I went out and purchased a 6D xenon torch. I use it more than my ML300 now because I find the lights easier on my eyes which makes it great for general use around the home / garden / my workshop. I use my ML300 led for when I'm camping and it real remote areas where the extra light is really needed.
I'm glad people still use and appreciate Incandescents in 2021. When I got into Flashlights last year, my first was a 3D Incan Maglite and it actually surprised me. On Fresh batteries (4.5-4.8V), it has some punch to it which is amazing for a 45 Lumen bulb. I've converted it to LED and 2x 18650s but I still like to throw in the original Krypton bulb and overdrive it with 4x Eneloops producing a beautiful Tight White Beam that can touch the trees 100m away. Also, those 4.8V Krypton bulbs you normally use for 6 Volt Lanterns can handle 2x Li-ion cells (8.4V) but the ones I got produce Hurricane Beam which is a bummer.
The only downside to over-driving an incandescent is that you dramatically reduce their lifespan. Most 2D bulbs (which will see around 3.6v on a fresh set of alkaline cells) will be rated for only 2.4v so that they're slightly over-run already. Even then, they're typically rated for around 50 hours. I still prefer the traditional glow of an incandescent though. I've got 2 of the 2D maglites and a maglite mini 2AA all incandescent. I also have the ML300LX, but I still find myself using the incandescent ones more.
I keep meaning to build a rechargeable battery pack with integrated charger and output voltage regulator to convert one of my incandescent 2D maglites to be rechargeable. A chunky LiIon cell should hold a lot more power than a couple of alkaline D cells, and having a regulated voltage output means that I wouldn't suffer brightness fade while using it. It would be cool if I could contain the battery, charger, and regulator in a single cylinder the same size as 2D cells, so that I could still swap out for retro alkaline cells without any modification.
I just like dimmer lights. No burning out my eyes every time I turn the thing on, and even when I used LEDs I only needed about 85 lumens to highlight a tree at 400 feet away lumens don't really scale linearly from what I can tell
I always found the problem with magcharger was the spot focusing ! I can remember having a 3D mag with those white star bulbs you could upgrade to long before leds . The good thing with incandescent is the colour rendition is better and if you use a torch a lot it's better on the eyes! And I like the fact they get warm in use. Maglite still pedal out new incandescent torches and to their cost were late in the game with LED?
Back in the day, I managed to use a 36 V 10 A projector lamp to build a flashlight with a backpack. The handheld projector was connected to a backpack made of three 12 Volt, 7 Ah gel batteries. The gizmo was able to run 30 minutes, and the light it made, was matter of legends...
Vinny V y Ken Engle, los felicito a ambos por su amor y respeto al señor Edison y su familiar y adorable invento, la bombilla incandescente. Yo tengo 2 linternas Maglites con bulbo incandescente halógeno. Una 5D (5cell d) y la solitaire. Las de led las respeto, pero no me gustan porque tienen exceso de brillo y son malas para la salud de los ojos a largo plazo. Yo tengo un buen ojo para mirar en la oscuridad de por sí y una luz para mirar la forma de los elementos me es suficiente. Saludos compadres desde Buenos Aires, Argentina.
The led flashlights be flickering and I had some that's still laying around that quit working or the bulb has quit working and I'm going back to incandescent flashlights and I had some when I was a kid
@@Gieszkanne I had a luxpro 4 aaa led flashlight and a 3 aaa redline led flashlight that the bulb went out that cost up to 25 dollars and I'm gust going to stick with maglite that parts can be replaced or swapped over and incandescent flashlights are better for your eyes and I have more led flashlights that stop working in the attic and maglite don't have that circuit bord in them that the switch is directly connected to the bulb and I have 2 led same flashlights that when they get a little warm about 10 seconds they shut off and will not turn back on unless put them on charge and even when the battery is fully charged and I could of just bought a maglite about the half of the price
@@driftracing08 I have no problems with led flashlights. Also you can choose warm white led's which is better for your eyes. With led's you get much better run times.
@@Gieszkanne One of the things about leds is that heat degrades them overtime and the high power led flashlights get very hot on turbo and high and the runtime is very short on turbo or high settings
@@driftracing08 SO what? The turbo/high you use only for a short time. Also they regulate themself down. Even medium is brighter than any bulp flashlight. LED are better you can not deny it!
