I use helmet with heated visor here in Finland. CKX Quest is the model I use. Yesterday it was -21°C = -6°F outside but nice and warm inside helmet. The visor keeps your head warm too. I have also heatet grips and handguards with kind of hippohands by YOKO. I use YOKO Kisa snowbobile jacket and pants with warm base layer, motorcycle protector shirt and knee protectors. I hope there would be Motocamp Nerd store in Europe too. GREAT VIDEO AND TIPS!
@stanmarsh9079 last winter I went for half an hour ride -22°F = -30°C it was bit cold for motorbiking. After that +80°C = +176°F sauna feels nice and warm☃️🥶🇫🇮🥵
@@J8zzy niccce! I just watched video of two russian grandpas going camping in the woods at -15c on two basic china 110cc motorcycles. Makes me want go camping this New Yaer here in TX
There are two steps past pinlock. First, is a dual pane visor. They just work better than pinlocks because they are fully sealed and cover the entire visor. These are good a bit below freezing. Next, and what's good down to WAY below freezing (that is, down past -25C), is a heated (electric) visor. These are available for a lot of helmets, such as Scorpion and HJC helmets. They will NEVER fog or ice, and feel like a nice sunbeam on your face.
I've ridden into June here in NC with hippo hands because it also kept my hands dry and warm from the rain and I could still wear my normal summer gloves for dexterity.
ChrisFix has a good video testing different anti-fog methods. As a scuba diver, I learned that spraying a mixture of water and baby shampoo on the inside of my mask and rinsing it off worked very well.
@@MotoCampNerd I don't know what they used on the SPY motocross goggles but I almost never had an issue back in my racing years. In my tactical goggles, however, I used Cat Crap (an actual product, not from a litter box...lol) and it was great in heat, cold, humid, dry, snow, rain. @shawnperry5991, we also used bay shampoo in our masks back in the day, worked great.
Ride thousand s of miles every year in rain down her in FL, the MSR xplorer gear is great after treated w nikwax, gloves are always the weak link. Thanks for the great tips
I've heard of others doing the same. I feel like it could be overkill if you already have good boots/sock, but if you don't have good boots or potentially crossing deep water, then I could see the benefit. Although If you're doing knee deep or deeper water crossings while riding in the winter, maybe a whole dive suit under your riding gear would be better to keep you dry and warm? Might be stumbling into a new way to keep dry and warm?
I was once out of clean laundry on a weekend long ride. All but 1 pair of white socks. The border crossing gaurd inot Canada gave me a 2nd look at midnight when I stopped at his station. LOL. Red and black riding gear, with a full rain suit on for warmth and the white sock around my neck. LOL. A poor man's version of Snoopy the Flying Baron! Scuba diving goggle anti-fog liquid I found does work on my 100% off-road goggles but have not tried it on a full face helmet's visor.
I went moto camping 8DEC23 but haven't been yet this year. When I installed Koso Apollo heated grips four years ago, I thought they'd be a nice luxury in extreme weather but I use them all the time and now won't own a bike without heated grips. I used two carbon fiber car seat heaters to make a cheap and ultralight heated vest that goes over my base layer and plugs into the SAE port that I added to maintain the battery. I recently switched to a Klim Marrakesh mesh jacket for summer riding, but with layers it's my year round jacket. The Klim Zephyr wind shell initially seems like a ripoff at $99 but it works so well with the Marrakesh and packs smaller than a baseball and miraculously isn't wrinkled when unpacked. It's like alien fabric. I use a Mountain Hardware fleece jacket for added warmth under the Zephyr and that was enough to make last Saturday's 33 F ride to the Bluegrass Beemer Breakfast comfortable. The Zephyr works so well I'll probably buy the $99 Klim Inferno fleece jacket to complete the Klim all year layering system. The Klim gear is comfortable enough that I wear it off the bike so it does double duty. None of it looks like weird motorcycle apparel. Even the Marrakesh motorcycle jacket mostly looks like a regular jacket because the armor is so thin. I've ridden since 1975 and now I'm suddenly a Klim fanboy. If it's wet or very cold, I'll add a water and wind proof one piece rain suit. I have a cheap Amazon special that works surprisingly well but it's heavy and bulky. I replaced it with a bright yellow DuPont seam sealed Tyvek coverall that is water and wind proof, weighs a few ounces and packs the size of a large burrito. It has a very thin hood that easily fits under my helmet that keeps rain from dripping down the back of my neck. I mistakenly bought coveralls with booties but that was a happy accident that keeps my feet dry inside my boots. Seam sealed Tyvek coveralls are a bit baggy so they flap in the wind and they aren't durable enough for years of commuting or technical off road riding, but I love them as an ultralight rain suit.
