My World War Two Schlueter Helmets

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  • Опубликовано: 26 янв 2025

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  • @austoncurry1076
    @austoncurry1076 3 года назад +2

    Been collecting Helmets most of my life. I enjoyed your video. Nice collection

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  3 года назад +1

      Thank you. I am always adding to my Military Collection. I have about 130 helmets right now.

  • @AmericanMilitaryHistory
    @AmericanMilitaryHistory 3 года назад +3

    Out of my 15 M1 helmets and of the 6 ww2 M1's I've got I've only got one Schlueter. Interesting story with that is it's and rear seam swivel bale so I thought it was a post war helmet but I could never find the heat stamp then one day I decided to take it out and look at it and I found the heat stamp about 2 inches to the right of where it is usually and I nearly had a heart attack when I first saw it. I've been wanting a Schlueter for a little bit now and I don't see to many helmets around where I live so it was extremely happy to see that.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  3 года назад +1

      Heat stamps can be in weird places sometimes. I think I have close to 20 Schlueters now. That's great that you got one for your collection. Hopefully you add more in the future.

    • @AmericanMilitaryHistory
      @AmericanMilitaryHistory 3 года назад +1

      @@JonBoyMilitaria I'm trying too.

  • @thelizardking3807
    @thelizardking3807 7 лет назад +6

    Not sure if I've said this or not but I really like that you say what you paid for each one

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад +1

      The Lizard King I just think it's good to put that out there. I don't understand why some guys feel that have to hide that info. I guess they are afraid someone might tell them they over paid for something. That's part of collecting sometimes you get deals, sometimes you pay fair value for something and at times you may end up paying more than the actual value. Sometimes we as collectors have to pay up for items that we really want. Especially if it is rare, uncommon or hard to find.

  • @philheavin9497
    @philheavin9497 7 лет назад +2

    great video man i always enjoy your vids

  • @reneblacky
    @reneblacky 2 года назад +1

    Great vid Mate mines a 309A swivel with the later OD straps. G'day from Melbourne Australia

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching. Congrats on your helmet.

  • @nickharding7623
    @nickharding7623 7 лет назад +1

    Another group of awesome helmets!

  • @thurin84
    @thurin84 7 лет назад +1

    great video! good breakdown on schleuter production!

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      Thanks man, I was trying to cover a lot of ground with this video.

  • @tsrorst2792
    @tsrorst2792 3 года назад +1

    I recently won a Schlueter with a McCord on ebay for about 51 bucks, just shells. My first ever Schlueter, has some hefty dents at the crown where you'd expect to see them, but what I found kind of cute about it was that on the inside of the shell you can sort of see an 'S' shape where the dents were deepest, how about that?
    Thanks for sharing your collection :) Making me want to keep a closer eye on my local antiques stores!

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  3 года назад

      Thanks for commenting. All Schlueters have the letter S. Sometimes they are hard to see because either they were painted over or they have faded over time.

    • @tsrorst2792
      @tsrorst2792 3 года назад +1

      @@JonBoyMilitaria oh yes, the stamp is quite visible and I got very lucky with a nice heatstamp, I was referring to the happenstance dents on the top, where the shell collides with the ground when dropped and such

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  3 года назад

      Oh okay cool

  • @kilo393
    @kilo393 7 лет назад +1

    You have a really nice collection man.I mostly collect Vietnam War era stuff, but hopefully I can get my hands on a WW2 era m1 helmet one day.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      Thanks. WW2 helmets are out there. Check antique stores, flea markets, ebay, etc...

    • @kilo393
      @kilo393 7 лет назад +2

      JonBoy09 thank man.I was able to get a fixed bail, front seam, M1 helmet.Might be a McCord, but Im not sure.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      Awesome congrats man.

  • @WhiteBirdPlays
    @WhiteBirdPlays Год назад +1

    Hey Jonboy, any idea if there is a chart showing production dates for Schleuter? I have a 98A and was curious when they did it

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  Год назад

      Hey. There is a chart that was put together by several collectors. I added some of mine to that chart in the past as well.

    • @WhiteBirdPlays
      @WhiteBirdPlays Год назад +1

      @@JonBoyMilitaria I appreciate the input. Any idea where to find that chart? When I found one there was never a 98A which seemed weird to me

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  Год назад

      @@WhiteBirdPlays Do you have instagram? If you do I can send it to you or I can send it to you through my JonBoy Militaria Facebook page

  • @JH-xf3zr
    @JH-xf3zr 6 лет назад +2

    Are Vietnam helmets taller than a regular ww2 helmet because I bought an M1 shell that’s Lower than my Vietnam era helmet?

