following this video's suggestion I bought the Dominator mid pipe for my Ducati MTS 950 Akrapovic GP dual exhaust, and the servo buddy, man what a difference it truly sounds like a mean Ducati, it got shipped out from Poland, 10 days waiting then 3 days, perfect timing to perform the desmo service, perfect fit no issues whatsoever. Welding are great tho highly recommended. And true about needing a longer bolt minute 12:30
That's awesome. I'm gonna need to see some video of this Akra GP dual exhaust when you have time. So glad everything worked out for you. Absolutely agree - Dominator was a great experience all the way around - reasonably fast shipping all the way from Poland, great fit, and high quality.
Thanks for posting your video. I have a Mivv full system but was bored and bought this mid pipe. I’ve found the sizing for the inlets was way too tight. The outlet sizing was also bad. The very end was 54mm but it was not consistent. After installing and riding the sound was good but fuel consumption was crazy. Most concerning was the power loss. Mivv full system back in place and dominator pipe retuned.
Interesting. That has not been my experience at all. Mine still surprises me every time I ride it. Mivv makes a great product though so no surprise it's giving you good results.
Thank you for putting this video together. Lots of good info aside from the install. I have a 2016 DVT PP, and now looking into some mid-pipe options. Tune aside, I think for the price this is a good option to experiment with, but I may end up putting the trigger on an Akra full titanium pipe (header-back). It's $1K though, and $150 sure feels better on the wallet! Regardless, it looks like the 2015-2017 DVT's are an anomaly for tuning, with little option other than Rapid Bike as a piggyback system, or a Termi system + Ducati Racing map (which I can't get anymore in California). So we're stuck with piggy back setups, and whatever exhaust option fits. My ideal is an SC-Project CR-T with Akra pipes, but we'll see. Thanks for the video!
*editing because I replied as I was eating lunch and was kind of short. You're welcome! Yeah, install was pretty straightforward. I had the exact same thoughts on the Akra headers but like I said in the video I was willing to take a chance for 180 bucks or whatever it ended up being. Very much so not disappointed. I would highly recommend the dominator. For the price of the Akra you could also order the Brentune device which imo is far superior to a piggyback system... and between the two you'd still be less than the cost of the Akra headers. If you dig in to the install and have questions feel free to reach out. It was super simple, especially since the o2 sensors didn't need to come out. Six bolts total getting the cat out and that's including the three front header bolts.
@@alex_theviking Can't get much simpler than that install! I don't think the Brentune system works on the 2015-2017 DVT's, only 2018+ but I can reach out and see. Right now it will cost $1300 for the Akra pipe, and that's assuming I could even just use my stock PP Termi slip-on, which I'm not sure about, and another $600+ for a proper slip-on if the Termi doesn't fit. So yeah, $180 feels pretty darn good for not taking a gamble!
nice setup! I have a 2018 1260 pikes peak, it came with the Termi, then I did a cat delete and added an arrow mid pipe. It's super loud and pops a lot on when I let off the throttle. Do you experience a lag when you really get on it at low revs? a kind of surge. Last year I got a Rexxer tune which I think helped a little with it. Was considering getting the Akra pipe as the Termi is pretty much just straight through. Does the Akra have much baffling?
Hey thanks! The Akra has an optional dB killer which I keep installed most of the time. It helps quite a bit, especially at low speeds. I've heard from quite a few people that the termi is useless with a cat delete. I'd definitely look at getting a different slip on. As far as a surge, haven't experienced anything like that. Mine runs incredibly smooth and pulls like crazy. Very happy with the setup still.
Hey man! Great video, helped me take a decision if i should buy the decat from dominator or not. Quick question tho because i see a lot of mixed oppinions, if i use the stock exhaust with the dominator decat and the servi buddy, do i still need a remap or smth? Not just for the check engine but just to make sure the bike works as intended. Thanks a lot!
One of the big reasons I felt comfortable not tuning the bike with the Akra slipon is because the Akra website says it's not necessary. I don't think that data exists for the stock can. My opinion would be - I don't recommend it. It's going to be way too loud and that can is specifically designed to be used with the catalytic converter that's attached to it from the factory. Hope that helps!
I had the dominator midpipe installed along with the stock exhaust a few months back at a Ducati Service garage. They used the eliminator fuse to prevent any dashboard errors and mentioned making adjustments for optimal fuel consumption and map curves. Surprisingly, the sound turned out to be much louder than I anticipated. Despite a smooth riding experience, I didn't detect any significant increase in horsepower or torque. One noticeable aspect is the exhaust's roar when throttling down, suggesting it's trying to release more than the end silencer can handle. In the future, I'm considering upgrading to an aftermarket silencer, possibly QD.
