario unless you already have great healing in your team and your kazuha needs to do elemental reaction or simply does big numbers btw why care about sup dps when you can replace you're sustainability character to a sup dps like xingqui if you already have xilonen. maby kazuha is better if you can double swirl and your sup dps does same amount of dmg as your main dps or better but most in teams main dps always does more dmg so it's probably very unlikely)
it really depends. in teams that you can a) double swirl and b) are split almost 50/50 dmg between two elements (mainly stuff like international), kazuha still is a bigger buff. i know you mentioned it, but kazu's dmg in reaction teams aggravate/electrocharge IS quite large, and those teams typically already have good healers, yaoyao/baizhu and kokomi respectively, so you don't need to swap anyone out since you get more than just sustain from your sustain. in addition, while recent abyss has been 3/4 waves per side, the next few seem to be moving back in the direction of 1/2 waves, meaning multi-wave is less of an issue. at the same time, there are also fewer enemies per wave in the next few rotations, so to be fair cc will also be less important. still, there are teams like ayaka freeze who really need the grouping (even when the enemies are fairly close together) since the majority of the team's dmg is ayaka's burst and while it isn't tiny, it doesn't have the biggest range. against innate aura enemies, she definitely outperforms him, but there just aren't that many enemies like that since they mess with far more teams than just kazu's. i think it'll really just be a situation of it depends based on the team/content.
How good would she be for Bennett, a hydro, (Xilonen), and Arlecchino? Is the damage increase really that high? I want to know if I can go for Kinich cons, but if Xilonen is really op I’ll consider pulling her
I would say for a arlechinno, it would be equivalentish to kazuha in that slot. for xingqiu, doing a double crystalize may be harder to do than the tradtional kazu double swirl set up, so u may not get the hydro dmg bonus. but like overall, its gonna be very strong imo
the damage overall would be the same bc they provide the same buffs. If you want to like only upgrade this team, maybe not worth the pulls. but if u say wanna use kazuha or xilonen else where, then i think it’s a good idea. ex. me personally, i use arle,furina, kazu, and benny. but with xilonen, i can move my kazoo to my aggravate team. feel free to ask questions, i dont mind 👍
in multi target scenarios couldnt you apply one element one one enemy then apply another on the other and then xilo can E>Na both to proc double scroll bonus? for e.g. arle skill then yelan EQ on one enemy > xilo E NA NA > bennett
@@yun3_ what is your thoughts on this rotation: arle E>xilo E>yelan EQ>xilo E> bennett EQ>arle combo. Since the scroll buff lasts a while. Not sure if yelan burst will have enough time tho. And xilo on sac sword.
I personally think if u took out the second xilonen E, itd be a pretty solid set up. I know we dont get the hero set for hydro but it should be fine cuz arle is a majority of the damage. this way, u can also run sig or fav on her while also speeding up ur rotation time :)
This a copy and paste from another comment I made. for (raiden, xq/yelan, benny, xiangling) -may be a slight upgrade in rational if u take out bennet. xq will do more cuz he doesnt get bennet buff off field. XL dmg probs stays the same as she only gets res shred and no dmg% (unless u do a double crystalize setup). while raiden will do more dmg. overall, it should be a buff :)
@@yun3_ If i do that then i will have energy problems with xiangling specially single target. So is it worth it I have c1 r0 yelan, xl c6, bennet c6, and f2p ridan
though i believe raiden should battery xiangling, i understand if she cant. if you normally use bennet to battery, a fav xilonen should work just fine. I want to say that if you want to specifically pull for this team, it’s not the biggest upgrade in the world, but she still is a great unit to have. i will say i generally have XL at 240 er and still feel like thats barely enough sometimes
I'm thinking Navia pyro. Also, very excited to do triple cryo with Shenhe and that crazy Xilonen C2. Between Shenhe and Xilonen, every potentail damaging stat is buffed like crazy.
I'd probably use Ganyu, Shenhe, Xilonen, Layla. Far from optimal, but it has a lot of my favorite characters. Right now, one of my abyss teams is that, but with Mona. C2 Xilonen will be a strict upgrade even without freeze, I'm sure. What I like about that team is that it can clear with burst damage alone. It's fun to just throw a lot of big AOE circles and watch everything die. (Takes heavily invested characters to be even passable, though.)
navia is iffy, depending on how ti goes kachina can actually beat navia due to crystalize shard generation and it also depends on the enemy geo res. Navia with kachian basically means around 20%-15% more damage just from an extra 5 ish shards.
Yup! Like furina, it's like she's tailor made to go with noelle. Furina, gorou and Xilonen buffing noelle. i'm predicting ~70k damage per hit in spin to win with c2 r1 (up from 55 using kachina), and all normals above 100k damage rather than just the last one. and furina also gets a huge boost. dps is going to the moon. but this is overkill, i will probably not use her and furina on the same team most of the time.
For the double Pyro double Hydro, it's worth mentioning that Hu Tao, Gaming and Diluc all lack off field Pyro application (especially Hu Tao). So, if you compare Kazu and Xilonen on this archetype Kazuha does nothing for the Pyro dps while Xilonen, although not being able to activate the Hero set, can at least Pyro shred, resulting in higher total damage. As for Xianyun, as you mentioned it, it's hard for plunge focused teams to trade her for Xilonen, but it's fine for Hu Tao (the biggest Pyro winner on Xilonen's release). For Mono Pyro, she is pretty much a sidegrade bc one of her main strenghts is covering the healer slot, which isn't necessary if you run Bennett. On quickbloom teams, I actually don't think Baizhu can be that easily replaced because all the three quickbloom dpses that you mentioned (Cyno, Clorinde and Yae) do get punished a lot for being interrupted. Although Xilonen buffs more, Baizhu's constant shields can be a damage increase however, especially for NA spammers, as their biggest hits come from the last hits of their NA combo. It's also worth considering Cyno's high uptime on burst, which doesn't sync well with Nahida's application but has high synergy with Baizhu's. At C1 and especially at C2 (which creates a lot of sinergies and possibilities for Cyno's team building) she's prob Cyno's best teammate in all of his teams, but before that it's hard to tell. As for mono teams, she is prob the best support in the game atm (and at C2 she is THE mono team support). Other mono teams variants besides Pyro and Hydro are now possible with her, since she also covers the sustain slot. Mono Electro Xilonen with Sara + 2 damage dealers and mono Cryo Xilonen with Shenhe + 2 damage dealers. Before her, if you wanted to run mono Cryo you were stuck with Diona (or another Cryo sustain), now even though you ain't running Kazu (worth mentioning, as Shenhe's Quills procs on Kazu's swrils), you can run a sub dps to cover the extra damage slot and make better use of Shenhe's buffs. As for the mono Electro, well, it just wasn't possible, now it might be viable, we'll see. As for mono Geo (if they don't change it), at C2 she can be played in mono Geo and triple Geo. However, on these teams specifically her BiS artifact should be Songs of Days Past (unless if you run triple Geo with a good elemental applicator in the last slot; still, Hero doesn't work on pure Mono Geo). Since she has pretty absurd healing multipliers, she can easily reach the 15000 cap from the 4p set, which translates to 1200 extra base damage bonus (works similar to Shenhe's and Yunjin's buffs). Even though the effect is shared with all teammates, she can reliably proc it twice per ult, which is a 12k base damage increase in total. If you consider C4 (which works the same way), a 4k def Xilonen (which is easily reachable with 3 def main stats + a def weapon + 0-3 def substats) gives 2600 flat base damage bonus, which combined with SoDP 4p makes 3800 in total (for reference, that's equivalent to a C0 Shenhe with 4.6k and lvl 10 skill). So yeah, at C4 she's not only the best support for Mono Geo but also a WAY MORE strong Shenhe (as she can give almost 4k flat damage bonus + 45% res shred + 50% dmg bonus from C2 + 36% dmg bonus from weapon).
@@JoseGramatico goated comment. the only think id say is during the aggravate part, chloride actually has high built in interruption resist while miko doesnt lose too much from being hit ngl with her totems doing a lot of the dmg. BUT, cyno def needs the help from a baizhu or c1 xilo ;-;
@@yun3_ iirc Clorinde high interruption res comes from C2 and C6, idk if she has any at base :\ As for Yae it does depend bc she can be interrupted while still casting, so sometimes it translates to damage loss (but yeah, nothing major) Cyno is the one who suffers the most bc of how his kit works, so it's hard to replace Baizhu on his teams Btw, also another key point for mono Geo (and mono Cryo): At C4 her buffing capabilities are stronger than a C0-C5 Shenhe for Mono Cryo, as well as comparable to a C6 Shenhe if your team is not too NA based (since if you use too many skills Shenhe's Quills still run off). At C6 you can run triple Geo Furina in any Geo DEF scaller team besides Noelle's (as she already can since she has teamwide healing built into her kit): Itto, Chiori and Albedo. As an Albedo main, for me it would be just damage per screenshot (which is fun but not pratical in the game's current state), however it would be such a huge buff for Itto and for main dps Chiori (especially if you do have a high invested Chiori, with Constellations, etc). So, at C6 imo she is prob the best specialized support we have for one element, while also (pre C6) being insane for a lot of teams, epecially mono teams (which is funny, she actually fitting in all mono teams with such viability besides Anemo and Dendro main dps ones).
