Hi so i have a fumoto valve in my forester and i noticed the front skid has an opening where the oil gets drained. Would it protect the valve while offroading? Im debating over this skid that u have or go for primitive
I'm just unsure about the large open areas on this design. I want full coverage from rocks and things being kicked up. Fingers crossed they revise them some day, because otherwise these look good.
For Subaru, it makes sense for the transmission skid to be vented as fully enclosed skids can raise temps. A hot transmission isn't a good thing on the trail. I run a Scangauge II and noticed lower numbers over my last transmission skid plate which raised temps. I will do some testing on rocks as there is a trail here that is predominantly a rock garden.
Great set up and great video too, I would like to know how much is the total effective lift in your car? and what is your input on the car handling in freeway at a high speed? Also I noticed some kind of debris falling during parts of your video, first I thought it was snow 🤣 but soon realized that you are in Hawaii.... is that volcanic ashes? if is so that's amazing! Thank you!
It's 4" front and 4.5" rear over stock. 3" lift with 30" tires that provide an added 1". Highway driving is fine until I start hitting curvy roads. Without swaybars, the roll is evident. However, the Ironman suspension I have offsets the lack of sway bars with pre-tuned spring rates and damping. Yes I'm in Hawaii, but I don't live near any volcanoes. I'm on another island.
How did you cover the space between your skid plate and the bumper chop? I have been fascinated with your design as the Crosstrek sport’s bumper lines are angled weird and what you did makes so much sense. However I did not understand if you were using heat formed plastic or a custom cut metal plate to cover and protect the gap (as well as mount the front plate). Please let me know as I want to try something similar on my lifted white 22 Sport? Thank you
Great build. Even taking into account the tires, locker, and deleted sway bars on your car I'm impressed with some of those hills you were able to power up. I see so many vids with subarus bogging out on inclines like that due to the cvt cutting power. Any thoughts on this--did I miss something in your build that contributes? Also, what is that thing you're turning on before you take hills that makes that brief cop horn chirp?
Ummm….if I want to off-roading without skitplates then that’s my problem and it shouldn’t inconvenience you or anybody else, at the end of the day it’s my problem. Not everyone has all the money to buy all that gear but that shouldn’t stop you from getting out there to enjoy your new subie, don’t get me wrong I would love to have all that gear for my Outback but that don’t stop me from wheeling it and having a good time with it, you just have to smart about it….most of the times people are more then happy to help a person who gets into car trouble at the trails…I know i would help someone in need….
First of all, your problem will be others problems. While not everyone can afford gear, they're not entitled to receiving repairs from others because they went out on the trail unprepared. Most would certainly help someone as a good Samaritan, but most would not be happy, especially for a bashed oil pan, snapped oil pickup, or a depleted transmission. Any of those will render the vehicle inoperable. How would you tow another Subaru with your Outback when your towing capacity is more than likely half the GVWR of the other? You would certainly overwork your engine, transmission, suspension, and chassis, and damage something in the process. Our cars are lower than the average truck, even when lifted, and are certainly are not Jeeps by any stretch of the imagination. And although Subaru does not condone what they advertise, especially wheeling, skid plates should be first thing to install. Even the Wilderness models have optional skid plates to purchase if you need it. But if you don't need it, that's your problem, right?