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  6 лет назад

      Javier Hiraldo WW2 McCords are usually a little taller than the Schlueters. Sometimes the height and shape of the helmets isn't always exactly the same. There may be little differences that you will see sometimes.

  • @Feeeeeeeeeeeesh_10
    @Feeeeeeeeeeeesh_10 2 года назад +1

    I got one rear seam can’t make out the stamp but there is clearly a 4 then s on the bottom also it still has the original chin strap.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  2 года назад

      If you for sure see the S then you definitely have a Schlueter

  • @reddevilparatrooper
    @reddevilparatrooper 6 лет назад +1

    I just found out I have a front seam swivel bale Schlueter helmet marked 4 A on top which was above the front brim and at the front brim is a big letter S. So what do you think what I have? Would love to know.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  6 лет назад +1

      If it is 4A for sure then it would date to January 1943 and would have originally been a fixed bale. Sometimes numbers were lightly stamped and faded/wore out over time.

    • @reddevilparatrooper
      @reddevilparatrooper 6 лет назад +1

      @@JonBoyMilitaria= Hey thank you. I think I messed mines up. I picked it up around the early 90s for free a friend gave it to me and it was white in color along with the helmet liner. I think the color must have been for the Navy. I had spray painted it with a newer OD green paint on both the helmet and liner and put on a 1980s M1 snap on chin strap and a 1980s sweat band. I wanted it to look like the infantry helmet that I was issued with from 1986 to 1988. Is there anything that I can salvage it's value? Back in the Army we did spray paint our helmets once in a while especially during inspections and get new camo covers and chin straps to replace our field ones. I had no idea what the value of these helmets were back then. Helmets were just helmets until a few years ago when I saw on the internet that WWII made helmets were going up in price. Ooops! I think that I really messed up now. Wow! I really feel stupid now.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  6 лет назад +1

      @@reddevilparatrooper Thank you for your service. Alot of guys back in the day had no idea how collectible weapons, gear, helmets, etc would be. The white probably was due to Navy use. You could remove the paint and get back to the white. I have done some videos showing how I remove paint from helmets and liners.

    • @reddevilparatrooper
      @reddevilparatrooper 6 лет назад +1

      @@JonBoyMilitaria Cool! I will check it out. I think its bad. I painted a white horizontal NCO stripe on the back and both sides I painted in black border on white the 4th Infantry Division patch using plastic modelers paint. My old unit patch the 4th ID. The center with a small circle and 4 arrows pointed north, south, east, and west with stars is supposed to be lime green. The joke about our divisional patch was it represented ( 4 Lieutenants going North). The 4th ID never went into combat during D-Day on Normandy with division or regimental insignias on their helmets. Some units of the 29th Infantry (Blue and Grey) and for sure majority of the 1st Infantry (The Big Red One) did display their divisional patches on their helmets in combat. The 101st Airborne had the 5 suits on the playing cards for each regiment in the division. A few years back I wanted to paint it with the regimental markings of the 508th Parachute Infantry ( Red Devils) of the 82nd Airborne. The research I did was hardly any Paratroopers in the 508th because it was a new regiment in the division for the Normandy Invasion that they had brand new helmets issued to them during training stateside and were given a regimental number after they had graduated Airborne School at Ft. Benning and shipped to England and assigned to the 82nd Airborne along with the 507th. To replace the 504th who was still fighting in Italy. I am proud to have been a member of the 1/508th Inf (ABN) because of the Panama Invasion of 1989 and was with them. The battalion was the best unit I have ever served with in the Army not just because we were Paratroopers and we did well in combat with the least amount of casualties. These guys were the craziest guys I have ever met on this planet. These men loved to jump, drink, fight, and have pride in the battalion. If a soldier didn't want to be there, we sent him packing to a regular infantry unit or out of the Army. Being there was purely voluntary. Anyway I love your videos. Your knowledge is awesome. I am just a history buff.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  6 лет назад

      @@reddevilparatrooper Sounds like you had some great times with great buddies. That's awesome. Thank you for watching my videos. I appreciate it.