@@JoseGramatico awww ur right, it is her friken cons that give IR ;-; gotchu on ur mono element part tho. i will say, thankfully u only need c4 for the max buffing capabilities for those who rly want that. i also bet that c4 can go crazy in some vape/ melt teams
@@yun3_ Yup! C6 is just for Triple Geo Furina other than Noelle + Xilonen main dps, all the other teams can get the max out of her kit at C4 (that might include Melt/Vape NA focused teams) I also saw some people mentioning her sinergy with Yunjin and I hope they actually do have pretty strong sinergy once Xilo goes live, that would make so new many team variations and honestly Xilonen's whole kit (including Constellations) seems so archon level, she's too strong
@@yun3_ Also, I want to say I really do enjoy your content and atm you're prob one of my favs content creators You talk about team building/char building/tc in such a non superficial way and it really stands out to me, not to mention you're one of the few people that consider QoL and consistency (like the Jiaoqiu one, which you talked about debuff uptime), you're doing a great job :)) It's also amazing how you take your time to answer each and every comment everytime, I hope your channel grows even more because you're such a nice person
yess im c6 itto main im sooooo happpy. xilonen i will get her c4 and r1 and save up for r5 her weapon when she reruns with the second weapon in banner is what i want
Im not sure if I should get her bc like I “accidentally” pulled c2 itto while building pity from my gambling addiction 😭 he’s not built at all and I’d rather have his weapon to play him
hi yune!! came back to this vid and i wanted to know if c1 xilonen would be enough interruption res for a c0 neuvi? i always pair my neuvi with zhongli but i plan to replace zhongli later once i get xilonen. im just worried if she can’t provide the comfyness for my neuvi like zhongli can
how though? xilonen can contribute to fanfare stacking before kokomi even hits the field and she doesn’t need to reapply vv when a new wave spawns, her buffs also last longer than Kazuha’s in general. Kazuha’s dps in mono hydro also drops off a cliff since hydro swirls are limited to a singular instance of dmg rather than the usual 2 and his grouping is irrelevant since kokomi mono hydro aready lacks in aoe. Getting Xilonen would also free up Kazuha for another team that would actually use him better.
@@brise848 it’s kokomi, with her healing output and her jellyfish already healing from off field you don’t need a 2nd healer in the slightest, the res shredding a new wave instantly is a nice bonus that might make her a better pick in some scenarios and for the better res uptime I personally have never had issues with VVs 10 second uptime since he’s usually last unit in a rotation before kokomis burst which also lasts 10 seconds. I’m ngl I forgot kazuhas damage falls off in mono-hydro but swirl damage is still there and then xilonens which doesn’t have any off field damage. Now I’d argue using kazuha here frees up xilonen instead she is overall the better unit and the healing makes her a better pick in so many teams just not kokomi mono hydro
@@isac9465 it’s not about needing a second healer it’s about frontloading the fanfare stacks from Furina, having Xilonen’s healing also frees you from circle impact if the enemy happens to move away from Kokomi e during setup. if Furina’s being used first half it’s likely Bennett is already being ran on the other side so Xilonen’s healing is not relevant barring aggravate/freeze teams. Aside from this the only teams where Xilonen is a strict upgrade, is teams where Kazuha’s double swirl setups aren’t possible like double hydro hutao or melt/vape teams against single target. Otherwise Xilonen is just a sidegrade or worse than Kazuha, and unlike mono hydro, Kazuha’s grouping and sub dps will actually be relevant in these other teams.
Bruh, I don’t know what to do anymore 😭. My English is not great because I speak Spanish but I’m in between pulling Raiden c0 or Xilonen c0, it’s a guaranteed in one pull away (77 pity lol) I’m f2p can any of you help me decide pls 😭🙏. (I don’t have Neuvi nor Arle because they skipped me btw)
I personally would say xilonen bc she would be better for you in the long run. I have a c0 raiden and will say she is not rly close to neuvulette, arlechinno, or alhaitham. Raiden is rly good for beginniners i can’t lie, but once u are more invested, raiden imo doesnt do too well. xilonen should be just as good as a kazuha and he has stood the test of time. it may suck not having a good dps for a while, cuz kazuha was my first 5* before i had a 5* dps, but it definitely worth it
@@yun3_ Thx! In any case I also believe Xilonen would do better for me as I’m gonna try pulling either Arle or Neuvi in a future, nevertheless, thanks for giving me a second opinion!
@@rainyxdevil oh yah thats pretty true. so lemme do it here >:) -may be a slight upgrade in rational if u take out bennet. xq will do more cuz he doesnt get bennet buff off field. XL dmg probs stays the same as she only gets res shred and no dmg%. while raiden will do more dmg. -hypercarry raiden, with kazu and sara, shes also can fit the last slot rly well, and no more overload cuz benny boy
I'm stuggling to decide going for xilonen... I feel like making her a dps but don't know if c0 r1 would work well. I want to save my pulls for citlali aswell 😫
If you're mainly planning to make her a dps, i think the biggest factor would be if you have the right team. She doesn't really get a huge dps boost besides c6. If you have furina, gorou, and dongli/albedo/chiori, i don't see an issue in going for this playstyle. (though i must say support xilo will be stronger than dps xilo by quite a bit) or maybe just wait to see how gud dps xilo is on yt once ppl put out gameplay :)
for melt arlecchino the best melt team i found to work is Arlecchino, Diona, Kazuha, Shinhe. Thats beacuse shinhe is able to be both a cryo applier while actually giving the most buffs to arlecchino as shinhe gives a 15% NA/CA damage buff on her hold version of her skill and is able to run the instructor set reliably as she doesnt need to stack attack cuz she is just there to apply cryo and buff while diona can use a 5* set like noblesse to buff both attack and em (Through c6) but most importantly it gives her more hp for a beefier shield. U want to have kazuha's burst swirl cryo in this team to have enough application aswell. If used this team multiple times in abyss and it plays pretty well and is a lot of fun seeing arle do 250k-300k damage lol
How does xilonen works with Arlecchino isn't she taking her Bond of life away ? And if I want to play Cyno quickbloom with Nahida and Furina if I change Baizhu to Xilonen is it worth it?
I responded to ur other comment but just incase u didnt see it "Arlecchino can't be healed in combat so her Bond of Life will be fine. for quickbloom, nahida generally is already more than enough dendro for any team. And with furina's lower hydro output than a xingqiu, you should be fine👍"
its only for 15 seconds, and seeing how u ideally activate the hero set for electro, so xilonen goes second. (cyno e, xilonen e 2na) it will only last like maybe 12ish seconds with cyno. idk how it works if u try to crystalize when there is electro and hydro aura at the same time. u can also put xilonen later in the rotation so while the shred lasts longer, u may not get the hero set buff
I don't have Kazuha, so a Sidegrade to Kazuha is pretty much an increase for lots characters I play, including Noelle bc her Team right now consists of Furina/Yelan/C1Gorou so yeah. Also I like her more than Kazuha which is why I'm not getting him now (well, I tried and lost my 50/50 so now it's Xilonen time)
Why can’t she do a double swirl(crystalize)? Just do the same exact setup with Kazuha. She has a burst and a skill to apply geo and none of Kazuha’s setups rely on his absorption. In fact she’d have an easier time in AOE because she doesn’t swirl, which makes it hard to remove hydro auras.
valid point. when u do say Xingqiu into Bennet skill E, u can just xilo skill and basic which should in theory get a double crystalize. i was just thinking that it’s not too important when using a pyro dps. (will add addition to my comment) while when using a hydro dps like childe, the reason why double swirl setup works is bc kazuha absorbs his own pyro from the bennet circle(so this case is reliant on kazu absorbtion), while it shouldnt be possible with xilonen👍
@@yun3_ Thing about cystalize is it has a special ICD cooldown on one character which means in single target it's almost impossible to get a double crystalize.
@@yun3_ yelan is also bad. to much field time and doesn't work with spin to win. gorou way better. i don't understand why you kicked him out. [edit] wait, the change to always buff geo was only on c2? that's quite dumb... at c0 she isn't worth it for geo then. welp i was already getting her c2 anyways...
@@GenshinYuppe That is just wrong lol. In noelle teams Yelan and Furina are generally doing MORE damage than Noelle herself. Even if Gorou worked in that team he wouldn't be better than Yelan.
In the Pyro section you didn't speak of xilonen and arlecchino does she even work with her or synergy issues. Cuz Arlecchino really doesnt need the heals and kazuha genrally gives more resistance shred.
i had her show briefly in in her most common team(benny, kazu, yelan) part in the beginning. she can be swapped in for kazuha for a side grade. her buffs do last longer and she’s better in multiwave but kazu has grouping. ur right how she cant use xilo heals, but buffing wise, xilo and kazuha generally provide the same amt :)
her buffs do last longer but considering the rotation is 18 seconds long kazuha can buff her entire Feild time so that's kinda irrelevant. (yelan variation)
so itll depend on how u want to do the rotation, if u save kazu last, u def will last her dps window but u will likely run out of bennet. going kazu first makes it so u cant double swirl but u keep bennet circle at least.