I recommend it but you'll most likely need a slipon of some sort. I can't speak from experience but I've heard from multiple guys that the decat with the stock pipe is really loud and unmanageable since there's no dB killer.
@@tumolucky17 I didn't know this until I looked just now, but Dominator makes a can too and it comes with a dB killer. For the price, and if the quality is anything like the midpipe, it may be worth the gamble. www.ebay.com/itm/275589625389?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=M4aaecrKTmW&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=jqmWsxnhRv2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Great video. A few things how has the bike performed with the new mid pipe? Did you ever get it tuned? Or purchase a tuner? Also I have a 2018 pikes peak and I want to keep my carbon termi silencer on it and wondering if the mid pipe will fit into my termigoni silencer? Thx
Thanks! It's been fantastic honestly. Just had it on a weekend road trip and it performed flawlessly. I never got it tuned, no tuner, and don't think I will anytime soon. It really runs great as-is. As for the termi, that end can is really just there for decoration. Most of the exhaust properties are contained in the cat/midpipe on your bike. As some of the other guys commenting have noted it'll be incredibly loud and basically just sound like it's straight piped. No nice exhaust note to speak of. If you want to try something less expensive I'd probably give the Dominator end can a try. If the quality is as good as the midpipe it'll do great. One of the other guys in here did a Mivv and said he's happy with it. Whatever you do, make sure to get the dongle I linked for the O2 sensor thing. I will say though, the Akra has not disappointed. Sounds incredible the way have it set up.
Hi Alex, I performed the dominator midpipe install. Left the original silencer in. Thx for the help. ruclips.net/video/CrZQm_l-XtQ/видео.htmlsi=B3423V7oJQHzWeZC
I like to straight pipe my bikes, but I go about it differently. I cut open the standard silencer box. take out all the emissions stuff and put a perforated straight pipe inside. weld it up. That way, it looks standard for the police. The whole box acts as a silencer. I get a deep baritone sound. not too loud and the horsepower gain. result.
I typically keep it in for commuting and to maintain a decent relationship with my neighbors. I do take it out occasionally for longer rides and it sounds awesome without being deafening
Did you ever follow through with Bren Tuning? I have a '18 1260 S with a full Leo Vince (mid pipe / cat delete and carbon exhaust). I went with the Bren Tuning and can definitely tell a difference. The stock map runs ok. I doubt it is dangerously lean, but it doesnt idle as good and also if I pull the clutch so RPMs drop quickly the bike will stall or come close to stalling. Not a problem with the Bren Tuning. Also, the butt dyno feels like it makes more power, however given the power of the 1260 in stock form, I'm almost never in a situation where I use the supposed 10hp bump. Just wanted your thoughts if you went the Bren Tuning route.
I haven't done it yet. Still considering it but wanted more real world info / reviews on it so this is helpful. Currently have a needy MV Agusta f3 800 that's taking up most of my time. May get around to it once I'm done with the F3.
It's the Evotech model. Purchased from Motovation.com - can't say enough good things about them. Install instructions are on the Evotech website. I'll ink those too. Just a quick note though - it's designed to take the stock turn signals. I originally ordered a set of Rizomas to mount on it but could not find an adapter that worked. I ended up taking a chance on some Ducati Performance signals on eBay that looked like they might fit into the stock housing. Bought those, but had to do a small modification to get them to work. Wasn't difficult but definitely wasn't plug and play either. So if you're looking to do aftermarket signals... just something to think about. Fender Eliminator: www.motovationusa.com/tail-tidy-fender-eliminator-by-evotech-performance-ducati-multistrada-PRN014618.html?mmyId=153436&mmy=Ducati-Multistrada-1260-S-2020 Install (RH side, halfway down, download PDF): evotech-performance.com/products/ep-ducati-multistrada-1260-s-tail-tidy-2018-onwards
@@alex_theviking thanks for all that info, what's the tune device you talked about on the video? I can't find any info on that particular tune device, do you mind sharing a link for it algo, many thanks 👍🏼
I wonder if is the same case in MY2015 1200dvt termignoni slip on - dominator mid pipe decat & healtech eliminator decat. Do I need remap or is good to go ? Cause to remap and tune is is pretty cost and difficult to find someone . Thx in advance
The Akrapovic website says a remap is not necessary with both headers and slip on. www.akrapovic.com/en/moto/products/Ducati/Multistrada-1200-S?brandId=46&modelId=400
Hey Alex. It's me again 😆, I purchased and installed that exhaust and servo eliminator, but the engine light came on anyway, do you know what could be trigging this engine error?
