@@Granglife not as much as he used to be. He just deal more dmg now unlike in the past every bullet will make your enemies run for their lives. And yes I played him also one of my main heroes
great dragon spear will greatly benefit him now since he can use his ult anytime if you have energy giving you movement speed and high attack stats because of its 10% cooldown
Yo it's s you again Hororo on my yt fyp... What a great coincidence. Because of you showing me a video of Granger many years ago, he is one of my favorite heroes to this day... Thank You! ❤
@@imeyuhabruh you can't do the red bullet without them it was the most broken thing in his kit just get the red bullet dash and one shorts even in early game without it it's gonna be rough as skill is easy to dodge but bullet follows even if they fliker away
@@vegitoblue6969umm no its not op wym ur overreacting Its fucking granger he is currently a mm jug making him a easy target Its his last bullet this means ur prob already low so its ur fault for wasting ur flicker
for most granger user. this revamp is something we weren't expecting. since he was not a weak hero. with this revamo i think for the first week we use him i think we will be forgetting that his new second skill doesn't give extra damage and constantly forgetting because our hands has already got used to dashing after doing a basci attack so that the passive ofe second skill triggers but i think this will be hard just like learning a new hero
I speak for myself. All i cared for was for him to get revamp for the better or worse and in hopes he will get Allstar skins just like Moskov and Hanabi
Having a goddamn 100 physical attack with hunter strike must be some of the most terrifying shit i'm about to experience, that Granger is just plain too painful the time he gets his hands on that hunter strike 💀💀💀
nah i dont think theyd go through with this. iirc, Suyou previously had a passive that convert something to Physical ATK but it was discontinued. It’s likely that the same will also happen with this
We will see, just bc something didn't work for another heroe, you think it won't work again Time will tell. Silvanna couldn't get immunity, but masha did
One of the things that makes me laugh about this game is how much moontoon made love to marksman to the point that people dont pick marksman anymore and rather use ruby gold lane over picking marksman😂
@@karthiiraja17 well not entirely. Im not sure if you noticed but after granger uses one ult he remains holding out his cannon, so most likely his megatron skin will maintain the tank form until he casts a skill 1 or basic attack
@@slimslimee4411 now I'm confused during his ult he transforms into a tank and remains as a Tank until he fires the ultimate fully or until u use other skill. The basic attacks will be from humanoid robot form which he uses the same canon from the tank weapon not like his ordinary default weapon where he uses two weapons pistol and guitar Canon . Only during his skill 1 he fires all the bullet and saves the last bullet by mounting his Canon gun on top of him to launch a pink/ purple bullet. This is how transformers Megatron skin is in original server.
I love this revamp especially his new looks and skill effects the only downside is the ultimate doesn't have the third/last bullet anymore so nerf to the skins
@@gwanetayla7683 hope you also read i mentioned "similar", this means whatever he builds with cdr he can have damage he can go with def items and still hurt or he can go with cheaper items but still can hurt "similar" to the lunox before
@@johnkennethbernal3497 flat damage is different from PEN. PEN holds more value, which is why I wouldn't put him on the same level as Lunox. If anything, this is the cheaper version. There are many heroes with conversion, but Lunox wasn't a great comparison This is what I was directing to rather than just saying 1 sentence.
@@gwanetayla7683 hello again, again i mentioned "similar" im not saying the same, it seems youre knowledgeable with mobile legends i hope you also learn the difference between similar and the same, you can watch english language tutorials here in youtube
I'm slowly starting to like the revamp. It have a twist on the concept of resources management. One dislike is his design. Too edge. I hope his voice does better or stay the same.
Granger weapon were powered by demonic power Phoveus monolith were powered by demonic power Phoveus originally have black hair with a bit of white strand before getting astaroth power Phoveus is granger father real?!!?!!!