@@papydia4627 yes you could :). it wont have as much damage as using someone like yelan, but it def works. U could also use xingqiu to push the dmg a bit higher + get that interuption resist
my first video goes over xilonen’s kit goes into it a bit further, but basically, if she has 2 teammates with any PHEC elements, she will give 36% resistance shred. If she does any crystalize reaction with the hero artifsct set, she will give 40% dmg bonus to said elements of the triggered reaction
I know its not for everybody, but I think her c2 buff for electro characters is very interesting. 1 team I can think of is Cyno, Healer Nahida/Baizhu, Furina and Xilonen since I always had issues with Cyno's energy and his burst downtime in a team like this. Another is Raiden(c2) hyper with your usual sara and bennett as the gigabuffer, basically replaning Kazuha. That's gonna just make your rotations rotate much faster, pretty much enabling a 100% uptime on Raiden's burst. Don't know how Bennett buff is gonna allign with the other characters cooldown tho, but it sounds fun in concept.
my friend if he can somehow snag c2 would probs use that cyno team with nahida. but im super curious how an ult spammy team like raiden sara could perform tho
I can only see my navia getting buffed😮.. and thats it. . if she had some sort of interruption res in her c0 variant it would be nice ... But i guess dehya and zhongli will do that part. And all are saying she is as good as kazuha... Vv is good but grouping is a thing too .... Don't know why elsewhere teams i will ditch kazu for her.. For me she seems pure nische unit still i will get her. .. skipped both kinich and mualani
we technically got 1 instance of a crystalize shield xd. But navia is honestly getting a rly nice buff tho when u do pull xilonen. Cuz navias currently unable to get a kazu lvl support, but now she can and xilo also fills the sustain slot too :)
@@yun3_ yes exactly just navia ... i thought everyother team.. and the next team that can use xilonen is ayato hyperbloom ... thats it.. no other unit can fully function with her...
would plunge hutao still be better if you dont have hutao c1? in my mind, xilonen/hutao would require you to still get hutao c1, but xianyun/hutao would allow you to ignore hutao's c1 which can make plunge superior in terms of comfort and cost?
ur right. i didnt really consider cost wise with plunge hu tao being 1 cost cheaper than c1 hutao with xilonen. If u dont have c1 hutao, i think u may be correct on how it may be better cost and comfort wise
i go over mualani specifically at 7:10 if u want to see it, but basically, she’s rly gud for mualani as it makes it easier to play over a kazuha vape and does more dmg than a zhongli vape. the team looks solid, but i will say u can also try taking out sucrose for a nahida if u want to try a burn vape team👍
xilonen’s only source of dmg in this team will be 2 basics, 1 skill & burst, so keep that in mind :) perhaps replacing siegewinne for another subdps like yelan cuz xilonen heals?
she doesn't have any off field dmg, so she isn't really a sub dps. if you mean building her for dmg then on fielding her, she'd be fine, but you'd be better off running her as your healer and replacing sigewinne for yelan/bennet/xingqiu (ignoring bennet of course if you really don't want circle impact)
there def is - u can do say Raiden national with raiden, xilonen, (XQ, yelan, furina), and xiangling - hyper carry also works well now with raiden, sara, kazu, and xilonen replacing bennet
btw i'm def pulling xilo bc i like her design and when they released the rooster of natlan i was eyeing her already whether she is good or not and she turns out to be the meta loll ALSO I LOVE THE MUSIC U PUT IN BEHIND. when that plays on natlan i'm crying 😭😭😭 and let's not forget xilo can sustain too and can i ask how great of an upgrade she is for navia?
i thought she was pretty and then was like “zamn, she gonna be geo. its GG🫠” then the kit released 😤. nah when they put that music in the vachima quest, had me tearing up🥲 if u havent done the archon quest yet, its so gud. actually rly good upgrade for navia cuz she can run something like xilonen, furina, and probs benny/yelan and cook. i think rn her most common team is like her, zhongli, benny, XL, though i could be wrong
@@yun3_ i knoooww i tought we lost her then she's meta all of nowhere lol anyways i like it. i haven't done the archon quest yet but today or tomorrow. WAIT WAIT WAIT does that music takes place in the quest? I'm not crying u are 🤧🤧 Fr tho natlan music is fire! I see i see i might even end up pulling for neu and navia too did arle got a meaningful upgrade too? Also i need to ask u smth, having Kazuha confuses me. If i have Kaz do i still need her? I mean she looks gorgeous, W design, ++exploration skills, 2 sides on spiral abyss or i guess there are teams featuring both too? What could go wrong tho lol
yes. the music plays once at the best/worst time. and yah, natlan ost is such a vibe. i like to think shes a kazuha who can sustain, so if u think that would help ur team, then go for it. i got c2r1 kazu but still goin for her cuz aesthetic + meta. you could put both on the same team or split them up, either would be gud 😤
@@yun3_ can't wait to add it to my playlist. ahaha ur kaz is way more better and i'm pulling too, she looks gorgeous also having a new meta char sounds right and amazing. also i'm so glad she survived the beta hopefully lol. her sustain also helps in furina teams ig too so they'll work great
he is c6 lvl 70 4 9 9 r1 skyatlas and honestly was not bad at all. I do have c2 furina and not too relatable artifacts for my units tho. XL and especially furina contributed a lot of dmg
@@theanarchist4312 yep. + no more circle impact. just know u will need to do like diluc skill > xilonen > xianyun > hydro (the last 2 can be switched), cuz u need activate the hero set by crystalizing pyro👍
@@yun3_ . Lol xd, xilonen is always worse than bennet if the character is attack scaling, just the difference of 170% atk with 15% dmg bonus over 40% dmg bonus and 36% res shred. Even in vaccum bennet is better but with xianyun res shred the difference widens.
@@AlwaysThirstys xilonen actually still dmg amps more than benny for atk scalers. using a 750em kazu vs 13 talent benny with fav, my kazu amps my miko 18% more dmg than bennet. no freedomsworn in the test👍
it def can work though i dunno how gud itll be if tighnari is ur main source of damage. but if ur just using playing quick swap and everyone contributes dmg, then honestly go for it
@@yun3_ I always thought of having offensive dendros in aggravate teams but it seems Nahida is an exception as you pointed out, so a kazuha that heals sounded good in my head. I'll try it out nonetheless
@@thereach4321 i have alhaitham and i honestly dont like his spread team(miko,fish,yao yao) over hyperbloom (yaoyao,em raiden, hydro). i do love electro dps in aggravate as u can see with the footage in the back cuz kazoo go brr. do tell the results :)
Hu tao players are going to be balling with her you literally get 36 % shred and 40 % elemental dmg instead of plunging attacks which will surely be an upgrade and even more for c1 owner's
I’m sorry but I find it hard to believe swapping out bennet and keeping kazuha and Xilonen who are doing the exact same thing in mono pyro is a damage increase. The returns on those res shreds are so minute at that point.
we are def getting a abundance of res shred but also getting the 40% dmg bonus from the set. this allows for our dps to use an atk cup instead to make up you not using benny. I do not know how much of a dmg increase it would be, but i still would assume it is an increase nonetheless the less. I can def test once i get xilonen tho
bennet is irreplaceable, he is the definition of xilonen but better. - can almost double the damage of your attack scaling dps while xilonen is more of a 60% buff, and they both have healing except bennet has 1.4 seconds of Feild time compared to xilonens 4 .
im confused. xilonen amps damage more that bennet, literally. u can go in game and just test anyone with bennet vs kazu. for me personally, kazu amps my dmg 18% more than a bennet burst without freedom sworn at 750 em. so yah xilonen will be better in mono pyro her field time also is like .5 seconds if u dont need burst not 4?
@@yun3_ you’d have to upload your testing, but at baseline unless your using an attack substat/passive weapon on your dps, bennet will pretty much always outperform kazuha…. Unless the enemy has a ton of resistance to what you swirl. C1 Bennet gives about 50% attk boost to dps under 2.4k attk and another 12% DMG bonus on the new set…. At C6, it’s 27% if your dps is pyro. These are insane stats. Between goblets, artifact 4pc, and weapon passives usually giving a baseline of 120 DMG% it’s common a 35-40% DMG bonus even gives a character a 33% DMG increase. This goes down further if they have bonus % in their kit like arl. This means shred is the single deciding factor on whether kazuha buffs more or not. And typically on enemies with 10% resistance, the answer is no but it brings his number in line with a bennet with no artifacts.
it's really not that huge depending on the team. for units like neuv it's pretty big since hp buffing is virtually non-existent, and it's basically needed for mono geo since without it you only get the res when she's on field, but for teams like mono pyro/vape, it's nothing crazy (still good, just not the level of increase c2 nahida/furina can be)
agreed. for hp scalers/double hydro, it goes pretty hard. And when using electro units, that burst reduction is kinda crazy. places it can be weak would be like a childe benny xiangling where only xiangling benifits
it would depend on the team but i would say yes. vape or “mono” pyro, she can be a good pick. i could explain more if ud like if ur curious on a particular team
@@TylerChou059 Ok, so dehya does not rly have good scaling via her atk or hp if u have c1. as such, you are better off investing in other stats such as dmg% and crit which everyone scales the same off of. with mono pyro, as mentioned in the vid, it will be an upgrade from bennet as 40% dmg bonus + 36 res shred > 800-1000 atk which dehya doesnt use atk all too well cuz her low scaling. a double hydro core with furina, yelan, dehya, and xilonen would also work well as everyone give dmg%. this also gives hydro res which buffs our hydros and dehya if she has c1. this team also cant use kazuha over xilonen as he wont be able to swirl pyro usually (no buffs) tldr, very gud. lmk if u need any clarifications ☺️
I dont get it when u say replacing Bennet would not be possible to ""swirl" " pyro with Xilonen, even with Xiangling on the team (????) She doesnt need to react with the PHEC elements, they just need to exist! 2, at least. Then she will shred thought her skill. The only time she needs to react with the element is to buff trought the new natlan's support set.
