Inside the Alaska Airlines’ Emergency Landing: A Timeline | WSJ
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- A section of an Alaska Airlines flight ripped away shortly after takeoff on Friday, forcing the plane to make an emergency landing.
WSJ takes a look at a timeline of what unfolded after the aircraft’s midair incident and the investigation that followed.
Chapters:
0:00 Emergency landing in Portland
0:37 Timeline of events
3:33 What’s next?
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Since I fly pretty regularly, the more I fly, the more comfortable and at ease I feel flying on Airbus. Boeing needs to fire their executives and replace them with engineers instead of getting business advice from accounting consulting firms.
you have any favs? I've only been on a330 & a350. Heard a380 is like the bee's knees, would love to be in one of those someday
@@AusOpeningI love flying on the A321. It’s my favorite. I fly of them more than any other airplane.
It’s too premature to assume it’s a manufacturing issue, could be maintenance
@@cherifaidara4244 What maintenance, the plane is 2 months old
Agreed, I see a pattern of big engineering companies hiring CEO’s w non-engineering backgrounds having issues.
Quote: "After checking a CERTAIN number of airplanes, one quarter were deemed safe and returned to service." This sounded so casual and normal but if you think again, only 1/4 were safe! This is scary!!!
No mention that the 737-Max was already grounded for almost 2 years, during the pandemic, after a fatal flaw after “going cheap” to avoid crew recertification to try to compete against Airbus, that killed all passengers and crew of 2 different flights. This flaw, is not related to this issue, but tells you that more design oversight may have happened.
Those accidents occurred on 737 max 8 planes, this incident occurred on a 737 max 9 aircraft.
@rd9102 it's still the max line is it not?
@@MRLONG758 That's like saying I had a C6 vette kill 2 people because of a software update in the background. Now i have a C7 that lost a bolt at 150 mph but no one was hurt. All Vettes must be bad because they are both Vettes...think about it.
@@rd9102Yeah people are very reactionary in these comments. 100%
@@rd9102 Max 9 is basically the same airplane recertified after the changes to the sensors redundancy
I think it was just pure luck that the door didn't take out the horizontal stabilizer on its way down. If it did, this may have cause an uncontrollable dive and crash. It would have marked the third disastrous crash for the 737-Max.
Exactly what I was thinking. Several near disasters recently.
"We got lucky" only holds true so many times
Or the flux capacitor
I don't think the door had enough mass to take out the horizontal stabilizer even with a direct hit.
@@CharlieBarbarossa likely it would damage and weaken it a lot though
A $1500 inconvenience check. Tell that to the bus full of lawyers that were waiting for them when they landed.
What would you sue for? And does accepting the extra $1500 impact the ability to sue since that could be seen as the settlement?
@@Mr_MikeMikeMike Psychological trauma is a massive & relevant thing in this case, the safety board said it themselves. More power to them, even if they were laughing throughout the event I hope they get a payout. $1500 for most people is nothing, especially when you take into account fact they had several warnings re pressuration issues on this plane beforehand & god knows what else lawyers would discover as time goes by
I feel quite sorry for Americans watching such a prestigious company, Boeing, completely fall from grace and its market position. I’m not sure if Airbus has overtaken Boeing in terms of market share, but I would really not be surprised if they have. Boeing has developed a really bad reputation. Even here in Australia, the vast majority of Qantas orders of late have gone to Airbus and your average Joe is completely aware of the issues at Boeing putting money ahead of safety.
Airbus has been leading in sales for most of the last few years, but not because of safety issues. They simply have offered a superior product line to the airlines
@@creativemindplaysurely Boeing going away means consequences for Airbus as well. Mainly now there’s no competition, unless the Chinese rapidly develops their jets.
Airbus has always been better than Boeing 😂😂😂😂
I feel sorry for the hundreds that have died on Airbus crashes. Esp. the ones due to fake stall warnings, pitot tube problems.
Kenya Airways Flight 431 Air France Flight 447 for starters.
