One thing I should have mentioned about the Zondervan is that it is smyth sewn with overcast stitching. So that will help it last, though the Foundations (also stitched) has a more solid feel.
I was impressed with this comparison. I was fearful that it would be a Lockman bashing. It was not. It was very fair. I think the best way to sum it up is to say: Lockman is a Bible ministry that publishes Bibles. Zondervan is a Bible publishing company that publishes Bibles. Both are great, both deserve support, the Zondervan is a bit more polished and the Lockman is a bit more academic. I have both and spend more casual time in the Zondervan but when I study for Seminary, I pull out the Lockman.
I have both. Zondervan has far better paper and the actual text layout it more comfortable for me. Of course, the Lockman version has the full set of footnotes while Zondervan doesn't....which was a deal breaker for me . Well, my wife got the Zondervan one for me for Christmas and I've had it for a few months and I can say it is the best Zondervan you can get. Very easy to read.
@jkdbuck7670 In regards to the paper quality... the Lockman from 2008 and OLDER,... has the Zondervan beat... hands down... when the publisher moved from Anaheim to Le Habre.. the paper quality changed. .but even though the 2008 and newer is made in China instead of the U.S.A. like they once were..My made in China Lockman from 2008 tops the Zondervan paper No question... I had to quit using my Lockman from 2017... even bending a page while turning it.. would leave a crease permanent crease on that page...
This is fascinating. If I was n NASB type, I would probably get both. The one NASB Bible I own is a hardback called “The Master Study Bible” with introductions to books by stalwarts of the faith from the 20th century. Keep up the good work!
Pls help, what specific scriptures do you look for when reading a translation and how does the nasb read to you? I have both the CSB and nasb bibles. Am curious of your thoughts. I am currently reading mostly the KJV Chronological study bible along with the ESV study Bible and niv bible but take the nasb along to church
Thank you for making this review. I have the Foundations and was thinking about getting the Zondervan. However, you talked me out of it. Your point about the durability of the Foundations struck home with me. Whereas the Zandervan is prettier, if it’s not put together very sturdy it won’t last. To me I think strength is more important than beauty.
To be fair, the Zondervan is smyth sewn with overcast stitching. I wish I had mentioned that in the video. But yes, I think the Foundations version has a more solid feel.
@@AFrischPerspective I wound up getting the Zondervon and I think it’s great. I see what you mean by sturdiness but I think it has more to do with the cover material-although it seems tough enough. Perhaps in the future I’ll get it rebound, Lord willing. It is such a beautiful text block.
Thanks for your review of the Zondervan and Lockman Foundation NASB Bibles. I have one of each but in slightly different formats. My Zondervan is bible text only with occasional notes for text variations. My Lockman bible is the NASB Large Print Ultrathin Reference Bible. The Zondervan has a Leathersoft synthetic cover. The Lockman Publications bible has a bonded leather cover. I like the Zondervan Comfort Print. It is very readable. The Lockman bible has a comprehensive reference system and concordance.
Do you like the ultra thin? I’m actually between that one in genuine leather or the zondervan. I like the idea of the ultra thin because it’s close to the Allan nasb reader, I just can’t afford the Allan, it’s $280 lol
Once upon a time the Lockman Bibles by far had the best paper even after the others all went to the thin stuff. Even the cheaper ones. Too bad that's not the case anymore.
@JesseRoland your comment from several years ago...: "Once upon a time the Lockman Bibles by far had the best paper even after the others all went to the thin stuff. Even the cheaper ones. Too bad that's not the case anymore." AGREED
Thank you for the great review and comparison! I bought one of the Zondervan SCRs, and the pages started coming loose from the stitching. It could be that I got a bad one, but I wouldn't recommend it. The text also falls too far into the gutter for my tastes. I don't like to be negative about it, but I have to be honest.
I like single column references. But would prefer bigger PRINT I like lockman because they are printing their own product. I think Holman wiil print some new choices in NASB 95 in 2022..spring. ?.
There’s another Lockman SCR which has a similar looking box but instead of “1995 edition”, it says “updated edition” - which is what I’ve got and the wide margin size is noteably different. In your video it is 1” wide whereas the one I have is half the size so the width footprint is a bit smaller.