people really need to let go of the "geo is bad" idea. noelle with furina is a solid team, zhongli is an ok shield unit for players that want one since he gives some buffs to the team, yunjin is niche as hell but on par with bennet for NA based units, navia is one of the better dps units as of now (and only going to get better with xilonen), chiori is a solid off field dmg option that excels in her niche, and now nilonen with 36% res + healing + 40% dmg. and even if that has more to do with the character's kits themselves rather than the element, xilo and navia's artifacts/kits are centered around crystalize, and units like chiori are centered on geo constructs (something unique to them). honestly, cryo is in way worse of a state then geo rn
I was initially planning for going fully on Mavuika THE MOTHER and Arlecchino THE FATHER's rerun, but seeing the potential for my magnanimous and demure Dragon Sovereign over my beloved sick doctor and all other teams, Xilonen will be the winner of my 75 pity guarantee ehe
@@yun3_ the very demure Cocogoat excellency shall also use Xilonen effectively, shits and giggles aside, Ganyu is my comfort character, and I hope Xilonen will be of great use for her too. As for Neuvi, I simply got graced by God Almighty for getting C2 Furina in 10 pulls, so Xilonen's single target healing won't be a problem
I love my ganyu and even have a plush xd. i hope that xilonen and mavukia can bring melt back cuz i wanna see my 🐐 at the top. that being said, 10 pulls… congrats. happy for you. nice. 😠 (i also got lucky with c2 furina xd)
@@yun3_ awww that's cute, I also wanted to get some plushies or stuff like that for Neuvi and other fav characters, but in our country, such stuff is simply nonexistent, plus I am looking after 3 people while being a student ehe I just pray that I can save enough for C2 Mavuika as all archons after Ei get busted C2s. PRAYGE to the LORD (btw happy to hear that you also got lucky, mine was actually kinda like a consolation from God as the period when I got Furina was one of my depressive and turbulent times)
@@zaneaulner4333 jeez that must be super rough. be sure to take care of yourself too ☺️ If i had the money, id gift u a ganyu or neuv plush, but as a college student rn, money can be iffy at times hopefully there’s more good times to come and ur pulls go HARD. this game also saved my from not good times so I feel u. I’ll be happy to listen if u ever need an ear :)
-forgot to add this, my b. mentioned in another comment, Bennet actually does buff more than c0r0 kazuha for atk scalers by like a 1-3%ish with fav bennet vs 950 kazu from my testing. and as we saw how shred actually does get diminishing returns after we hit negative shred, bennet + kazu/xilo may be better that kazu + xilo in certain cases. just keep ^^ in mind 🙂
-for Geo, i totally forgot Yelan existed. she 100% can be put in for bennet and probs is the better option too.
-You can also double crystalize if using the the benny XQ trick for ur pyro dps, but it wont work for hydro dps’ like childe cuz ur not using yelan/XQ
- another viewer mentioned how Geo/ crystalize” has a “Team wide icd of 1 shard per second.” this means this setup while possible will require u to do a rotation like
edit- xingqiu eq, benny eq, xilo skill(pyro crystalize), wait, basic basic( hydro crystalize)
-mentioned in a comment, c0 plunge hutao is 1 cost cheaper than say a c1 hutao + xilonen (impacting cost and comfort) so keep that in mind 👍
You can not double crystallize and get 40% DMG bonus for both element. Crystallize has a reaction ICD, you need to use the burst to apply 2 1U geo and that means you can't weave Xq/Yelan because u have to use Q during E to get the full bonus.
As a general thing, full double Scroll is not happening because of crystallize ICD, geo inaptitude to remove 1U aura (u have to somehow deplete it before) and u have to EQN2 to get 2 apps DURING Nightsoul state
c1 hu tao being necessity is crazy already moved on from hu tao lol
Just saw the edit, Xilo EN2Q is not doing anything. The XQ weave from N1 is removing pyro but not applying, and Q outside of E state would be 12% for 15s if u somehow manage to get hydro anyway (with cope orbitals 🔥).
Just get pyro double crystallize is not a thing here.
@@nicobiche It is possible :) I just did it using ninguang and actually just did 2 basic attacks which was actually enough to get both a pryo and hydro shard. Just did the basic xingqiu ult bennet burst skill then basic basic. Just gotta be careful of not touching the enemy with the rainswords or else pyro aura disappears.(much easier with yelan i assume). I recorded it just in case you would like proof.
ur right on how we shouldnt be burst at the end. unfortunatly we dont have the gauge for the burst so idk if we can do skill, burst, basic basic for it to work as well.
also, the basic which causes crystalize + the rainswords should override pyro and apply hydro 👍
@@emranao it's not a necessity but someone mentioned it so i added it just in case :)
Poor physical 😢
ikr ;-; they bricked physical when they changed the hero set to no longer with physical. they 100% are waiting for sheznhaya for phys i bet
Eula 😭
Actually as long as the character is of the Cryo element they get 60% CD its not 60% Cryo CD.
@@yun3_phys is abandoned forever
@@dirtydonut9842 snezhnaya trust ;-;
Yeah I am looking to get her for my Neuvillette Kaz Funrina team…. If she is really gonna make the team even better, I’m all in. My Baizhu can go to another team 😅
2 kazuhas + a furina on that team now. neuv is gonna cook 🧑🍳 . her c2 is also gonna be so nice on this team and is basically another hp sands/goblet
Neuv teams are a bit iffy, she might be a bit more clunky to fit into your rotations because she is a melee character.
Also, Xilonen + Yun Jin Becames a powefull core for na dps team's such as Wriothesley, Ayato
purrr my c6 yunjin and c1 ayato are happy also where tf is wrio 😣😣
Can it be good for arlecinno?
@@Akash11898 i think it will be, but her could benefit more from hydro aplication in supports as Yelan or Xinqiu, and Benett buff.... maybe Furina, Xilonen, Yun Jin, Arlechino will do the job whatever you try to clear.
@@jooi1567 yeah, but i hope he doesnt come just yet.... i need primos for xilonen before gettin his c1. One of the strongest cons In my opinion
xilonen will be an upgrade in definitive mualani teams, neuv teams, and thats about it. Not even joking, most teams want kazuha more often at c0r0 due to already haveing a usable healer and wanting grouping, having kazuhas damage equal 15% of overall team damage and more.
itll really depend on the team and situation id say. but the main draw of her imo is how she can replace the heal slot and buff, which most of our healers dont buff dmg currently
for ayaka's freeze/cryo teams, i do wonder how the loss of the second cryo unit would impact energy. of course you can run xilo on fav, but ayaka already tends to have 120-135 er needs with the cryo battery, so her higher er needs in those teams might lower the difference between the older options and xilo
super true. I currently use 116 er ganyu, furina, kazu, fav charlotte. i dont have any issues currently so moving to fav xilo i think wouldnt be an issue for me. BUT, if ur saying that ayaka still needs that much ER with a cryo support, that indeed may decrease the dmg increase by a lil bit
@@yun3_ yea, i think it's much more a potential issue for ayaka just bc her ult cost is so high while also being thr majority of her dmg
Im a c6 dehya main since her release and doing the furina bennett kazuha team has been quite a pain getting the pyro swirl from kazuha e while his burst is hydro infused. Unfortunately i dont think xilonen will fix that replacing kazuha for her since I'd lose hydro application even tho the res shred is more consistent... but maybe I'd be able to run an attack goblet and drop bennett but then I'd still be missing a LOT of atk since her base atk isnt super high. Maybe I'd also have to swap from hp to atk sands but at the end of the day I'll just throw it in genshin optimizer and find out lol
im planning to build dehya finally cuz why the hek not. but yah, the furina benny kazu team can be such a pain. when doing what i call the “short” rotation, i just only do bennet e burst, kazuha skill, and furina skill burst. i find it much more consistent, so while i dont get as high of a ceiling with cuz no c2 kazu, it is still a gud set up for my arle.
and honestly, screw hydro application from kazu burst anyway 😞
@@yun3_ well the thing is i need kazu burst for hydro or else dehya burst starts to out apply furinas E. So eventually by the end of my dehya burst I'm playing vape furina instead of reverse vape dehya which isn't what i want. So kazuha hydro infused burst solves that issue
@@DaiPai1777 ah ok. i generally expect me missing forward vapes on this team when using arle but i understand if you’d want to not miss vapes for her burst. im satisfied with the dmg bonus generally so dont mind too much if i miss a vape or two
@@yun3_ yeah like its not the biggest deal and its funny to see furina doing like 100k+ vapes here and there. But i want my 100k+'s to be from dehya haha. She's always been the very first character i make sure i clear abyss with every reset and now imaginarium theater as the final team used on the last stage. Mualani might be part 2 of that so xilonen probably going with her
@@DaiPai1777 gotchu. im trying dehya for the first time in this new abyss though she isnt fully leveled.
I'm very grateful for this video. Reading about her kit I understood that her support capabilities were amazing but I've been spektical about putting her in my teams.
In the best way she's giving sidegrade.
kazu sidegrade and sustain upgrade 😤
@@yun3_ kazu sidegrade but she's a waifu so that makes it an upgrade
THE EDIT OF MUALANI AND KACHINA LMFAOOO
I thought it was pretty peak >:) I had to go frame by frame for the different words/images. there’s probably a better way to do it but oh well. I noob
I was thinking about using her with yunjin and furina for a weird wet rock team for my ayato lol I know he's not the best dps out there, but I really like playing with him
wet rock XD. i saw another comment saying xilonen + yunjin will be a solid basic attack team core so ur def not alone out there
that's probably how i'd do it too if i used ayato
assuming u get her weapon using clorinde aggravate with nahida fischl xilonen the buff from signature is applied to dendro as well ??
yep. “All Elemental DMG Bonus by 12%”
Really good video bro.
I'm not sure if i'll be able to even get her but would she work in a team with on-field dps chiori + furina & sigewinne(probably)?
