Castle Super Beast Clips: Stadia Final
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“Common sense has finally hit Google.” Is the best way you could have described Stadia being shut down.
I think the reason why cloud gaming is destined to fail is because silicon valley has no idea how shitty internet service is outside of metropolitan areas. And in some countries even the metropolitan areas have garbage internet.
The programmers definitely know the internet sucks outside of metro areas because the majority of them moved there from elsewhere. The problem has to do with business leaders not giving a fuck because cloud-gaming projects are ultimately an inefficient subsidy for other datacenter projects.
there are still large swaths of urban regions in north america where if you get internet through cable, you have to use a type of modem that objectively doesn't work for any low-latency online no matter what you do
I visited California and then Silicon Valley and tested the internet speeds there. It wasn't that impressive to me and the most I could get was 12mbs down. In my barracks room I get at best 7mbs on a GOOD day. Silicon Valley is delusional as hell when it comes to others expectations
@@GoodlyPenguin of course not silicon valley runs on hype and tech fetishism seeing the limits of technology is impossible to those that live over there.
Let's not forget that when the Stadia was first being talked about, Google's response to the idea that weak internet would be an issue boiled down to "we expect the service providers to improve their infrastructure for us."
Google just knew they couldn't compete with the KFConsole.
I know. "Overheating? That's just the top grill on our console cooking some of our freshly fried chicken!"
@@battlion507 Google: Oh shit, it cooks chicken too? Fuck.
All it needs to do for me is play my pornographic video games and run music hell I brought Lustful Valley and still can't get it past that title screen. As it stands I have been cockblocked by my rig more than the homies
"call in the experts and hope they tell your your way was the right way to do things then ignore them after they tell you your shit sucks" is *literally* IT consulting gigs in a nutshell.
To such an extent that there's an entire subindustry around training management figures to not do that.
Seriously? Wow
They're reaaaally that out of touch, huh?
@@Tamaki742 it's management, they are useless 90% of the time so not too surprising
Excuse me, but I think you meant
"Stadia (FINAL)"
Nah man, this is Stadia (Final part 1)
"Stadia and gamers are no longer friends"
@@EbonMaster That would imply they ever were at any point
Stadia You Can(not) Continue
The only thing I'm shocked about this is that it took this long.
never underestimate googles wallet
@@god47398 yeah it didn't survive on its own laurels lol, just like the epic store. It didn't survive because it made money, it survived because of Fortnite lol
It was foretold, and everyone knew. and then it happened, and nobody is really surprised, shocked or anything
It compared itself, _in public,_ to the Frigging Powerglove and the Frigging Atari E.T. game! *_Proudly!!_* this wasn't fortold- this was _just TOLD!!_
There is definitely the satisfaction of watching a failure you called out, nodding your head, and walking away from the trash fire. I did the same thing after a game the company I used to work at made got flagged for review manipulation because the guy in charge said it was fine to review your own game.
"Stadia died!"
"Oh no!...
Anyway."
Pat saying that people won't just pay for Ubisoft subscriptions on Amazon, yet forgets that people have, will and do simp for corporations all the time.
Stadia couldn't "Lame it out" long enough to win.
Just like x Tekken
I think the reason why netflix (and similar services) works is because it replaces video renting for a smaller fee and a bigger selection. The problem with games is that it's more common for gamers to want to replay games so they often want to own the copy to replay it whenever at a later date. As a kid, when I would rent video games it was mostly to play those with low replayability or to "experience" games without real intention of playing them later. A stadia model would work better for online-only games because, to begin with, those games become bricks once the servers shut down.
Also, it's much easier to watch video with lag rather than play a game with lag.
Also Netflix doesn't charge you a monthly fee AND charge you for the movies you watch.
Woolie and stadia are no longer friends
You wish final, We'll be here again when the servers actually shut down for our real final.
I'm baffled why they'd shut down something that can consistently run fighting games at 60 frames a second.
Edit:. Apparently it was a typo and it was 6 frames a second. My mistake
My man looking like he’s 3 and 87 at the same time.
I think my favorite thing is how nobody ever acknowledged the EA subscription service that charges you I think $20 and the only thing it does is let you play old EA titles and get like a 1% discount on everything else they sell, it's so shitty that NOBODY wanted to make fun of it
It's liked by sports game players, which is essentially a splinter community to the video games in general community.
Because it's like picking on an invalid, it gets you NOTHING.
Reminds me of the mid-2000s when people were worried about Steam and how you would no longer own your games because they would all be digital copies presided over by some corporation.
