The key words of this song are "the prejudice let us down". People get hung up early on with the catholic school image, establishing their prejudice. But later she sings "it was all an illusion". Even the end flips back to what the key words of the song are about, people think it's ending and then get smacked with a brutal breakdown. Their prejudice let them down. The song overall is about anyone with status using said status to teach and preach, often about things they have no authority in through expertise, but take authority in through status (and often being brutal at beating down any dissent.)
I know I'm late but this is EXACTLY what it's about idk if you watch gibby gang but he's one of the few reactors that actually knew what the song meant and explained it.
I really enjoyed your reaction. You picked up on some stuff that reactors don't usually catch or mention, like the section with the rapid triplets. Also, your hair is fire.
As far as I know Eugene (the Bassist) never played any instrument before the bass. He said he picked it up bc it was the easiest and he just wanted to have more in common with his friends that he was hanging out with alot at the time
@@MarleneMendozaMusic Try this on, more like a musik teacher settangs, and normally the first Jinjer video you show a friend. Do to the major surprise when she go metal. ruclips.net/video/SQNtGoM3FVU/видео.html
If you think these screams are brutal, jou should do "Home back". I listened to cannibal corpse when I was younger and her voice tops even that. She goes extremely low in that song.
Great reaction. Glad you are feeling better. There is an old song of theirs where she switches in midline even more called Destroy. It was written for the original singer then brutally owned when he left and Tati took over. Pit Of Consciousness is a great song with an amazing music video - best yet from their new album. The school would have been Eastern Orthodox, and probably a lot rougher in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union. :(
I believe "school" was used in the lyrics just as an example how an authority of any kind can subdue a person. And I seriously doubt that Tanya finished a school with some religious degree. I'm from a former soviet republic and first eastern orthodox school appeared here in 2007. I can even give you a link. There are not many of them till these days coz there are not many people who want to give their kids to religious schools either. Not to mention the time interval between the collapse of the Soviet Union (state ideology was based on atheism) and Tanya went to school (approximately 93 - 94) is just a 2 - years, not to much for such instances to appear.
As a rock musician yourself, could you please react to the best "hard rock" band I've heard in 30yrs? The band is "Band-Maid". Five extremely talented young women from Japan. For a first listen I usually suggest the song "Play" live, posted by RyaN. I'll just subscribe now in anticipation of you checking them out. Thank you Marlene. I hope you give them a chance.
Glad you are well. Pulmonary problems suck. I spent 6 days in with blood clots in both lungs. But it was better than dying. As for the lyrics, we live in a very dark world.
Yeah, I should have bought their past two albums. Always low on money and trying to buy albums legitimately that I downloaded illegally. I'm trying, dammit!
no one here has mentioned it yet so im gonna do it! teacher teacher is just a metaphor. it's not actually about teachers or a school. the song is more about calling out those who preach things they have no knowledge on or people who force their thoughts/opinions on others, i may not have 100% correctly described it though. but i think i got the point right :) always loving your jinjer reactions by the way!
I think a lot of people take Tatiana's lyrics a little too literally. I get the feeling the song "Retrospection" was written because too many people thought the lyrics to "Dreadful Moments" were autobiographical (she didn't write the lyrics for that one anyway, that was Eugene).
Marlene, have you heard The Warning? Three sisters from Mexico, playing 2 nights at the Whisky in LA on 1/15/20 and 1/16/20 and then 22 cities in the US and Canada. This is from their 2nd album - Dust to Dust, with the drummer (16 years old) singing while drumming! ruclips.net/video/TeIbG8nkOiU/видео.html
Please react to Straight Line Stitch. Either Human Bondage, Conversion, or One Reason. They are a very slept on band with similiar elements to Jinjer. Their lead vocalist Alexis Brown is both a monster and an Angel much like Tatiana.
Doubt it was catholic, but rather eastern orthodox christian school. She refers to the teachers idols and icons, which are very prominent in eastern orthodoxy.
