Joscha Bach, Yulia Sandamirskaya: "The Third Age of AI: Understanding Machines that Understand"

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

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  • @tbossert6624
    @tbossert6624 2 года назад +8

    I’m devostated, that I missed this event! Joscha Bach on a talk in Germany!? Damn! It is always a great pleasure, listening to his extremely intelligent interpretations of our world.

    • @drmedwuast
      @drmedwuast 2 года назад

      just thought the same. Deutsches Museum is like 12 minutes from my house, damn

    • @uwepleban3784
      @uwepleban3784 Год назад

      Same here. Frankfurt is just a few hours away, and this event would definitely have been worthwhile.

  • @davidw8668
    @davidw8668 Год назад +3

    Pretty cool presentations. Love how both fight with constructive and clever arguments in the discussions in the second part. Great discourse

  • @mgg4338
    @mgg4338 2 года назад +25

    Joscha, why don't you have your own channel where you interview people, like Lex Friedman?! You are a great interviewer!

    • @MiniV826
      @MiniV826 2 года назад +4

      Because he's busy

    • @e555t66
      @e555t66 2 года назад +3

      He would be so bored if he did that. I wish there were better people to interview him.

    • @mgg4338
      @mgg4338 2 года назад

      @@e555t66 well, imagine Joscha interviewing Elon Musk, Erik Weinstein, John Carmack, Lee Cronin, Edward Snowden, Richard Dawkins, Roger Penrose, Stephen Wolfram, Douglas Hofstadter...

    • @e555t66
      @e555t66 2 года назад

      @@mgg4338 If he interviews them it would be unusable for us.

    • @BenReierson
      @BenReierson Год назад +4

      I just want him to have a standing invitation on lex every six months.

  • @curtiso779
    @curtiso779 2 года назад +2

    That lecture theatre looks so chill

  • @BaccaratKingmaker
    @BaccaratKingmaker 5 месяцев назад

    Support Vector Machine (SVM) is a supervised machine learning algorithm that is used for classification and regression tasks. It works by finding the hyperplane that best separates different classes in the feature space. SVM aims to maximize the margin between the hyperplane and the nearest data points from each class, making it effective for both linearly separable and non-linearly separable data. If you have any specific questions or need more details about SVM, feel free to ask!

  • @Telencephelon
    @Telencephelon Год назад +1

    I love this talk It shows the inherent biases of Josch Bach. She makes a perfect point here: 44:19
    She is much deeper in the research it seems

  • @benjaminandersson2572
    @benjaminandersson2572 2 года назад +8

    59:37 eerily similar facial expression to Bach:s

  • @waynewells2862
    @waynewells2862 Год назад +2

    Great constructive back and forth! Genesis interpretation though speculative rang true with me. We often do not give credit to our ancestors or other life forms for that matter.

  • @buh357
    @buh357 2 года назад +10

    what is on joscha´s neck?

    • @randompal9828
      @randompal9828 2 года назад +1

      Something to hold another something similar to a mask

    • @dstart1
      @dstart1 2 года назад

      @@randompal9828 What?

    • @primetimedurkheim2717
      @primetimedurkheim2717 2 года назад +5

      It's a face shield holder. You place a plastic shield in it to protect from bees. Joscha is extraordinarily phobic of bees.

    • @nategibso
      @nategibso 2 года назад +5

      Respiray Wearable Air Purifier

    • @madzubmetler
      @madzubmetler 2 года назад +4

      His head.

  • @buh357
    @buh357 2 года назад +1

    I would stand with Joscha and work with him regarding simulation and algorithm instead of hardware,
    because our brain is hardware with an extremely flexible algorithm,
    I would love to know what algorithm could be self-ware and human-like intelligent

    • @marneninagavenkat7149
      @marneninagavenkat7149 2 года назад +1

      Nested feedback loops of regulations.

    • @daarom3472
      @daarom3472 Год назад

      our brain isn't hardware, its liveware. The physical properties of our brain are constantly being changed which is incomparable to how computers work.

  • @pinkpalmsmusic
    @pinkpalmsmusic 2 года назад +1

    This is so goddamn interesting.