You know people die on Airbus crashes too right? Although rare for both airlines for this stuff to happen. Remember Air France 447 and fake stall warnings? Seriously this stuff is rare and happens everywhere. Feel bad for us Americans? It happens to you all as well! It’s not like planes fall out of the sky every single day. Boeing is fine here, things happen all the time in life, and it’s not like it’s just Boeing 😂 Seriously I can tell you more about the Airbus accidents but all you have to do is google “Airbus accidents” Feel sorry for us Americans? Wow….
Just when you think Boeing can't embarass themselves even more
There is a difference between incidents and accident. Learn it
@@ClaraFlater_than_surface_board Yeah this could've been an accident Keep that in mind.
Technically nothing to do with them is everything do with Alaska Airlines
Learn to spell.
Funny thing is the day before the headlines were yet again full of 'Boeing seeks further exemptions for it's Max variants'. It has regulators & politicians in their backpockets even after the Max crashes time & time again they've still forced Washington DC to bend to their will by threatening them
Pretty remarkable that this video never once mentions Boeing - the creators of the 737-Max. They seem to cast blame on the airline (understandably) but how the makers of this disaster escape any notice on 4 minute video is beyond me.
Imagine you forgot to tighten your wheel bolts on your Honda and the wheel falls off on a highway. Should everyone be talking about how Honda screwed up?
Should mention Spirit AeroSystems then.. That make these parts for Boeing. I heard these fuselage's are delivered mostly assembled to Boeing. In any case, should wait until the outcome of the investigation because it could be any of these three companies to blame.
Fair point but if Honda had a history of wheels falling off its cars, or its cars having major catastrophic failures in the not too distance past, I think it's worth mentioning@@Vetal777
@@enfo Beoing gets these parts & then takes them out to fit their own stuff, they're responsible for putting it back on & ensuring the final quality control on top of the old quality control when the parts arrive in the first place. Buck starts & stops with Boeing. If you go off parts suppliers, then Boeing would never be held liable for anything as most parts come from suppliers & there's thousands of suppliers
@@Vetal777 This is a 3 month old plane - a more apt comparison is the doors of your brand new car come off while on the highway. If that was the case, I would absolutely be asking whether Honda has manufacturing issues.
I swear Boeing will never return to its glory days when they actually made good airplanes.
They don’t have to, especially since they have military contracts. They could stop commercial jets and be totally fine. Of course that leaves Airbus as a monopoly which may not be that good.
747 made in 1969 i believe shows how good designs could be now if everyone didnt put money ahead of engineering advancements, which is hard to do but must happen.
I think it’s time to retire all 737 max’s. I definitely will never fly on one
Same here... I only book flights on Airbus and Embraer planes these days if I can... I don't trust Boeing one bit!
I wouldn't board any "Max" plane, ever. Over the years they've had way too many unacceptable mechanical failures resulting in catastrophic loss of life.
@@japanwatchconnection You remind me of the those 'this is the most tested plane in history' guys who have all gone quiet this week lol
I flew United recently, and was alarmed to find out that my flight was on a Max - I was really nervous, but there was no option at that point, so I just did enough research on the changes they made to calm myself, and went on it. Didn't feel good. I think I'll stay away from United and Alaska Air..
Of course the root cause is not any of these companies, but the non-stop scramble to the bottom for profit that they are forced to compete in or die.
@@anonymousweeble2224Southwest uses Max as well. You just gonna avoid them as well.
You must realize the chances of you act dying in a crash is minimal. The fact that this is big news actually shows how safe air travel is. Every single incident makes big news.
@@d.b.cooper1 Yeah, cause the max has no inherent issues, it depends whether the airlines maintaining them can look after them without the manufacturer constantly holding their hand
Ah remember the old saying (adjusted for modern times): “If it’s Boeing i ain't going”
The chances of you dying is still low. Their wide body jets are still fine as those are all new jets.
"Still" fine @@Bobspineable
@@Bobspineablethis aircraft was new too
Boeing why am I not surprised
Boeing has an excellent safety/quality record. Educate yourself.