Fast forward to today, Stadia is like the next level of that where you can't even play games locally on your system, only pay for the right to stream the game from another system. And they act like mandatory lag and the possibility of losing everything you bought isn't a huge issue.
(Though technically a lot of these things can be said about Steam, but at least you can play games locally.)
Well you do actully own the game through steam right? Just a digital version. I think you can even launch most without steam.
Timothy Strohbehn steam also has the benefit is heavily discounted games. Stadia was full priced old games, a monthly service, and ran like garbage. Not to mention you don't own anything.
That's a much steeper downgrade than anything else the game industry has done
...it wasnt already dead? Ive been using past tense when discussing Stadia since it was announced. I mean it is a Google side project.
lads my heart cant take it when you put "Final" in the title now
“Common sense has finally hit google” is such a good quote.
we might be in trouble, stadians
imagine a game as a service but you have to pay 15 bucks a month on top of a season pass
Already getting normal for kids who are growing up with transaction over transaction and didn't know a time before getting nickled and dimed to play kewlbox flash games on the phone and console. 😥
Me at 8:39 : OH! That's where I know you from.
There was a recent Chapo movie ep about Avatar that raised a terrifying possibility for everything being on the cloud. Not just that content could get delisted and lost forever, but they can AND HAVE edited existing content to change it. Remember that part of Avatar when they have the cringey hair-tentacle sex? That scene has been deleted. They took that away from us. The same thing happened in The Wicker Man. They took away the "NOT THE BEES" scene. Like, holy fuck, an all-digital culture is basically entirely ephemeral. We have no history and live only in the moment, and anything that was cringy or no longer trendy can just... vanish.
Jesus, I hadn’t even thought of that.
To be fair, if I recall correctly, "NOT THE BEES" was always a deleted scene. It's why the bees are animated so poorly. I could be wrong of course, I've never seen any cut of the movie, but I'm pretty sure it was never actually in the original run.
Your point stands tho, regardless of how good or bad those scenes are, the fact that a purely digital, cloud based age can just fuck with content to that degree doesn't sit right with me. Not only because of the history aspect, but also because games have enough trouble actually releasing in a complete state as it is. This hypothetical all digital scenerio means that all forms of media have no incentive to actually spend time putting care into any product and will just release it in a "good enough" state that can just be fixed up after the fact.
Patches for games, patches for movies, patches for TV shows, patches for albums, it'll go from being a viable but inconvenient option to *practically mandatory*.
Can companies stop trying to re-invent cable subscription?
The money refuses. The money must make money by charging the money from the money. Something, something, free market.
Stay-de-uh
Staww-di-yuh
The hell is the correct pronunciation of this shit
The first one.
stah, stuh, uh.. not gunna work here anymore that's for sure.
Rip for the Stadians
All two of them
I’ll tell him.
I think closing their internal development as the first move in Stadias now inevitable doom is a great sign of how out of touch with the core gaming market their management is. Notice how, especially in the 3d era, every platform has strong first party support. Not just buying the rights to an exclusive, but actually tying your business's identity to your developers. Even if the Stadia platform sucks ass, A strong team of developers could probably make use of its advantages. They could design for snappy, pick up and play gameplay that benefits from playing on a phone without a controller, they could design to mask the latency, they could incorporate GORGEOUS visuals because they're not dependent on users hardware limitations. The Nintendo 64 was designed with Mario 64 in mind because they wanted to showcase what their console could do. Stadia never bothered to show us what their platform can do.
It's weird I've been playing R-Type Final a lot the past week in preparation for R-Type Final 2
Hello from Texas love you guys
love you too sweetheart
i can't even connect to a discord call.
And what have we learned? Seriously was there any lesson to learn from all this?
That google will accept any stupid idea that their programers have because they have fuck you money and want to stay ahead of possible competition?
that all active attempts at active IP control and online-only DRM in the world of media are locked not behind meaningful government legislation forbidding them, but behind online infrastructure being so dogshit awful that a large majority of the US quite literally cannot handle that degree of control
Cloud Gaming is still a developing branch of the industry that has a ways to go in order to really compete with the pre-established platforms, and there's a bunch of mindless cultists who follow Google blindly.
@@aprendizdefegelein So no new info.
@@aprendizdefegelein It probably wasn't a complete failure in google's eyes because it subsidized other datacenter projects.
its depressing but knowing when to quit and run from a company is a valuable skill in the videos game industry
We're going to need a Stadia: Final Redux
Google Stadia Streaming:
*The End of Stadia*
One More Final:
I Need You
*Destiny 2 on Stadia:* _You Can [Not] Jump_
Ah yes the "you will eat bugs have no privacy own nothing and be happy about it" moment.
