Removing Rust with Vinegar and Salt
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2017
- I'm cleaning up a vice I got from my grandpa to put on my newly finished bench. I read an article (www.finewoodworking.com/2014/0...) about using salt and vinegar to remove rust, so I thought I'd give it a try.
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The vinegar leaves an acidic coating on the metal, which will quickly begin flash rust. Once the piece is rust free and removed from the vinegar, wash it well with water and baking soda. This will neutralize the acid from the vinegar. It greatly reduces the flash rust. Another tip is to never put rusted bolts/nuts in vinegar. The rust will come off, but the bolts/nuts may lose some metal from the threads during the process. This could cause them to be useless.
What would you recommend for removing surface rust from nuts and bolts?
@@nathantaylor6853 A brass wire wheel on a bench grinder. If it is only a little surface rust, vinegar will take it off pretty quickly. If the rust is even starting to get heavy, don't use vinegar, since it may decrease the bolt size and increase the nut size threads. It might be a best to just get new bolts and nuts, unless the rust truly is just very minor surface rust.
Thank you for adding this awesome tid-bit...Who knew?
If they a re that rusted they are already useless
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How nice that your preserved your dad’s vise that he made himself. You are a true gentleman.
VISE!
@@Arthur172B
You are right. I edited my spelling.
I just tried malt vinager with salt on a pair of keys I have been fighting with getting the rust off and wow it took the rust off within a minute!!!!! Amazing!
Let me know what you think, and thanks for watching! Take care.
Wow I hope this will help an old candelabra I Own. You are a clean guy, I admire men who are clean and organized. Thank you for the video!!
You could have put water into the bucket, on the outside of the plastic bag, in order to displace the air in the bag and maximize the contact of the vinegar on your tool.
Good idea! Why didn't I think of that? Thanks for the tip, and take care.
Brian Hilson What I do is put plastic milk jugs / soda bottles , fill them up with water so they don't float .
you smart
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Or just use a battery, get a spare metal rod to extract the rust from the component you want to get the rust off of, then connect a possitive wire to the rod and the negative to the rusted component, then fill the bucket up with water and baking soda then place the components inside the bucket and leave it overnight, (note connect all the components together when their in the water!)
That's a nice, simple looking vice. Almost Scandinavian looking in its minimalist design. It looked clean to me to begin with. I usually use a wire brush and a cordless drill for removing rust like this. I never thought of using vinegar.....?
Looks like a great tool worth saving. Well done on restoring something that was made to last, for other generations, it may well get a lot more use when you are gone.
Not to mention good vices are expensive.
Really nice vice ......great method too...My great grandfather used Three and One on his pistol back in Ireland.
I would have used Brillo pads or SOS pads and then put on a thin layer of rem oil or other oil protectant over the steel once it was clean. Never saw this way to remove rust..
Thanks for sharing!
I’m hooked on using vinegar ( like the Dad was always using Windex on the movie My Fat Greek wedding). My home is from 1909. I’ve soaked my old rustic antique door knobs & hinges & old rusty tools…in vinegar ( inside a bucket). The following day, I just wiped off the vinegar with a brush ( some of the vinegar, I just peeled it off) - worked great ! I use vinegar just about for everything. I never thought about using salt with the vinegar. I’ll give that a try. Tysvm !
This is a very gentle way to clean silver jewelry too. I've used it for the last twenty years or so to clean my silver Navaho jewelry. It won't harm soft semi-precious stones like tourquoise. You can then use tooth paste to polish it. This will also remove tarnish form brass and copper too.
Just found you...I'm a grandma...you are a great teacher cause I got it!
your dad and grand dad would be proud of you fine job
Great video, and I appreciate U telling about your trial and error with getting rust off.
That’s a really cool vise design that your dad built. Very cool.
Welp, welcome to another episode of Where Quarantine Has Taken Me Today
🤣Same here
I’m tryna clean my rusty penny board bolts lol
😂😂
Lol
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The sodium chloride (salt) increases the conductivity and facilitates a redox process.The salt is just a catalyst to speed up the reaction given how dilute vinegar is. It forms CuCl2 in minute quantities which enables the neutralization to speed up.
Are we watching the same video? There's no copper parts, nor an electric current flowing?