Yeah Airbus has never had accidents and incidents pfff.
@@sequoiasemperviren3163 Boeing HAD an excellent safety record until The 737-MAXs (which this one is). Then there was the company culture to lie, conspire defraud the government and be reckless to the abandonment of safety, thereby causing deaths, ALL FOR PROFIT. Educate yourself.
@sequoiasemperviren3163 yeah right, keep washing their image and see where that takes you
@@Luc3ntiX I am done with your disrespectful bile. Thank God I can click "Mute Lucentis" and I will never, ever have to see a "thought" from you ever again.
All I can say is thank goodness no one was killed or seriously injured. I had a family emergency a few years back when these planes were just rolling out. I didn't have time to pick and choose my prefered airline or plane. I needed to get to my destination on the first thing smoking out of DC. I remember how proud and excited the Captain was when he announced what kind of plane we were in, and thought that's neat, just get me on the ground safely. A year after being on a 737 Max, two if them had crashed killing all onboard. If I wasn't already a nervous flyer ( I loved flying before 9/11) this in no way boosts my confidence on how safe air travel is.At least when it comes to a Boeing plane. And you mean to tell me that there is n't a cockpit voice recording in a flight that only lasted 20 minutes from tke off to emergency landing ?
It’s Boeing 737 Max again 😢
Somehow a journalist saying "I spoke to a twelve-year old" in such a serious topic sounds funny, I don't know why😂
One quarter deemed safe? What are they finding on the 75% of inspected planes deemed unsafe?
Loose plug maybe
One quarter were inspected and deemed safe. You don't inspect scores of planes overnight.
@@creativemindplay what value does that even have? So either they didn't this this plane was safe before its flight, or they deemed it safe just like the other ones
@@mediocreman2 The anchor screws were loose on several assemblies.
yet, at 35000 feet people would have their seatbelts off and differential air pressure would blow them out of the gaping hole. Alaska had three previous pressurization warnings on this plane so they kept if off their Hawaii route so that it could immediately return to an airport. Alaska Airlines rolled the dice on this one and lost.
@@japanwatchconnectionmany news outlets had reported that, this specific plane is prohibited to fly over water for the reason OP mentioned.
Yup and its a big lawsuit coming at them
The type of airplane going where is decided months, years in advance. They didn’t just swap out planes. I don’t believe you
There is no way this should have happened
It's USA, third world country 😂
@@TvGunslingeRvT USA the richest country in the world.
Apparently the folks who were scheduled to be seated right next to the emergency door missed the flight. If the had their seatbelts off they could have very well been sucked out of the cabin.
Would they have survived if they flew out of the cabin?
@shashank1630 for sure. They would've just used their wings or parachute to reach the ground safely.
@@shashank1630 dude seriously...
@@shashank1630read your question to your self but slowly.
Even with the seat belt on, anyone next to the gap might still get sucked out. Passengers only have a lap belt unlike the proper harness the pilots wear
DOOR PLUG This option is only available on the -9 and limits the maximum capacity to 189. The door structure is modified so the sidewall does not infringe into the interior and a row of standard seats can be installed. A full-sized window is also installed. Boeing warns that future activation of the mid-cabin emergency exit doors will involve significant cost and therefor to consider retaining the baseline configuration with deactivated mid-cabin exit doors if future activation of the mid-cabin exit doors is required.
Glad everyone is okay
Boeing should be sued big time!
This is why i always keep my seatbelt on when flying.
How is boeing still in business? especially after the deaths in 2019 in the 2 crashes.
This should never happened to any modern plane, completely unacceptable.
The aircraft which is shown in the introduction is actually an Embraer, not a Boeing 737 Max.
Jerry
If it's a Boeing, i ain't going
Thank goodness no one died.
cutting corners to cut down on the price might be the issue.
How much does a Boeing 737 cost today?
In 2019, Moody's had estimated Boeing's operating margin to be US$12-15 million for each 737 MAX 8 at its list price of $121.6 million (~$138 million in 2022), although the list price is usually discounted 50-55% in practice.