@@ashuelette yes she would :) so the two geos on the team would be xilonen and chiori. as long as the last slot is PHEC element, which siegwinne falls under, u should be fine
Bro Xilonen can res shred multi wave enemies but kazuha can only res shred those enemies he swirl so you don't have to worry about losing cc with kazuha
Also kazuha is basically useless when fighting with aura enemies but xilonen can res sherd and heal
(I think xilonen might be better than kazuha with every scenario unless you already have great healing in your team and your kazuha needs to do elemental reaction or simply does big numbers btw why care about sup dps when you can replace you're sustainability character to a sup dps like xingqui if you already have xilonen. maby kazuha is better if you can double swirl and your sup dps does same amount of dmg as your main dps or better but most in teams main dps always does more dmg so it's probably very unlikely)
it really depends.
in teams that you can a) double swirl and b) are split almost 50/50 dmg between two elements (mainly stuff like international), kazuha still is a bigger buff. i know you mentioned it, but kazu's dmg in reaction teams aggravate/electrocharge IS quite large, and those teams typically already have good healers, yaoyao/baizhu and kokomi respectively, so you don't need to swap anyone out since you get more than just sustain from your sustain.
in addition, while recent abyss has been 3/4 waves per side, the next few seem to be moving back in the direction of 1/2 waves, meaning multi-wave is less of an issue. at the same time, there are also fewer enemies per wave in the next few rotations, so to be fair cc will also be less important. still, there are teams like ayaka freeze who really need the grouping (even when the enemies are fairly close together) since the majority of the team's dmg is ayaka's burst and while it isn't tiny, it doesn't have the biggest range.
against innate aura enemies, she definitely outperforms him, but there just aren't that many enemies like that since they mess with far more teams than just kazu's. i think it'll really just be a situation of it depends based on the team/content.
How good would she be for Bennett, a hydro, (Xilonen), and Arlecchino? Is the damage increase really that high? I want to know if I can go for Kinich cons, but if Xilonen is really op I’ll consider pulling her
I would say for a arlechinno, it would be equivalentish to kazuha in that slot. for xingqiu, doing a double crystalize may be harder to do than the tradtional kazu double swirl set up, so u may not get the hydro dmg bonus. but like overall, its gonna be very strong imo
@@yun3_ I already use Kazuha in replace of the Xilonen spot rn. Would it still be worth it? Sorry I keep asking 😭
the damage overall would be the same bc they provide the same buffs. If you want to like only upgrade this team, maybe not worth the pulls. but if u say wanna use kazuha or xilonen else where, then i think it’s a good idea.
ex. me personally, i use arle,furina, kazu, and benny. but with xilonen, i can move my kazoo to my aggravate team. feel free to ask questions, i dont mind 👍
@@yun3_ ok thanks! I think I’m gonna go for Xilonen on her rerun 👍
in multi target scenarios couldnt you apply one element one one enemy then apply another on the other and then xilo can E>Na both to proc double scroll bonus? for e.g. arle skill then yelan EQ on one enemy > xilo E NA NA > bennett
yes u def can. though the question would be how practical it would be
@@yun3_ what is your thoughts on this rotation:
arle E>xilo E>yelan EQ>xilo E> bennett EQ>arle combo. Since the scroll buff lasts a while. Not sure if yelan burst will have enough time tho. And xilo on sac sword.
I personally think if u took out the second xilonen E, itd be a pretty solid set up. I know we dont get the hero set for hydro but it should be fine cuz arle is a majority of the damage. this way, u can also run sig or fav on her while also speeding up ur rotation time :)
It's way harder and rng AI manipulation dependent on certain chambers.
Can u tell me about radian nationals
This a copy and paste from another comment I made. for (raiden, xq/yelan, benny, xiangling)
-may be a slight upgrade in rational if u take out bennet. xq will do more cuz he doesnt get bennet buff off field. XL dmg probs stays the same as she only gets res shred and no dmg% (unless u do a double crystalize setup). while raiden will do more dmg. overall, it should be a buff :)
@@yun3_
If i do that then i will have energy problems with xiangling specially single target. So is it worth it
I have c1 r0 yelan, xl c6, bennet c6, and f2p ridan
though i believe raiden should battery xiangling, i understand if she cant. if you normally use bennet to battery, a fav xilonen should work just fine. I want to say that if you want to specifically pull for this team, it’s not the biggest upgrade in the world, but she still is a great unit to have.
i will say i generally have XL at 240 er and still feel like thats barely enough sometimes
I'm thinking Navia pyro.
Also, very excited to do triple cryo with Shenhe and that crazy Xilonen C2. Between Shenhe and Xilonen, every potentail damaging stat is buffed like crazy.
pairing navia with like xilonen, benny, and xiangling gonna go brrr.
what triple cryo team are u planning? im surprised cuz no freeze or vape
I'd probably use Ganyu, Shenhe, Xilonen, Layla. Far from optimal, but it has a lot of my favorite characters. Right now, one of my abyss teams is that, but with Mona. C2 Xilonen will be a strict upgrade even without freeze, I'm sure.
What I like about that team is that it can clear with burst damage alone. It's fun to just throw a lot of big AOE circles and watch everything die. (Takes heavily invested characters to be even passable, though.)
@@Squashua2727 nah that's based, and if u can make that type stuff work, then all the power to u
navia is iffy, depending on how ti goes kachina can actually beat navia due to crystalize shard generation and it also depends on the enemy geo res. Navia with kachian basically means around 20%-15% more damage just from an extra 5 ish shards.
@AlwaysThirstys Na, I'm playing Navia solo geo right now, and getting her full stacks already isn't a major issue - just use burst start of rotation.
Yup! Like furina, it's like she's tailor made to go with noelle. Furina, gorou and Xilonen buffing noelle. i'm predicting ~70k damage per hit in spin to win with c2 r1 (up from 55 using kachina), and all normals above 100k damage rather than just the last one. and furina also gets a huge boost. dps is going to the moon.
but this is overkill, i will probably not use her and furina on the same team most of the time.
its a shame that 3x geo would only work with c2 xilonen. But yah, for noelle, adding a furina and someone else would go pretty hard.
For the double Pyro double Hydro, it's worth mentioning that Hu Tao, Gaming and Diluc all lack off field Pyro application (especially Hu Tao). So, if you compare Kazu and Xilonen on this archetype Kazuha does nothing for the Pyro dps while Xilonen, although not being able to activate the Hero set, can at least Pyro shred, resulting in higher total damage. As for Xianyun, as you mentioned it, it's hard for plunge focused teams to trade her for Xilonen, but it's fine for Hu Tao (the biggest Pyro winner on Xilonen's release). For Mono Pyro, she is pretty much a sidegrade bc one of her main strenghts is covering the healer slot, which isn't necessary if you run Bennett.
On quickbloom teams, I actually don't think Baizhu can be that easily replaced because all the three quickbloom dpses that you mentioned (Cyno, Clorinde and Yae) do get punished a lot for being interrupted. Although Xilonen buffs more, Baizhu's constant shields can be a damage increase however, especially for NA spammers, as their biggest hits come from the last hits of their NA combo. It's also worth considering Cyno's high uptime on burst, which doesn't sync well with Nahida's application but has high synergy with Baizhu's. At C1 and especially at C2 (which creates a lot of sinergies and possibilities for Cyno's team building) she's prob Cyno's best teammate in all of his teams, but before that it's hard to tell.
As for mono teams, she is prob the best support in the game atm (and at C2 she is THE mono team support). Other mono teams variants besides Pyro and Hydro are now possible with her, since she also covers the sustain slot. Mono Electro Xilonen with Sara + 2 damage dealers and mono Cryo Xilonen with Shenhe + 2 damage dealers. Before her, if you wanted to run mono Cryo you were stuck with Diona (or another Cryo sustain), now even though you ain't running Kazu (worth mentioning, as Shenhe's Quills procs on Kazu's swrils), you can run a sub dps to cover the extra damage slot and make better use of Shenhe's buffs. As for the mono Electro, well, it just wasn't possible, now it might be viable, we'll see.
As for mono Geo (if they don't change it), at C2 she can be played in mono Geo and triple Geo. However, on these teams specifically her BiS artifact should be Songs of Days Past (unless if you run triple Geo with a good elemental applicator in the last slot; still, Hero doesn't work on pure Mono Geo). Since she has pretty absurd healing multipliers, she can easily reach the 15000 cap from the 4p set, which translates to 1200 extra base damage bonus (works similar to Shenhe's and Yunjin's buffs). Even though the effect is shared with all teammates, she can reliably proc it twice per ult, which is a 12k base damage increase in total. If you consider C4 (which works the same way), a 4k def Xilonen (which is easily reachable with 3 def main stats + a def weapon + 0-3 def substats) gives 2600 flat base damage bonus, which combined with SoDP 4p makes 3800 in total (for reference, that's equivalent to a C0 Shenhe with 4.6k and lvl 10 skill). So yeah, at C4 she's not only the best support for Mono Geo but also a WAY MORE strong Shenhe (as she can give almost 4k flat damage bonus + 45% res shred + 50% dmg bonus from C2 + 36% dmg bonus from weapon).
@@JoseGramatico goated comment. the only think id say is during the aggravate part, chloride actually has high built in interruption resist while miko doesnt lose too much from being hit ngl with her totems doing a lot of the dmg. BUT, cyno def needs the help from a baizhu or c1 xilo ;-;
@@yun3_ iirc Clorinde high interruption res comes from C2 and C6, idk if she has any at base :\
As for Yae it does depend bc she can be interrupted while still casting, so sometimes it translates to damage loss (but yeah, nothing major)
Cyno is the one who suffers the most bc of how his kit works, so it's hard to replace Baizhu on his teams
Btw, also another key point for mono Geo (and mono Cryo):
At C4 her buffing capabilities are stronger than a C0-C5 Shenhe for Mono Cryo, as well as comparable to a C6 Shenhe if your team is not too NA based (since if you use too many skills Shenhe's Quills still run off). At C6 you can run triple Geo Furina in any Geo DEF scaller team besides Noelle's (as she already can since she has teamwide healing built into her kit): Itto, Chiori and Albedo. As an Albedo main, for me it would be just damage per screenshot (which is fun but not pratical in the game's current state), however it would be such a huge buff for Itto and for main dps Chiori (especially if you do have a high invested Chiori, with Constellations, etc). So, at C6 imo she is prob the best specialized support we have for one element, while also (pre C6) being insane for a lot of teams, epecially mono teams (which is funny, she actually fitting in all mono teams with such viability besides Anemo and Dendro main dps ones).