@nikkibeer7105 Your comment from several years ago... "There’s another Lockman SCR which has a similar looking box but instead of “1995 edition”, it says “updated edition” - which is what I’ve got and the wide margin size is noteably different." Yes.. the paper is noteably different... because the "updated " versions were the bibles that were produced from 2006 until about 2012 or so... and so they were titled "updated".. to distinguish them from the NASB's of 1973-1994..... but when Lockman decided to once again update the language and make the NASB Gender neutral... which they did beginning in 2020... they realized they needed to stop labelling the bible as JUST the "updated" version.. so as not to confuse consumers.. That is when they began printing "1995 edition".. on their covers sometime around the conception gender neutral idea ... perhaps around 2015?.. in any case.... the Paper... is Not different because of the wording of the cover of the bible... it is different because.. the bibles that state.."1995 edition:.. are more recent .... hence more cheaply made..
if leathertex convinces even one person Not to buy one..as it has done with you.. than they are worth being made.. so even MORE people can learn....how cheap material wise they are...
I have a Lockman ... And Zondervan The 50th anniversary app and the Study Bible ... I use The Jerusalem Bible ... Know about Maccabees 1-5 and Love the book of Enoch by R.H. Charles "Never be afraid to read"
I received a lockman nasb topical from eBay in pleather. It has a vinyl past down liner. But, the Zondervan, what I’ve seen, has better paper and appears a bit more modern classic, though I don’t know how long it would last.
@parkermoore4792 I know this is an older question... Hello, Tim - Great review! A quick question: do you happen to know what gsm of the paper in the Lockman? Thanks for your time - God bless. from my experience if I were to guess... I would say Lockman's prior to 2012 about 38 gsm... and ones after that about 32 gsm
FYI... the Lockman has introductions.. to every book as well.. perhaps Not as detailed as the Zondervan version... but Lockman's are all the way in the back following the book of Revelation....
One thing I should have mentioned about the Zondervan is that it is smyth sewn with overcast stitching. So that will help it last, though the Foundations (also stitched) has a more solid feel.
Fantastic
Just got the lockman foundation version. Love it! I haven't brought myself to mark in it yet. Great video!
I was impressed with this comparison.
I was fearful that it would be a Lockman bashing. It was not. It was very fair.
I think the best way to sum it up is to say:
Lockman is a Bible ministry that publishes Bibles.
Zondervan is a Bible publishing company that publishes Bibles.
Both are great, both deserve support, the Zondervan is a bit more polished and the Lockman is a bit more academic.
I have both and spend more casual time in the Zondervan but when I study for Seminary, I pull out the Lockman.
I have both. Zondervan has far better paper and the actual text layout it more comfortable for me. Of course, the Lockman version has the full set of footnotes while Zondervan doesn't....which was a deal breaker for me . Well, my wife got the Zondervan one for me for Christmas and I've had it for a few months and I can say it is the best Zondervan you can get. Very easy to read.
@jkdbuck7670
In regards to the paper quality... the Lockman from 2008 and OLDER,... has the Zondervan beat... hands down... when the publisher moved from Anaheim to Le Habre.. the paper quality changed. .but even though the 2008 and newer is made in China instead of the U.S.A. like they once were..My made in China Lockman from 2008 tops the Zondervan paper No question...
I had to quit using my Lockman from 2017... even bending a page while turning it.. would leave a crease permanent crease on that page...
Brother, I love your programs... so informative! Thank you!
So glad to hear that!
This is fascinating. If I was n NASB type, I would probably get both. The one NASB Bible I own is a hardback called “The Master Study Bible” with introductions to books by stalwarts of the faith from the 20th century. Keep up the good work!
Pls help, what specific scriptures do you look for when reading a translation and how does the nasb read to you? I have both the CSB and nasb bibles. Am curious of your thoughts. I am currently reading mostly the KJV Chronological study bible along with the ESV study Bible and niv bible but take the nasb along to church
I just got a brand new nasb 2020 wide margine lare print genuine leather and the vinyl to leather was not glued very well. Is that norm for Lokman?
Thanks for this comparison! Do Schuyler NASB Bibles have the same amount of translation notes as the Lockman printed Bibles?
I don't think Schuyler's do... but I wouldn't even think of writing in mine.. I think the paper is to thin to allow for that
Thank you for making this review. I have the Foundations and was thinking about getting the Zondervan. However, you talked me out of it. Your point about the durability of the Foundations struck home with me. Whereas the Zandervan is prettier, if it’s not put together very sturdy it won’t last. To me I think strength is more important than beauty.
To be fair, the Zondervan is smyth sewn with overcast stitching. I wish I had mentioned that in the video. But yes, I think the Foundations version has a more solid feel.
@@AFrischPerspective I wound up getting the Zondervon and I think it’s great. I see what you mean by sturdiness but I think it has more to do with the cover material-although it seems tough enough. Perhaps in the future I’ll get it rebound, Lord willing. It is such a beautiful text block.
I have never had any stitched bible... NOT last...
