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Famous Shogi Games: HABU vs NAKAGAWA (Oct. 14th, 2007)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2009
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A great turn-around game in NHK-cup tournament. Habu wins a completely losing game.
You can also find videos on youtube where you can actually see them playing!
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This is the coolest game I have seen soo far! These type of gameplay make it soo interesting to learn more about shogi!
That clearly shows that in Shogi, if you lose the initiative, you get crushed by your opponent.
Ja!
One of the best games covered so far IMO.
Keep it up!
Dropping the pieces always trips me up. I have the chess mindset of trading when attacking is bad but it’s the opposite in Shogi because you get the piece in hand to play anywhere.
リアルタイムで見ましたよ、これ。
「あれ、あれ？ ひぃぇぇぇ、ひょぅぅぅぅ！！」
Katou-Hifumi 9Dan said, "It will be the Greatest reversal game in the history of NHK-Cup Tourment".
この棋譜が知りたかった。Up感謝です。
Jesus christ this game is even hard to follow, I remember the moves but I still forget what the chinese characters look like for each piece... will take me a while to get a hold of any strategy, but it's still entertaining to watch
The hardest ones for me to learn were lance, knight, and silver. But if you sit down for an hour looking at the pieces and their names it should stick.
Oh and dont even bother trying to remember promoted names/symbols besides promoted Rook and Bishop. Every other piece promotes to a gold general.
Excellent video!
Because in the endgame, material gain is less important than speed.
Moving the silver to 4b will just help black gain speed, for example by G-5b, although S-4b is not too bad.
うん、どこからみても名局だ。双方にとって妥当な落としどころは７三金、９二飛、８三金、６二飛の千日手なんだろうけど、羽生さんが打開したからこそこのドラマティックな結末は生まれた。それにしても敗勢の中、７七桂のような手がよく浮かぶものだ。いつ見てもこの将棋は背筋が凍る。
Thanks!
I have the entire Habu Nakagawa game on DVD. Can I upload it on RUclips? Or does the NHK prohibit it?
コメント有難うございます。
よろしくお願い致します。
You should use "Subtitle Workshop".
First you download the video from youtube, and load the video file to subtitle workshop, and then you start making subtitles.
After it's done, you save it to SUB format, and send it to me. I'll upload it on youtube.
Thanks for posting this video! I saw the end of this game in those videos you posted several months ago and I've been curious how it got to that situation.
素晴らしい
Very interesting game
great video.
@xDAZZE: 1. Kx2c 2. P*2d 3. Kx2b 4. S*2c 5. Gx2c 6. Px2c+ 7. Kx2c 8. P*2d 9. K-3b 10. S-4c+ 11. Kx4a 12. G*4b is mate. There are several variations to this (like 9. Kx2d 10. N*3f 11. K-2c 12. P*2d and then it continues with the above mate), but to every variation, there's no way to escape checkmate. Habu's endgame was perfect after S*2b.
@robotnik14: I don't know how to do it in any other program, but in BCMShogi, you load the Kifu of the game and then select Game -> Playing Mode and then make sure the players are both the engine you want to analyze with. Select the game time for how long you want the analysis to take, and then choose the "Autoanalyze" option, and then press Okay. The engines will then start analyzing the game, and will bring up a chart for who was better in each move, and it can recommend moves it prefers.
すっかり有名になった大逆転の将棋ですね。中川さんもプロ的な手を重ねていたんですが微妙に温い手とかがあり、最終的に羽生さんが見事な即詰に討ち取りました。
Ｐ．Ｓ．この動画は日本の人も結構見ていると思います。
well,,, i think there is a video about them for the final 10-20 moves... show that habu win a losing game,
nice game anyway.
I really liked this game. Thanks for posting! By the way, what program do you use to play shougi?
Just got into shogi and can barely recognize the Japanese on the pieces. Nevertheless, these videos are very interesting and help my shogi skills.
I just recently got into it as well, don't worry it gets much easier as time goes on. I've been checkmated before though because I thought a bishop was a rook lol
I recommend an Android app called PIYOSHOGI (ぴよ将棋）It is in Japanese, but you can get the grip out of it. The good thing about this app is that you can change the pieces to different modes, and one of them shows the possible movements of each piece, so you can learn it easily : )
@TokyoGamer Thanks, but I can recognize the pieces now. In fact, I used an apple app similar to the one you described. It is great to see how helpful and friendly the Shogi community is. God bless!
Habu dont haveto take the bishop h4 and he willby better because nakagawa s bishop is not active and rook is not active to
Thanks. I miscounted the moves. It seemed that if the King took the 2d pawn after the first drop then Knight drop after that, Habu will be short by 1 pawn. In the end I guess it worked out.
コメント有難うございます。
日本語のコメントを頂けると、ほっとします。。
Good idea.
I think I'll do that.
この将棋改めてみてるんですが、相掛かりの将棋だったんですね！
How can I add on the Chinese subtitles on this video?
At 18:32, what if the King took 2c pawn, then Silver can promote and take Knight but it won't be a check. If he goes with the similar lines, he can always take the Silver on 2c later, and the Gold protects 4c square so 5d Silver cannot promote to 4c. Wouldn't that be no mate?
at 2:34, how about white making bishop exchange? Black can take it with knight or gold, both of which don't seem to be good structures. Or is there any reason in particular, why White COULDN'T do the bishop exchange at that moment?
Its been 6 years but they simply didn't want to waste a turn, they wanted a bishop exchange where they can develop their silver
Where you can see at 11:58 a Checkmate?
ROOK to 6G, promotes & check to KING. If KING goes to 7i, then White SILVER drop 6H and checkmate. If KING goes to 5i, then White SILVER drop to 5H check. Black GOLD has to take that SILVER (there is no other possibility. KING cannot take it as it is protected by White ROOK), then ROOK moves to 5H, capturing Black GOLD and checkmate (ROOK is protected by BISHOP in 5H from 8E).
Also, unfortunately, Hidetchi is not on RUclips anymore. He stopped uploading videos, but you can find him somewhere in Twitter or Facebook, I think. We believe he lost his RUclips password and the recovery email address got also lost or something.
Maybe you could also make a video of this Habu-Oyama game? watch?v=6Yzk-Hg10Fw
I wonder why he assigns "black" to be the first player whereas in chess it's the white?
I've never lost to a chess or strategy player. I just don't understand the point. When I was a child, I notice a pattern common in chess players and here. They only understand conflict as a way to win. This is limiting and dangerous when facing an opponent skilled in the art of victory through non fighting.
I understand some societies deem intelligence connected to these games and I'm not disbarring the opinion but, chess players are very easy to beat. These are the guys too focused on developing military in CIV instead of controlling all strategic resources and trade routes forcing other players to protect and fight for you because without you, they can't survive or run their civilizations. Chess players can only see the path to victory through conflict. You just have to choose the paths away from that. Normally, they'll destroy themselves with minimal effort from you. Like in CIV, if I own all the uranium, rubber, coal, steel and most trade routes, a chess player will always have to play at a disadvantage on my terrain.
You’re a pompous clown. You’re no philosopher.
Who is black