"You will wear the mask, you will never leave home again, you will never know the touch of another human again because if you do you're LiTeraLly kILling pEoplE!!"
@@ExaltedUriel it's all sheer insanity bizarro world type shit
Man, why is Woolie always wearing my mother's table cloths these days?
Jesus Christ on first glance I thought this said Castle Super Beast (Final). Fuck
The trauma runs deep.
"look, I'm gonna be real with you We and stadia aren't friends anymore"
@@AnarchicArachnid we were never friends
Look, yall gotta get over this shit. This is a parasocial relationship, not a real relationship, you are not a friend of any of the boys. Woolie even said to stop doing shit like this. This attitude I see a bunch of ppl take is unhealthy and low key toxic. Unless yall are gonna hit me with the "I was just joking" OS. But too many ppl say shit like this for it to all be jokes. Stop being like this about parasocial relationships, this is entertainment, not friendship. I'm not trying to be mean, but this needs to be said. I cant say this on the subreddit because I'd prolly get banned because that place is overly sensitive about media, of all things. Anyway, get over the real non joke part of this weird mourning of a youtube channel that's two years past. Later, dont be bitches in the replies, acknowledge your issue.
@YaBoiiUnclePhil shut the fuck up, sycophant. According to the stats, you're probably autistic by mere virtue of being a #truefan of these jokers.
I came back here because:
"Stadia Final"
"For Real"
20:49 From what I heard, that was basically Microsoft's entire interaction with Japan when the OG Xbox came out. Apart from Sega and From Software of course, cos they're awesome.
Edit: Oh, and Tecmo. Hey man, they did some good stuff. Lol
This is such an interesting situation, because everything I'm seeing about Stadia nowadays suggests that Google initially wanted to pursue Stadia like they would in the past: "we've got this thing in the works, it's a streaming solution, we're looking at video games, the lag was really bad when we started but has gotten steadily better over time, we might talk more about it in a while". Pat and Woolie have talked about this before. It was Phil Harrison, who had a background with the Xbox, who pushed them to treat it like a normal console - "Stadia's here, and you can throw that PlayStation and Xbox in the trash, because we are video games now".
On the one hand, the part of me that loves comfort and familiarity sides with Phil. This is a video game platform, treat it as such. But on the other, the very concept of Stadia as a 100% streaming-only platform already kills any part of the traditional console ecosystem that I get the warm fuzzies for, regardless of business model or marketing or anything. Game ownership and control over your purchases? What's that? And your experience is entirely dependent on your internet connection, which has so many factors beyond your control that it makes your goddamn head spin. So Phil Harrison's idea was to stick to his guns on everything about traditional consoles that suck and not embrace any of the upsides of streaming. Stadia offers the worst of both worlds: severely restricted control in a medium that is defined by the ability to control things, but with no significant drop in financial investment. Pay pretty much the same to get so, so much less. I still do not for the life of me follow his logic in games on Stadia being at full price - absolutely ludicrous.
Doesn't help that they didn't seem to realize that comparing Stadia to then-current consoles was a truly bone-headed move to anyone in the video game ecosystem (which, judging from their lineup of games, was their intended market). Yeah, the Stadia is so much more powerful than the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X, good for you - even if that really meant all that much, the PS5 and Xbox Series X come out in a year and kick the pathetic slice of computing power you deign to bestow upon the masses in the taint. And even if you didn't lie to all of our faces with your false promises of 4K 60fps for every game (along with the very misleading - and therefore, also a lie - implication the games will be at full settings when it is demonstrably not the case), the fact that this is streaming means that you will always, always have RUclips compression fuzziness. If you are someone who wants that premium game experience - crystal clear 4K, buttery smooth 60fps, etc. - streaming simply can't give it to you. At the very least, Stadia sure as hell can't.
That's a spicy title
Only of you consider standard yellow mustard spicey.
It was so fun watching this car-crash, this fiasco, this dumpster fire happen in real time. Gonna miss it.
Cyberpunk gave them a shot in the arm... but when that's your heavy hitter you're just a dead platform walking
21:12 Ghost Peach Hand
14:25 this aged well
Bold of you to assume, young pie stealer.
Waiting for Stadia: Final (Final)
Does anyone know where Pat got that shirt?
7:08 I spy a rogue dog toy.