Primus- My name us mud. Behemoth- bartzabel. Enjoy! Ooh and Rotting Christ- in yumen/xibalba (much, much nicer than the band name would indicate, 30 years has treated them well)
Tatiana couldn't go to a catholic school cause she grew up in a Orthodox Christian region. Also she has a diploma of a school teacher (don't know the speciality though).
Yes that's true, but they're similar and (as far as I'm aware) the *main* difference is that the Orthodox Church did not recognise Papal authority, resulting in the 'Great' or 'East-West' Schism of 1054.
@@gh8447 This difference lead to many consequences :) One related is that there were no disciplinary penalties in parochial schools which was transferred to the civil schools (but in private ones students could get their asses whipped).
I am glad that you are feeling better now please can you check out pit of consciousness by jinjer or cloud factory or retrospection by jinjer please 😁😁🤘🤘
@@mazharmadridi1812 Retrospection is one of their most beautiful and powerful songs for sure. But no video yet. I hope they do Retrospection and Home Back too.
If you want to do a reaction to a Jinjer video that no one else is doing that is awesome. Do this one. It's called No Hoard Of Value. It's very early in their career but amazing. Here's the link ruclips.net/video/zYrFL48cxio/видео.html
I doubt that she went to a Catholic school, she is from Ukraine where the vast majority are Orthodox. But then in that part of the world most schools are like that and anyway the message of the song is much more general.
Yeah, they said this shit hit in February. I call bullshit, something was going around as early as October 2019 that had all the earmarks of Covid-19. Several people I know were hospitalized with extreme respiratory issues, one ended up in a coma. Myself and a few others ended up getting off lighter, mine felt like a lesser version of the viral pneumonia I'd had years back, also with that loss of taste and smell. Thing is, we weren't in any near proximity to each other either. I live in the LA area, my brother in law about 100 miles from us, and the others live in Las Vegas. It didn't come from bats. But we'll never know for sure because none of the hospitals followed up on it just labeling each instance as 'unknown respiratory infection'.
@@ralfmeyer9086 First off her name is Tatiana, not jinger. Jinjer is the name of the band, which tells me you don't even know their music. Let's see Floor even come remotely close too Tati's lows, ain't gonna happen. Not to mention symphonic viking opera music sucks, it takes 6 of them on instruments that jinjer does with 3. Not to mention that Tati never had any singing lessons in her life and learned it on her own.
Two very different type of singers. Both great in their own way. But I am no fan of symphonic metal. You can keep your Floor. I will take Tatiana any day of the week. That is a rock star!!
I dont get why everyone likes this . you understand that it is not her voice right? I have been doing vocals in metal and punk bands for 20 years and could tell right away that she is not really doing that.
Marlene: that was a really good way to end it...Jinjer: yeah, but this is better 🤘
hahah exactly!
The key words of this song are "the prejudice let us down".
People get hung up early on with the catholic school image, establishing their prejudice.
But later she sings "it was all an illusion".
Even the end flips back to what the key words of the song are about, people think it's ending and then get smacked with a brutal breakdown. Their prejudice let them down.
The song overall is about anyone with status using said status to teach and preach, often about things they have no authority in through expertise, but take authority in through status (and often being brutal at beating down any dissent.)
I know I'm late but this is EXACTLY what it's about idk if you watch gibby gang but he's one of the few reactors that actually knew what the song meant and explained it.
I really enjoyed your reaction. You picked up on some stuff that reactors don't usually catch or mention, like the section with the rapid triplets. Also, your hair is fire.
It's nice to hear someone mention the instruments too.
3 notes don't always equal triplets. Believe that was just groups of 3 16th notes.