The ratio is very unfair, it should've been just 1cdr to maybe 0.5 physical. It is there to prevent players building cdr items and focus on damage and not totally wasting cdr bonuses of items, but with that ratio they'll definitely build cdr items more now.
@@Animatorfanfiction11 yes, but compare to Beatrix, the ratio may be there, but you don't actually see players build Beatrix with critical attack benefits, that should've the case for Grangers, but like Hororo, he's actually abusing the cdr conversion when ur not supposed to like in Beatrix.
No bro, 2 is already too much, it was done to prevent players from building cdr items, but with that much conversion, they build cdr items more than ever
well jungle creep increase his stack more than minion, so its still somewhat doable as a jungle, if you snowball him you can get 1000+ stack in under 10mns and just start spam all his skill at that point
@@leonmystique9372 i see him more as now that he actually can do both roles instead of where your only option to be somewhat usefull is jungle in original server
Adjust his energy usage on the first skill that it will be better. But as i said b4 as a Granger Main, i still find this damn revamp, so unneeded all he needed was a buff. But of course, the reforge is your legend event is rigged like the latest one where freya won i mean if they go through with it hope they make her able to chase like her role says and thats it.
i mean 1% to 2 phy atk
Damn
40cd = 80 physical atk bonus😮
Granger Mains be like: "Not enough, please revamp him again."
I voted for all the skins rewamped his collector don't even have its own sfx
MORRE!!
@@bennetttheunluckyguy6428yes MORE!!!!
Dawg he never needed a revamp in the first place 💀
@@randompoorlydrawndragon3076 he kinda was bad everywhere
Moonton doesnt want hororo to buld him with 40%CDR
But Hororo will build cdr items more than ever now cuz how ridiculous that ratio conversion is.
Him using the great dragon spear is too absurd
"BEHOLD, MY CRESCENDO BUTT!"
thats what i hear every single time.
Now he becoming Hellsing character
Alucard from Helsing wil be a good collab skin for this granger
mih fo thguohtI iwhat taha stahT
Oh good then, just some few step for them to do official collab, either with DMC or Hellsing or even Bloodborne
Van helsing for alucard, James Moriarty for Granger and arsene Lupin for Ling
Vash or wolfwood from trigun is a perfect match for granger
So they're turning him from your basic burst hero to a scaler that becomes harder and harder to lock down.
He is not a burst hero anymore in the original server
@@REPLAYSYSTEM69 do you even play him 🤔
He is a burst hero in og server
@@Granglife not as much as he used to be. He just deal more dmg now unlike in the past every bullet will make your enemies run for their lives.
And yes I played him also one of my main heroes
@@Granglife right now he is more on physical atk than crit I think some old user will get it
@@REPLAYSYSTEM69so? That's still a burst hero lmao always has been
looks fun to use, im also excited for alice and rafaela revamp
great dragon spear will greatly benefit him now since he can use his ult anytime if you have energy giving you movement speed and high attack stats because of its 10% cooldown
@@xanderr.doctolero2531 i think this is good if u use him as gold, but not as jungler
@@f_muhammadravansyahafif5865did they removed the extra DMG to creeps? If not then he gotta stay in jungle
Hmphh,Revamp Granger....sounds interesting....
Seems like Granger isn't a jhin bootleg anymore
Good isn't enough
He must be..
Perfection.
You are too dramatic, bro💀
Dude come on you commented this exact same thing on another video💀
5:)
Yo it's s you again Hororo on my yt fyp... What a great coincidence. Because of you showing me a video of Granger many years ago, he is one of my favorite heroes to this day... Thank You! ❤
Same
I wish this is his final voice but I know they will change it once his revamp is ready to be release.