To be fair, the controller is USB too, so I can still use it long after I got my (free) Stadia Founders Pack. Got a lot of use out of both the controller *and* the Chromecast Pro. What little I tried of Stadia worked surprisingly well for me, but I wasn't playing anything after that free trial of Pro.
So long Stadia, and thanks for the free, 99 dollar value pack of stuff!
Stadia 2: Electric Boogaluna
I looked up that image that Pat was talking about, and I fail to understand what they were thinking with that display.
The designer was totally in on it, and Google knows NOTHING about gaming so they fell for the ultimate prank.
my god Woolie we still have PTSD on the term "Final" hahaha
Xbox turned a profit for the first time in 2012. It took 6 years. Microsoft is not so stupid as to NEVER make a profit on it Pat, come on.
ill still forever hate that the EA service gives you the base sims 4 game but you still have to buy all the dlc expansions to make it worth playing.
in before this vid has to be taken down and edited because their guest is vaping on camera and that's a big no no to youtube......
you do realize there are thousands of channels dedicated to vaping, right?
Is Pat training us to want to chase the blue plushy?
Cause I kinda want to chase the blue plushy.
Is this evergreen content?
The Twitch sub analogy doesn't really work THAT well for this even though I see what you're getting at. Twitch's content is free. I have had an account for like almost a decade at this point and have never spent money on it to watch stuff. Same with RUclips. It's basically free and the only thing I've subbed for is to remove ads for when I use multiple devices. Both of these also allow me to watch whatever I want, WHENEVER I want for free (the only exception being RUclips Premium or whatever shows but no one actually subs for those).
Sub models for big games and TV would never do this, however, even if the shit they had was from decades ago. Stadia was close but they just fucked it up by still making you pay for all your shit
WOOLIE TALK LOUDER OR START TALKING INTO THE MIC!
When is Stadia Final: 2nd Gig?
Rip Addicting Games but with a controller and better graphics for games that'll exist later maybe
You have good taste in avatars
@@KrytenKoro Ah yes, King Mamemon
I was wondering why all the in-my-face, unskippable yt ads for stadia suddenly stopped
Apple Arcade is deeply underrated as platform. The fact that it just works and doesn't have any stupid shit attached to it shouldn't be a huge achievement--but apparently it is because nobody else has done it yet besides GoG.
Final about time
what clip has the nintendo v microsoft discussion?
Cloud Gaming: Didn't work out 10 years ago, didn't work out now. See y'all in 10 years?
Honestly, I think they didn't shut it down completely just because it is legally complicated to kill off a service like that.
I mean, it s definitely a far less sexy "future of all gaming" concept than VR, but yeah, the principle is the same. There will be attempts again and again pushed by businesses and enthusiasts until it will stick.
Woolie, keep telling us about you playing World of Warcraft and Monster Hunter back in the day.
What was pats past predictions on stadia dying on past episodes?
What about "X-box game pass" ?
Ps: The doggo bits were favourite.
Did that one exclusive game ever ship?
Yes: (rushed, buggy and broken) or pretty much no: (couldn't release it at progress at time or just didn't make it at all and got stuck on pre-production even though they announced their game is coming, but not enough "game" to show.
Nothing shipped. Beat case scenario the game is on a server somewhere. A server waiting to be shut down.
Luna sounds like basically the worst service imaginable.
Isn't exactly how Amazon prime video works? You have the amazon prime shit but you have channels with other shit that you have to pay.
@@ricardomiles2957 yeah it fucking sucks.
*Google:* _(wants to hype up the Stadia as the best thing to ever happen to gaming)_
*also Google:* _(Erects a literal monument to videogame failure to promote it.)_
Amazon’s plans going to skyrocket because of the Amazon exclusive QuanticDream channel.
Well it's internal dev studios, not maintaining the platform. Stadia is gonna be around for a loooong time...like herpes
I wonder what Alex Hatchkinson is doing right now.
It only took a YEAR of wasted money
If only someone had told them before they wasted all those resources. Seriously, I can understand wanting to try something and failing, but something like this is just super wasteful. Yes it creates jobs and all that crap, but seriously those resources could have gone to developing jet packs for woolie or widespread robotic limbs
Have fun with David Cage.
Amazon Luna is solid stuff, I own it, it's a sub service instead of a "you buy it for 50 dollars and game is gonna go away sooner or later"
What about the "new capable" pricing model they talked about? On its face, 15 bucks for just Ubi games sounds infinitely worse than the Xpass offer.