@@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse Who said anything about electrical current. This is only chemistry.
don't throw out the mixture when finished,,,,spray it on your fenceline and around fence posts power pole etc. to kill weeds
And ants
Very knowledgeable, thoughtful, and well-presented video; thank you for sharing.
Good video. If you take one piece out at a time and use a hose sprayer the black sludge will come off as soon as it hits it, leaving new looking steel. It has to be sprayed immediately after being removed from the vinegar or the sludge will reattach and you'll need to use a steel brush like on the video. You also need to dry it immediately, or it will start to rust again.
To help preserve it, try some LPS #1.
It works really well. I use it from refurbished parts to making my motorcycle engines look new all the time.
I have no idea how I ended up on this page... didn't even know what a vice was up until 15 mins ago. But I watched the whole video and enjoyed it! A job well done!
That came out really well. A good tip. Thanks.
Thanks, take care!
Great video Brian my husband was a machinist at trade also and he made the same tool very kool .I will be using your rust remover trick on my 63' chevy nova it's all original and has some rust in spots .Thanks so much for sharring God bless 🙏💜
Love it that it was made by his family 👍
Works really well on brass and copper too….
A container with a bicarbonate solution to dip in will quickly neutralise the acid, then protect with oil etc..
Brian the vice looks really nice the vinegar and salt solution worked really well.Thanks be blessed.
Hot apple cider vinegar with a lot of salt makes a very energetic reaction. I had old screws from an RC car completely rusted, and in about 10 minuet they were completely clean. Good stuff.
The temperature of the vinegar makes no difference and apple cider vinegar is less acidic than regular vinegar. So, you basically just did exactly what he is doing with less chemical reaction. lol
@@andrewnyberg5726 "The temperature of the vinegar makes no difference." Sure about that?
@@zackthebongripper7274 yes.
@@jeffclark5268 Yes what.
@@andrewnyberg5726 You're wrong though. Heat ACCELERATES chemical reactions. It's pretty basic science.
Try it on something blued for example. Room temp vinegar takes a while, but heat the vinegar and it strips the bluing in seconds.
it might be a good idea to rinse the metal parts in a mixture of warm water and bicarbonate of soda for about 30mins , just to make sure all acid is neutralised. Then you wipe everything dry and apply some heat to make sure all water is evaporated. Have you tried ACF 50 ? good rust protector
I'm going to try this! Thank you so much!
Not a problem!
I have done this with vinegar (no salt) for years in restoring my Model A or vintage auto parts. You have a really bad technique by using the black trash bags and colored pail as you did. Simply put everything into a clear plastic bin and then cover the tools with enough vinegar to be over the top of them. Set the whole think out into the hot Texas sun (or any other sun that is near as hot) in full sunlight and let nature take it's course. It can take up to seven days, but most of the time only a couple of days to remove virtually all of the rust and any remaining will brush off or rinse off quite easily. The residual vinegar will not hurt the environment when poured out. You must remember to oil the parts with a protective agent like Corrosion X or they will flash rust pretty soon after all your work is done. Do not use WD40 for this, but you can use a light coating of oil or machine oil to prevent the flash rusting from happening. Forget to do this and expect that rust to reappear No need for black plastic bag or a colored pail. Also remember that if you allow the parts to drip onto any floor surface or such when removing them, you need to clean it all up immediately. To me, I do not see any issue with handling the tools in this mixture with bare hands instead of using gloves as you did. Like say, I am now 70 years old and have used this exact technique probably since the age of 12. I have some sockets in a mixture at the moment and no worry over anything eating away the entire part. That hot sun to bask them all in is the major thing in helping it work for you.
a1930ford how do prevent rust from coming back? Does any motor oil works ?
I agree.vinegar is the best.i recently heard about transmission fluid and acetone mixed is an excellent rust cleaner????
Here is what is really happening in this experiment on rust removal: The salt will dissolve in the vinegar, which is mostly water. However, a chemical reaction will also occur with the vinegar's acetic acid (CH3COOH) and the ions of sodium and chlorine from the salt, producing sodium acetate and a dilute solution of hydrochloric acid. Thus, the mixture can be used to clean pennies and remove mild rust from items.