They should add back the 6 bullets in his basic attack
They most likely remove the att speed limitation, it would be pretty op
@@Shinonomehakase2 whyy?? those have no function
@@imeyuhabruh you can't do the red bullet without them it was the most broken thing in his kit just get the red bullet dash and one shorts even in early game without it it's gonna be rough as skill is easy to dodge but bullet follows even if they fliker away
@@vegitoblue6969umm no its not op wym ur overreacting
Its fucking granger he is currently a mm jug making him a easy target
Its his last bullet this means ur prob already low so its ur fault for wasting ur flicker
They prob removed it to decrease his farm speed
for most granger user. this revamp is something we weren't expecting. since he was not a weak hero. with this revamo i think for the first week we use him i think we will be forgetting that his new second skill doesn't give extra damage and constantly forgetting because our hands has already got used to dashing after doing a basci attack so that the passive ofe second skill triggers but i think this will be hard just like learning a new hero
been playing him for like 50+ matches now, all i can say he's gameplan doesn't really change except the late game when you already at 1000+stacks
Adapt or die old man
I speak for myself. All i cared for was for him to get revamp for the better or worse and in hopes he will get Allstar skins just like Moskov and Hanabi
@@gwanetayla7683 So... you are one of the brainless players that voted him on the RYL.
Very nice revamped 👍
Having a goddamn 100 physical attack with hunter strike must be some of the most terrifying shit i'm about to experience, that Granger is just plain too painful the time he gets his hands on that hunter strike 💀💀💀
The way he using the weapon is like god eater character 😮
nah i dont think theyd go through with this. iirc, Suyou previously had a passive that convert something to Physical ATK but it was discontinued. It’s likely that the same will also happen with this
We will see, just bc something didn't work for another heroe, you think it won't work again
Time will tell. Silvanna couldn't get immunity, but masha did
Glad they didn’t changed his voice, I still miss the old Leomard voice lines.
Their gonna change the voice the revamp is not 100% complete yet
I like how he holds the cannon very large😂
perks for winning the reforge your legend event
*Pookie, Rafaela got revamped now*
And her new passive is... Let just say... Nice.(In Michael Rosen's voice)
So using thunderbelt for more sustainability is possible for him
No way the effect is half for marksman anyway so it's not worth it.
bad idea, already tried it, better just full burst damage,even brute force is not worth it for me
One of the things that makes me laugh about this game is how much moontoon made love to marksman to the point that people dont pick marksman anymore and rather use ruby gold lane over picking marksman😂
I mean..that's why the old side lane use 2 Fighter, and Roamer always in Midlane
@@Sum_Ting_Wong_ are you talking about dota 2 by any chance? 😂😂
Welcome to the double fighter sidelane META
That practically an old meta that are resurface again
@@Neonus_randompersenus Chou gold and Terizla EXP 🤔
CDR boots and Huntet Strike = 120 Attack. Add some from emblem and kaboom early game
Can’t wait to make granger rage by getting blue buff like I did to Ling and Fanny
Unlike the heroes, you mentioned he is not dependent on blue buff, but good luck to you
@@gwanetayla7683 I mean I know he will complain saying he has no damage ahahaha with the cd damage conversion
As plauer who already play him 300+ matches, buff a lil bit of his penetration and his good, thats all.
Pretty much old suyou passive
Weapon Master Emblem be like:
Old granger is best for me😊
What I got from the video is that Khufra hurts like hell
I can't believe they still keep the 6 bullet
Can't wait to see transformers granger skin
It will remain the same lol
@@karthiiraja17 well not entirely. Im not sure if you noticed but after granger uses one ult he remains holding out his cannon, so most likely his megatron skin will maintain the tank form until he casts a skill 1 or basic attack
@@slimslimee4411 once he moves after firing ult he will be back to normal form instead of staying in tank form that's my guess
@@karthiiraja17 then why is granger still holding out his cannon armed after he pops an ult?????
@@slimslimee4411 now I'm confused during his ult he transforms into a tank and remains as a Tank until he fires the ultimate fully or until u use other skill. The basic attacks will be from humanoid robot form which he uses the same canon from the tank weapon not like his ordinary default weapon where he uses two weapons pistol and guitar Canon . Only during his skill 1 he fires all the bullet and saves the last bullet by mounting his Canon gun on top of him to launch a pink/ purple bullet. This is how transformers Megatron skin is in original server.