Mine is already away. I have been using the latex gloves sometimes for years. That is because I'm broke, cheap and paranoid to hook stuff to battery. Ironically my most recent bike is dead. Power was cutting out than died. Had towed now no power to anything. It has driving lights hooked up, came off dangling had dealer reattach. Shortly after 1 light stopped working. It has additional plug for GPS that I took off unit as soon as got chord still there hooked up in line w lights. I will also add a raincoat for top layer
Another easy but kinda stupid method against fogging is using a silicone straw in your mouth as a kind of 'snorkel', then just poke it outside of your helmet near your chin. It means you're breathing through your mouth which isn't ideal but works great in a pinch
I wound up buying an HJC with a heated visor this year after debating it for a couple of seasons while fighting with my pinlock still fogging (year rounder in Portland, OR so same issues as you Ben). I honestly am so mad i didnt do this sooner. One small lead from the battery, plug it in once im on the bike, and it is not noticable. Technically the visors aren't DOT rated, but the helmet is and still has the DOT sticker. You do loose a little bit of field of vision to the heating element but i feel way safer than when i was struggling to see out of the 12% of my bisor that wasnt fogged eventually on a cold wet ride.
Great tips but heated gear a luxury? Not for me, it is a necessity. I've been using vests and now jacket liners since the mid 80s and lijk my rain gear I don't go anywhere without that jacket liner. Even in mid-summer getting too close to the PNW ocean or riding over a mountain might be too chilly, for me, with my mesh jacket. Riding off pavement where a rider is working harder than on pavement it's not as needed but for pavement miles, oh yeah. It's a game changer just like heated grips are. I will admit I'm a big wimp when it comes to being cold and it will ruin my ride rapidly. Keep the good stuff coming.
Hippo Hands are called Muffs,tbh,you don’t need heated grips with Muffs,they are warm enough on their own,been using em for years,MX gloves all year round.
@joelfildes5544 Really depends on the type of riding. If you're cruising back roads under 60mph and trails, you're right, you probably don't need the heated grips. If you're doing some highway sections it's nice to have. Even at backroad speeds under 45°F I prefer to have the heated grips with my thinner gloves because the cold creeps in after an hour or so.
@ Aye,we tend to have less than an hour on tarmac,and as soon as you hit the trails,the hands warm up.Also,I use fleece lined wader socks,fully waterproof,coz the boots aren’t.
@joelfildes5544 Lucky! Where we are central NC it's about 45min of paved backroads before we event touch some gravel or dirt. About 1.5hours north or west to the mountain areas.
Only had a fogged up visor is the rain. I have the $20 Tusk grip heaters on my klr. They are either ok or cooking your hand, but my hands aren't cold. I have a Gerbing 7v heated base layer, but it does nothing at 25 degrees f. I think I may go with the 12v plug in jacket. I have the IXS Montevideo jacket, but I don't think is keeping the air out. I love riding in the cold as long as I'm not cold. I plan on getting the MSR xplorer for Christmas, and try it out snowmobiling. Anyway. Love the channel! I love Oregon! I'll be out there in July to hike South Sister.
Doubling up socks without upping your boot size can (and often does) cause reduced circulation, therefore making your feet colder anyway. Merino wool expedition weight socks are a fantastic option.
Get a helmet with a breath box . I have a heated visor also but haven’t used it more than a few times. Was too hot for riding single track in the winter
Yeah, I reminded myself of that over the past weekend. "I probably don't need the thermal layer, I have my base layer and shell, that's should be fine." Headed home for soup in less than 2 hours.
@smashy_smasherton I've had to use antifog religiously for my glasses. Breath box kinda helps if you get a good seal. Neck gaiter over the face is OK if you don't cover your nose. Still finding what works best for me
@ yeah, I end up just cracking the visor. I use large windshields anyway so if the airflow isn’t cold and wet it does the trick. I see some snowmobiling helmets have electric visors, too.