  • @dalea1691
    @dalea1691 4 года назад +1

    I found an American WW2 helmet in Greece. Been inside a pill box type bunker, for 30 years. This was in the 70's. My father wouldn't let me take it on plane, back to USA. Found all kinds of WW2 items

  • @war.helmets9636
    @war.helmets9636 2 года назад +1

    My earliest Schlueter is a marked 70A S, it was used by the 2nd signal battalion of the 2nd Infrantry. Right now I have 5 Schlueters one fixed bail, and 6 McCords one being post war Korea. The earliest Schlueter I've seen is an M1 stamped 1A S and the latest I've seen is a 594A S.

  • @williamschwartz8597
    @williamschwartz8597 2 года назад +1

    Good Morning Jon boy. Question, I found a front seem Helmet the other day and it's missing the liner and the inside is still od green but some yahoo painted the outside grey to resemble a naval design how much is to much to pay for this and can I find a book or site to help identify the year of mfg and plants for these Helmets I run across? Thanks!

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  2 года назад +1

      I would say maybe $20 - $30.... Helmet of the ETO is a really good book and also The M1 Helmet by Mark Reynosa.

    • @williamschwartz8597
      @williamschwartz8597 2 года назад

      @JonBoyMilitaria Yeah that's what I was thinking, there asking 150 and I about fell out. lol

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  2 года назад +1

      Sounds like they were smoking crack. Lol.

    • @williamschwartz8597
      @williamschwartz8597 2 года назад +1

      @JonBoyMilitaria You got that right, if they wouldn't have painted it then I might try bartering with them.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  2 года назад +1

      Alot of people don't know what they have. They look online and see something that looks like what they have and go with it.

  • @msgt1942
    @msgt1942 3 года назад +1

    I just BOUGHT a helmet with 111A and an s below the heat stamp has original web chin strap and 3Rd infantry emblem on both sides of helmet no liner but good looking pot what year/month is 111A also its swivel bale is that ok?

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  3 года назад

      That would be a Schlueter helmet. It would have originally been a fixed bale. It would date around Mid/late 1943

  • @maxh8052
    @maxh8052 7 лет назад +1

    Very nice

  • @1stcalvarydivisonmilitaria261
    @1stcalvarydivisonmilitaria261 7 лет назад +1

    Another great video! I personally have one Schlueter helmet, and as sad as I am to say I've refurbished it. As it was pretty rusted up, and the rim had a chunk missing from it about a quarter of an inch deep.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      I have done some slight restorations on helmets. I will remove the surface rust and try to clean them up if they are really bad. But I never repaint or anything like that.

    • @1stcalvarydivisonmilitaria261
      @1stcalvarydivisonmilitaria261 7 лет назад +1

      I did it a couple years ago at this point, so I guess I wasn't thinking about it very much, as I had really just started collecting then. Got it for 18 bucks at an antique store. And if I'm not mistaken the heat stamp is 506B, what time does that put it at do you think?

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      1st Calvary Divison Militaria If it is a Schuleter for sure then 506B would put it at 1945.

    • @1stcalvarydivisonmilitaria261
      @1stcalvarydivisonmilitaria261 7 лет назад +1

      It's definitely a Schlueter, the S is very visible underneath the heat stamp, although someone has welded it seems like on the rim and bill, and got real close to destroying the marking. Thanks for the date.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      1st Calvary Divison Militaria It's harder to put an exact month of production on a Schuleter helmet because there is no official chart like there is for the McCord helmets.

  • @rockinghammilitaryantiques3884
    @rockinghammilitaryantiques3884 6 лет назад +1

    Hate to bother you but do you know of any way to identify if the helmet is Schleuter or McCord without seeing the heat stamp

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  6 лет назад

      The bales are slightly different and the profile of the helmet is also.

    • @rockinghammilitaryantiques3884
      @rockinghammilitaryantiques3884 6 лет назад +1

      How are the bales different? Also does the Schleuter helmet look a tiny bit thinner

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  6 лет назад

      @@rockinghammilitaryantiques3884 McCord bales are rectangular and they are bent at right angles where as the Schlueter bales are rounded.

    • @rockinghammilitaryantiques3884
      @rockinghammilitaryantiques3884 6 лет назад +1

      Wait are we talking about fixed bales or swivel

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  6 лет назад

      @@rockinghammilitaryantiques3884 Fixed bales

  • @logancote717
    @logancote717 5 лет назад +1

    I have a M1 helmet that is the same shape of a Schlueter and stamp but has the sand texture and lime green color. Is it possible that its ww2 reused in vietnam war.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  5 лет назад

      Yes, a lot of supplies from World War Two was reissued for Korea and Vietnam.