@@JoseGramatico awww ur right, it is her friken cons that give IR ;-;
gotchu on ur mono element part tho.
i will say, thankfully u only need c4 for the max buffing capabilities for those who rly want that. i also bet that c4 can go crazy in some vape/ melt teams
@@yun3_ Yup! C6 is just for Triple Geo Furina other than Noelle + Xilonen main dps, all the other teams can get the max out of her kit at C4 (that might include Melt/Vape NA focused teams)
I also saw some people mentioning her sinergy with Yunjin and I hope they actually do have pretty strong sinergy once Xilo goes live, that would make so new many team variations and honestly Xilonen's whole kit (including Constellations) seems so archon level, she's too strong
@@yun3_ Also, I want to say I really do enjoy your content and atm you're prob one of my favs content creators
You talk about team building/char building/tc in such a non superficial way and it really stands out to me, not to mention you're one of the few people that consider QoL and consistency (like the Jiaoqiu one, which you talked about debuff uptime), you're doing a great job :))
It's also amazing how you take your time to answer each and every comment everytime, I hope your channel grows even more because you're such a nice person
25 ENERGY REDUCTION AND 6 BURST SEC BURST COOLDOWN😫, my sethos could be in burst heaven with that😨
yess im c6 itto main im sooooo happpy. xilonen i will get her c4 and r1 and save up for r5 her weapon when she reruns with the second weapon in banner is what i want
holy heck gud luck. yah she will be such a nice upgrade for him at higher cons.
damn im only at c2 itto and c6 gorou and got chiori:( i would rather have c2 xiolenen and have no chiroir
Im not sure if I should get her bc like I “accidentally” pulled c2 itto while building pity from my gambling addiction 😭 he’s not built at all and I’d rather have his weapon to play him
@@_Paps she's good for other teams but can be used with itto if u got the right teamates imo
hi yune!! came back to this vid and i wanted to know if c1 xilonen would be enough interruption res for a c0 neuvi? i always pair my neuvi with zhongli but i plan to replace zhongli later once i get xilonen. im just worried if she can’t provide the comfyness for my neuvi like zhongli can
HELLO
@@yun3_ ahh okay!! thank you for answering T_T and HAHAH THANK YOU but ive been way too babied by zhongli so i will get hit unfortunately….
For mono hydro, if your on field DPS is kokomi kazuma clears 10000% if it’s any other on field DPS then xilonen is the better option
how though?
xilonen can contribute to fanfare stacking before kokomi even hits the field and she doesn’t need to reapply vv when a new wave spawns, her buffs also last longer than Kazuha’s in general.
Kazuha’s dps in mono hydro also drops off a cliff since hydro swirls are limited to a singular instance of dmg rather than the usual 2 and his grouping is irrelevant since kokomi mono hydro aready lacks in aoe.
Getting Xilonen would also free up Kazuha for another team that would actually use him better.
@@brise848im curious too. i am not a kokomi main, but id imagine kok main dps would want furina, kazuha, and xilonen for mono hydro
@@brise848 it’s kokomi, with her healing output and her jellyfish already healing from off field you don’t need a 2nd healer in the slightest, the res shredding a new wave instantly is a nice bonus that might make her a better pick in some scenarios and for the better res uptime I personally have never had issues with VVs 10 second uptime since he’s usually last unit in a rotation before kokomis burst which also lasts 10 seconds. I’m ngl I forgot kazuhas damage falls off in mono-hydro but swirl damage is still there and then xilonens which doesn’t have any off field damage. Now I’d argue using kazuha here frees up xilonen instead she is overall the better unit and the healing makes her a better pick in so many teams just not kokomi mono hydro
@@isac9465 vv has 8 second uptime
@@isac9465 it’s not about needing a second healer it’s about frontloading the fanfare stacks from Furina, having Xilonen’s healing also frees you from circle impact if the enemy happens to move away from Kokomi e during setup.
if Furina’s being used first half it’s likely Bennett is already being ran on the other side so Xilonen’s healing is not relevant barring aggravate/freeze teams.
Aside from this the only teams where Xilonen is a strict upgrade, is teams where Kazuha’s double swirl setups aren’t possible like double hydro hutao or melt/vape teams against single target.
Otherwise Xilonen is just a sidegrade or worse than Kazuha, and unlike mono hydro, Kazuha’s grouping and sub dps will actually be relevant in these other teams.
Bruh, I don’t know what to do anymore 😭. My English is not great because I speak Spanish but I’m in between pulling Raiden c0 or Xilonen c0, it’s a guaranteed in one pull away (77 pity lol)
I’m f2p can any of you help me decide pls 😭🙏.
(I don’t have Neuvi nor Arle because they skipped me btw)
I personally would say xilonen bc she would be better for you in the long run. I have a c0 raiden and will say she is not rly close to neuvulette, arlechinno, or alhaitham.
Raiden is rly good for beginniners i can’t lie, but once u are more invested, raiden imo doesnt do too well.
xilonen should be just as good as a kazuha and he has stood the test of time. it may suck not having a good dps for a while, cuz kazuha was my first 5* before i had a 5* dps, but it definitely worth it
@@yun3_ Thx! In any case I also believe Xilonen would do better for me as I’m gonna try pulling either Arle or Neuvi in a future, nevertheless, thanks for giving me a second opinion!
@@maikosaihara yah good luck, and who knows, maybe a new natlan dps goes crazy with xilonen and u can pull them instead :)
damn not a single Raiden mention
@@rainyxdevil oh yah thats pretty true. so lemme do it here >:)
-may be a slight upgrade in rational if u take out bennet. xq will do more cuz he doesnt get bennet buff off field. XL dmg probs stays the same as she only gets res shred and no dmg%. while raiden will do more dmg.
-hypercarry raiden, with kazu and sara, shes also can fit the last slot rly well, and no more overload cuz benny boy
is hu tao xingqiu xilonen zhongli a good team?
yes👍 if u ever need more damage, u can always take out zhongli for another subdps like yelan/furina
I'm stuggling to decide going for xilonen... I feel like making her a dps but don't know if c0 r1 would work well. I want to save my pulls for citlali aswell 😫
If you're mainly planning to make her a dps, i think the biggest factor would be if you have the right team. She doesn't really get a huge dps boost besides c6. If you have furina, gorou, and dongli/albedo/chiori, i don't see an issue in going for this playstyle. (though i must say support xilo will be stronger than dps xilo by quite a bit)
or maybe just wait to see how gud dps xilo is on yt once ppl put out gameplay :)
Fair enough, I'll just wait for release to see whether it is worth it
for melt arlecchino the best melt team i found to work is Arlecchino, Diona, Kazuha, Shinhe. Thats beacuse shinhe is able to be both a cryo applier while actually giving the most buffs to arlecchino as shinhe gives a 15% NA/CA damage buff on her hold version of her skill and is able to run the instructor set reliably as she doesnt need to stack attack cuz she is just there to apply cryo and buff while diona can use a 5* set like noblesse to buff both attack and em (Through c6) but most importantly it gives her more hp for a beefier shield. U want to have kazuha's burst swirl cryo in this team to have enough application aswell. If used this team multiple times in abyss and it plays pretty well and is a lot of fun seeing arle do 250k-300k damage lol
I think the only arle melt team ive seen is arle, diona, kazu, bennet. I literally can not find other ppl using a melt arle team online
@@yun3_ Yeah kazuha applies enough cryo with diona swirl to do metl arlecchino. It's harder to play tho.
How does xilonen works with Arlecchino isn't she taking her Bond of life away ? And if I want to play Cyno quickbloom with Nahida and Furina if I change Baizhu to Xilonen is it worth it?
I responded to ur other comment but just incase u didnt see it
"Arlecchino can't be healed in combat so her Bond of Life will be fine.
for quickbloom, nahida generally is already more than enough dendro for any team. And with furina's lower hydro output than a xingqiu, you should be fine👍"
@@yun3_Thank your awsome❤
@@yun3_and her buff up time is enough for Cyno?
its only for 15 seconds, and seeing how u ideally activate the hero set for electro, so xilonen goes second. (cyno e, xilonen e 2na) it will only last like maybe 12ish seconds with cyno. idk how it works if u try to crystalize when there is electro and hydro aura at the same time. u can also put xilonen later in the rotation so while the shred lasts longer, u may not get the hero set buff
@@yun3_ okay
I don't have Kazuha, so a Sidegrade to Kazuha is pretty much an increase for lots characters I play, including Noelle bc her Team right now consists of Furina/Yelan/C1Gorou so yeah.
Also I like her more than Kazuha which is why I'm not getting him now (well, I tried and lost my 50/50 so now it's Xilonen time)
u were getting a “kazuha” one way or the other xd
Why can’t she do a double swirl(crystalize)? Just do the same exact setup with Kazuha. She has a burst and a skill to apply geo and none of Kazuha’s setups rely on his absorption. In fact she’d have an easier time in AOE because she doesn’t swirl, which makes it hard to remove hydro auras.
valid point. when u do say Xingqiu into Bennet skill E, u can just xilo skill and basic which should in theory get a double crystalize.
i was just thinking that it’s not too important when using a pyro dps. (will add addition to my comment)
while when using a hydro dps like childe, the reason why double swirl setup works is bc kazuha absorbs his own pyro from the bennet circle(so this case is reliant on kazu absorbtion), while it shouldnt be possible with xilonen👍
@@yun3_ Thing about cystalize is it has a special ICD cooldown on one character which means in single target it's almost impossible to get a double crystalize.