After learning very late in life how awesome heated grips are, I was planning on installing a heated seat when I install a Seat Concepts seat but a couple of experienced riders told me not to bother because a heated seat doesn't help much. They claimed that sitting on a foam seat for a few minutes warms the seat and heating isn't needed. ???
I saw a lot of useful and practical information with a word from our sponsor who sells curated motorcycle camping equipment that we need. Of course, if you don't like the content you are free to change the channel. Maybe you'd prefer a funny cat video.
I thought this video would be riding technique tips for wet, icy and snowy conditions. I’d suggest that if a person old enough to ride a motorcycle on-road is too stupid to know how to stay warm then perhaps they should just stay at home.
@titaniumquarrion9838 I'm sorry for whatever happened to you to think its ok to call people stupid for something they have never done before. We don't put up with that attitude around here. If they haven't done something before, you expect them to be an expert because they are legal age to ride a motorcycle?Everyone starts somewhere. Be nice.
Electric jacket that plugs into motorcycle is a magical invention.
FOR THE RECORD I MISSPOKE AND MEANT TO SAY "CELSIUS TYPES."
I use helmet with heated visor here in Finland.
CKX Quest is the model I use.
Yesterday it was -21°C = -6°F outside but nice and warm inside helmet. The visor keeps your head warm too.
I have also heatet grips and handguards with kind of hippohands by YOKO.
I use YOKO Kisa snowbobile jacket and pants with warm base layer, motorcycle protector shirt and knee protectors.
I hope there would be Motocamp Nerd store in Europe too.
GREAT VIDEO AND TIPS!
-6° you crazy bro 😂
@stanmarsh9079 last winter I went for half an hour ride
-22°F = -30°C it was bit cold for motorbiking.
After that +80°C = +176°F sauna feels nice and warm☃️🥶🇫🇮🥵
@@J8zzy niccce! I just watched video of two russian grandpas going camping in the woods at -15c on two basic china 110cc motorcycles.
Makes me want go camping this New Yaer here in TX
As a 42 year old man that has been riding for 45 years I totally agree with your tips.
There are two steps past pinlock. First, is a dual pane visor. They just work better than pinlocks because they are fully sealed and cover the entire visor. These are good a bit below freezing.
Next, and what's good down to WAY below freezing (that is, down past -25C), is a heated (electric) visor. These are available for a lot of helmets, such as Scorpion and HJC helmets. They will NEVER fog or ice, and feel like a nice sunbeam on your face.
Great video. +1 for hippo hands. One of the best mods I’ve ever done. Paired with heated grips and it’s a complete game changer
I've ridden into June here in NC with hippo hands because it also kept my hands dry and warm from the rain and I could still wear my normal summer gloves for dexterity.
Agreed!
ChrisFix has a good video testing different anti-fog methods. As a scuba diver, I learned that spraying a mixture of water and baby shampoo on the inside of my mask and rinsing it off worked very well.
@shawnperry5991 I have previously used straight dawn soap polished into the visor and worked well a cheap method too.
@@MotoCampNerd I don't know what they used on the SPY motocross goggles but I almost never had an issue back in my racing years. In my tactical goggles, however, I used Cat Crap (an actual product, not from a litter box...lol) and it was great in heat, cold, humid, dry, snow, rain.
@shawnperry5991, we also used bay shampoo in our masks back in the day, worked great.
Real divers use spit!😎 just kidding, we always mixed baby shampoo and water at the dive shop too.
@@Onemoreguygettingold Done that as well......
Thank you, Ben for those great tips. It’s nice to see that moto camp nerd is now carrying Klim wear, thank you. Looking forward to the next video.
Any tips for eye glasses? Pin locks are great but I still fog on my glasses this time time of year
Ride thousand s of miles every year in rain down her in FL, the MSR xplorer gear is great after treated w nikwax, gloves are always the weak link. Thanks for the great tips
Ever tried using neoprene divers socks? I read the other day that they work great as an outer layer over your socks.
I've heard of others doing the same. I feel like it could be overkill if you already have good boots/sock, but if you don't have good boots or potentially crossing deep water, then I could see the benefit. Although If you're doing knee deep or deeper water crossings while riding in the winter, maybe a whole dive suit under your riding gear would be better to keep you dry and warm? Might be stumbling into a new way to keep dry and warm?