I remember a documentary done by Aljeezeera news years ago stating the low saftey standards in Boeing after that only all these incidents started to happen...
Just miraculously lucky no one was sitting in that row !
Well, boeing put profits above safety, now you see the consequences.
This isn’t Boeing’s first rodeo. I hope they learned their lesson again.
Keep reaching hard, Boeing hater. Without waiting until the outcome of the investigation because it could be any of these three companies to blame.
@@josephman1488 wow, a boeing lover, that's a rare breed.
@@kylemaolinson9417 Nope, there are thousands out there. Learn something from school.
@@josephman1488 wow, a man who went to school. Very cultured.
Maddening
This is a great ad for Airbus! 😅
Never wanting to fly a Boeing 737 MAX ever again after this... I'll stick to the A220 thank you, even with its own minor teething problems...
That’s so scary just a a couple days before that I was on a Alaska flight
The pilot is the real Rvmp for keeping clam under intense pressure
They had pressurisation lights came on on three previous occasions and they did nothing!!
Nice
I am flying to Florida next month on max 9 . And from Pdx non stop flight
And I’m going to Flight Attendant training next month !!
It's good this air plain did not lose it's wing or tail or engine. Just some wall.
wing is hard to takeoff with a lil door thats behind the wing with nothing to propel it forward, if it takes an engine which is same logic as wing wouldn’t be bad but would make landing harder, tail is very possible and they would have been screwed.
how can they even let Max9 off the runway at this point?!
Just because its Boeing....the FAA should be ashamed
This is the Captain speaking as you may have noticed we have a hole in the plane, don't worry this completely normal and your in safe hands as I flew A10s missing a wing an engine a further distance than the where will land- is what I would say
so youre saying the pilot is the same guy who landed a jet with a missing wing
Good morning
Had to be scary. Imagine sitting next to the door that came off.
".....Planes are built to handle depressurization.....". That is: If the manufacturer hasn't cut corners in that area, too.
the door had rounded edges so i guess they did
@@avreve Lord have mercy, Boeing.
Crony Capitalism and unfettered greed is what got us here.
You’re absolutely correct.
There is no such thing as crony capitalism, it's just capitalism
I'm taking the car from now on. I'm good. I love road trips 😁
tahniah kepada krew kabin telah berjaya mendaratkan pesawat dengan selamat, dan penumpang yang patuh dengan sentiasa memakai tali pinggang keselamatan walaupun berada tanda pasangkan tali pinggang sudah dipadamkan
If i was anywhere near that door, i would sue Alaskan airlines, and refuse their measley hush money
Man is it still safe to fly on Alaska!?
Note to self: never fly a new Boeing plane.
That phone was found too
Randpm but why was almost every passenger I've seen thus far on the flight asian?
....and i have to fly Alaska Airlines next week 😬
I am very sad for the Boeing organisation. Such an esteemed company with great employees ruined by inept management. Our American friends need to fix Boeing ASAP otherwise they will lose this industrial gem and this would not be good for anyone. Even for Airbus here is Europe a collapse of Boeing would be negative
Lesson: If an engineering company selling highly technical products starts being run by accountants and MBAs with no engineering background, SELL the stock 💀💀
Well wait a little bit because their profits are going to skyrocket until the technical debt comes due. Then sell the stock. Just look at dyson another once amazing American company now a hated cheap plastic vendor.
Expect airlines to start charging premium for isle seats
So Fight Club eventually ended up being correct.
Fola, they will show you shege . be careful , Abeg.
Wow this particular aircraft has been grounded. Amazing. What a bold decision. And totally unexpected 😂
But the depressurization alarm got off three times before just the week before and was also checked and reset three times and the plane was forbidden by Alaska Airlines to fly oversees to Hawaii if the depressurization alarm would go off again....Hey Alaska Airlines, this plane if from October 2023, should it not have been flown to Boeing for a problem check... Well, if they would have, Boeing would never in their wildest dreams thought that the plugged door would be ripped of the plane.