@@AlwaysThirstys wth. i gotta look into this. i thought the icd worked the same way as the other elemental reactions and based ok the atk itself
is she good with itto? im seriously thinking of just pulling chiori
@@red-wl8gp I think she can if u play her in the right team. youd likely need to pair itto with furina, benny, and xilonen to make the team work tho
Ur wrong about Bennett for a Noelle-Furina team.
frik. i was thinking about the best personal dmg for all 3. i forgot yelan existed ;-;
@@yun3_ yelan is also bad. to much field time and doesn't work with spin to win. gorou way better. i don't understand why you kicked him out.
[edit] wait, the change to always buff geo was only on c2? that's quite dumb... at c0 she isn't worth it for geo then.
welp i was already getting her c2 anyways...
@@GenshinYuppe it indeed wouldn't work well with itto CA nor noelle CA, but i dont believe ppl use noelle CA.
but yah, gotta kick some geo pre c2 ;-;
@@GenshinYuppe That is just wrong lol.
In noelle teams Yelan and Furina are generally doing MORE damage than Noelle herself. Even if Gorou worked in that team he wouldn't be better than Yelan.
Wait, did you pronounce pyro electro cryo hydro as *F*ech?
PHEC no? some ppl also say PECH tho
In the Pyro section you didn't speak of xilonen and arlecchino does she even work with her or synergy issues. Cuz Arlecchino really doesnt need the heals and kazuha genrally gives more resistance shred.
i had her show briefly in in her most common team(benny, kazu, yelan) part in the beginning. she can be swapped in for kazuha for a side grade. her buffs do last longer and she’s better in multiwave but kazu has grouping. ur right how she cant use xilo heals, but buffing wise, xilo and kazuha generally provide the same amt :)
her buffs do last longer but considering the rotation is 18 seconds long kazuha can buff her entire Feild time so that's kinda irrelevant. (yelan variation)
so itll depend on how u want to do the rotation, if u save kazu last, u def will last her dps window but u will likely run out of bennet. going kazu first makes it so u cant double swirl but u keep bennet circle at least.
i like the presentation in this vid, thank u for the detailed guide!
tyty
Dont have furina so...Itto, Gorou, Xilone and Bennett could work?
at c2
it wont shred at c0 as there are not 2 of the PHEC elements on the team. this as mentioned above gets resolved at c2 xilonen
Is she a viable support for noelle ?
yes. u just need to make sure u have 2 geo at max. going double hydro like noelle, xilonen, furina, and yelan could be very nice
@@yun3_ coul i replace yelan with Barbara with thrilling tales?
@@papydia4627 yes you could :). it wont have as much damage as using someone like yelan, but it def works. U could also use xingqiu to push the dmg a bit higher + get that interuption resist
I'm still having a hard time understanding Xilonen at C0. What exactly does she do?
Is she going to be significant in a Wriothesley melt team?
my first video goes over xilonen’s kit goes into it a bit further, but basically, if she has 2 teammates with any PHEC elements, she will give 36% resistance shred. If she does any crystalize reaction with the hero artifsct set, she will give 40% dmg bonus to said elements of the triggered reaction
I know its not for everybody, but I think her c2 buff for electro characters is very interesting. 1 team I can think of is Cyno, Healer Nahida/Baizhu, Furina and Xilonen since I always had issues with Cyno's energy and his burst downtime in a team like this. Another is Raiden(c2) hyper with your usual sara and bennett as the gigabuffer, basically replaning Kazuha. That's gonna just make your rotations rotate much faster, pretty much enabling a 100% uptime on Raiden's burst. Don't know how Bennett buff is gonna allign with the other characters cooldown tho, but it sounds fun in concept.
my friend if he can somehow snag c2 would probs use that cyno team with nahida. but im super curious how an ult spammy team like raiden sara could perform tho
I can only see my navia getting buffed😮.. and thats it. . if she had some sort of interruption res in her c0 variant it would be nice ... But i guess dehya and zhongli will do that part.
And all are saying she is as good as kazuha...
Vv is good but grouping is a thing too .... Don't know why elsewhere teams i will ditch kazu for her..
For me she seems pure nische unit still i will get her. .. skipped both kinich and mualani
we technically got 1 instance of a crystalize shield xd. But navia is honestly getting a rly nice buff tho when u do pull xilonen. Cuz navias currently unable to get a kazu lvl support, but now she can and xilo also fills the sustain slot too :)
@@yun3_ yes exactly just navia ... i thought everyother team.. and the next team that can use xilonen is ayato hyperbloom ... thats it.. no other unit can fully function with her...
would plunge hutao still be better if you dont have hutao c1? in my mind, xilonen/hutao would require you to still get hutao c1, but xianyun/hutao would allow you to ignore hutao's c1 which can make plunge superior in terms of comfort and cost?
ur right. i didnt really consider cost wise with plunge hu tao being 1 cost cheaper than c1 hutao with xilonen. If u dont have c1 hutao, i think u may be correct on how it may be better cost and comfort wise
I'm wanting to try and make my dream cat team work. Xilonen, Kirara and Lynette as supports for DPS Keqing.
u may need to replace on of the cats (probs lynette) so xilo can do her thing 😞
how about mualani + xilonen? Xilonen gives a huge hp buff that could help mualani even more. Mualani + Xilonen + Xiangling + Sucrose?
i go over mualani specifically at 7:10 if u want to see it, but basically, she’s rly gud for mualani as it makes it easier to play over a kazuha vape and does more dmg than a zhongli vape.
the team looks solid, but i will say u can also try taking out sucrose for a nahida if u want to try a burn vape team👍
Raiden hyper? She has a lot of possible teammates
Her with c1 Chiori will be awsome
@@roa.reyescortes298 and with c2 xilonen, a mono geo team like itto, chiori, gorou, and furina would smack i bet
@@yun3_ yeah, but Chiori c1its the half of cost. Just say so, cause i al ready have Chiori c0
@@roa.reyescortes298 just remember that without xilonen c2, she cant be in a team with 3-4 geo ;-;
@@yun3_ You just put xilonen, c1 chiori,
Furina and another non geo. Chiori Will cook. They debuf Will aply geo and hydro
what about raiden team with xilonen c2? i guess you need to ditch up cheveruse
Honestly it'd be pretty crazy with a 12 second raiden burst
thinking of a sub-dps xilonen with navia, furina, and sigewinne, i'm honestly so excited for her since she frees up a lot of teams from circle impact.
xilonen’s only source of dmg in this team will be 2 basics, 1 skill & burst, so keep that in mind :) perhaps replacing siegewinne for another subdps like yelan cuz xilonen heals?
she doesn't have any off field dmg, so she isn't really a sub dps. if you mean building her for dmg then on fielding her, she'd be fine, but you'd be better off running her as your healer and replacing sigewinne for yelan/bennet/xingqiu (ignoring bennet of course if you really don't want circle impact)
are there no raiden teams with xilonen??
there def is
- u can do say Raiden national with raiden, xilonen, (XQ, yelan, furina), and xiangling
- hyper carry also works well now with raiden, sara, kazu, and xilonen replacing bennet
Thnxx, ill try the hypercarry team (ill finally hav to build sara now😂)
i think furina and bennet would work fine in the sara slot if u dont wanna build her :)
btw i'm def pulling xilo bc i like her design and when they released the rooster of natlan i was eyeing her already whether she is good or not and she turns out to be the meta loll
ALSO I LOVE THE MUSIC U PUT IN BEHIND. when that plays on natlan i'm crying 😭😭😭
and let's not forget xilo can sustain too
and can i ask how great of an upgrade she is for navia?
i thought she was pretty and then was like “zamn, she gonna be geo. its GG🫠” then the kit released 😤.
nah when they put that music in the vachima quest, had me tearing up🥲 if u havent done the archon quest yet, its so gud.
actually rly good upgrade for navia cuz she can run something like xilonen, furina, and probs benny/yelan and cook. i think rn her most common team is like her, zhongli, benny, XL, though i could be wrong
@@yun3_ i knoooww i tought we lost her then she's meta all of nowhere lol anyways i like it.
i haven't done the archon quest yet but today or tomorrow. WAIT WAIT WAIT does that music takes place in the quest? I'm not crying u are 🤧🤧
Fr tho natlan music is fire!
I see i see i might even end up pulling for neu and navia too did arle got a meaningful upgrade too? Also i need to ask u smth, having Kazuha confuses me. If i have Kaz do i still need her? I mean she looks gorgeous, W design, ++exploration skills, 2 sides on spiral abyss or i guess there are teams featuring both too? What could go wrong tho lol
yes. the music plays once at the best/worst time. and yah, natlan ost is such a vibe.
i like to think shes a kazuha who can sustain, so if u think that would help ur team, then go for it. i got c2r1 kazu but still goin for her cuz aesthetic + meta. you could put both on the same team or split them up, either would be gud 😤
@@yun3_ can't wait to add it to my playlist.
ahaha ur kaz is way more better and i'm pulling too, she looks gorgeous also having a new meta char sounds right and amazing. also i'm so glad she survived the beta hopefully lol.
her sustain also helps in furina teams ig too so they'll work great
Bro ur Heizou doing pretty giod job in the background,is he c6?
he is c6 lvl 70 4 9 9 r1 skyatlas and honestly was not bad at all. I do have c2 furina and not too relatable artifacts for my units tho. XL and especially furina contributed a lot of dmg
I thought her burst healed. Did they drop that?
her burst still heals. As long as u have 2 PHEC characters.