@@octurbojoe so if I understand you correctly, if I were to break down on a trail then somehow or someway will end up being your or someone else’s problem? How is that possible? Are you or someone else going to pay for my tow truck? Are you or someone else going to pay for the damage on my vehicle? Are you or someone else going to stress about fixing my vehicle? I think not…. If anything you should maybe feel bad for that person and just be thankful that your not in that same dire situation and then either offer some help or just mind your own business and continue on with your trail run…both are perfectly fine choices. Thank god I’ve never broken down and hopefully i never do but more importantly I hope nobody breaks down at the same time and on the same trail that your on. Also, i would never have someone with a smaller vehicle then mine tow/pull my vehicle, nor would I be begging anyone to help me, I would just simply pay for a tow truck like a normal person would or I would just have my trail buddy pull me with his tacoma which he loves to do and I love to return the favor when he gets stuck, nothing like testing my Outback’s pulling power and awd system then pulling his stuck Tacoma out of some very sticky mud hole, especially when going up a hill. Yes, i like to over stress my vehicles but I also don’t bitch or act surprised when something breaks. Look man, I don’t know the kind of people you come across but seems like you come across some not very nice people, since most of the people Ive come across have always been more then happy/eager to help anybody who needed help on the trail, especially a fellow Subaru owner. On top of all that, there’s always people who bring their old beater 4WD/AWD cars that always tend to break….so that right there alone, invalidates your point. Just imagine If you were to require everyone to have all that protection gear that you have(which I admit looks totally cool and very useful) then hardly anyone would be able to get out there and enjoy the trails….So again, how would it be an inconvenience to you or someone else? You don’t even have to talk with the person that broke down, you could just simply move on…and that’s ok…..we are all free to ride what we brought and enjoy it however we want and if it breaks down then thats the owners problem, so don’t worry…..I promise you it’s ok for you to continue on the trail without me.
@@SubieandFriends You said in your first comment, "you just have to smart about it." It's not smart to wheel or even overland without skids. Period. You explain things as if everything works in a perfect world where it's butterflies and roses. Your personal experience does not make it okay for a large audience of newcomers. Others may not have friends like you, rely on others to pull them out, or have cell phone signal to call a tow truck. Also, not all trails are open. For example, we have trails where zero tow trucks can get to. But some good samaritan, a friend who's already there, or someone good will take their time away from their busy lives to get out there for the stupidity of the owner of the broken vehicle with no skid plates. I explain in this video what the worst can happen on a trail and recommend something that can protect their investment. You on the other hand, are basically telling people who have made a 20k-30k purchase on a car to, based on your experience, go on a trail without protection and to just be smart about it? Kinda counterintuitive if you ask me.
This comment is not based in reality. Not many of us have the luxury of trails and mountain systems that tow trucks can get to. As someone that has towed other Subarus (without skid plates) thru snow with my Subaru, it most definitely becomes my problem when those that I am wheeling with (even in a big group) destroy their transmission pans on rocks. It becomes my problem when I end up using my tools and materials to make repairs on vehicles that could’ve been prevented. Shit happens and we all understand that. But what’s inexcusable is when it could’ve been preventable. “YoU doNt haVe tO heLp tHem” If you genuinely believe that attempting to help someone that is stranded and otherwise screwed, is a negotiable factor, then I am concerned for the integrity of your ethics. aLL tHiS reCovEry GeaR. Bro. Primitive racing skid plates are $480 for ALL THREE. You could reasonably forgo the rear diff skid plate for a bit and save $120. That’s roughly $380 after taxes. If you can’t find $380 to protect your vehicle, not just for off-road, but on road, then you should find a different hobby. We both know those KMCs weren’t cheap so don’t give the iM poOr excuse. I want you to understand that you have a dangerous perspective that isn’t too hard to concede “hey man, I should probably get skid plates so I don’t spend $3k on a new CVT” No one is saying you need to buy a $300 kinetic rope, $200 recovery boards, etc etc. Guarantee I wheel harder than you and even I don’t need all that. Amazon works wonders, on certain items. Don’t skimp on protection and sure as hell don’t advocate for that. Trail safe bro.
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That's a beauty.
nice review and tips
Thanks!
Are you running some wheel spacer?
With no sway bars, do you drive this as a daily driver?
How's the oil drain plug? Is it covered and no access?
Hi so i have a fumoto valve in my forester and i noticed the front skid has an opening where the oil gets drained. Would it protect the valve while offroading? Im debating over this skid that u have or go for primitive
Perfect build.
I'm just unsure about the large open areas on this design. I want full coverage from rocks and things being kicked up. Fingers crossed they revise them some day, because otherwise these look good.