I meant to message you yesterday after install but ran out of time, disregard the comment, after I messaged you I came and check the bike and the engine light is gone.... lol 😆
Did you install the servo buddy module in the right location? There are two plugs in the same location that it will fit. The easier one to get to is the wrong one. It has to be the plug that's tucked under the frame and under the other wiring. Also, if you started the bike after installing the pipe but before plugging in the servo buddy that could trigger the light. Edit... Just saw your second comment. How do you like the exhaust?
I definitely love a good Termi system. I have twin Termignonis on my Sport Classic Biposto. Unfortunately the Termi system for the Multistrada is really just for decoration so if you plan on doing the decat it's not going to sound very good. I went with Akrapovic for my Multistrada because the titanium end can sounds aboslutely fantastic with the decat pipe.
@@kneeman7 The termi sounds fantastic as-is from the factory. The trouble comes when guys try to do that cat delete on it. With the termi system on the Multi, all of the exhaust components are located in side the cat pipe, so when that piece is removed all that's left is the termi end can which, on the multi, IS really just decoration. The bike essentially becomes straight-piped at that point and does not sound very good. That's why I always tell people with the termi to leave it be. It sounds exactly as it's supposed to from the factory.
Interestingly enough you're the second person to point that out in less than a week in two separate videos. I definitely need to do a better job of it. I notice every time I edit and watch them back. I'm not a professional vlogger or anything but it's something I'll focus more on in the future.
following this video's suggestion I bought the Dominator mid pipe for my Ducati MTS 950 Akrapovic GP dual exhaust, and the servo buddy, man what a difference it truly sounds like a mean Ducati, it got shipped out from Poland, 10 days waiting then 3 days, perfect timing to perform the desmo service, perfect fit no issues whatsoever. Welding are great tho highly recommended. And true about needing a longer bolt minute 12:30
That's awesome. I'm gonna need to see some video of this Akra GP dual exhaust when you have time. So glad everything worked out for you. Absolutely agree - Dominator was a great experience all the way around - reasonably fast shipping all the way from Poland, great fit, and high quality.
Thanks for posting your video. I have a Mivv full system but was bored and bought this mid pipe. I’ve found the sizing for the inlets was way too tight. The outlet sizing was also bad. The very end was 54mm but it was not consistent. After installing and riding the sound was good but fuel consumption was crazy. Most concerning was the power loss. Mivv full system back in place and dominator pipe retuned.
Interesting. That has not been my experience at all. Mine still surprises me every time I ride it. Mivv makes a great product though so no surprise it's giving you good results.
Thank you for putting this video together. Lots of good info aside from the install. I have a 2016 DVT PP, and now looking into some mid-pipe options. Tune aside, I think for the price this is a good option to experiment with, but I may end up putting the trigger on an Akra full titanium pipe (header-back). It's $1K though, and $150 sure feels better on the wallet! Regardless, it looks like the 2015-2017 DVT's are an anomaly for tuning, with little option other than Rapid Bike as a piggyback system, or a Termi system + Ducati Racing map (which I can't get anymore in California). So we're stuck with piggy back setups, and whatever exhaust option fits. My ideal is an SC-Project CR-T with Akra pipes, but we'll see. Thanks for the video!
*editing because I replied as I was eating lunch and was kind of short. You're welcome! Yeah, install was pretty straightforward. I had the exact same thoughts on the Akra headers but like I said in the video I was willing to take a chance for 180 bucks or whatever it ended up being. Very much so not disappointed. I would highly recommend the dominator. For the price of the Akra you could also order the Brentune device which imo is far superior to a piggyback system... and between the two you'd still be less than the cost of the Akra headers. If you dig in to the install and have questions feel free to reach out. It was super simple, especially since the o2 sensors didn't need to come out. Six bolts total getting the cat out and that's including the three front header bolts.
@@alex_theviking Can't get much simpler than that install! I don't think the Brentune system works on the 2015-2017 DVT's, only 2018+ but I can reach out and see. Right now it will cost $1300 for the Akra pipe, and that's assuming I could even just use my stock PP Termi slip-on, which I'm not sure about, and another $600+ for a proper slip-on if the Termi doesn't fit. So yeah, $180 feels pretty darn good for not taking a gamble!
Great video my friend! Thank you for sharing.
nice setup!
I have a 2018 1260 pikes peak, it came with the Termi, then I did a cat delete and added an arrow mid pipe. It's super loud and pops a lot on when I let off the throttle. Do you experience a lag when you really get on it at low revs? a kind of surge. Last year I got a Rexxer tune which I think helped a little with it. Was considering getting the Akra pipe as the Termi is pretty much just straight through. Does the Akra have much baffling?