Glad you're feeling better Jinjer always makes me feel better 😁👍👍
As far as I know Eugene (the Bassist) never played any instrument before the bass. He said he picked it up bc it was the easiest and he just wanted to have more in common with his friends that he was hanging out with alot at the time
Thats awesome
@@MarleneMendozaMusic Try this on, more like a musik teacher settangs, and normally the first Jinjer video you show a friend. Do to the major surprise when she go metal. ruclips.net/video/SQNtGoM3FVU/видео.html
"Don't let the school make a fool of you, because the teachers may be fools too."
it happen sometimes to be honest does not mean all teachers are crap but sometimes it happen!
Props for recognizing that awesome bass player.
If you think these screams are brutal, jou should do "Home back". I listened to cannibal corpse when I was younger and her voice tops even that. She goes extremely low in that song.
You should check out konvent...
Home is not a building, home is liberty 🤘
Pig sounds? Jaja
@@isaacperez2071 no, growls. not squeels
She would be referencing Orthordox catholic school though she has said that the song isn't about a particular institution. ;)
I really like the energy you give off. So geniune feeling and clearly knowledgeble
Thank you 😊
Yeah I agree. She genuinely gets into it. I mean it's jinjer, who can't get into it
Glad you're feeling better. Thanks for another Jinjer video
Great reaction. Glad you are feeling better. There is an old song of theirs where she switches in midline even more called Destroy. It was written for the original singer then brutally owned when he left and Tati took over. Pit Of Consciousness is a great song with an amazing music video - best yet from their new album. The school would have been Eastern Orthodox, and probably a lot rougher in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union. :(
I believe "school" was used in the lyrics just as an example how an authority of any kind can subdue a person. And I seriously doubt that Tanya finished a school with some religious degree. I'm from a former soviet republic and first eastern orthodox school appeared here in 2007. I can even give you a link. There are not many of them till these days coz there are not many people who want to give their kids to religious schools either. Not to mention the time interval between the collapse of the Soviet Union (state ideology was based on atheism) and Tanya went to school (approximately 93 - 94) is just a 2 - years, not to much for such instances to appear.
As a rock musician yourself, could you please react to the best "hard rock" band I've heard in 30yrs? The band is "Band-Maid". Five extremely talented young women from Japan. For a first listen I usually suggest the song "Play" live, posted by RyaN. I'll just subscribe now in anticipation of you checking them out. Thank you Marlene. I hope you give them a chance.
I would add them to my list! :)
Glad you are well. Pulmonary problems suck. I spent 6 days in with blood clots in both lungs. But it was better than dying.
As for the lyrics, we live in a very dark world.
Tatjana is goddess of metal )
You'll always get a thumbs-up for doing Jinjer. Stay healthy.
thanx for your reaction and nice you feeling better!
Youre welcome!
U have some good energy thanks
Glad you're getting well. So happy you chose this!!!
Yeah, I should have bought their past two albums. Always low on money and trying to buy albums legitimately that I downloaded illegally. I'm trying, dammit!
Thanks. Jinjer is great stuff.
Jinjer is badass, straight up
Clockworks by Meshuggah would be a great study in time signatures, especially if it's the drum cam video
you're my hero
no one here has mentioned it yet so im gonna do it! teacher teacher is just a metaphor. it's not actually about teachers or a school. the song is more about calling out those who preach things they have no knowledge on or people who force their thoughts/opinions on others, i may not have 100% correctly described it though. but i think i got the point right :) always loving your jinjer reactions by the way!
the name is alva yeah! You got it!
Fun fact: Tatiana graduated as a teacher.
I think a lot of people take Tatiana's lyrics a little too literally. I get the feeling the song "Retrospection" was written because too many people thought the lyrics to "Dreadful Moments" were autobiographical (she didn't write the lyrics for that one anyway, that was Eugene).