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No. It doesn't work like that. You can't simply get hydrochloric acid or sodium acetate by mixing together sodium chloride and acetic acid. There is no reaction. Sodium chloride (table salt) is the product of reaction of a strong base and acid, namely Sodium Hydroxide and Hydrochloric Acid, and since Acetic Acid is a much weaker acid it can't displace the chlorine ion of the chloride. If it would be a stronger acid like Sulfuric Acid then it would work like that. But in this case, no.
Im too confused becaouse im a grade 3 in philipines
Glad I checked the comments, I was trying to figure out why there was an Na atom in hydrochloric acid (HCl) in the initial post. Seemed a bit unconventional to me. I was hoping someone would clarify what was going on.
Shut up nerd
You get me of course
I like the family history lesson
I made that same vise, appears to be missing the keeper that snaps on the screw, right behind the front face, as the screw comes out, the front face moves along with it.. nice cleaning technique..
Thank you man it work for me
How ever i am a sri lankan.
I used sri lankan vinager and salt
Worked well with me! I get impatient so I tried to scrub every few minutes. Not very efficient though. Just follow the video and let it soak for a long time
Vinegar plus salt worked out well Thank u
very helpful, and in full detail, really good to use natural materials to clean, thanks so much.
Good solution for rust. Thanks
What's the mixture rate of vinegar to salt? Great video I have a stop that I made which is getting quite rusty.
What this video shows well is the rust-busting power of vinegar. I would suggest, as you fine-tune your scrubbing, to use Barkeepers Helper (for cleaning pots and pans) - which will really clean down in to the porous places in the steel. Using it is the equivalent of sanding wood with a fine-grain sandpaper.
it works well on some rocks and minerals to.
Good that I watched this video O.o
I wanted to remove rust from a garlic press, just found out today that it's made out of aluminum, too....
vinegar is great for getting rid of corrosion & lime as well surprisingly
I use molasses and water also. I use pickling vinegar on small parts.
Might want to use scotch-brite pads to clean the rust slime off. Also a silicon spray or even a WD40 spray will help make the steel rust resistant (and of course, paint the steel plate, and areas that do not get movement, you can use a rust resistant paint tol even protect better)
i dont know about using salt and vinegar to remove rust, but it does work incredibly well to clean tarnish from copper. I have copper pots and pans and it works like a charm to clean them.
Huh, nice to know. Thanks for the tip!
it also makes potato chips taste good
Nice I don't even own a vice but watching this was therapeutic nice job +1 for sentimental value. At least from me lol
sounds like Hank Hill. Instantly subscribed!
From my experience salt is important because it has abrasive properties. When I clean my bong I use rubbing alcohol with salt generously and it’s extraordinary how the salt scrubs like the ocean consistently. Nice bro.
I have clean the silver plated trumpet using a solution of vinegar salt and then wrapping it in tin foil. Worked great.
Rinse in boiling hot water. As soon as you remove item from the water they will dry almost immediately. Immediately oil. I have cleaned many tools that were "unusable" this way.
AMAZING, GOOD WORK
This trick works pretty well on precision screwdriver bit kits.💯
Here in the UK we usually put salt and vinegar on our chips - you'd probably call them French Fries. I can honestly say I've never seen a rusty chip!
Seriously, whatever you use to clean rust off, be careful how long you leave it in there. A few years back my son decided he wanted to try cleaning up my late Dad's old hand drill so he stripped it all down. I can't recall what liquid it was he left it in - maybe vinegar, maybe Coke or maybe something else. Whatever it was, frankly, he forgot about it so it was in there for at least weeks, maybe months.
When I finally decided I should take over and remove it, the chuck was so badly pitted and holed it would have been unsafe to use. The metal (I guess the chuck is softer metal than the chassis/frame) had been significantly eaten away. We have plenty of corded and cordless drills now so it's not as though we *would* have used it. All the same ... it was Dad's 😞
I would guess the vinegar disssolved the brass parts in youre lock. Nice tip though will be trying it out on some nuts and bolts from an old bike I'm restoring
your bench top looks lovely, is it laminated or one piece?
I said, "Propane" not "cocaine" ,Dammit Bobby!
🤣 he does sound like hank
LOL.