@@fillosof66689 I don't have an interest in ubisoft games also a lot of the games offered aren't on the Xbox Game Pass from what I know. It's up to the individual and I'd rather own it than pay for a service if I wanted a ubisoft game especially since they're usually 20+ hour open world time sinks
do you guys like keep forgetting Netflix is falling apart
because the goal isn't to make money its to be the monopoly then slowly jack up the prices
But how? It had SamSho!
Ding. Dong. Stadia's dead...
Cloud gaming seems like a wet dream for bad business practices to be taken into overdrive. Imagine a world where these mega corporations pay large sums to get exclusive titles then charge huge monthly fees in order for customers to get access. High server load creating a queue? no problem, pay for priority access and shunt those low tier fools to the back of the line! Account banned for some reason? Good luck getting access to those games every again.
You'd have to be very naive in this day and age to believe that a business that has total control of the product and your access to it won't take the scummiest path.
The cable bundle model will always return in some form because it's the best model for producers and worst for consumers.
Stadia is dead? Man, and after all the ISPs worked so hard to give the entire country better internet. They worked for months just shoving cables into the Earth so that everyone could enjoy their new always online paperweight. That thing that tonally happened.
Good riddance I say. For one, I'll always be against pure Cloud based video games. Partly because I do like physical media for the sake of collecting as well as the added assurance that I do indeed own what I have. Even with Steam, I still have files downloaded on my computer. And with hard drives becoming bigger and cheaper with each passing year, I don't think lack of storage space is really that big of an issue. All this road will ever do is give more power to publishers and ISPs, and less to the consumer.
Bring more guest
Was stadia proto nft
No trigger warning in the title, huh?
That's mean, dudes
The Dreamcast wasn't a disaster though.
Sega was the disaster.
If Sega hadn't fucked up with the Sega CD, 32X and Saturn all releasing within the same 3 or 4 year span, the DC would have stuck around. It legit almost single-handedly saved Sega from having to leave the console market based on US/UK sales alone.
And its games library was strong. Especially if you like fighting games or Racing Games or niche games like Lodoss War and Gundam. It's actual life lasted well into the Wii / PS3 / 360 era.
...that is a good meme template though, and emblematic of failure. Not gonna' lie.
If only if there was some kind of show to demonstrate the lead up to it's downfall in an entertaining way with a plethora of Simpsons references.
A sort of explanation of, say, whuh happun. . .
Was Assassin's Creed 1 the sole thing Jade Raymond was involved with that succeeded? How does she keep getting work?
I remember she was a presenter at The Game Awards a few years back and tried to make a snide joke about how David Hayter is the only voice for Snake with Keifer in the audience, only to immediately misread the winner of the award which caused a bunch of confusion. She is just the master of putting her own foot in her mouth.
I think people will mistake this for bitterness, but I sincerely suspect its linked to her being a young, prominent female industry figure. The suits have wanted to get that quota up for years, the issue is usually a lack of suitable candidates rather than genuine sexism, speaking as someone who has worked in recruitment in that area.
PAT STOP SAYING STAHDIA, ITS STAYDIA FOR FUCKS SAKE
29:41 And it's satisfying because:
--It wasn't your fault, you are 100% in the right in that situation
--The bosses/managers did this to themselves, and wind up eating massive shit for it or getting fired to work at a 7-Eleven for the rest of their lives
It happens WAY too often in businesses. There's countless tales of people that have had clueless, ignorant superiors in their workplace that let their power/position get to their own head. It's almost an epidemic at this point with how widespread it is, like how the state of Delaware declared white supremacy to be a public health crisis. These mental cases in the workplace are going undocumented for some reason and we should actively invest on external research groups to tackle it.
To this day the attitude for stadia for me has been colored by this one comment i saw that went "what are even the chances you're going to play some of your games 5 years from now?". An insipid bout of horseshit logic based around ideas so absolutely insane no one would know how to explain why its insane cause no one who isint fucking evil would ever even consider saying that. It was based around convincing people that a bad deal that wrenches control even further out of the consumers hands was not just a viable option, but the only fair way. It came in, antagonized the people it wanted to sell to and tried to kill the legitimacy of games. Good fucking riddence to worthless garbage i say.
Google and Games are not best friends any more.
...
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.... *eye twitch* ...
I saw Jade Raymond's tweet about leaving Stadia and saying she was so proud of all the work her and her team did and what they accomplished. I'm still trying to figure out what that "work" was.
Developing a game is still work even if the game gets canceled, your comment is pretty ignorant.
Who's the elderly Asian lady?
Guys game pass exists lmao