Why do they "plug" the door, so they can fit more passengers? Would of thought having another usable door/exit would be beneficial in emergencies.
There was an emergency, the door opened. Where is the problem?
This is incident are "extremely rare".
Perhaps to most aircraft. But it certainly not rare to a Boeing 737 Max, who's very familiar with disaster result.
Early investigation
When plane feels like 🚆🚆
Boeing: lets outsource the part of our compagny responsible for the fuselage.... Passengers: can we start screaming now??
Whats even crazier to me is how Boeing has managed to twist the narrative when issues have popped off in in other countries. This was an American carrier on American soil. Completely unacceptable. Im starting to second guess my trips on a Boeing.
I hate when you lose your phone like that.
Boeing. Safety is our first priority 👌🏻
So that iPhone has been found is the next story to be covered.
Resulting to multiple calls for irrops
What is a lifetime of trauma worth? Everyone on that flight will suffer trauma every time the need to fly for business, Xmas, ect. For those whose business relies on flying they may end up loosing a high paying job because they simply cannot step onto anouther airplane without immense suffering and panic attacks.
Nobody advertises Airbus better than Boeing.
So nobody got sucked out on the row of that door? Amazing. They must have still had their seatbelts on from take off.
Incident happened at fairly low altitude of 16.000 ft. This is the saving grace.
The two seats closest to the spot were incidentally not occupied...
Good thing everyone had thier seat belts on
The McDonnell Douglas company and their door is haunting them even after their merger with Boeing 😂
Boeing needs to be shut down entirely.
Corporations are quick to react when things go bad in America, immediately grounding all planes but when Boeing crashed in 2 developing countries, you gaslight them that it was human error. SHAME ON YOU.
I would file a class action lawsuit
Alaska: which class do you prefer economy, business or convertible? 😁
Door could have hit back wing..
Anyone here came from the the News short about the iPhone that was found after this happened: 👋
Why isnt anyone talking about the passenger sitting next to the door that exploded? So she is OK, Great! BUT did she stay in her seat? Did she have to stay in her seat? What would you do.... just keeping sitting there, "like yeah this is fine". Dangle your feet out the side a little & have a really good time/enjoy the view. Whats the protocol/social norm in this situation?
Your next vacation will blow the doors off (too soon?)
Nailed it
I flew to Seattle in Dec 2023 with Alaska Airlines. The people who allow this airplane to fly must go to prison for putting a lot of people’s life in danger! I won’t fly Alaska anymore!
if it happened at 35000 feet scenario would have been completely different
Rip to that kids phone
One can only wonder what Boeing knows about the manufacturing of this plane that it's not saying, even worse, what they don't even know.
Psychological injury? Maybe 19505 you would say you got a fright
Hmm 737 max?
Well I guess we'll see a new law that mandates all commercial flights use one privatized for-profit safety inspection company. How do you drive up the barrier to entry, reduce your competition, and increase the cost of your service?
pretty sure it was going to Canada right?
No Ontario, California
Did they go back and get the boy’s phone? 😂
The Boeing plane was torn into pieces in mid-air. On the other hand, the Airbus hit a plane a third of its size in Japan, but it was still able to land safely with all its passengers with just minor injuries.
And it took forever for the whole plane to even burn, far exceeding the expectations people had for the composite materials used, interesting experiment as this was the first A350 hull loss ever & it did better than expected
@japanwatchconnection Make sure to choose a Boeing 737 MAX the next time you fly 🙂
@@d.b.cooper1 Airbus is a die hard irl
"The Boeing plane was torn into pieces in mid-air." Where are the thousands of pieces of boeing airbus fanboy?
Maybe they shouldn't use door plugs.
If it’s Boeing I ain’t going 😂
What happened to the passenger who was sitting next to that door?
Fortunately no passenger was sitting next to the door plug.
@@comedebreuille5396 Incidentally may be the word in this case
No one has asked where the door ended up!
It was found
Misleading video title