My MagLight has a set of 4 Dcells from... FOURTEEN yers ago. Duracells. Fires up at maximum every time. Obviously i use it sporadically but... Isn't it what ever ready flash light is all about?
Which gives better light in terms of natural white light between xenon and krypton? My Mags are using the krypton bulb and an led upgrade which is great but, never used one with the xenon. I always thought it was just in the states that used xenon.
Kryptons can handle Overdrive better. An overdriven Xenon will produce a more Whiter Throwier Light but it's hard to know when it could blow. So yeah, just use Xenon although the Maglite Xenon bulbs have gone up quite a bit for some stupid reason.
@@fivegiga5523 Xenon is slightly brighter than krypton. A slightly whiter light too. Halogen is better still. But realistically you don't really get halogens in such a small package - For halogen cycle to work correctly, the glass envelope of the lamp must reach around 250*c. For one, the plastic components would melt or be damaged, and there's a good chance that you wouldn't have it on long enough to warm it up to that temperature. I think the smallest halogen I ever saw was a small 6v flange type. They were sold in Halfords in the UK about 20 years ago, but never seen them since.
not sure about the NiMH recharables coz of voltage drop but there are dcell recharable lithium ions now (some have a usb port on them). i wonder if that would be a good use coz of constant voltage. not as good capacity usually in smaller form batteries coz of the stepdown and charge circuit stuffed in there with usb port
I went out and purchased a 6D xenon torch. I use it more than my ML300 now because I find the lights easier on my eyes which makes it great for general use around the home / garden / my workshop. I use my ML300 led for when I'm camping and it real remote areas where the extra light is really needed.
I'm glad people still use and appreciate Incandescents in 2021. When I got into Flashlights last year, my first was a 3D Incan Maglite and it actually surprised me. On Fresh batteries (4.5-4.8V), it has some punch to it which is amazing for a 45 Lumen bulb.
I've converted it to LED and 2x 18650s but I still like to throw in the original Krypton bulb and overdrive it with 4x Eneloops producing a beautiful Tight White Beam that can touch the trees 100m away.
Also, those 4.8V Krypton bulbs you normally use for 6 Volt Lanterns can handle 2x Li-ion cells (8.4V) but the ones I got produce Hurricane Beam which is a bummer.
The only downside to over-driving an incandescent is that you dramatically reduce their lifespan.
Most 2D bulbs (which will see around 3.6v on a fresh set of alkaline cells) will be rated for only 2.4v so that they're slightly over-run already.
Even then, they're typically rated for around 50 hours.
I still prefer the traditional glow of an incandescent though. I've got 2 of the 2D maglites and a maglite mini 2AA all incandescent. I also have the ML300LX, but I still find myself using the incandescent ones more.
I still use incandescent in my 6-D, 2-D & 2-AA cell Maglites, easier on the eyes…I don’t need blinding light ….
Found my old Maglite 5 C-Cell torch, put new batteries in it and the Krypton bulb shines just as bright as it did in 1987....
Incandescent light is much closer to natural daytime light so more friendly with eyes.
Xenon is better than krypton and halogen is better than both.
@@Zkpe02 Those older Krypton Bulbs have a nice shape to them. How do they compare to the White Stars?
And what's nice is that when the EMPs go off and all of the LED bulbs burst, your xenon and incandescent bulbs will be fine.
When?? What's up with you people and your doomsday fantasies?
Imagine in an incandescent flashlight was designed with modern batteries. It would be incredible!
I keep meaning to build a rechargeable battery pack with integrated charger and output voltage regulator to convert one of my incandescent 2D maglites to be rechargeable.
A chunky LiIon cell should hold a lot more power than a couple of alkaline D cells, and having a regulated voltage output means that I wouldn't suffer brightness fade while using it.
It would be cool if I could contain the battery, charger, and regulator in a single cylinder the same size as 2D cells, so that I could still swap out for retro alkaline cells without any modification.
Make one. Go to lumencraft and get the stuff to convert one to 26650. Two 26650 should run a 6 cell bulb/lamp.
I just like dimmer lights.
No burning out my eyes every time I turn the thing on, and even when I used LEDs I only needed about 85 lumens to highlight a tree at 400 feet away
lumens don't really scale linearly from what I can tell
I always found the problem with magcharger was the spot focusing ! I can remember having a 3D mag with those white star bulbs you could upgrade to long before leds . The good thing with incandescent is the colour rendition is better and if you use a torch a lot it's better on the eyes! And I like the fact they get warm in use. Maglite still pedal out new incandescent torches and to their cost were late in the game with LED?
awesome, thanks. How hot do they get ?