Insulated SEAL socks. Use them for winter diving. Pull them over a pair of wool socks... beautiful
I was once out of clean laundry on a weekend long ride. All but 1 pair of white socks. The border crossing gaurd inot Canada gave me a 2nd look at midnight when I stopped at his station. LOL. Red and black riding gear, with a full rain suit on for warmth and the white sock around my neck. LOL. A poor man's version of Snoopy the Flying Baron!
Scuba diving goggle anti-fog liquid I found does work on my 100% off-road goggles but have not tried it on a full face helmet's visor.
I went moto camping 8DEC23 but haven't been yet this year. When I installed Koso Apollo heated grips four years ago, I thought they'd be a nice luxury in extreme weather but I use them all the time and now won't own a bike without heated grips. I used two carbon fiber car seat heaters to make a cheap and ultralight heated vest that goes over my base layer and plugs into the SAE port that I added to maintain the battery.
I recently switched to a Klim Marrakesh mesh jacket for summer riding, but with layers it's my year round jacket. The Klim Zephyr wind shell initially seems like a ripoff at $99 but it works so well with the Marrakesh and packs smaller than a baseball and miraculously isn't wrinkled when unpacked. It's like alien fabric. I use a Mountain Hardware fleece jacket for added warmth under the Zephyr and that was enough to make last Saturday's 33 F ride to the Bluegrass Beemer Breakfast comfortable. The Zephyr works so well I'll probably buy the $99 Klim Inferno fleece jacket to complete the Klim all year layering system. The Klim gear is comfortable enough that I wear it off the bike so it does double duty. None of it looks like weird motorcycle apparel. Even the Marrakesh motorcycle jacket mostly looks like a regular jacket because the armor is so thin. I've ridden since 1975 and now I'm suddenly a Klim fanboy.
If it's wet or very cold, I'll add a water and wind proof one piece rain suit. I have a cheap Amazon special that works surprisingly well but it's heavy and bulky. I replaced it with a bright yellow DuPont seam sealed Tyvek coverall that is water and wind proof, weighs a few ounces and packs the size of a large burrito. It has a very thin hood that easily fits under my helmet that keeps rain from dripping down the back of my neck. I mistakenly bought coveralls with booties but that was a happy accident that keeps my feet dry inside my boots. Seam sealed Tyvek coveralls are a bit baggy so they flap in the wind and they aren't durable enough for years of commuting or technical off road riding, but I love them as an ultralight rain suit.
Mine is already away. I have been using the latex gloves sometimes for years. That is because I'm broke, cheap and paranoid to hook stuff to battery. Ironically my most recent bike is dead. Power was cutting out than died. Had towed now no power to anything. It has driving lights hooked up, came off dangling had dealer reattach. Shortly after 1 light stopped working. It has additional plug for GPS that I took off unit as soon as got chord still there hooked up in line w lights. I will also add a raincoat for top layer
Another easy but kinda stupid method against fogging is using a silicone straw in your mouth as a kind of 'snorkel', then just poke it outside of your helmet near your chin. It means you're breathing through your mouth which isn't ideal but works great in a pinch
I do enjoy blasting through a big squall, like a cross between riding and being an old timey sailor. Yarr.
Extra large bib overalls and overcoat/ poncho. I would be riding but too much ice.
OBR ADV Gear Grip Mitts are another good option for keeping those digits dry and happy.
I wound up buying an HJC with a heated visor this year after debating it for a couple of seasons while fighting with my pinlock still fogging (year rounder in Portland, OR so same issues as you Ben). I honestly am so mad i didnt do this sooner. One small lead from the battery, plug it in once im on the bike, and it is not noticable. Technically the visors aren't DOT rated, but the helmet is and still has the DOT sticker. You do loose a little bit of field of vision to the heating element but i feel way safer than when i was struggling to see out of the 12% of my bisor that wasnt fogged eventually on a cold wet ride.
Great tips but heated gear a luxury? Not for me, it is a necessity. I've been using vests and now jacket liners since the mid 80s and lijk my rain gear I don't go anywhere without that jacket liner. Even in mid-summer getting too close to the PNW ocean or riding over a mountain might be too chilly, for me, with my mesh jacket.
Riding off pavement where a rider is working harder than on pavement it's not as needed but for pavement miles, oh yeah. It's a game changer just like heated grips are.
I will admit I'm a big wimp when it comes to being cold and it will ruin my ride rapidly.