  • @guillermobrand8458
    @guillermobrand8458 Год назад +1

    What is behind the word “understand”?
    There is an Agent, an entity credited with the ability to understand.
    Information is involved, and information processing. Information processing “leads” from “not understanding” to “understanding”.
    There is a "something" that is understood
    That "something" is coherent in itself, which implies generating a model and validating it.
    Validation is associated with certainty
    There is a process associated with the ability to understand; that is, we can speak of “the action of understanding”. All action takes place in the present
    What is understood, at the same time is learned. Learning is capable of being stored. Eventually, stored learning is likely to be "recalled."
    The information associated with "understanding" is limited to a specific segment of "reality".
    In every action of understanding there is an input of information, a "reading of information", information that is part of the aforementioned "segment of reality".

  • @CultivationPath
    @CultivationPath 2 года назад +1

    The fact that the Lists on the Screen started with (1) and not with (0) was a huge missed oportunity

  • @Igor_Zdrowowicz
    @Igor_Zdrowowicz 2 года назад +1

    51:10 brutal.

    • @stretch8390
      @stretch8390 Год назад

      Do you know what kind of simulations Joscha is referring to writing at that time stamp?

  • @Bonn5656
    @Bonn5656 Год назад

    Wow, Joscha in the different level thhan Yulia. Like the rest that he talks to. Amazing video, tnx!!

  • @spectator5144
    @spectator5144 Год назад

    wow

  • @smartbart80
    @smartbart80 Год назад

    AC broke?

  • @mgg4338
    @mgg4338 2 года назад +1

    I like the idea of hardware and software as two opposite paths converging toward the mind, but it feels like a dog and his owner trying to meet halfway across a wide river. The first swims, the second uses a speedboat...

  • @MichaelSmith420fu
    @MichaelSmith420fu Год назад

    @1:08:15... ya?

  • @marianpalko2531
    @marianpalko2531 2 года назад

    34:37

  • @tedchapple
    @tedchapple Год назад +1

    Elon needs to hire both of these people and give them lots of money. Joscha should lead the software AI team and Yulia should lead the robotic hardware team. I think that would be the fastest and maybe the only way to achieve fully functional self driving cars and that would lead directly to really useful Teslabots.

    • @snarkyboojum
      @snarkyboojum 4 месяца назад

      What software has Joscha written that would qualify him for such a role?

  • @Gattomorto12
    @Gattomorto12 Год назад

    1

  • @mayhemposser7635
    @mayhemposser7635 2 года назад

    disney universe 3

  • @snarkyboojum
    @snarkyboojum 4 месяца назад

    This is probably going to be a confrontational take, but I find Bach’s takes to be quite derivative. I hear many others peoples views packaged up and replayed by him when he speaks on a topic but I don’t ever hear anything truly original from him. I’d rather listen to thinkers like Deutsch, LeCun, Chollet and even Wolfram (god forbid).

  • @paxdriver
    @paxdriver Год назад

    We know a lot about algebra, and engineering, and materials, but compared to every other field of science what we know about how the brain works is as little as a dog knows about how a car works. They know it moves and they can move inside of it, but a dog has no clue the essence of a car's manufacturing, financing, driver training, supply chain, road rules, etc.
    We know the brain uses compartments and hormones and synapses but we don't know f all about the emergence of conscious experience which is everything as far as intelligence or emergent organizational self-assembling structures are concerned.
    We are objectively ignorant of the brain relative to everything else we've studied in the universe. The brain isn't at all we understood, it is just heavily studied but that doesn't mean it's well known or mapped. Most things are well understood by being this heavily studied, but the brain is an anomaly. Just because we've put the effort in doesn't mean we've succeeded. We don't even understand disorders or medications like antidepressants at a mechanical level yet, despite our studies and prescriptions over the past 3 decades. Compare that to any other field, 3 decades is a whole new branch of study most other bodies of science. Machine learning has come farther in 30 years than neurology relative to where it began 30 years ago.

  • @Mramidu
    @Mramidu 2 года назад +3

    Josha need to stick to AI and leave genesis/religion alone. He completely miss the mark. Genesis is a symbolic pattern that can't be comprehend thru scientific thinking

    • @ShpanMan
      @ShpanMan 2 года назад +1

      Yes, it's funny that he gives so much importance to something written by cave people...

    • @Eziolise
      @Eziolise 2 года назад +5

      🙄 y’all would make terrible scientists

    • @possumface2425
      @possumface2425 2 года назад +7

      I think he knows that. Maybe you missed the analogy he was making with a symbolic pattern.

    • @christopherhamilton3621
      @christopherhamilton3621 Год назад +1

      Nonsense… He’s right to ridicule clearly idiotic ideas.

  • @GingerBalls999
    @GingerBalls999 2 года назад +6

    14:46
    lmfao wtf the way he drinks