For Subaru, it makes sense for the transmission skid to be vented as fully enclosed skids can raise temps. A hot transmission isn't a good thing on the trail. I run a Scangauge II and noticed lower numbers over my last transmission skid plate which raised temps. I will do some testing on rocks as there is a trail here that is predominantly a rock garden.
How much ground clearance do you lose with the trans skid plate?
I believe it's around 1/2" on average. They're designed better than some of the competitors as far as thickness and approach angle.
Great set up and great video too, I would like to know how much is the total effective lift in your car? and what is your input on the car handling in freeway at a high speed? Also I noticed some kind of debris falling during parts of your video, first I thought it was snow 🤣 but soon realized that you are in Hawaii.... is that volcanic ashes? if is so that's amazing! Thank you!
It's 4" front and 4.5" rear over stock. 3" lift with 30" tires that provide an added 1".
Highway driving is fine until I start hitting curvy roads. Without swaybars, the roll is evident. However, the Ironman suspension I have offsets the lack of sway bars with pre-tuned spring rates and damping.
Yes I'm in Hawaii, but I don't live near any volcanoes. I'm on another island.
Great video thank u for sharing
How you liking that Dirtcom Trail Swing?
Great! Best rear tire carrier you can get.
How did you cover the space between your skid plate and the bumper chop? I have been fascinated with your design as the Crosstrek sport’s bumper lines are angled weird and what you did makes so much sense. However I did not understand if you were using heat formed plastic or a custom cut metal plate to cover and protect the gap (as well as mount the front plate). Please let me know as I want to try something similar on my lifted white 22 Sport? Thank you
You guessed right. Heat formed 1/4" thick ABS plastic.
@@octurbojoe thanks for the reply. Can I also ask How did you attach it to the the vehicle/skid plate?
Great build. Even taking into account the tires, locker, and deleted sway bars on your car I'm impressed with some of those hills you were able to power up. I see so many vids with subarus bogging out on inclines like that due to the cvt cutting power. Any thoughts on this--did I miss something in your build that contributes? Also, what is that thing you're turning on before you take hills that makes that brief cop horn chirp?
Xmode
Now, let's take a look at Joe, to see what kind of damage he took at the end of the video. 😬😂
Luckily, I had good articulation. I would've pulled a link (muscle). Lol.
Too bad ASFIR don’t make Gen 4 Outback
Ummm….if I want to off-roading without skitplates then that’s my problem and it shouldn’t inconvenience you or anybody else, at the end of the day it’s my problem. Not everyone has all the money to buy all that gear but that shouldn’t stop you from getting out there to enjoy your new subie, don’t get me wrong I would love to have all that gear for my Outback but that don’t stop me from wheeling it and having a good time with it, you just have to smart about it….most of the times people are more then happy to help a person who gets into car trouble at the trails…I know i would help someone in need….
First of all, your problem will be others problems. While not everyone can afford gear, they're not entitled to receiving repairs from others because they went out on the trail unprepared.
Most would certainly help someone as a good Samaritan, but most would not be happy, especially for a bashed oil pan, snapped oil pickup, or a depleted transmission. Any of those will render the vehicle inoperable. How would you tow another Subaru with your Outback when your towing capacity is more than likely half the GVWR of the other? You would certainly overwork your engine, transmission, suspension, and chassis, and damage something in the process.
Our cars are lower than the average truck, even when lifted, and are certainly are not Jeeps by any stretch of the imagination. And although Subaru does not condone what they advertise, especially wheeling, skid plates should be first thing to install. Even the Wilderness models have optional skid plates to purchase if you need it. But if you don't need it, that's your problem, right?
@@octurbojoe so if I understand you correctly, if I were to break down on a trail then somehow or someway will end up being your or someone else’s problem?
How is that possible? Are you or someone else going to pay for my tow truck? Are you or someone else going to pay for the damage on my vehicle? Are you or someone else going to stress about fixing my vehicle? I think not….