Hey thanks! The Akra has an optional dB killer which I keep installed most of the time. It helps quite a bit, especially at low speeds. I've heard from quite a few people that the termi is useless with a cat delete. I'd definitely look at getting a different slip on. As far as a surge, haven't experienced anything like that. Mine runs incredibly smooth and pulls like crazy. Very happy with the setup still.
Hey man! Great video, helped me take a decision if i should buy the decat from dominator or not. Quick question tho because i see a lot of mixed oppinions, if i use the stock exhaust with the dominator decat and the servi buddy, do i still need a remap or smth? Not just for the check engine but just to make sure the bike works as intended. Thanks a lot!
One of the big reasons I felt comfortable not tuning the bike with the Akra slipon is because the Akra website says it's not necessary. I don't think that data exists for the stock can. My opinion would be - I don't recommend it. It's going to be way too loud and that can is specifically designed to be used with the catalytic converter that's attached to it from the factory. Hope that helps!
I had the dominator midpipe installed along with the stock exhaust a few months back at a Ducati Service garage. They used the eliminator fuse to prevent any dashboard errors and mentioned making adjustments for optimal fuel consumption and map curves. Surprisingly, the sound turned out to be much louder than I anticipated. Despite a smooth riding experience, I didn't detect any significant increase in horsepower or torque. One noticeable aspect is the exhaust's roar when throttling down, suggesting it's trying to release more than the end silencer can handle. In the future, I'm considering upgrading to an aftermarket silencer, possibly QD.
Man they still make them for the 2010-2014 model, ive gotta get one now!
I can still say now, totally worth it. You may need to get that model tuned though. Just check to be sure.
Thinking of decat my 2018 multi enduro , just for weight loss and sound improvements
I recommend it but you'll most likely need a slipon of some sort. I can't speak from experience but I've heard from multiple guys that the decat with the stock pipe is really loud and unmanageable since there's no dB killer.
@@alex_theviking yeah that’s what’s putting me off, I will see if I can get some db killers for my slip on
@@tumolucky17 what do you have on the bike currently? Is it the termi from the factory?
@@alex_theviking it’s a 2018 multi 1200 enduro. Yeah has a standard termi exhaust
@@tumolucky17 I didn't know this until I looked just now, but Dominator makes a can too and it comes with a dB killer. For the price, and if the quality is anything like the midpipe, it may be worth the gamble.
www.ebay.com/itm/275589625389?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=M4aaecrKTmW&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=jqmWsxnhRv2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Great video. A few things how has the bike performed with the new mid pipe? Did you ever get it tuned? Or purchase a tuner? Also I have a 2018 pikes peak and I want to keep my carbon termi silencer on it and wondering if the mid pipe will fit into my termigoni silencer? Thx
Thanks! It's been fantastic honestly. Just had it on a weekend road trip and it performed flawlessly. I never got it tuned, no tuner, and don't think I will anytime soon. It really runs great as-is.
As for the termi, that end can is really just there for decoration. Most of the exhaust properties are contained in the cat/midpipe on your bike. As some of the other guys commenting have noted it'll be incredibly loud and basically just sound like it's straight piped. No nice exhaust note to speak of. If you want to try something less expensive I'd probably give the Dominator end can a try. If the quality is as good as the midpipe it'll do great. One of the other guys in here did a Mivv and said he's happy with it. Whatever you do, make sure to get the dongle I linked for the O2 sensor thing.
I will say though, the Akra has not disappointed. Sounds incredible the way have it set up.
Thx for the speedy reply. Buying it.
@@maxvega4217 btw, just re-read through some of the comments. The guy with the mivv wasn't happy with the fitment so maybe avoid the mivv 🤷🏼
Hi Alex, I performed the dominator midpipe install. Left the original silencer in. Thx for the help.
ruclips.net/video/CrZQm_l-XtQ/видео.htmlsi=B3423V7oJQHzWeZC
Good information
I like to straight pipe my bikes, but I go about it differently. I cut open the standard silencer box. take out all the emissions stuff and put a perforated straight pipe inside. weld it up. That way, it looks standard for the police. The whole box acts as a silencer. I get a deep baritone sound. not too loud and the horsepower gain. result.
I've always wanted to try that. Just don't have the welding skills yet to manage it myself.
Guessing you left the dB killer out :-)
I typically keep it in for commuting and to maintain a decent relationship with my neighbors. I do take it out occasionally for longer rides and it sounds awesome without being deafening
Did you ever follow through with Bren Tuning?