Hahaha i notice than..
thanks :) just what I needed
Does anyone know how/if it would work on something where you're not able to soak it in the vinegar and salt? I have a wrought iron bed that has some rust spots I want to clean up, but it's a queen size headboard, no real way to soak it unless I had a pool of vinegar and salt. heh
You didn't need the salt for it to work. You also did not use enough vinegar, you need to cover it completely to get the best result. You should have rinsed the vice off with water before scrubbing to stop the vinegar from getting inside any pores you open up while scrubbing.
Boiling steel in vinegar will work as a blackening agent so be careful.
SilentStorm )
Boiling vinegar also releases toxic gas which can kill you in an enclosed space, ventilate!
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Wonder if you added oxyclean, I saw someone use that as a rust remover and had pretty good results. I think he had the mixture heated up to a warm temperature.
But this worked great.
Gosh darn this guy can clean anything.
That's good idea with the simple way, tank a lot for sharing the video.
Thanks for watching! Take care.
Would peroxide work as well? Would you still use salt with peroxide or would an acid like lemon be better? This was impressive btw. That paper towel move was brilliant. Thanks
Have you tried to warm-boil the solution of vinegar-salt and then puting in the rusty item?? Will it be better? Just a thought
Olive oil works great against rust. That rust that was showing up as you were cleaning, is called "FLASH-RUST," quite common. If you don't want to worry about rust at all, I suggest you paint with something like epoxy (two-part) paint. One part paint, One part hardener.
Olive oil is what has been used for centuries as a coating on clean iron or steel to seal the surface. I dries into a sort of thin hard varnish. In the 18th % 19th centuries, olive oil was commonly used to wipe down cleaned musket barrels in European and American military forces. An inventory ordered by Gen. Henry Knox, Sec. of War in the US in the 1990s, revealed huge amounts of olive oil if ordnance stores. It was called "sweet oil". Petroleum-derived oil did not come into widespread use until after the mid-1800s.
Great video!
Thanks! Take care.
I tell you wut this guy knows about rust and removal accessories. 😀
Thanks for the info and the video. Two questions. First of all i want to remove rust from tools. Will be better if i spray them after this procedure with a metal paint? What do you think? And the most important. After almost 3 years from this video,what is the condition of the tool? The rust came back? Do i need to do this often? Greetings from Greece
This method removes rust, and that is all. Rust will return immediately if left unprotected. Paint is not the best method to prevent rust because it chips off tools and it cannot be used on working parts. Firstly, if you dont want to polish the items you can get a better appearance after you remove the rust...let it get very slightly rusty again then use rust remover with Phospheric Acid ingredient. That will convert very fine rust into a dull grey coating, which looks very nice. Then to protect the phophor coating or bare steel, I have always used Lanolin spray (the oil from sheep wool), which penetrates and lubricated then sort of semi-dries to a soft coating, but sticks like a grease on the surface. Works great for objects you don't touch, but can be slightly sticky or gooey when you first grab (say) a pair of pliers. I like the smooth and silky feeling but it can be annoying sometimes. I am currently testing Penetrol spray, which is called a "drying oil". It has super low viscosity and will creep into every crevice, screw threads, etc and literally seal off the oxygen that causes the rust. On the outside surface it dries to a slightly glossy coating that feels nice to touch. Note you need to make sure to leave tool hanging (not laying on a surface) while it dries, so there is no build up. The coating is really thin and invisible, and you dont really need to remove the rust first, plus you can even paint over Penetrol with solvent-based paints. I think Penetrol is the best for things like drill bits, pliers, etc but the lanoline is better for lubrication of hinges etc and it also tends to self-help if the film gets rubbed off. Lanolin also smells nice and feels wonderful on your hands! Other things like WD40, 3-in-1 oli, engine oils, Camelia oil and other stuff you hear about online just don't work well in a humid climate, or for tools stored in a outbuilding like garage. They are OK for tools that you use continually, but why not use something better and not have to worry about re-oiling every few months?
Thank you!
I thought he was going to make a joke when he opened that bag that it turned into a roasted chicken. Still funny. Good video. Thanks
and i would probably Recommend painting it after it is dry as most paints stop rust from forming again
Good advice. I haven't gotten around to painting it, but with a light coat of oil it's stayed rust free so far.
That is good
a clear coat if you want to keep it looking original
could galvanize the parts.