Marlene Mendoza yay! i was worried id get something wrong 😁
Marlene, have you heard The Warning? Three sisters from Mexico, playing 2 nights at the Whisky in LA on 1/15/20 and 1/16/20 and then 22 cities in the US and Canada. This is from their 2nd album - Dust to Dust, with the drummer (16 years old) singing while drumming! ruclips.net/video/TeIbG8nkOiU/видео.html
Please react to Straight Line Stitch. Either Human Bondage, Conversion, or One Reason. They are a very slept on band with similiar elements to Jinjer. Their lead vocalist Alexis Brown is both a monster and an Angel much like Tatiana.
I have a feeling you’d like Spiritbox too. Check out Rule of Nines by them if you’re so inclined.
More Nightwish and Jinjer! Love both bands and always come to check out reactions to them!
Make sure to subscribe if u havent already so u dont miss out when i do more reactions of nightwish and jinjer!
Glad you back Marlene!! ❤
I'm glad, you're better, be well!
6:15 best part of the reaction ^^
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nice reaction and cool song choice :D
Anyone else now wondering what that respotory problem was... 😮
Want to have some real fun?
They made a separate video of this video, with sole focus on the bass.
Really awesome!
Teacher teacher bass
"It was a good way to end it" BÄM! 😂
got a mini heart attack 😂
It was good...but THIS IS BETTER! 😆🤘😎
Doubt it was catholic, but rather eastern orthodox christian school. She refers to the teachers idols and icons, which are very prominent in eastern orthodoxy.
It's not about religion.
@@-scrim did I say it was?
@@dakrisis Yes.
I've watched your videos you're brutal !!
Primus- My name us mud. Behemoth- bartzabel. Enjoy!
Ooh and Rotting Christ- in yumen/xibalba (much, much nicer than the band name would indicate, 30 years has treated them well)
Seen this done live in December 🤘🤘
Super awesome
This song is about every one who's trying to tell how to live but not following they own shit
Glad you're feeling better!!
Dang your mic is three times hotter than the vid.
I still don't understand how she get that bass guttural voice that's really impressive
If I remember correctly Tatiana was a teacher at one point. I gotta wiki it
she never was. she just have a diploma.
The Warning- Dust to Dust, Queen of the Murder Scene, Black Holes, Crimson Queen, Narcissista PLEASE
Glad you're better.
Tatiana couldn't go to a catholic school cause she grew up in a Orthodox Christian region. Also she has a diploma of a school teacher (don't know the speciality though).
Someone mentioned somewhere it is literature. That would explain Tatis top notch lyrics.
Yes that's true, but they're similar and (as far as I'm aware) the *main* difference is that the Orthodox Church did not recognise Papal authority, resulting in the 'Great' or 'East-West' Schism of 1054.
@@gh8447 This difference lead to many consequences :) One related is that there were no disciplinary penalties in parochial schools which was transferred to the civil schools (but in private ones students could get their asses whipped).
You have listen alissa white-gluz , vocalist of arch enemy. Song Nemesis live at wacken 2016. 😜 Or "reason ti belive" ... Best Song
Not Catholic in Ukraine, it's Eastern Orthodox.
Gotcha!
Jinjer is a band from the city and province of Donbas that is inhabited by majority Russian people, so they are Russian band
Jinjer is an atheist band 🤘
Music teacher !!!
Monuments - Mirror Image. I'm sure you will dig it. Think awesome, groovy metal with Michael Jackson behind the mic.
Thanks for the recommendation!
What's the time signature? Yes.
Yes
Story of my life Catholic School is brainwashing. Go team jinjer .😌👁️👁️
Tati is the most fire shit in the music world.
“That was a great way to end it”…..
ENTER THE WALL OF DEATH
Also, you should react to On Crooked Stone by Atlas 🤘
Music Teacher Teacher
I am glad that you are feeling better now please can you check out pit of consciousness by jinjer or cloud factory or retrospection by jinjer please 😁😁🤘🤘
Mazhar Madridi thank you! Ill add that to my list! :) 🤘🏼
@@MarleneMendozaMusic your welcome 😁😁
My favorite video from their new album. :)
@@j.f.fisher5318 cool brother but my most favorite song on macro is retrospection its just awesome 😁😁
@@mazharmadridi1812 Retrospection is one of their most beautiful and powerful songs for sure. But no video yet. I hope they do Retrospection and Home Back too.