I love this revamp especially his new looks and skill effects the only downside is the ultimate doesn't have the third/last bullet anymore so nerf to the skins
I need old granger😢😢😢
if emblem affects that cuz yknow its technically item cdr and emblem cdr this is a massive buff
Granger is about to be welcome in ban section 😅😭
Definitely will be banning him 100% once he comes to official server.
Better cuz Mythic and above, everyone gets to ban someone.
I still like the old one way more
I don't think he needs a makeover, just change his look and keep his skills, Monton.
Now his a op jungler blue and red buff significantly effective to his damage
Meanwhile Argus with 200 attack. 😂
Nah he’s not leaving the ban section tho as Granger main since I started playing I’m excited to play him
Jhin has joined the chat
Granger becoming Marco polo 👉🏽👈🏽
Hunter Strike = 100 physical attack; 15 physical pen.
if i knew this would happen i would not hesitate to not buying his exorcist skin
Same
Meow meow meow
Idk man, he's seems more better tbh
New Granger in my opinion: More mobility, more damage
Drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
ILL be unstoppable
Did you hear about Rafaela's New passive?
Was he revamped? Last time I checked he only had the bullet indicator.
What sould be good if they sped up his skill1 animation abit faster that's all😊❤
Enchanted Talisman could work lmao
Broooooooo I want that red bullet backkkkkk ffs
i like old granger
So, he has Lunox's CDR conversion to dmg. Gonna try him next season
ohhh i see so this is similar to lunox's former passive before when she was literally the god of mages with 100% PEN
right now, she's just trash with a hit or miss win, most mages can onesidedly win against her, she's still good though in VS AI mode
He is not getting PEN lol read bruh
@@gwanetayla7683 hope you also read i mentioned "similar", this means whatever he builds with cdr he can have damage he can go with def items and still hurt or he can go with cheaper items but still can hurt "similar" to the lunox before
@@johnkennethbernal3497 flat damage is different from PEN. PEN holds more value, which is why I wouldn't put him on the same level as Lunox. If anything, this is the cheaper version.
There are many heroes with conversion, but Lunox wasn't a great comparison
This is what I was directing to rather than just saying 1 sentence.
@@gwanetayla7683 hello again, again i mentioned "similar" im not saying the same, it seems youre knowledgeable with mobile legends i hope you also learn the difference between similar and the same, you can watch english language tutorials here in youtube
Hope they don't change his cold blood voice line
Instead of endless i prefer the underrated great dragon spear
So Hunter's Strike will do even better on Granger with this update?
Imagine getting one shot by revamp granger with only magic boot
His burst is reduced he is more reap can spam but damage is less
And theres argus, who keeps being nerfed despite other op heros existing
Still he doesnt know the difference between a violin and a guitar..
Soo does it still converts after having more than the max 40%CDR reach capicity
When will this revamp be applied in original server?
Look at how they massacred my boy…
I think with the old weapon master emblem he could easily cross 1k phy atk.😊
I wonder who gonna on Granger's first skill or Kimmy's first skill spamming.
19 second 😂 but damn this granger gonna rule the game if it wasn't for assassin meta
Clearly a nerf granger 😢
Yoo
Chou nerf too, by you ofkos😂
Its definitely a buff, item like Hunter strike have 10% cdr
Mean bonus 20 physical attack
You comment like that just for the clout i know it
But the first and ulti has no cd tho?
New ult is gay, no damage in early at all@@xanderdanish7603
I'm slowly starting to like the revamp. It have a twist on the concept of resources management.
One dislike is his design. Too edge. I hope his voice does better or stay the same.
Yeah no thanks he's going straight to the ban section '-'
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revamp granger become really top pick when im playing ranked in advance server 😂
When is it coming on original server?