  • @demotechnic9092
    @demotechnic9092 3 года назад +1

    I have a helmet that has the grit, and is painted dark green, it has a ww2 chinstrap on it, but the serial number is 4-179A, could you tell me the date???

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  3 года назад

      Is it front seam or rear seam?

    • @demotechnic9092
      @demotechnic9092 3 года назад +1

      @@JonBoyMilitaria rear

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  3 года назад

      I am wondering if the 4 is really an M. That would make sense to me and make that a Korean War made m1 helmet by McCord.

  • @docholiday1806
    @docholiday1806 7 лет назад +1

    What website do you shop on when you buy online? You get good deals

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      Alex Swaim I get my things from all over, antique stores, flea markets, gun shows, gun stores, yard sales, estate sales, ebay, craigslist, armslist, word of mouth, facebook, etc....

  • @jimmymarsh2489
    @jimmymarsh2489 Год назад +1

    Is $150 dollars for a M1 Parish with liner, front seam, the steel rim looks kinda beat up dots around the ring but the helmet and liner looks great.
    Do you think thats a good deal or whats your opinion on it?

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  Год назад +1

      Is it for sure a Ww2 Parish helmet? They are pretty rare.

    • @jimmymarsh2489
      @jimmymarsh2489 Год назад

      @JonBoyMilitaria yes sir. The guy who said he would sell it to me is in the military and is in Japan right now but he will be back on the 18 of December and I will have the chance to buy it for $150 dollars. He said that he really didn't want to let go of it being it was in his family many years, but he knows I'm starting to collect and I told him, if anything ever happened to me, he could get it back anytime for what I give for it.
      When I get it, I will let you know and try to send you pictures of it.
      Thank you so much for your help on M1 helmets and most of all, I personally thank you for responding back. I find your channel very helpful

  • @hellhawk1023
    @hellhawk1023 7 лет назад +1

    Hey jonboy, great video. I've sent you pictures of my M1 Shleuter with the 3 swivel bales in the past. Most people agree that it is an m1 with Israeli modification. In your opinion, does that increase or decrease the value of it?

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      guitarguy710 Honestly I would think that it would decrease the value. Most collectors what helmets in original configuration. Israeli stuff is not very collectible to most guys.

    • @hellhawk1023
      @hellhawk1023 7 лет назад +1

      JonBoy09 yeah I wasn't sure being that it is an original shell (heat stamp 413A) and from what I understand, not many were given to the Israeli military so I wasn't sure if it hurts the value for the same reason you said or if it increases the value bc it gives it a kind of rare/uncommon aspect.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      guitarguy710 If it is a McCord then it would date to around January/February 1943. If it is a Schuleter then it would date to late 1944.

    • @hellhawk1023
      @hellhawk1023 7 лет назад +1

      It is definitely a Schuleter. Has the giant S heat stamp lol. thanks for the info though and thanks for the reply. keep up the amazing work.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      guitarguy710 Thanks man

  • @aleksi5871
    @aleksi5871 7 лет назад +2

    Did you get my ssh-39 photos on your email? if you got them whad you think nice helmet?

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      I will look and see if I did.

    • @aleksi5871
      @aleksi5871 7 лет назад +1

      JonBoy09 i dit send you some photos of my finnich m40helmet on your email.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      I will look and see.

    • @aleksi5871
      @aleksi5871 7 лет назад +1

      i will try get ww2 german helmet chell from auction current bid 14 euros it will end in 10 days i try add my bid 2min before it will end i hope i can get it for good price. chell onlu good condition no linen but 35-55% original paint left. dit you get my m40 photos?

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      Hopefully you are able to get that helmet that you want for a good price.

  • @Mree17
    @Mree17 4 года назад +1

    What month and year would a 471A S date to? My guess is early to mid 1945

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  4 года назад +1

      Hey, your helmet would date somewhere around January/February 1945.

    • @Mree17
      @Mree17 4 года назад +1

      JonBoy09 Thanks for the reply and help.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  4 года назад +1

      @@Mree17 You're welcome. Anytime.

  • @Pokerrito
    @Pokerrito 5 лет назад +1

    There's this pawn shop near me and they have a ww2 m1 helmet with liner but missing leather chinstrap in nice condition for $300 and I want to know if it's worth it.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  5 лет назад

      Honestly that sounds really high.