If anything you should maybe feel bad for that person and just be thankful that your not in that same dire situation and then either offer some help or just mind your own business and continue on with your trail run…both are perfectly fine choices. Thank god I’ve never broken down and hopefully i never do but more importantly I hope nobody breaks down at the same time and on the same trail that your on. Also, i would never have someone with a smaller vehicle then mine tow/pull my vehicle, nor would I be begging anyone to help me, I would just simply pay for a tow truck like a normal person would or I would just have my trail buddy pull me with his tacoma which he loves to do and I love to return the favor when he gets stuck, nothing like testing my Outback’s pulling power and awd system then pulling his stuck Tacoma out of some very sticky mud hole, especially when going up a hill. Yes, i like to over stress my vehicles but I also don’t bitch or act surprised when something breaks.
Look man, I don’t know the kind of people you come across but seems like you come across some not very nice people, since most of the people Ive come across have always been more then happy/eager to help anybody who needed help on the trail, especially a fellow Subaru owner. On top of all that, there’s always people who bring their old beater 4WD/AWD cars that always tend to break….so that right there alone, invalidates your point. Just imagine If you were to require everyone to have all that protection gear that you have(which I admit looks totally cool and very useful) then hardly anyone would be able to get out there and enjoy the trails….So again, how would it be an inconvenience to you or someone else?
You don’t even have to talk with the person that broke down, you could just simply move on…and that’s ok…..we are all free to ride what we brought and enjoy it however we want and if it breaks down then thats the owners problem, so don’t worry…..I promise you it’s ok for you to continue on the trail without me.
@@SubieandFriends You said in your first comment, "you just have to smart about it." It's not smart to wheel or even overland without skids. Period.
You explain things as if everything works in a perfect world where it's butterflies and roses. Your personal experience does not make it okay for a large audience of newcomers. Others may not have friends like you, rely on others to pull them out, or have cell phone signal to call a tow truck. Also, not all trails are open. For example, we have trails where zero tow trucks can get to. But some good samaritan, a friend who's already there, or someone good will take their time away from their busy lives to get out there for the stupidity of the owner of the broken vehicle with no skid plates.
I explain in this video what the worst can happen on a trail and recommend something that can protect their investment.
You on the other hand, are basically telling people who have made a 20k-30k purchase on a car to, based on your experience, go on a trail without protection and to just be smart about it? Kinda counterintuitive if you ask me.
Joe's giving solid advice. If you don't need skids then you aren't wheelin hard enough. Sometimes it takes a damaged pan or two to learn. God speed.
This comment is not based in reality. Not many of us have the luxury of trails and mountain systems that tow trucks can get to. As someone that has towed other Subarus (without skid plates) thru snow with my Subaru, it most definitely becomes my problem when those that I am wheeling with (even in a big group) destroy their transmission pans on rocks. It becomes my problem when I end up using my tools and materials to make repairs on vehicles that could’ve been prevented. Shit happens and we all understand that. But what’s inexcusable is when it could’ve been preventable. “YoU doNt haVe tO heLp tHem” If you genuinely believe that attempting to help someone that is stranded and otherwise screwed, is a negotiable factor, then I am concerned for the integrity of your ethics.
aLL tHiS reCovEry GeaR. Bro. Primitive racing skid plates are $480 for ALL THREE. You could reasonably forgo the rear diff skid plate for a bit and save $120. That’s roughly $380 after taxes. If you can’t find $380 to protect your vehicle, not just for off-road, but on road, then you should find a different hobby. We both know those KMCs weren’t cheap so don’t give the iM poOr excuse. I want you to understand that you have a dangerous perspective that isn’t too hard to concede “hey man, I should probably get skid plates so I don’t spend $3k on a new CVT”
No one is saying you need to buy a $300 kinetic rope, $200 recovery boards, etc etc. Guarantee I wheel harder than you and even I don’t need all that. Amazon works wonders, on certain items. Don’t skimp on protection and sure as hell don’t advocate for that. Trail safe bro.