What happen to mp5 speed attack?
I can't find this revamped granger in advanced server was it cancelled?
🤔hmmmm... I wonder if War Axe works well with Granger.... Since Granger always uses skills then Spell Vamp might Work,
Hehehe so I can build ATTCK SPEED GRANGER now?
😋😋🤣🤣🤣
Granger weapon were powered by demonic power
Phoveus monolith were powered by demonic power
Phoveus originally have black hair with a bit of white strand before getting astaroth power
Phoveus is granger father real?!!?!!!
Write that down! Write that down!🗣✍️🔥
Granger can still run a goofy attack speed build tho😂, atleast it's fun usually. PLS DON'T MAKE MOONTON BRING BACK THE ATTACK SPEED REDUCTION.
are moneytoon edging these days? lmao
I like the current granger more wtf are they even revamping this when its clearly doing just fine☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Emo granger 😅😅
I mean he's already dead inside and a dead serious demon hunter
always has been
Hes always an emo
Not enough .. i want to see 1.5k burst damage from his skill
Some said its cancel!
this looks mod version of granger😂😂
New lunox
tf is ml cooking up
@@1.020am some bullshit
The ratio is very unfair, it should've been just 1cdr to maybe 0.5 physical. It is there to prevent players building cdr items and focus on damage and not totally wasting cdr bonuses of items, but with that ratio they'll definitely build cdr items more now.
It not,it actually fair ratio.
Beatrix and and leomord has similar concept (but it crit instead of cdr)
I don't see them being over power.
That hero has its weaknesses, 0.5 is crazy 🤣
His usual build mainly consists of cooldown anyways
Bruh he can't even benefit from cdr it's just some attack no cdr item will give even enough attack as a dhs or even hunter strike
@@Animatorfanfiction11 yes, but compare to Beatrix, the ratio may be there, but you don't actually see players build Beatrix with critical attack benefits, that should've the case for Grangers, but like Hororo, he's actually abusing the cdr conversion when ur not supposed to like in Beatrix.
This revamped is not needed lol
I think it should be 3 instead since cdr max stat is 40 so granger can get 120 physical attack
That a bit too much, he could just buy the cdr shoes + fury hammer and have the highest damage in the early game
No bro, 2 is already too much, it was done to prevent players from building cdr items, but with that much conversion, they build cdr items more than ever
Average granger main
He's too weak revamp and buff him more
“Demonic Energy is not affected by Energy Cost Reduction”
Jungler Granger is dead, just send him to Gold Lane
well jungle creep increase his stack more than minion, so its still somewhat doable as a jungle, if you snowball him you can get 1000+ stack in under 10mns and just start spam all his skill at that point
@@Jimmysim-rq9vl While true, it might be better to let him stay as a gold laner as creeps take a while to spawn and his early damage took a downgrade
@@leonmystique9372 i see him more as now that he actually can do both roles instead of where your only option to be somewhat usefull is jungle in original server
@@leonmystique9372 or.... or????? Hear me out, MID LANE GRANGER
@@slimslimee4411 Capable around magic fighters but of course just get him to gold lane
i am literally first
Bad product, next
I just see another clent with more bullets nothing more
Twirst
The first skill current animation is way cooler, why do they remove that
Because its just him moon walking, it's not like they remove it,they Made the animation work when he walk forward & backward
@@Neonus_randompersenusmoon walk is goated tho
Hororo when there's cd mentioned : 😲😲🥶🥶🥵🤯🫣😫🔥🔥
Hororo chan tell me when granger releasing in official server? Or how to get into advanced server?
Revamp ranger is stupid
Adjust his energy usage on the first skill that it will be better. But as i said b4 as a Granger Main, i still find this damn revamp, so unneeded all he needed was a buff. But of course, the reforge is your legend event is rigged like the latest one where freya won i mean if they go through with it hope they make her able to chase like her role says and thats it.