Keep the good stuff coming.
Stick-on internal visor works great for me as a no-fog fix
Hippo Hands are called Muffs,tbh,you don’t need heated grips with Muffs,they are warm enough on their own,been using em for years,MX gloves all year round.
@joelfildes5544 Really depends on the type of riding. If you're cruising back roads under 60mph and trails, you're right, you probably don't need the heated grips. If you're doing some highway sections it's nice to have. Even at backroad speeds under 45°F I prefer to have the heated grips with my thinner gloves because the cold creeps in after an hour or so.
@ Aye,we tend to have less than an hour on tarmac,and as soon as you hit the trails,the hands warm up.Also,I use fleece lined wader socks,fully waterproof,coz the boots aren’t.
@joelfildes5544 Lucky! Where we are central NC it's about 45min of paved backroads before we event touch some gravel or dirt. About 1.5hours north or west to the mountain areas.
Only had a fogged up visor is the rain. I have the $20 Tusk grip heaters on my klr. They are either ok or cooking your hand, but my hands aren't cold. I have a Gerbing 7v heated base layer, but it does nothing at 25 degrees f. I think I may go with the 12v plug in jacket. I have the IXS Montevideo jacket, but I don't think is keeping the air out. I love riding in the cold as long as I'm not cold. I plan on getting the MSR xplorer for Christmas, and try it out snowmobiling. Anyway. Love the channel! I love Oregon! I'll be out there in July to hike South Sister.
Doubling up socks without upping your boot size can (and often does) cause reduced circulation, therefore making your feet colder anyway. Merino wool expedition weight socks are a fantastic option.
I love my Pearly’s possum socks. Yes they are expensive, but so is all the other quality gear we buy.
@JS-ny8sn I've been wearing them off and on over the past year and they are fantastic. Very thick so helps fill in the boots.
Get a helmet with a breath box . I have a heated visor also but haven’t used it more than a few times. Was too hot for riding single track in the winter
Keep your torso warm, and your extremities will stay warmer.
Yeah, I reminded myself of that over the past weekend. "I probably don't need the thermal layer, I have my base layer and shell, that's should be fine." Headed home for soup in less than 2 hours.
Got any tips for the !@&?#% glasses not fogging up?!
@smashy_smasherton I've had to use antifog religiously for my glasses. Breath box kinda helps if you get a good seal. Neck gaiter over the face is OK if you don't cover your nose. Still finding what works best for me
@ yeah, I end up just cracking the visor. I use large windshields anyway so if the airflow isn’t cold and wet it does the trick.
I see some snowmobiling helmets have electric visors, too.
This Video is a "Game Changer"
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I dont recommend making a drinking game out of it. If you take a shot every time game changer is said you might need your stomach pumped
Man i must look like a total goober riding around with shopping bags on my hands and feet😅
Dont you afraid the sasquatch?
Sasquatch is REAL!
I recommend buying a heated seat.
After learning very late in life how awesome heated grips are, I was planning on installing a heated seat when I install a Seat Concepts seat but a couple of experienced riders told me not to bother because a heated seat doesn't help much. They claimed that sitting on a foam seat for a few minutes warms the seat and heating isn't needed. ???
It's not my pinlock visor that fogs up, it's my glasses
@sdpalmer1411 Yep I'm fighting the fogged glasses battle as well
DO NOT USE TOOTHPASTE ON YOUR VISOR YOU WILL RUIN IT. It’s full of abrasive
Tip 1, kick it and use the car 😅
And again another commercial--i`m out
Um… this is the RUclips channel for a store… so.. kinda makes sense.
I saw a lot of useful and practical information with a word from our sponsor who sells curated motorcycle camping equipment that we need. Of course, if you don't like the content you are free to change the channel. Maybe you'd prefer a funny cat video.
I thought this video would be riding technique tips for wet, icy and snowy conditions. I’d suggest that if a person old enough to ride a motorcycle on-road is too stupid to know how to stay warm then perhaps they should just stay at home.
@titaniumquarrion9838 I'm sorry for whatever happened to you to think its ok to call people stupid for something they have never done before. We don't put up with that attitude around here. If they haven't done something before, you expect them to be an expert because they are legal age to ride a motorcycle?Everyone starts somewhere. Be nice.
@@MotoCampNerdlet him sit on his nice warm couch while his life passes him by!