If you want to do a reaction to a Jinjer video that no one else is doing that is awesome. Do this one. It's called No Hoard Of Value. It's very early in their career but amazing. Here's the link
ruclips.net/video/zYrFL48cxio/видео.html
Thanks, I will add that to my list :)
С тех пор как я услышал Pisces - не могу остановиться просматривать реакции на песни Jinjer... Я сука сектант ))))
Как это вылечить?! Терпеть не могу реакции, но не могу не кликнуть увидев реакцию на JINJER.
@@rho_man Само пройдет (нет). 😁
Я люблю реакции на JINJER
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I doubt that she went to a Catholic school, she is from Ukraine where the vast majority are Orthodox. But then in that part of the world most schools are like that and anyway the message of the song is much more general.
I doubt bassist was guitarist before - he plays like a bass purist!
Ukraine are mostly Orthodox, not Catholic
Reacts to IN MUTE - DANCE OF DESTRUCTION
Ill add to my list :)
Song is actually about armchair critics on social media
I heard Tat talk about it in an interview
the beggining of the video #covid-19 thats what u had gurl
Agreed
Yeah, they said this shit hit in February. I call bullshit, something was going around as early as October 2019 that had all the earmarks of Covid-19. Several people I know were hospitalized with extreme respiratory issues, one ended up in a coma. Myself and a few others ended up getting off lighter, mine felt like a lesser version of the viral pneumonia I'd had years back, also with that loss of taste and smell. Thing is, we weren't in any near proximity to each other either. I live in the LA area, my brother in law about 100 miles from us, and the others live in Las Vegas. It didn't come from bats. But we'll never know for sure because none of the hospitals followed up on it just labeling each instance as 'unknown respiratory infection'.
Sounds like you had that Rona
please react to lamb of god memento mori or resurrection man. stay metal🤘
Catholics gave me my 1st murder story ever. Now I write Novels.
The song isn't about religion.
🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 UKRAINE SUPER
I love Jinjer. Also you got COVID-19 before it was cool.
Yeah I didnt have COVID-19 at the time it was a different respiratory virus. Either or its not a cool thing to have :/
Not many Catholic schools in Ukraine lol.
Lettss not make the nuns beat us with rulers
She can sing she can sing there is no break just think how rediculas it would be the singer she put thousands of hours in to this an nope
UKRAINE 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Jinger the princess,but floor jansen the Queen...
you have no clue what your talking about...
@@ralfmeyer9086 First off her name is Tatiana, not jinger. Jinjer is the name of the band, which tells me you don't even know their music. Let's see Floor even come remotely close too Tati's lows, ain't gonna happen. Not to mention symphonic viking opera music sucks, it takes 6 of them on instruments that jinjer does with 3. Not to mention that Tati never had any singing lessons in her life and learned it on her own.
@@lordbobrules ok..
Two very different type of singers. Both great in their own way. But I am no fan of symphonic metal. You can keep your Floor. I will take Tatiana any day of the week. That is a rock star!!
@@robertfitterman3777 yes you are right, she is a normal Rockstar, not a Valkiriey
That surprised me I assumed you were Asian
This is either the best or the worst reaction video ever.
And no she never went to Catholic school she's from Ukraine and there's no Catholic schools in there
No need for a break run a little walk she is not ur average singer
You talked over the entire song and missed most of it, next time try pausing the video when you have a thought
Get a better sound
Tatiana has more diversity in her voice than your entire culture.
I dont get why everyone likes this . you understand that it is not her voice right? I have been doing vocals in metal and punk bands for 20 years and could tell right away that she is not really doing that.
Sounds like you need more practice.