Back in the day, I managed to use a 36 V 10 A projector lamp to build a flashlight with a backpack. The handheld projector was connected to a backpack made of three 12 Volt, 7 Ah gel batteries. The gizmo was able to run 30 minutes, and the light it made, was matter of legends...
Vinny V y Ken Engle, los felicito a ambos por su amor y respeto al señor Edison y su familiar y adorable invento, la bombilla incandescente. Yo tengo 2 linternas Maglites con bulbo incandescente halógeno. Una 5D (5cell d) y la solitaire. Las de led las respeto, pero no me gustan porque tienen exceso de brillo y son malas para la salud de los ojos a largo plazo. Yo tengo un buen ojo para mirar en la oscuridad de por sí y una luz para mirar la forma de los elementos me es suficiente. Saludos compadres desde Buenos Aires, Argentina.
The led flashlights be flickering and I had some that's still laying around that quit working or the bulb has quit working and I'm going back to incandescent flashlights and I had some when I was a kid
If led flashlights are flickering, this can also be caused by a bad lithium battery.
@@Gieszkanne I had a luxpro 4 aaa led flashlight and a 3 aaa redline led flashlight that the bulb went out that cost up to 25 dollars and I'm gust going to stick with maglite that parts can be replaced or swapped over and incandescent flashlights are better for your eyes and I have more led flashlights that stop working in the attic and maglite don't have that circuit bord in them that the switch is directly connected to the bulb and I have 2 led same flashlights that when they get a little warm about 10 seconds they shut off and will not turn back on unless put them on charge and even when the battery is fully charged and I could of just bought a maglite about the half of the price
@@driftracing08 I have no problems with led flashlights. Also you can choose warm white led's which is better for your eyes. With led's you get much better run times.
@@Gieszkanne One of the things about leds is that heat degrades them overtime and the high power led flashlights get very hot on turbo and high and the runtime is very short on turbo or high settings
@@driftracing08 SO what? The turbo/high you use only for a short time. Also they regulate themself down. Even medium is brighter than any bulp flashlight. LED are better you can not deny it!
My MagLight has a set of 4 Dcells from... FOURTEEN yers ago. Duracells.
Fires up at maximum every time.
Obviously i use it sporadically but... Isn't it what ever ready flash light is all about?
Which gives better light in terms of natural white light between xenon and krypton? My Mags are using the krypton bulb and an led upgrade which is great but, never used one with the xenon. I always thought it was just in the states that used xenon.
Xenon is better than krypton and halogen is better than both.
Kryptons can handle Overdrive better. An overdriven Xenon will produce a more Whiter Throwier Light but it's hard to know when it could blow.
So yeah, just use Xenon although the Maglite Xenon bulbs have gone up quite a bit for some stupid reason.
@@fivegiga5523 Xenon is slightly brighter than krypton. A slightly whiter light too.
Halogen is better still. But realistically you don't really get halogens in such a small package - For halogen cycle to work correctly, the glass envelope of the lamp must reach around 250*c.
For one, the plastic components would melt or be damaged, and there's a good chance that you wouldn't have it on long enough to warm it up to that temperature.
I think the smallest halogen I ever saw was a small 6v flange type. They were sold in Halfords in the UK about 20 years ago, but never seen them since.
not sure about the NiMH recharables coz of voltage drop but there are dcell recharable lithium ions now (some have a usb port on them). i wonder if that would be a good use coz of constant voltage. not as good capacity usually in smaller form batteries coz of the stepdown and charge circuit stuffed in there with usb port
Does the xenon bulb retainer suits regular halogen bulb?
Depends. Some Halogen bulbs such as the Mag Charger one are G4 Bi-pin. The Magnum Start II is G3.
Only narrow bulbs, the collars hole is smaller.
You can get rechargeable D cells.
Sure you can and each cell has 1.2 volts.
Whats the battery adapter called? Cant find it
3AA to D serial battery holder (for 3.6 volts)
3AA to D parallel battery holder (for 1.2 volt)
@@fivegiga5523 found only parallel ones. Serial version is hard to come by.
@@D2G10 Just look for ""3AA to D serial battery holder 4.5""