I have a '18 1260 S with a full Leo Vince (mid pipe / cat delete and carbon exhaust). I went with the Bren Tuning and can definitely tell a difference. The stock map runs ok. I doubt it is dangerously lean, but it doesnt idle as good and also if I pull the clutch so RPMs drop quickly the bike will stall or come close to stalling. Not a problem with the Bren Tuning.
Also, the butt dyno feels like it makes more power, however given the power of the 1260 in stock form, I'm almost never in a situation where I use the supposed 10hp bump.
Just wanted your thoughts if you went the Bren Tuning route.
I haven't done it yet. Still considering it but wanted more real world info / reviews on it so this is helpful. Currently have a needy MV Agusta f3 800 that's taking up most of my time. May get around to it once I'm done with the F3.
Where did you get that rear fender eliminator, could you share the link, thanks in advance
It's the Evotech model. Purchased from Motovation.com - can't say enough good things about them. Install instructions are on the Evotech website. I'll ink those too. Just a quick note though - it's designed to take the stock turn signals. I originally ordered a set of Rizomas to mount on it but could not find an adapter that worked. I ended up taking a chance on some Ducati Performance signals on eBay that looked like they might fit into the stock housing. Bought those, but had to do a small modification to get them to work. Wasn't difficult but definitely wasn't plug and play either. So if you're looking to do aftermarket signals... just something to think about.
Fender Eliminator:
www.motovationusa.com/tail-tidy-fender-eliminator-by-evotech-performance-ducati-multistrada-PRN014618.html?mmyId=153436&mmy=Ducati-Multistrada-1260-S-2020
Install (RH side, halfway down, download PDF):
evotech-performance.com/products/ep-ducati-multistrada-1260-s-tail-tidy-2018-onwards
@@alex_theviking thanks for all that info, what's the tune device you talked about on the video? I can't find any info on that particular tune device, do you mind sharing a link for it algo, many thanks 👍🏼
It's the Brentune Stage 1
brentuningmoto.com/motorcycle/ducati-multistrada-16/
I wonder if is the same case in MY2015 1200dvt termignoni slip on - dominator mid pipe decat & healtech eliminator decat. Do I need remap or is good to go ? Cause to remap and tune is is pretty cost and difficult to find someone . Thx in advance
The Akrapovic website says a remap is not necessary with both headers and slip on.
www.akrapovic.com/en/moto/products/Ducati/Multistrada-1200-S?brandId=46&modelId=400
Hey Alex. It's me again 😆, I purchased and installed that exhaust and servo eliminator, but the engine light came on anyway, do you know what could be trigging this engine error?
I meant to message you yesterday after install but ran out of time, disregard the comment, after I messaged you I came and check the bike and the engine light is gone.... lol 😆
Did you install the servo buddy module in the right location? There are two plugs in the same location that it will fit. The easier one to get to is the wrong one. It has to be the plug that's tucked under the frame and under the other wiring.
Also, if you started the bike after installing the pipe but before plugging in the servo buddy that could trigger the light.
Edit... Just saw your second comment. How do you like the exhaust?
@@alex_theviking top quality for the price! Couldn't have asked for anything better from that price range and all thanks to your video! 😀
Awesome. I love to hear it!
Only Termignoni for Ducatis!
I definitely love a good Termi system. I have twin Termignonis on my Sport Classic Biposto. Unfortunately the Termi system for the Multistrada is really just for decoration so if you plan on doing the decat it's not going to sound very good. I went with Akrapovic for my Multistrada because the titanium end can sounds aboslutely fantastic with the decat pipe.
I agree on the Termi. My 1260 with the full Termi exhaust is more than "decoration". Best sounding twin exhaust you can hear.
@@kneeman7 The termi sounds fantastic as-is from the factory. The trouble comes when guys try to do that cat delete on it. With the termi system on the Multi, all of the exhaust components are located in side the cat pipe, so when that piece is removed all that's left is the termi end can which, on the multi, IS really just decoration. The bike essentially becomes straight-piped at that point and does not sound very good.
That's why I always tell people with the termi to leave it be. It sounds exactly as it's supposed to from the factory.
@@alex_theviking agree to disagree is ok. I have the full exhaust, no cat, and the sound is a nice grunt. The slip on does not sound the same.
@@kneeman7 interesting. I've never actually heard it myself, only heard second hand accounts. I'd love hear yours if you have a video...
Pls cut down your "ums" n your future videos. They become annoying and usually the speaker is unaware of it.
Interestingly enough you're the second person to point that out in less than a week in two separate videos. I definitely need to do a better job of it. I notice every time I edit and watch them back. I'm not a professional vlogger or anything but it's something I'll focus more on in the future.
Thanks for the video!