Will the nasb, in its present form( 1995) , still be available, even after the 2021 update or the master’s seminary legacy?
Yes the 95 version will still be made due to it's popularity
2020* even though it comes out in 2021 it will still be called 2020 update
Yes Not everyone is a fan of gender neutrality...and many bible believers today... believe in equalitarianism... Not complementarianism
Thanks for your review of the Zondervan and Lockman Foundation NASB Bibles. I have one of each but in slightly different formats. My Zondervan is bible text only with occasional notes for text variations. My Lockman bible is the NASB Large Print Ultrathin Reference Bible. The Zondervan has a Leathersoft synthetic cover. The Lockman Publications bible has a bonded leather cover.
I like the Zondervan Comfort Print. It is very readable. The Lockman bible has a comprehensive reference system and concordance.
Do you like the ultra thin? I’m actually between that one in genuine leather or the zondervan. I like the idea of the ultra thin because it’s close to the Allan nasb reader, I just can’t afford the Allan, it’s $280 lol
Very helpful review thank you!!
Good comparison. Both great bibles for sure 😍
Thanks for this review or I guess I should say comparison.
Once upon a time the Lockman Bibles by far had the best paper even after the others all went to the thin stuff. Even the cheaper ones. Too bad that's not the case anymore.
@JesseRoland your comment from several years ago...:
"Once upon a time the Lockman Bibles by far had the best paper even after the others all went to the thin stuff. Even the cheaper ones. Too bad that's not the case anymore."
AGREED
Thank you for the great review and comparison!
I bought one of the Zondervan SCRs, and the pages started coming loose from the stitching. It could be that I got a bad one, but I wouldn't recommend it. The text also falls too far into the gutter for my tastes. I don't like to be negative about it, but I have to be honest.
I just think newer bibles are Not made as well as older ones..
Great video once again!!
I have the lochman and love it.
I like single column references.
But would prefer bigger PRINT
I like lockman because they are printing their own product. I think Holman wiil print some new choices in NASB 95 in 2022..spring. ?.
There’s another Lockman SCR which has a similar looking box but instead of “1995 edition”, it says “updated edition” - which is what I’ve got and the wide margin size is noteably different. In your video it is 1” wide whereas the one I have is half the size so the width footprint is a bit smaller.
@nikkibeer7105 Your comment from several years ago...
"There’s another Lockman SCR which has a similar looking box but instead of “1995 edition”, it says “updated edition” - which is what I’ve got and the wide margin size is noteably different."
Yes.. the paper is noteably different... because the "updated " versions were the bibles that were produced from 2006 until about 2012 or so... and so they were titled "updated".. to distinguish them from the NASB's of 1973-1994.....
but when Lockman decided to once again update the language and make the NASB Gender neutral... which they did beginning in 2020... they realized they needed to stop labelling the bible as JUST the "updated" version.. so as not to confuse consumers.. That is when they began printing "1995 edition".. on their covers sometime around the conception gender neutral idea ... perhaps around 2015?..
in any case....
the Paper... is Not different because of the wording of the cover of the bible... it is different because.. the bibles that state.."1995 edition:.. are more recent .... hence more cheaply made..
wish the foundation SCR came in brown
I like and have Zondervan SCT and in regular and PREMIER.
02' Lockman SCR/In Touch. 👍👍👍
I have the leathertex bible.
After a few years the cover starts to pealing off and starts cracking.
I would never again buy a bible with leathertex
if leathertex convinces even one person Not to buy one..as it has done with you.. than they are worth being made.. so even MORE people can learn....how cheap material wise they are...
I have a Lockman ... And Zondervan
The 50th anniversary app and the Study Bible ... I use The Jerusalem Bible ... Know about Maccabees 1-5 and Love the book of Enoch by R.H. Charles "Never be afraid to read"
I received a lockman nasb topical from eBay in pleather. It has a vinyl past down liner. But, the Zondervan, what I’ve seen, has better paper and appears a bit more modern classic, though I don’t know how long it would last.
Hello, Tim - Great review! A quick question: do you happen to know what gsm of the paper in the Lockman? Thanks for your time - God bless.
@parkermoore4792
I know this is an older question...
Hello, Tim - Great review! A quick question: do you happen to know what gsm of the paper in the Lockman? Thanks for your time - God bless.
from my experience if I were to guess... I would say Lockman's prior to 2012 about 38 gsm... and ones after that about 32 gsm
How big is lockman font?
my Lockman's are about 11 point to 11.5 point...
FYI... the Lockman has introductions.. to every book as well.. perhaps Not as detailed as the Zondervan version... but Lockman's are all the way in the back following the book of Revelation....