    • @Pokerrito
      @Pokerrito 5 лет назад +1

      @@JonBoyMilitaria yeah I think it is but what do you think they are actually worth cause I don't want my parents to pay that much for a ww2 helmet for my birthday.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  5 лет назад

      @@Pokerrito Honestly without seeing pictures it's hard to say. Is it 100% a WW2 helmet? It could not a post war that is labeled as WW2. Is the liner WW2? Is the helmet front seam? Fixed bale? Any names or markings? There are so many characteristics to think about when placing a value.

    • @Pokerrito
      @Pokerrito 5 лет назад +1

      @@JonBoyMilitaria I think remembered it being swivel bale and the webbing was khaki.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  5 лет назад

      @@Pokerrito If it is just a common helmet with liner then its only worth about $75 - $100.

  • @philheavin9497
    @philheavin9497 7 лет назад +1

    my helmet had fixed bales but they were replaced with swivel also its front seam

  • @keepemrolling2908
    @keepemrolling2908 7 лет назад +3

    Love to see items from your helmet collection. I have always been befuddled by the fact that even though Schlueters made up such a small amount of M1s produced...they don't seem to command a higher "respect" or value. I, myself, love them. Once again, great vid.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      Keep em Rolling Yeah, I agree. There are alot of weird things in the collecting world. Lol

  • @WWIIman1942
    @WWIIman1942 6 лет назад +1

    I really wish we knew more about Schlueter lot numbers.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  6 лет назад

      What do you want to know?

    • @WWIIman1942
      @WWIIman1942 6 лет назад +1

      @@JonBoyMilitaria I mean like dating a Schleuter based off of it's lot number. They're definitely not like McCords as far as simplicity in research.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  6 лет назад +1

      @@WWIIman1942 I have a list that me and several other collectors worked to put together that helps breakdown the Schlueter stamps, etc.

    • @WWIIman1942
      @WWIIman1942 6 лет назад +1

      @@JonBoyMilitaria Really wow! That must've taken some work. Also, how much do you know about factory painting process of the shells?

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  6 лет назад

      @@WWIIman1942 A little bit

  • @kingVintage203
    @kingVintage203 7 лет назад +1

    Good video

  • @MrJason0002
    @MrJason0002 7 лет назад +3

    Great video Jonboy

  • @shiraziwineco.6683
    @shiraziwineco.6683 5 лет назад +2

    Personally, I like McCord over Schlueter

  • @aleksi5871
    @aleksi5871 7 лет назад +2

    super nice collection i hope i can add american helmet to my collection comeday. in ww2 finnich army used helmeta from meny contrys we had wery poor army we sid use ewerythin whad can buy cheap from nother contrys.
    we dit not haw eny tanks or antitank guns when war started. finnich army stardet to use captured tanks an we dit make molotow coktail. 2 man dit try get near enemy tanks and jamm traks whit large pice of wood when nother dit throw molotov on tank engine. it was brutal but it was only way to destroy them.

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      Dang man, I didn't know this. Thank you for sharing this information with me.

    • @aleksi5871
      @aleksi5871 7 лет назад +1

      JonBoy09 1939 russia wanted parts of finland for them self they wanted to get dictanse between finnich border and stalingrad we said no and they dit bring artilerity units in finland and started to chot their own troops and said we did it after that they started air boming finnich citys.
      i did send some photos of my helmet in your email.

    • @thurin84
      @thurin84 7 лет назад +1

      finnish soldiers were very brave. i wish i had more representation of finnland in my collection.

    • @aleksi5871
      @aleksi5871 7 лет назад +1

      milcoll73 ima usa own most of finnich ww2 helmets they dit buy them from finnich army 2013 they are selling original ww2 finnich army helmet for 109.95 dollar (hungarian m38 stell helmet) for that price i can say whort it. in finland people are selling them for 75-175euros
      i dit see ower 10 of them for sale in finnich gun chow im sad i dit not buy one but i got russian ww2 helmet whit red star. relic 70 euros

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  7 лет назад

      I will check and see if I got the email.

  • @budprepper3811
    @budprepper3811 5 лет назад +1

    i always gota pay 100 bux for a good shell and up to 200 complete 😳

    • @JonBoyMilitaria
      @JonBoyMilitaria  5 лет назад

      I see alot of people now days paying higher prices for them. I personally wouldn't. But I know for some people they are harder to find. Thanks for watching. I am always adding to my collection.

  • @ScrimBeat
    @ScrimBeat 5 лет назад

    Schuller -> Schlueter

  • @millguy4254
    @millguy4254 7 лет назад +1

    I posted a video if you wanna see it