@@THESocialJusticeWarrior it does, like what theanarchist says. that’s also why im replacing bennet as the healer in many teams 👍
A c0 xilonen is an upgrade over bennet in a diluc plunge team?
Even if hes c6?
@@theanarchist4312 yep. + no more circle impact. just know u will need to do like diluc skill > xilonen > xianyun > hydro (the last 2 can be switched), cuz u need activate the hero set by crystalizing pyro👍
@@yun3_ Ty for the info and the rotation.
@@yun3_ . Lol xd, xilonen is always worse than bennet if the character is attack scaling, just the difference of 170% atk with 15% dmg bonus over 40% dmg bonus and 36% res shred. Even in vaccum bennet is better but with xianyun res shred the difference widens.
@@AlwaysThirstys xilonen actually still dmg amps more than benny for atk scalers. using a 750em kazu vs 13 talent benny with fav, my kazu amps my miko 18% more dmg than bennet. no freedomsworn in the test👍
Thanks for the vid. I’ll probably skip her and save for more Nahida cons
gl with that cuz c2 nahida is pretty dam op
nahida c2 is about a 19% - 25% damage increase to all dendro related reactions.
What characters can i put with my C6 Chiori and C2 Xilonen?😢
gaw dang. honestly anyone. u can probs just go gorou and furina seeing how u can now go 3 geo cuz c2 xilonen. a hypercarry chiori👍
@yun3_ ooh nice.. I thought i had to remove Gorou. I'll just add Gorou and Furina in that team. Thank you very much. 🤗🤗🤗
yah np :) gl on ur pulls. im def getting c1 but will try to c2
So xilonen, tighnari, beidou and fischl isn't viable?
Xilonen isn't viable w any dendro dps so no
it def can work though i dunno how gud itll be if tighnari is ur main source of damage. but if ur just using playing quick swap and everyone contributes dmg, then honestly go for it
@@yun3_ I always thought of having offensive dendros in aggravate teams but it seems Nahida is an exception as you pointed out, so a kazuha that heals sounded good in my head. I'll try it out nonetheless
@@thereach4321 i have alhaitham and i honestly dont like his spread team(miko,fish,yao yao) over hyperbloom (yaoyao,em raiden, hydro). i do love electro dps in aggravate as u can see with the footage in the back cuz kazoo go brr.
do tell the results :)
Isn't Beidou + Tighnari a bit awkward for you? You'd be better off playing Nari, Nahida, Fischl and Kuki.
Hu tao is gonna be insane with Yelan, Furina and Xilonen
yah i am super curious now that hutao can reliably get full "kazu" buffs for her entire dps duration
Hu tao players are going to be balling with her you literally get 36 % shred and 40 % elemental dmg instead of plunging attacks which will surely be an upgrade and even more for c1 owner's
I’m sorry but I find it hard to believe swapping out bennet and keeping kazuha and Xilonen who are doing the exact same thing in mono pyro is a damage increase. The returns on those res shreds are so minute at that point.
we are def getting a abundance of res shred but also getting the 40% dmg bonus from the set. this allows for our dps to use an atk cup instead to make up you not using benny.
I do not know how much of a dmg increase it would be, but i still would assume it is an increase nonetheless the less. I can def test once i get xilonen tho
bennet is irreplaceable, he is the definition of xilonen but better. - can almost double the damage of your attack scaling dps while xilonen is more of a 60% buff, and they both have healing except bennet has 1.4 seconds of Feild time compared to xilonens 4 .
im confused. xilonen amps damage more that bennet, literally. u can go in game and just test anyone with bennet vs kazu. for me personally, kazu amps my dmg 18% more than a bennet burst without freedom sworn at 750 em. so yah xilonen will be better in mono pyro
her field time also is like .5 seconds if u dont need burst not 4?
@@yun3_ you’d have to upload your testing, but at baseline unless your using an attack substat/passive weapon on your dps, bennet will pretty much always outperform kazuha…. Unless the enemy has a ton of resistance to what you swirl.
C1 Bennet gives about 50% attk boost to dps under 2.4k attk and another 12% DMG bonus on the new set…. At C6, it’s 27% if your dps is pyro. These are insane stats.
Between goblets, artifact 4pc, and weapon passives usually giving a baseline of 120 DMG% it’s common a 35-40% DMG bonus even gives a character a 33% DMG increase. This goes down further if they have bonus % in their kit like arl. This means shred is the single deciding factor on whether kazuha buffs more or not. And typically on enemies with 10% resistance, the answer is no but it brings his number in line with a bennet with no artifacts.
frik i tested on the dendro chicken who got a res of 25%, will check again against a boss with 10%. will update
Bro what the hell is with that c2
it's really not that huge depending on the team. for units like neuv it's pretty big since hp buffing is virtually non-existent, and it's basically needed for mono geo since without it you only get the res when she's on field, but for teams like mono pyro/vape, it's nothing crazy (still good, just not the level of increase c2 nahida/furina can be)
agreed. for hp scalers/double hydro, it goes pretty hard. And when using electro units, that burst reduction is kinda crazy. places it can be weak would be like a childe benny xiangling where only xiangling benifits
I am planning on pulling for Xilonen. Is she a good support unit for Dehya?
it would depend on the team but i would say yes. vape or “mono” pyro, she can be a good pick. i could explain more if ud like if ur curious on a particular team
@@yun3_ Yes, that would be fine with me
@@TylerChou059 Ok, so dehya does not rly have good scaling via her atk or hp if u have c1. as such, you are better off investing in other stats such as dmg% and crit which everyone scales the same off of.
with mono pyro, as mentioned in the vid, it will be an upgrade from bennet as 40% dmg bonus + 36 res shred > 800-1000 atk which dehya doesnt use atk all too well cuz her low scaling.
a double hydro core with furina, yelan, dehya, and xilonen would also work well as everyone give dmg%. this also gives hydro res which buffs our hydros and dehya if she has c1. this team also cant use kazuha over xilonen as he wont be able to swirl pyro usually (no buffs)
tldr, very gud. lmk if u need any clarifications ☺️
@@yun3_ I don’t have Furina as my hydro healer. The only other hydro healer I have are Barbara and Kokomi
@@TylerChou059 remember that xilonen burst heals if u convert 2 of the phec elements, so dont worry about healing :)
Not a single word about double geo. Same old boring teams.
geo dps + xilonen = double geo? we cant have anymore geo if ur thinking about that or else no shred
@@yun3_ Xilonen + Chiori is the core I'm iterested in. Unless Xilonen doesn't make constructs, then is sucks.
she does not make constructs so youd need chiori c1 or xilonen c2😞
@@yun3_ They couldn't resist in the end, so lame.
I dont get it when u say replacing Bennet would not be possible to ""swirl" " pyro with Xilonen, even with Xiangling on the team (????)
She doesnt need to react with the PHEC elements, they just need to exist! 2, at least. Then she will shred thought her skill.
The only time she needs to react with the element is to buff trought the new natlan's support set.
sry shred wasn’t the best word to use, but i just meant how to get the full buffs, u need to get an elemental absorption.
I like seeing geo bozo’s cope for a geo character that will help this flawed element
people really need to let go of the "geo is bad" idea. noelle with furina is a solid team, zhongli is an ok shield unit for players that want one since he gives some buffs to the team, yunjin is niche as hell but on par with bennet for NA based units, navia is one of the better dps units as of now (and only going to get better with xilonen), chiori is a solid off field dmg option that excels in her niche, and now nilonen with 36% res + healing + 40% dmg. and even if that has more to do with the character's kits themselves rather than the element, xilo and navia's artifacts/kits are centered around crystalize, and units like chiori are centered on geo constructs (something unique to them). honestly, cryo is in way worse of a state then geo rn
my noelle does more damage than your neuvillette.
dam. i guess im a geo bozo now ;-;
I was initially planning for going fully on Mavuika THE MOTHER and Arlecchino THE FATHER's rerun, but seeing the potential for my magnanimous and demure Dragon Sovereign over my beloved sick doctor and all other teams, Xilonen will be the winner of my 75 pity guarantee ehe
my very mindful Knave and demure cocogaot would love a xilonen on their teams too
@@yun3_ the very demure Cocogoat excellency shall also use Xilonen effectively, shits and giggles aside, Ganyu is my comfort character, and I hope Xilonen will be of great use for her too. As for Neuvi, I simply got graced by God Almighty for getting C2 Furina in 10 pulls, so Xilonen's single target healing won't be a problem
I love my ganyu and even have a plush xd. i hope that xilonen and mavukia can bring melt back cuz i wanna see my 🐐 at the top.
that being said, 10 pulls… congrats. happy for you. nice. 😠
(i also got lucky with c2 furina xd)
@@yun3_ awww that's cute, I also wanted to get some plushies or stuff like that for Neuvi and other fav characters, but in our country, such stuff is simply nonexistent, plus I am looking after 3 people while being a student ehe
I just pray that I can save enough for C2 Mavuika as all archons after Ei get busted C2s. PRAYGE to the LORD (btw happy to hear that you also got lucky, mine was actually kinda like a consolation from God as the period when I got Furina was one of my depressive and turbulent times)
@@zaneaulner4333 jeez that must be super rough. be sure to take care of yourself too ☺️
If i had the money, id gift u a ganyu or neuv plush, but as a college student rn, money can be iffy at times
hopefully there’s more good times to come and ur pulls go HARD. this game also saved my from not good times so I feel u. I’ll be happy to listen if u ever need an ear :)