Nice video thanks for posting; I would have taken that handle apart becouse you still have rust under and in it that will migrate back on to everything; given time...
Can I use this solvent to remove rust from inside the barrel of shotgun
Will it destroy the chrome layer ?
cool nice and clean
Great job
I have a out side lamp pole and it has a lot of rust on the top. How can I cleans , soak it with vinegar and salt. Any tips.
This guy sounds exactly like Harold Ramus. (He played Russell in the movie “Stripes” with Bill Murray.
Hello,
why don´t you take "Saltacid" Salzsäure 10 % ( in German).The Zinkplaters use it. Even to plate Zink on rusty Material
Vinegar and as much salt as you can dissolve. Let sit 24 hours then rinse in a solution of water and baking soda to neutralize acidity then final rinse in hot water. This will help dry item quickly and prevent flash rust. Save your solutions in a bottle for next use. I dont know if this is the best method but has worked well for me
good vid man
have you tried, vinegar on baking soda covered rusty part?
citric acid dissolved in water works better IMO and can be re used over and over plus it doesnt eat up the metal if you forget to take it out
what if you have rusted chairs and table?
Wrap them in newspaper or something else absorbent, then saturate that with vinegar, then wrap with plastic. The more vinegar you can keep in contact with the metal, the better. Take care!
Once cleaned, how about coating the vice with Automatic Transmission Fluid for rust preventation?
I suppose that would work, as anything that contains oil will prevent rust. Take care!
Al Gorel 3bb uite
Is that perhaps why he used 3-in-1 oil?
l would think you'd want to use a brass bristled brush for cleaning this once it has soaked
Nice vise, they don’t make them like this today. I have a similar vise, made in China, that the large pieces are cast iron. Thanks....Jim
have you tested vinegar with salt vs vinegar by itself? which one is better?
Whats the best way to get rid of rust of welded steel mesh? It was not suppose to rust as it was galvanised but what do you expect when made in China
I now use rust converter off of amazon. It converts rust to primer. Read and follow directions.
I use vinegar in spray bottle to do rinse after scrubbing then I spray rubbing alcohol and cloth dry
salt causes rust when applied dried to a metal because salt absorbs humidity rusting the metal. Mixed with vinegar it has a different effect on metals.
who would have known that the master of propane and propane accessories knew so much about rusty metal as well?!
Hank hill?!
Pithuahua13 I thought Ray Ramano
Ray ramano lol
my first thought right when it began. lol
Kermit the frog
There hardly any rust.. A simple brush could easily do it
I have used this vinegar solution for years in restoring Model A and Chevy vintage car parts with great success. Forget using the plastic bag as you did and simply get a clear plastic bin to put the parts and mixture into and set out into the direct hot sunlight for a day or two (Texas hot sun is the best.). You will achieve better success than doing this process as you did, but always remember that the rust devil is just around the corner, so flash rust can happen very quickly if you do not treat the freshly restored metal with something like Corrosion X to stop that devil in his tracks. WD40 is not a long term solution to stopping any potential flash rusting of metal parts. Also remember that the strength of the vinegar can be important. as well. Canning vinegar or even cleaning vinegar is much more powerful or concentrated, but if you have the bigger pocketbook, they also sell an even higher strength of vinegar than either of them in a lot of grocery stores, including WalMart. I believe it is about 32% acidity or such, but not for sure. I never used salt with my vinegar mix and I sure did a lot of brake drums, bumpers and parts galore when I was into ding such. It is much more user friendly and less equipment necessary than electrolysis or even sand blasting. Still, flash rusting is likely if you do not treat the parts immediately with some sort of preventative afterwards. Ditch all that unnecessary bucket stuff and plastic bags, as they hamper more than they help. The hot sun beating down on a clear plastic bin filled with vinegar and water will do the trick more efficiently than what you used. You also must immerse the parts in the solution and not try to use paper towels to help suck it up and disperse it onto the parts. This method you use is great for small tools, as well, but there are products sold at Harbor Freight which will not just remove the rust, but also use and additive to keep the flash rusting away. It is much more expensive than what you are showing though and even what I recommended, but it does indeed work. It is called Evapo-Rust.
Bro, I laughed so hard at the cleaning solution being just yogurt joke 😂